ITT: Guns you handled IRL and didn't like >SIG 550 >Ergos

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>G36K(E?)
>Also very front heavy
>Pistol grip wasn't very good
>Sights felt weird, low FOV or something
>Safety isn't easy to operate (without training)

On the plus the magwell grip was extremely comfortable and did help balance the gun

>>31101928
Oh I should have clarified
>Front heavy as an AK with a light stock
I've handled/shot some modern AKs and VZ58s that weren't super front heavy

Also I should have clarified that I didn't shoot the 550 or G36K(E?), I just handled them at a police expo

>>31101928
>Galil
>PSL
>SKS
>m14
All complete garbage. I'm convinced the people who love them are just memeing children or hoarders blinded by having "just one more fun."

>FAL
>Ergos suck
>everything's stiff on it. Fine for a military gun, sucks for casual shooting
>recoil is too damn strong for the cartridge it fires, hard as balls to control.

>Beretta 92 APFSDS (don't even know which variant it was)
>heavy and big, beats a freakin' SIG in that department
>the way the safety decocker works makes it risky as fuck to carry unchambered
>the weight made it nice and controllable, though, which is nice

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>MK23 (With SOCOM suppressor but no LAM)
>deaglehueg
>extremely frontheavy
>points like shit
>grip is a little too wide and bore axis too high
Fucking meme gun

>>31101981
>>the way the safety decocker works makes it risky as fuck to carry unchambered
Huh? It literally move the firing pin out of the way. Can't get any safer than that.

>>31102002
the point being, if you carry unchambered and pull the slide back you risk hitting the safety/decocker accidentally. Heard more than one story of people having that happen and tap-rack-banging 2 or three times before realising the safety was on and the mushy trigger was because of that.

AK
>Short as fuck LOP
>Hard to get a cheekweld and line off on the sights with such a short LOP unless you're a manlet

L85
>Controls are fucking retarded

>>31102016
Sounds like bullshit. Anyone who shoots the 92fs knows it's easier to bump the safety off when slide racking than on. Of course people dumb enough to carry an unloaded pistol can probably find a way.

>>31102002
>Huh? It literally move the firing pin out of the way. Can't get any safer than that.
as opposed to figuratively moving it out of the way, right?

dummy

>>31102030
>european military standards often dictate carry in condition 3
>Italians carry in condition 3
>wonder why stupid things happen

To be fair, it didn't happen to me and I'm not trained with the thing. Though I've heard lots of stories.

>>31101947
I think you're wrong. I had an airsoft version of this (designed to be 100% accurate) and it felt fine and shot airsoft bullets really fast.

M9, everytime i pulled it out of my holster the safety would catch.

>>31101977
Or maybe people enjoy the aesthetics of those rifles. Not everything has to be an AR, bud.

>>31102056
Airsoft guns don't have heavy steel barrels/metal actions, they can't get the balance 100% no matter what

>>31102098
D A M A G E C O N T R O L

When I was in the Navy I 2as a br3acher on my VBSS team. They gave me a moss500 with a foregrip on the action, after one drop I never touched that thing again, call of duty is a fucking lie. Every drop after that I breached with an m4, it still had a foregrip but it wasn't near as bad.

>>31102098
>t. hoarder
They're shit guns and even shittier art desu senpai.

>>31102078
Get a better holster.

>>31102118
Not that guy, but pretty much every single Seal prefers the m14 to anything else the US military will issue. They require a bit more upper body strength but they're far superior to the m4 once you get a feel for them.

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itt: buttflustered poorfags with small/shitty gun collections

>>31102125
Just to clarify, the moss500 is a god tier pump in almost every way, the problem was the fucking foregrip made the action feel like complete shit and it was w3lded on or something I couldn't take it off.

>>31102146
Epic strawman
2/10 troll attempt

>>31102144
I was only rebutting that he said that people prefer it for aesthetics

>>31102146
>People don't like my hoarding.
>Everyone without dozens of cheap garbage milsurps is a poorfag
KEK

>>31102144
I stio have the M14. It's a shitty gun. And no one prefers it. That's why the SCAR exists. It was a stopgap that got flicked to Army poorfags as soon as the alternates were available.

Everything about the gun is poorly designed sans the trigger and iron sights.

