Holy shit /k/ I just found out you can buy Migs in this country

That would be awesome to own. There are also Saab Drakens that you can buy if that is more your style. If I was rich enough, buying and flying fighter planes is certainly something I'd want to do.

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>>31088597

Totally man. My goal is to get a private pilot's license in the next year. I've always loved aviation and been obsessed with planes. Looking through online ads, my mind is blown that you can buy old warbirds for not that cheap.

When I was a kid my dream was to be a fighter pilot but liberal brainwashing screwed that up. However if I could own a fighter plane as a civilian, that would be a dream.

The Draken is the sexiest airplane. That would be amazing to fly.

Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with buying or flying old warbirds?

>>31088684
Nice blog post.

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>>31088556
Don't forget about the cost of fuel, maintenance, qualified technicians to do said maintenance, all the endorsements + training to fly a single-engined jet aircraft, and hangar rental costs. Every hour of flight costs at least $1000.

>>31088903
It seems worth it if you can swing it.

>>31088684

>fly MIG slightly too close to no flight zone
>instantly shot down

>>31088556
No you can't. It would be essentially impossible to get certified, insured, and clearing to fly a mig-21.

There is a reason richies aren't doing it.

>>31088903
>1,300mph
>not bad

>>31089435
>There is a reason richies aren't doing it.
They do though. There's actually a decent-sized community of civvie warbird pilots. Just the other day I drove past my local municipal airport and saw a fucking F-4 Phantom parked on the runway.

>>31089435
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/usa/jet-flight-gms-ex-chief-bob-lutz

It's good to be rich

I wonder how much it would cost to buy one un-molested from a third-world country's airforce and fly it around said third world country strafing pre-designated targets all day...

That'd be a pretty fucking rad vacation.

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>>31088556
Steve Appleton did it.

>>31089479
I just want to buy a Hind, man.

>>31088556
>Mig-21

Good luck finding a municipal airport strip long enough to have that take off and land.

>>31089435
Not true. Money is the biggest barrier to flying warbirds.

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>>31089482

>Lancair IV

>>31089486
Me too anon, me too.

>Mi-17

>>31089486
Hey man, maybe you could rent one in Thailand or something? One of those weird countries that'll let you rent and shoot damn near anything you can think of long as you have the dosh.

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>>31089549
>YWN run an air-courier service in the Arctic Circle using old Soviet helicopters

Just end me, family.

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>>31089534
you literally have no point

clearly it is a completely different story if untrained civvies with too much bravado try to fly a high performance aircraft as opposed to a mig

he crashed an Extra EA-300 too

>>31089055
>PATRIOT US ARMY SOLDIERS GET FIRST 14S KILL IN 70 YEARS

>>31088903
This. There is SOOOO much more to owning a plane than just buying it. Goddamn things are money pits. You'll easily spend a Glock worth on parts and fuel/other incidentals in a month assuming you fly regularly. Do NOT get a plane unless you have shitloads of disposable income, even after buying and shooting guns on the regular.
T. We have a plane.

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What about helicoptors? I'd buy a HIND for sure. Too bad they sit near the million mark even when used.

Pic related, some ruskie woman bought a refurbed this thing so she could fly passengers or something.

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>>31089783

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>>31089789
>when the plane better looking than you

>>31088556

Try maintaining it, and you'll see pretty soon why not many rich people have on in their collection.

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>>31089796
I remember seeing a Tupolev bomber for sale on Ebay a few years back, there was a thread about it.

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>>31089812

>>31089783
>I'd buy a HIND for sure
Same. I can easily handle the financial side of acquiring and running a Hind, but finding qualified technicians to perform maintenance on it is quite difficult.

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This is all old news.

Several years ago, a friend and I bought 2 L-29s in connex boxes. Didn't really do anything with them, we sold them after a couple years. They were dirt cheap.

