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You have to equip a 6 man team to be able to take out 60 gangsters/

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You have to equip a 6 man team to be able to take out 60 gangsters/ un blue helmets/ generic poor quality combatants using only civillian legal gear. How do you do it?

Assume you have up to 60k to spend on each person.
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>6 taking on 60
You need at least 20 good men.
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>>31092441
That's some long odds you got there.

Might I advise some IEDs and all that. You ain't winnin no straight fight. Maybe acquire a couple inexpensive vehicles and some fertilizer.

Remember that beating a force don't mean cullin the lot. You gosta break their will to keep fightin.
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>>31092441

Barebones AR, PC, plates, Tokarevs.

Spend the rest on gym time, medical classes, range time, spare mags, good ammo, side skills.

Then just launch some good ambushes.
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>>31092441
>gangsters/ un blue helmets/ generic poor quality combatants

That covers a huge range. Niggers armed with hiponts, jennings, and a couple wasr10s are not the same threat posed by UN soliders who all have some sort of training, rifles, and likely have armor and possibly air support.

60 niggers can be killed in an hour at the local planned parenthood clinic. 60 blue helmets are going to require extensive booby trapping and clearing out before they arrive.
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6 rpks with a humvee and pcs
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>>31092501
This, but splurge on auto ar's for dat dere force multiplication.
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>>31092441
My entire sniper section armed with sr-25's with good glass, some m320's with he and 240's, and plenty of distance and concealment between us.
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>>31092508
Lmao, un blue helmets come from third world shit holes and are generally african tribal tier from my knowledge
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>>31092441
All good answers so far, but what about body armor? Web unrelated.
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>>31092548
>Implying they wouldn't use euro forces for operations here
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>>31092571
The op specified low quality forces. Your right though.
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>>31092441

Set up building for demolition. Lure them into raiding it. Once they're inside, blow up building.

Use the other 300 kilobucks for beer, whores, and dragon dildoes.

Done.
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>>31092441

Host a banquet. Food poisoning.
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>>31092548

What is this from? I mean I see the vice logo, I just want the name of the video if you can reference it please.
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>>31092534

Or I could just give one guy an AR with drums, bipod and a bumpfire stock and have him as the main hose for ambushes a la Ranger Handbook.
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>>31092707

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hQLrbfxeiQ
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>>31092715
Bruh you have budget of 60k
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>>31092570
I hate specs and niggers for this shit, they have no respect for themselves or others.

I hate inbred fucking idiots too, you go to fight them and everyone of their cousins show up like you challenged them too.
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>>31092753
Tribalism is alive and well in America today. It seems so foreign to me. I would be really bothered if my family jumped in on a little dust up like that. That is the kind of thing that escalates problems.
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>>31092441
Bait them into exposed positions and use a remote firing platform to snipe them.

If I was going to kill cops that's how I'd do it.
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>>31092441
Unless those 60 combatants are spread out, you're going to need more guys.
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>>31092471
Not if we're talking about Jordanian bluet helmets, they're as competent as your average Detroit dindu.
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1 tracking point system rifle setup a mile away.
1 heavy machine gun mounted on technical
6 AR-15s
6 plate carriers and other gear
spend the rest on IEDs and food and other supplies

Use guerilla/sniper tactics. All 60 would be dead in a week.
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>>31092808
I don't think you got the joke
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>>31092751
One could spend the rest on IEDs
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>>31092820
Yep, I didn't.
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>>31092441
Five mortars, ten shells each, one spotter.

AR15s all around.

Spend the last 9 grand on grenades and a thousand bucks for a nice steak dinner.
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>>31092742

Thanks man.

Is this the same one with the kid in the wedding dress or is that a different one?
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>>31092441
>6 Remington 700s
>600 rounds of .308
>good training
>hookers and blow
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>>31092852
It's a reference to a GoT episode about a character needing only "20 good men" to attack someplace. It was a regular forced /tv/ meme at some point.
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>>31092751

An AR with a few drums or butterfly mags and a bumpfire stock is only going to cost so much and only one guy would have this. Everyone else would have a basic AR. I have the benefit of being a military guy, so I could get these folks a lot of side training just by paying the friends if mine who do the training to come out and do a Saturday class.