>>31102158
>>31102169

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>>31102191
Could you try any harder?

>>31102185
Literally every seal I've talked to has told me they carry an m14 if their command allows it, and the ones that see heavy combat are allowed to carry whatever they want.

t. Navyfag

>>31102199
>appeal to authority
>no real experience
>still thinks opinion should be respected
KEK.

>>31102238
So they were just all lying to me? What the fuck are you saying? And I have fucking combat experience, nothing like most seals but I've seen my fair share of the shit.

>>31102258
>Muh authority
It's a shit gun.

>>31102118
Actually some do have steel actions and metal barrels. They do make some airsoft guns that are nearly 100% identical.

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>>31101928
Glock 21 .45
>fuckhuge grips
>uncomfortable
>build quality just didn't feel right
Went with a Sig Certified Pre-Owned P220 .45, West German, for the same price. No regrets. $500

>>31102288
Says the armchair commando.

>>31102309
>Went with a Sig Certified Pre-Owned P220 .45, West German, for the same price. No regrets. $500
NICE

>>31101977
>SKS
>complete garbage
Makes me wonder if you held one that wasn't cleaned well and wasn't shot often. I had a well loved Norinco that was comfy as fuck. Sure, the overall build quality looked ugly, but the action was smooth as butter, and it fed reliably. I wouldn't pay $>\= 450 for one, but for a $300 carbine, it was very nice.

>>31101981
>recoil is too damn strong

Nigger it's by far the lightest recoiling 308 I've ever fired

>casual shooting

Not very many military guns are Browning bolt gun smooth

I think you had a bad example doe the controls because mine are pretty smooth

>>31102146
mmm poast moar anna kendrickkkk got me all hard you asshole

>>31102258
>nothing like most seals but I've seen my fair share of the shit.
Uh huh, yup, whatever bud.

>>31102334
I'm probably spoiled. Used to Swiss guns and the Stgw57 barely recoils.

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>>31102258
>>31102348

>What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

I took a marksmanship class last semester and had an opportunity to use an m16, though it had been modified for use in a Combat Skills Trainer (pretty sure that's what it's called). It was connected to an air pressurizer which would simulate the recoil of an actual m16. It was fun as hell, but I really didn't care for the rifle itself. The sights were a pain in the ass, and I was never able to find a comfortable way to hold it.

>>31101928
S&W M&P9

dear lord, the trigger and ergonomics were shit on this gun

>>31101981
>recoil is too damn strong for the cartridge it fires, hard as balls to control.
There's something called a gas regulator, try it out

>>31102146
Let's see you're gun collection then, faggot.

>>31101928
>galil
Overweight, oversized and generally felt like shit. Massively overbuilt to shoot wimpy 556.
>thompson reproduction
It's SO heavy, weird furniture locations make it feel odd as hell, shitty controls, drum mags are kindof a pain to change out, sticks are better but still a bit shitty to swap.

>Springfield Reddit
>Glocknades
Just refused to point for me. I think it's that polymer frames just don't balance right. Never had any reliability issues on them, but that doesn't matter if I can't hit shit.
>Ruger 10/22
Only eats CCI stingers or minimags. Heavy and way too wide due to the shitty magazine. Marlin autoloaders are superior in every way except tacticool aftermarket trinkets.

Its a amerifats complaint about anything that isnt an AR episode again isnt it

>>31102918
On the contrary, I've had a blast shooting my G17. It taught me proper trigger control and now I can manage palm-sized groupings at 25m. Having to settle for sub-optimal standards is a very good way to learn how to work in better conditons.

>>31101928
Own the civilian version (CAN). Own an AR, own Garands, own a TNW MG34. Own all kinds of bangsticks. Shot numerous others.

The SIG 550 is simply the best assault rifle ever built. Rugged reliability of an AK, Swiss precision, if there was one gun I had to choose for the apocalypse it would be this one.

>>31101977
I agree with the galil, but otherwise it just seems like you hate everything.
>>31101981
Yeah, the FAL I held felt kindof gross in my hands. Another gun I was hyped for until I held it.

>>31102918
That 10/22 needed to go back to the factory. Mine will eat remshit thunderbolts all day long without hangups or FTEs

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>>31101928
>be lefthanded

>What am I???
>How, and the mag release?
>I have to do what to the charging handle?!
>This is worse than bullpups!

