Hey /K/ what's the best 45-70 for large bears? I can't

>>31096906
Fragmentation is always shitty for hunting. You want penetration and expansion.

Hornady FTX or hardcast lead.

Get the biggest softpoints with the most powder that you can. If it doesn't feel like the bear mauled your shoulder you need to go hotter.

>>31096906
>fragmentation

No. Hardcast is a go to for a lot of people in burr country

>>31096906
its the muscle/huge volume of flesh thats more of an issue than its actual skin

>>31097023
and its layered skull is fucking armor and enough to give 45-70 a run for its money.

>>31097019
This. Nobody I know of in Montana loads anything else.

>>31096906
dense bone and the fact that bears can be fucking 4 feet thick with possibly half a foot of bone to pass through total

cast lead is generally the anti-bear load. the size of the animal and thickness of it's bones are going to negate alot of the damage JHPs are going to do, unless you feel like putting 5-6 rounds into it instead of 1 cast lead round busting a 3 inch hole all the way thru it's torso

>>31097050
No, not really. Mini and musket balls with soft ass lead sure, 45-70 split it from asshole to appetite. Go Google bear head shots and tell me what you find

get a lever gun and have each round be a different one, prepardeness anon.

Wide flat nose cast lead with a gas check and load spicey.

50 BMG is the way to go for bears

>>31096906
Clearly you need to get a falling-block rifle and load it as hot as you can.

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45-70?

wtf?


You need BRRRRRRRRRRRRRT for bears anon.

sage for summer faggotry

>>31100794
Why not a full auto rifle in fudds five sebuntea.