Add in a membership at a shitty gym and in about two months we'd be ready to rock and roll if they dedicated themselves and had some prior knowledge (military, LE, armed protection)

It's doable.
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Don't you need to have three times the numbers your ennemy has in order to lunch a successful attack?
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>>31092919

Oh and as has been said, rest goes into buying things that can be rendered into booms. Clay pot grenades, fertilizer booms, tannerite and nails, homemade fire.
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>>31092878
>nice steak dinner
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>>31092441
>belt-fed AR-10 upper
>BFS for totally-not-full-auto fire
>solid earpro and plate carriers
>shitload of ammo
>technical
>Krinks for the people not manning the MG or driving
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>>31092441
> browning M2 machine gun done
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>>31092882
that was a film also there is one scene where they actually use hand signals and shoot while aiming the gun
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>>31092938
>>31092919
kys
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>>31093088

Cool. Do you know the name of the film if not thanks for the help/reply.
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>>31092878
Where the fuck can I buy a mortar with functional rounds In the us?
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>>31093059
Shit that's a really good idea

Set up 6 m2's with a couple thousand rounds each
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>>31092441
Are the gangsters high in their gang house? Or alert at a drug trade?
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>>31092441
Get them stuck between two creeks and issue mission type orders
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60k and take out gangsters for dinner. Have all food poisoned
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>>31092751
>you have up to 60k to spend on each person.

That is $360K total.
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>60 gangsters/ un blue helmets/ generic poor quality combatants
>La Raza, Black Murderers Matter, Islamists, and Establishment Loyalists

Clinton is giving them a rallying speech tomorrow in Nevada, here's a preview of her speech:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQq4LjSF2rc&t=42s
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>>31092548
>Third world shitholes
Back to school with you
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>>31093107
i think it's johnny mad dog
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>>31093199
is it just me or is Ben kinda stepping his game up?
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>>31093246
The redpill is irreversible

Once you question the lies they stop working
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>>31092789

If the White kid had his friends there and the niggers were still willing to meet in the bathroom for this, there's a decent chance on of them would have a gun or knife. Just saying, they don't show up for a fight willing to lose.
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>6 AR308s - $1000x6 = $6000
>6 plate carriers - $200x6 = $1200
>6 helmets - $300x6 = $1800
>18 25 rd mags - $20x18 = $360
>450rds of .308 - $150
>12 flashbangs - ??? $200x12 = $2400
>12 frags - ??? $200x12 = $2400
>combat fatigues (multicam) - $500x6 = $3000
>drone - $1000
>IR camera for drone - $1500
>an excuse - $40000
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>>31093337
Are flashbangs legal in the US??
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>>31093186
I meant to say why are you being so cheap, the 4k difference to get a real assault rifle is negligible.
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>>31092548
You fools keep underestimating your enemy when you know that in fact, they are training to come and kill you and your family, and your dog.
protip: russians and chinese are here already training to do so
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>>31093341
yeah?
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>>31092441
>60k per person

How much do hellfire missiles cost?
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>>31092441
Give everyone level III plates and carriers to hold them, some milsurp russian helmets, enough MREs to last a nuclear winter, and have them build a small bunker on an elevated position. Give them 30k rounds of 5.56, and equip 4 of them with AR-15s with BFS lowers and bipods, have them act as makeshift one man machine gun crews. Give the remaining two some 10k rounds of 7.62x54r and a couple of well oiled nuggets with some high quality zeroed optics. Be sure to also give them a few crates of homemade thermite and smoke grenades.
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>>31093337
>getting to remove kebab - priceless
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>>31092901
>/tv/ meme
>on /k/
?
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>>31092441
chicoms type 56
basic bitch ars
NVGs
IFAKs
rest on training
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>not buying an Alvis Saladin

Pic related. Armored car packing a 120mm cannon. Can be had for as low as $25k
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>>31092548
My uncle is in the un training some Indian peasants. The un in Africa are hiring ALOT of South African special forces for training people. Un is not african union
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2 guys in an Armoured car, 6 rifles, hit and run all day. The other 4 (2 on each side) will ambush the rest whilst focusing on the car, but these 4 will be the bait while the car will be the main killer.
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>>31092441
>not equipping them with suppressed sniper rifles, ghillie suits, and executing fire and move operations after every shot

Sure, they could hide inside, but these people in this scenario don't have backup, or air support. You could just casually keep plinking them off over time.
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>>31092441
6 x SIG 553 R
6 x Whatever 9mm they want
Ammo
With the rest, buy a Land Rover Defender, try to armor it a little then go
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>>31092441
get 40mm
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>>31092790
Totally not an ATF agent
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ar's with good optics and clip on night vision for night time. get good positions, just sit back and out gun them is probably my strategy. hopefully they dont have air support or artillery.
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>>31092817
>tracking point system rifle setup a mile away
That system is no where near a mile ready yet.
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>>31093598