>>31103027
It wasn't mine, and it did have some "work" done on it, though I have no idea what.

My Marlin 795 was eating remshit, whitebox and CCI, but my friend's 10/22 wouldn't eject anything other than CCI.

>>31103039
Are you retarded? I shoot my ptr better left handed.

>>31101977
>shooting guns
tinnitus
>owning guns
wasting money
>touching guns
enjoy your lead poisoning
>talking about guns
wasting time
>being near guns
cancer

>>31102016
Not if you aren't literally retarded. The slide serrations are UNDER THE UP TO FIRE SAFETY. The safety is also spring loaded to go UP so you must literally push the safety so far down it gets past a detent to render the firearm "safe". You can use the fucking safety as cocking wings it's so rigidly in the "fire" position.

That whole meme comes from retarded grunts who tactically pocket spaghetti'd on pistol quality day when their nogunz ass flinched but nothing happened pulling the trigger of an M9.

>>31102056
>no recoil
No shit it's easy to use, silly boy :^)

>>31102032
As opposed to a gun that only has a hammer block safety ya dingus.

>>31103140
Does bait taste good?

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>>31103039
>Paddle mag release
>Not ambidextrous
>Left side charging handle
>Not allowing you to keep the rifle shouldered as you operate it

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>>31102309
>>build quality just didn't feel right

I think that's a thing about all the large frame/slide glocks. They just feel cheaper than they should.

That said, i love my G29 and i'll never get rid of it. But that's just because i like shooting super hot 10mm out of such a small gun, and taking it innawoods. I'm convinced it's the most fun a person can have with a glock.

But yeah, feels like a cheap piece of shit and it's sometimes finicky to assemble/reassemble (known issue with 10mm glocks).

>>31103039
>Being left handed
Hang from a tree you degenerate

>>31101994 you just have small hands, friendo

>>31101981
>Ergos suck
Either you have tiny manboy hands, or your ergos got all fucked up from too much AR-15 time. FAL ergos are basically a gift from god.

PTR91
>one piece lower/grip which feels like shit, don't feel like spending more money to get a slightly less shit grip
>I cannot begin to into diopter sights. I dont know what it is but I just can't deal.
>Delayed roller is retardedly violent with 308, which is weird because i shot a giggle switched mp5 and that was like a mouse fart
>any form of optic requires a stupidly high cheek riser
Shame because I still find it to be incredibly sexy

Underfolder AK
>just nope

Galil
>too heavy for what it does
>grip too thin
>my sausage thumb sometimes moves the left side "grip safety" if i'm more active than bench firing

Beretta Nano
>seems good on paper
>horrendous trigger, literally feels like its broken and you have to 'overpull' to drop the striker
>maybe its me but I hit at least a foot low at 15 yards

Sig P220
>feels nice enough
>an irl steampunk gun- "lets take a 100 year old concept and all of its limitations but make it look fancy"
>get a 1911 faggot, or if you dont want to be a bitch get a glock, fn, m&p, etc

R51
>there is not even a single redeemable quality of this gun. The pistol version of billy madison's weird puppy speech

>>31103318
Spot on on the ptr. Sexy accurate gun, but the sights blow and it beats the piss out of your shoulder. I would get one anyways, but the cost of a proper scope mount front handguard, and bipod make it way more than it's worth.

>>31102056
premium bait
here's a (you)

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>>31102960
>Having to settle for sub-optimal standards is a very good way to learn how to work in better conditons.

Cuck yourself harder b8

>>31103039
Manlet detected

>>31103889
Anyone have more of these? Google reveals the images, but they're all lower resolutions.

>>31103899
Only one I got m8. Sorry newfriend

>>31102016
what is a Beretta 92G?

>>31102078
seriously get a better holster. I'm running a Bianchi military holster and it works just fine

>>31103138
this this THIS

I own a M9 and every single time I've racked the slide I've had zero issues tripping the safety. The only time I managed to do it is when I intentionally angled my hand to put the safety down.

