So, /k/, what would you guys say the toughest, most reliable,

>>31088993
Glock 19

>>31089003
Best answer.

I've taken my 19 and ran it through dirt, water, mud, sand tests and only had failures at extremes.

Other pistols have dicked the dog on range trips.

Any reputable striker pistol
Ignore glawk fanbois

Well, getting mud, dirt, or general gunk into the action is going to make the gun simply not work. So find a gun that has everything reliably closed off.

Meme answer: AR-15 pistol

Glock 19

>>31088993

Glock 19. There are prettier guns, there are guns that feel better, there are guns I shoot better, but if it just needs to go bang, glock all the way.

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>>31088993
A good revolver.

Glock 19 is without a doubt the weapon I would choose if I was in a situation sort of like tomb raider, exposing myself to a variety of austere conditions, salinated water, sediment rich water, snow, highly foliated and humid areas, sand, etc.

Although this will never happen, if I was diving and knew that contact was likely when I surfaced, I think I would be able to count on a glock to work almost immediately in that situation. You don't need Maritime spring cups unless you are literally firing it underwater, a glock will naturally clear out water after the first shot, when you get into trouble is when the water is expelled and immediately resubmerged.

>>31089092
>>31089059
>>31089003
>>31089022

Any reason in particular that glocks run so well compared to others?

>>31088993
snackarov

>>31089118
Stupid simple and everything tucked away that could get fouled up.

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>>31089092
Dude you are the stereotypical glock fanboy faggot. Serioulsly kys any other gun is just as reliable. you fell for the meme

>inb4 mad hk fanboi
>pic related is mine

Dunno but I put probably 5-8 thousand rounds through a Glock 17 in the first part of this year with zero cleaning or maintenance of any sort and it always function, some of it was quite rapid firing too.

It never got muddy or thrown about but it certainly got wet a couple of times, it didn't rust.

>>31089118
It's not that it works better than other guns, but it has a very simple design, there is precisely the right amount of engineering on all the individual components that you're unlikely to encounter a malfunction that cannot be corrected by simply cycling the weapon

You pretty much never have to clean glocks intensely either, there are people who own glocks and shoot thousands of rounds without cleaning them once.

>>31089022

>dicked the dog

Well, I'll steal that phrase.

>>31089118
IT'S A MEME. GLOCK FANBOIS ARE CANCER.
Any HK, Sig, m&p, CZ(ESPECIALLY CZ) will function just as good if not better (ESPECIALLY CZ).

>>31089140
This.
Fixed barrel blowback will always be more reliable than a traditional browning action or the like just on the sheer number of moving parts. Glocks are reliable, but they're not Mak reliable.

>>31088993

G34

>>31089169
So just no frills simplicity, makes sense. Any particular caliber work best in this regard?

Makarovs are okay, but you are sorely limited by ammunition availability in the west, and finding any sort of personal defense rounds is a pain in the ass, isn't it?

>>31089199
This is a hypothetical, ignore availability or law.

>>31089188
9mm is plentiful, and has less snap than .40, .45 is fairly easy to find, but you're sacrificing capacity and the .45s have wider slides if that means anything.

Stopping power is a myth as /k/ will tell you, just buy whatever is monetarily feasible for you and have a couple boxes of holla' points or whatever handy when you need them

>>31089150
Glocks work dude. You can be a little faggot all day and call people fan boys but it doesn't change the fact that glocks are solid fucking guns.
Buy whatever the hell you want but if someone with no gun knowledge comes up and asks me 'what should I buy' the answer is 9/10 times going to be glock. I hated glocks too because I thought they were boring and ugly. Then I shot one and found myself doing quite well with it. I took back all the dumb crap I spouted from reading /k and now I just enjoy glocks as dependable, but not pretty guns.

>>31088993

Joke answer: Super Comanche

Real answer: Glock 19

Mk23 USSOCOM

VP9 lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOu5ZGfgtVk

>>31088993

Probably a MK 23
Glocks aren't nearly as good as they're cracked up to be.

Glock 17. They've seen absolute hell and kept on working, it's ridiculous. I'd take it over other models because I figure the original design would be the utmost reliable, but I've never really heard of a 19 fucking up either outside of the occasional lemon.

Hell, there was that famous site where some guy abused the fuck out of a 21 with minimal malfunctions. Buried it, shot it with a .22, dropped it out of a plane, froze it...I can't think of another pistol that could go through more accept perhaps a Makarov, but even then there aren't as many torture tests of the latter that I'm aware of.

Love the glock meme

go back to youtube nogunz summerfags

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>>31088993
You glockfags truly are delusional.

In order from (relatively) least reliable to most reliable
>gas operated pistols (AR pistols, some other more conventional (though very weird) handguns, etc)
>browning tilting barrel and walther/beretta 92 based locked breech pistols (ie. Glocks, 1911's, P38's, 92FS's, most modern day handguns)
>straight blowback pistols (makarovs, hi points, baby brownings, ppk's, etc)
>bolt action pistols (ie. chopped up rifles)
>single shot/double barrel derringers and rolling block/falling block pistols. (guns like pic related)

>>31089316
wew, forgot revolvers. Would say that they're on the same level as straight blowback pistols.

>>31089290
my glock killer oh no
it's okay HK still the best german engineering :^))))))

>>31089303
>many torture tests of the latter that I'm aware of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAEbbhRJNYw
MAC did one, it performed well given he ran out of ways to make it stop. Not too terribly much to go wrong there.

>>31089316
What about a Five-Seven? How finicky are they?