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsV500W4BHU
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Five men get an AR, PC, plates, assorted accessories to his preference. Two premium flamethrowers are constructed and provided to two men. The sixth has a suppressed rifle of his choosing and is on overwatch wherever is optimal.
Raid on their house, assuming generic drughouse in semi abandoned ghetto neighbourhood. Overwatch and the three men without flamethrowers silently dispatch any perimeter guards. The two Flammenwerfers are escorted to opposite sides of the house, where the quickly spray through windows, onto hedges, sides of the building, etc.
All units quickly retreat into the surroundings and establish decent firing positions.
Eliminate any gang members that flee.
Woop woop.
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>>31092441

rent a 40ft box truck and fill it with pallets of sand.
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>>31096368

I saw what you did, anon. I saw.
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>>31092534
Suppressive fire is effective with 3-6 shots within 2 seconds, and a maintenance shot every 3-4 seconds. Full auto is a meme.
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A sniper with a Tikka T3, scoped, bipod. Four men with barebones ARs with ALICE gear from Mil-Surp and some shitty ghillie suit for the sniper. Probably give the last guy a 12 ga semi auto. A gym membership and rent for a cabin innawoods. Buy a second hand hilux for mobility. Spend the rest on ammo, explosives and misc gear like Amazon radios. Train in guerilla warfare and hit and run tactics. Maybe get a pitbull from the pound then train it in Schutzhund for a sentry/force multiplier
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>>31092441

I take about 90% of that money and hire more fucking people.

This is not Warhammer. Numbers matter.
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>>31097241
Lmao this guy knows whats up
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>>31092441
Anon I think you got the 3 to 1 rule the wrong way round

The real answer is to use 3 quarters of that money to hire more people, give everybody basic rifles and then try and split the enemy off into chunks

>Blue helmets
>Still believing the lel blue helmets meme
UN forces are useless because the UN is a politically spineless organization, UN peacekeeping forces are drawn from regular militaries of at least mostly functional states
You could be facing anything from sort of have their shit together Africans to highly professional European or American soldiers
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>>31097054
....yeah, but that is within 1 meter of each person. so you are talking about 180-360 immediate shots to suppress then 900 rounds per min to maintain. even that is impossible for 6 men to do, distribute on 60 individuals, and carry enough ammo to maintain. even if the enemy has no plan, no training, and are terrible shots, 6 men will be suppressed as hell.
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>>31093127
>6-man teams
>6 crew weapons
>one man per crew weapon

lol why not actually get some use of of the guys by employing them as the crew weapons they are supposed to be.
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>>31096256
>anyone by themself
you seem smart
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>>31092441
60k on each person

Conditions? Because I'm honestly feeling that I just buy an APC, a belt fed LMG, some

>6x60,000=$360,000 to spend
>Buy BTR 60 for about $165,000
>Buy two LMGs and ammo for $100,000
>Buy AR-15s, mags, and 500 rounds of ammo for everyone for another $8,000ish
>Buy Level 4 ceramic plates for everyone at 150/plate: $1,800
>Buy 6 PCs: $1,200
>Buy 6 helmets: $1,200
>Tannerite or equivalent: 50 lbs for about 150, so buy 200 pounds for $600 and make bombs

And we still at this point have about another $80,000 to spend. Could probably buy another, cheaper armored vehicle of sorts.

For $60,000/person, I like the odds of what those 6 people could do to fuck up a bunch of fucking chavs or nignogs.
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>>31098241
make these MMGs are you are on to something here.
and BMP so you wont get mobility killed by small arms
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>>31092441
>carbine gas
>1" scope tube
>bipod on non-free floated handguard
>sig brace
>swivel mounted sling
>knockoff shitty ranger plate
>white brimmed sunglasses
>religious quote shirt
I don't know how not to be salty about this
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>>31092441
1000 nuggets and a ton of ammo, have each man on the team bring their friends and friends of friends etc.
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>>31092501
MR556A1's and mod it for auto?
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>>31099056
He's doing more than you.
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>>31092753
>>31092789
>>31093282
the video bothers me for a different reason.

If I'm white and you're white, isn't it my responsibility to help you when you're getting swarmed by another ethnicity? Like would any of you simply walk by that and go, wow I shouldn't do something about this because it's not my business?