But that same day when at the range I had a malfunction (magazine wasn't seated properly) so I tap racked banged, NO ISSUES WITH THE SAFETY

I dinna like the glock for several reasons

Did not fit hand
Recoil less manageable for me

I prefer full size guns or heavy frame smaller ones

And I think that's ok

>>31103889
tell yourself what you want, but there is a reason why training has to be harder than real life situations. Just learning to manage the Glock's shitty trigger got me to competition levels with a better gun.

>>31103979
I had NO idea that existed. Neat.

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>>31101994
is this you?

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Sigh, this.

I love the look, love the bullpup, picked it up for the first time and.... it just didn't click.

I hate the look of the Steyr AUG but I picked it up and it just felt so much better and comfortable.

>>31103318
2/?

Nugget
>straight bolt is more difficult when I could be shooting my k98 or enfield instead with more comfy bolts
>straight grip stocks trigger a nerve in my wrist or hand and my hand starts to tingle after a while and my elbow hurts

PS90
>grip area is a little too european for my big american hands, my thumb through the trigger guard touches my trigger finger. I can leave my thumb resting on the charging handle but it doesnt feel as stable to me
>any sight on the rail is too fucking high
>any special built ps90 optic is too fucking garbage
>shouldn't have to buy a specially machined low rise aimpoint mount to see the fuck I'm doing

Five-seven
>grip even worse than a glock
>feels like a more refined hipoint
>I can see how some people might like the trigger but it reminds me too much of an early 90's computer mouse
>safety is fucking retarded
>mags feel too flimsy, although they work just fine in my use

C93
>same issues as ptr91

KSG
>if I wanted a giant steel stick smacking me in the cheekbone repeatedly I'd rather fuck my neighbor's wife

PPK
>muh slidebite

>>31101928

Ruger GP100.

>can't quiiiite comfortably reach the hammer with the thumb on my grip hand

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>>31101928
Glock 43 it's weird, it shoots just fine but the trigger was mushy.

Has anyone else had this problem? I can shoot any pistol just fine but weird triggers always bother me.

>>31104353
That's odd, most people say that the 43 has the best trigger out of the glocks.

But also I'm the kind of fuccboi who actually likes stock glock triggers

Model 1917. 45 revolver. I was really excited about shooting it, but the half moon clips were a pain to load and empty, recoil bit my hand webbing enough to make me bleed, and its overall clunky nature just turned me off.

Any glock honestly. I can't stand the fucking grips they're just so weird/blocky feeling.

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One word : rear heavy.

>>31102294
This. The 8mm Marushin M1 Garand is damn near identical to the real thing. Buddy of mine put an old 1943 mfg stock on it as well. More expensive than a real gun, though.

>FAMAS F1
>safety
>sights
>reloading is a pain up the ass and hurts like a motherfucker without gloves

>>31101981
>>31103310

I think the FAL has terrible ergos too. The location of the bolt release/magazine catch is retarded, you can't even do mag changes rapidly because the bolt release is next to the mag lever. The FAL grip is also uncomfortable, plus it recoil unnecessarily rough.

I backed to backed it with the PTR the first time I shot either of them. I really don't know what people like about the FAL other than history.

>>31102336
You aren't the OP you fucking faggot

>>31104624
Can't shoot for shit with the Glock 43 stock trigger. I recently replaced the connecter with a ghost edge one, it does seem better when dry firing but I've yet to fire it at the range

>>31103039
Hey Ian! I love you're show btw!

>>31105569
How fat are your fingers?
Turn the gas action down
Get a different angle grip

>>31101977
M14
Bad
Pick one

>>31101928
The five-7
People always said it's a god gun
But it felt super cheap
Accuracy was worse than my sp-01
That overgrown 22 ammo was like $.6 a shot.

Definitely not worth the $1,200 price tag

>>31103248
Feels cheap because they are cheap.

>>31106554
They're trash bro. Get over it. desu 7.62 NATO doesn't really have a point outside of belt fed weapons either so it's doubling down on the retard train.

>>31101928
Tavor TAR-21
>Trigger is God-awful, even by bullpup standards.
>mag release feels awkward; having drop free magazines when you need to move your hand to the magwell to hit the release feels pointless.

I liked the bolt release though, smacking it after slamming a fresh magazine home feels badass.

>>31106596
I agree somewhat only because military grade (full size) ammo is not available to civilians, but combat effectiveness is demonstrated in fort hood shooting.