>>31089188

9mm Glocks are generally the most reliable, followed by the .45s. .40s have well-documented issues when lights are attached, but even without them there are issues (high slide velocity + worn magazine springs). The 10mms seem to work well with 10mm that's been down-loaded to .40 but not so much with the meme loads that everybody here pretends they use. .357SIGs have been noted as having some reliability issues when exposed to dirt (Paul Howe), in addition to the issues .40 has with slide velocity. Nobody gives a fuck about .45GAP and you'd be stupid to buy one.

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>>31088993
makarov is the only acceptable answer

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A Stainless Steel CZ75B is the most reliable handgun on the planet

/thread

CZs look like a browning high power and a sig had a weird retarded baby

>>31089431

A baby with frequently-broken trigger return springs.

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>>31089416
>more moving parts
>but also requires more lube because steel-on-steel
>more reliable than guns not held down by these qualities

Not sure why anyone would want a full sized pistol ie FNPs,USPs Full sized 1911s, Beretta 92FSs, CZ75s, Sig 226s for shtf or anything besides hard military use

What is the actual point aside from being a range toy? They offer very little over compact pistols in terms of ballistics, they are clunky, unconcealable, heavy, etc

I just don't get it personally

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>>31089465
are you a little girl?
like, not on the inside or anything.
but an actual female child

>>31088993
The Katana.

>>31089446
You can use fucking used motor oil for lube. Worrying about lube is the least of your concerns compared to corrosion.

>>31089330
If it's an Ian and Karl Mudbath Special, I suspect that most revolvers would get their cylinders jammed up and refuse to go into battery.

>>31089367
That is a funny way of spelling tokarev.

There is nothing manly or cool about carrying a gun that is too big and impractical for your needs.

Dudes who carry big ass handguns are on par with the fags in the battle rifle general who have never hiked, low crawled, maneuvered obstacles, swam with their rifles or frankly even hiked farther than a few hundred meters with their eleven pound rifles.

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>>31089494
This, literally anything can be used as gun oil in a pinch

pic related

>>31089527
Yeah sure you can. It can't all be graphite or white lithium grease. Lube is still the least of your concern.

>>31089494
or you can use a more reliable weapon and run it dry.
>flashbacks to AR vs AK shitposting intensifies

>>31089199
Nah dude. Hornady makes Critical Defense ammo in 9x18, pretty sure Speer does as well.
In regards to OPs question, my,
>AR15
Pretty fucking reliable, havent had a jam in the 500 rounds ive put through it so far (just got it 2 months ago)
>Canik TP9SA
Aside from being Turkroach produced, and a ~300.00 gun, its been pretty reliable. It HATES Perfecta with a passion (fails to return to battery every 3 rounds) but everything else runs smoothly.
Thats about it I'd say. Cant wait to get more guns tho.

>>31088993

MK 23 or a USP?

>>31089527
Is that fire cleans new bulk bottle?

>>31088993
springfield xd a better glock for slightly cheaper. better sight picture for sure
https://youtu.be/NlQ1lnWAcrk

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>>31089593
Yup

can't forget about heat activated frog grease either, works great

>>31089047
+1 for this. competitors with glock are...competitive meaning they've got similar quality

>>31089003
>>31089022
But you don't even have to gunk up a glock to make it malfunction, you just have to not hold it tight or put a light on it.

Priorities, are you more likely to get in a draw in a mud puddle or are you more likely to piss your pants and hold the gun like a girl?

>>31089465
>feels better in hand which equals better accuracy, >better capacity equals more oppurtunities to save your life or take someone elses or both

>>31089110
I've wondered before how a revolver would malfunction if it got external dirt on it. Now that I think about the cylinder and if it has an exposed hammer are the most likely spots to malfunction. I think it'd be a little more dangerous to attempt to use and more difficult to get it functioning again if something is hanging up the cylinder from rotating fully or at all.
A semi mostly just needs the slide rails cleaned up to keep working.

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top or bottom?
top: 45acp 13 rds-
bottom: 9mm 16 rds-

anything with an exposed hammer: bad. anything with an internal firing striker mechanism: good. its not rocket science

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As far as reliability goes makarov's are basically immortal.

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>>31089367
>makarov
>doesn't post a makarov

>>31089316
This.
>>31089330
No, revolvers are good because no FTF/FTE no matter how shitty ammo you use, but they have in no way sealed and have lots of small moving parts inside.

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Obrez

>>31089984
*are in no way sealed

>>31089503
Yea those two are so /k/ and wonderful, nobody else can make a mudbath like those two, right faggot?

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>>31089058

>The feed mechanism is shaped like an infinity symbol
>Ah, that'll do it

>>31089515

Alright, I'll admit to CCing a Hi Power with the newer factory mags with the ejection springs in them. I don't have any compacts and it's not bothersome so I'm just gonna keep doing it. Say what you will about me.

>>31088993
I would say pretty much any wondernine (including Glocks)

People will say that Glocks are the king of reliability but they forget that the Beretta 92 won the M9 trials, the Sig P226 kept up with it for a while, and the CZ-75 has been used by so many different militaries that they must be doing something right.

Personally I'd take the 92 over any of them though.

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2618

>>31088993
The romanian tokarev in 7.62×25

>>31091465

Not him, but you talk like a faggot.

>>31089367
True

>>31089926
Dude thats the pb ver. of the mak.

>>31089171
>implying CZ isn't up there with Sig and Glockfags
(ESPECIALLY CZ)

>>31089199
Ammo is cheap and plentiful even if it isn't surplus. IMO you don't want expansion in 9x18 because it's weaker than 9mm, more than you would assume. You want penetration first and foremost so you want 9x18 FMJ.