>I mean sure, I'm in my late 20's and they're in highschool, but if this was public, I would personally get involved.
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>>31092929
>What is Revolutionary War for $500
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>>31102060
Yes.
But you should defend anyone against aggressors. Not just people of your own race.
That is if you've decided it's worth the risk of getting stabbed or shot. But race shouldn't be the deciding factor.
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>>31102113
Fuck off, blacks wouldn't help you, I won't help them. Same goes for beaners and gooks
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>>31102113
Except... I've never seen a pack of white people attack someone who wasn't trying to steal something. I've literally never seen it. Although I will fully admit your position is more ethical, I however cannot personally conform to it.

>If I see five white people jumping the shit out of a nigger, I'm assuming the nigger tried to steal something.

>If I see 5 niggers jumping a white person I'm assuming BLM or they were trying to steal something.

Sure it's biased, but statistically I think the chances of me being wrong are lightning strike levels of unlikely. However, I'm not blindly going to follow this opinion, if you have information to change my mind I'm willing to read it.
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>>31102007
He's LARPing in a way that satisfies his paranoid fantasies while circlejerking with a bunch of other like minded people. If they actually wanted to be a response team, they would be focusing on outdoor survival skills and getting medical training.
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>civillian legal gear

Does this include explosives of any kind?

Because IEDs, hand grenades and mines are very effective in ambush situations.

And what kind of environment would the fight take place in? Thick jungle? Urban? Snow? This can have a huge effect on gear selection.
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>>31102132
That's not true. Blacks have had my back in school fights much like the one in the webm.
And I'm going to the range with my spic friend next week after he picks up his AR I helped him buy.

And goo/k/s are the master race, so you're just crazy.
>mfw you've had little to no experience with minorities.
>mfw yesterday I was getting called a racist and getting harassed on FB for saying certain races are more likely to commit crimes, now /pol/ is getting mad at me for being a nigger lover.
>>>/pol/
>>31102162
Ok. That's 'cause black have an extremely high criminality rate.
You don't have to deny facts to want to help those in need. The kind of shit those people are being victimized is the same shit that makes us fearful of the niggers and thugs in the first place. The guy getting beat up for no reason is on your side.
I live minutes from Baltimore and DC. I RARELY travel to either and I never go alone. I'm not in denial and I don't shy away from making generalizations, and staying out of situations, that will save my life.

But that fact remains that helping people (if the situation is appropriate) shouldn't be a racial issue.

>>31102192
They're focusing on border security, not being a response team. And you don't know he doesn't train in those areas. In fact, he probably does.
And LARPing is fun. So I hear.
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>gear
>$280/plates
>$140/chest rig
>$120/plate carrier
>$~$150 for battle belt (with inner riggers belt)
>~$50 for holster
>say ~$250 for all pouches
>~$120 for all mags (pistol/AR)
>total: $1110/person, total $6660

>guns
>Glock 17 ~$600 (after tax) + $120 for sights = $720
>AR-15 ~$1k + say $200 for additional accessories beyond free float forend, BUIS, sling, aftermarket furniture. So the $200 goes to like safeties, mag releases, BAD levers, shit like that
>optic ~$400
>tota: $2320/person, $13920 total

>extra
>Medical supplies, lets say $300 for everything
>pack, what, $180 for a good one?
>MREs, lol i dont even know anymore fuck it
>boots say $80
>surplus camo and shit can be had cheapish, say $80 total there
>eye pro, $100 for good shit
>ears, lets say another $100 for some decent electronic stuff
>$840/person, $5040 total

>Grand total: $25620

Well under the $60k budget, which could be used for ammo, spare parts/more and better food, spare gear, and a good number of mags, if youre going the "gloves off" narrative after things fall apart some could be put towards explosives and shit, while not necessarily "civilian legal", if youre fighting a guerilla war youre not exactly worried about that
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>>31092441
The scenario is very vague. Are they defending a outpost? Are they defending a town? Are they assaulting and you are defending a location.
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>>31102248
and the wiggle in the budget also gets you increased options in terms of optics, rifle parts, gear selection, and of course some GOD DAMN LUBE AND CLEANING SUPPLIES, i bet Abu Hajaar didnt show up with a handy bottle of CLP
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buy 1 used mig for $360k

in reality though I dunno
a drone crew would be most effective but that's also a cop-out answer

it's too location-specific (or operation specific) to give an answer

is it a raid on a single compound? or are they ambushing a convoy? or can they take them down a handful at a time, days or weeks apart?
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