Also, it's the ejection seats and insurance that get you. Not so much maintenance or engines.
You can travel to Bulgaria and buy all the engines you want, for any plane, for about 5 grand a piece, plus shipping. That is a steal. Because an engine overhaul would cost around 1 mil.
Also,
Look at Controller and Trade-a-plane. There's some drakens for sale.

Pic related is the only civilian flying Hind in the US. Or was, I don't know if someone else brought more into the country.

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>>31089930
Got some more pics

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>>31089938
Mig 23 is now gone.
US airforce came in, made a stupid crazy offer, and left with the plane.

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>>31089969
Spare engines

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>>31089981

Does it come with any ordnance?

>>31090003
The FAA is very strict about that kind of thing.

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I wish I could own a mirage 2000 or mirage f1 and fly wherever I wanted to.

>>31089930
Do you work for a company?

>>31088556
>under a million
last i checked it was about 63,000 bucks for a disarmed one, they really are cheap planes. Where were you looking that it's around a million? They weren't even that much new.

>>31090380
Maybe I'm misremembering something, could have been an article about the bang-up-to-date ones with all the equipment included.

50 grand is much more reasonable.

>>31090197


Just set the contract with the DGA (& DCNS if you want the Navy version), and remember to offer them those sweet kickback bribe to ensure swift treatement of your order.

Simple as that. And having a fuckton of monies.

>>31090443
this was a while ago, and ofc it depends on the individual one.

http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/airplane-mig-21um.html

this article lists one for 150k. higher than i remember but maybe this one is in better shape than the one i saw, or was produced more recently.

>>31090471
Are you speaking hypothetically, or from experience?

>>31090512

What do you think? Like every frenchmen I have a Rafale in my backyard to paveway frog ponds just right.

The French developement/procurement offices are notoriously corrupted, just look at the Paki Submarine contract to see what i'm speaking of.

> Bribe their way into gaining contract
> Deal includes kickback bribes to paki officials
> For some reason the french govt decides to stop paying said bribes (upcoming election iirc)
> Said Pakis officials are pissed off, they send a suicide bomber to blow up a bus full of French engineers working on Pakis subs.
> Kickback bribes most probably returned.

TL:DR gib monies we need fancy wine.

>>31091031
You'd think bribing the Pakistani would be unnecessary if they're so bloody desperate it buy the subs that they're prepared to bribe the seller to get them. This whole thing smells of half remembered tabloid front pages.

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>>31091066

Have a nice read then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Karachi_bus_bombing

The main guy involved then became the French President.

Keep in mind all the other costs that will be a bitch.

>hanger rental
>flight lessons
>jet fuel
>maintenance time
>replacement parts
>insurance
>transport costs

>>31088903
>>31089670
>>31089798
>>31091336
I once had a coworker speak these words to me:

"If it floats, flies or fucks, you are better off renting it."

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OP, I have a little bit of stick time in Stearmans and B-25s. If you want to get a Warbird, get your PPL and learn to fly a Stearman, T-6, or T-28. A Mig-21 will be too expensive for you.


>Buying the aircraft.
Anywhere from $80-200k

>learning to fly it
You'll have to learn how to fly Jet aircraft, getting approval from the FAA as a new pilot to fly a high performance, ex-Soviet, military Interceptor will not be easy

>Paying to learn how to fly it.
Quick research shows that most Mig-21 pilots first learn how to fly L-39s, then move onto the MIG. at an average of about $3000 cost/hr for learning both aircraft, expect to spend $50,000 just on getting certified to fly it (not including being away from work and all that bullshit to go out to Nevada and take lessons).

>Annual/monthly/hourly maintenance.
Depends how much you fly. Some guy online says that for 25hr/yr, you'll be looking at ~$150,000. For 75hr/yr it'll be closer to $375,000.


My first flight instructor was actually in the process of restoring an ex-Polish Mig-21 twin seater. He was a fairly accomplished, retired Naval Aviator was had a potential contract flying as an aggressor for ACM training.
Pic related, his mig.