>>31101928
>>31101947
The G3 was also very front heavy for me. Why can't Euros into light weight guns?

>>31101928

Every time I pick up a Sig I am disappointed. I want one because they're sexy as hell, but it doesn't really feel that special. The grip is meh, trigger is decent, but it's a lot larger in comparison to any other gun in its class.

>>31106726
I disagree.
M14s are amazing guns.
They are still used as marksmen rifles even today.

>>31101928
AR my buddy had, fully stock, no changes. It just didn't feel right, had better groupings with Nugget and a Savage .22

>>31108272
With retarded amounts of expensive changes, but even the EBR is being phased out. The action beats it innacurate. Ask the marines(who used the m14) how many marksmanship contests they won against the army in the 60's - 80's

>>31101928
>Mini-14
Why would anyone seriously want one of these
>AK
Just feels unergonomic as fuck, honestly
>retard switch MP5
Surprisingly unbalanced

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Plastic garbage
Heavy
Not durable-falls apart under field conditions
Shit trigger

>>31110896
>Heavy 7-8lbs
>Plastic Garbage
>Not Durable
>Shit trigger
Nice memes but in this thread we are meant to talk about guns we have actually handled.

>>31105088

That's...two words, anon.

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>>31101928
Springfield M1A
>Heavy as a boat anchor
>Points like an 6 ft long iron rod
>Internals are manufactured worse than something you'd buy at walmart
>Operating system in general is basically just a bolt action rifle someone attempted to convert to semi auto and it shows in every single aspect
>Flimsy components
>Poor accuracy without a ton of work put into it

>>31110950
>we are meant to talk about guns we have actually handled.
Your mom could talk about a few ;)

>>31110975
More than likely, my mom lived a long life, had 4 kids and 3 husbands.

>>31108272
Literally no one who has been issued an Mk. 14 has liked it.

>rk62
Well, to be procise, the valmet m76
Maybe it was the overhype from the Internet, or because it was a valmet. Either way, the gun felt just normal and rather unexciting and almost disappointing. Something about it made it less fun than my aks.
The sights were top notch though.

>>31110970
It's not good, but it's not nearly as bad as you described it.

>>31111011
In the end, it's just a well-refined AK. Not to disrespect it in any way. Not much to get hype over though unless it's your primary raifu.

>>31104125
Seconded. This thing feels like a fucking boat.

Shooting it wasn't much better either. The trigger was complete ass and the recoil was surprisingly stout for a 5.56 rifle

>>31111011
>Maybe it was the overhype from the Internet
The sheer amount of retarded Upottefucks who cream their shit-stained underwear over it because they made it their 'raifu' is painfully obvious here. And before that you still had a decent amount of people who swore up and down that it was the absolute pinnacle of AK design and couldn't be any more perfect. Nevermind that 95% of these people had never, ever even held one.

>>31110950

I own an M1A3 with Steyr 1.5x scope

>it feels heavy (as heavy as a tavor)
>the scope isn't illuminated for what ever fucking reasons the Austrians came up with
>can suppress it well
>safety digs into your trigger finger

>>31111040
That's what happens when you design the externals before the internals.

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>>31111047
I enjoyed shooting the AUG, but the factory scope is probably one of the shittiest issue optics I've ever beheld.

>>31111047
Well, it weighs about the same as a Tavor, so yes, obviously. I don't particularly care for the scope either, its pretty shit. I'm assuming you meant to type can't, but I encountered no such struggle bus in getting mine to hush up. Also, your trigger finger must be a polish sausage if it rests all the way up on the safety. I have a decent amount of space where my hand rests.

>>31111050
I wonder if the x95 is any better. I know the trigger is supposed to be better, and the pistol grip seems to have a more vertical, which is good.

>>31111118
The x95 is very pedestrian compared to the regular tavor. The legitimate israeli service ones may be alright, but of the ones I handled at the NRA convention, I thought the standard tavor was miles ahead of it in quality and general robustness.

>>31101928
Savage 64

Hated it so bad

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>>31101928
Beretta 1934, or maybe it was '35

really disappointing for some reason

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>>31105211
You should see some of the crazy airsoft shit that's out there. There are some companies such as Inokatsu that makes full CNC steel airsoft GBB pistols.

Pic related, it's one of their full steel M1911A1's, they go for about $800.