http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Se .../9541471356233/ >A

>>31047800
>The new NK-32 version can work not only as a reactive plane engine but also as a rocket engine

That actually sounds pretty neat

>>31047800
>no ecoboost

>>31047800
>patriot missiles
HAHAHAHA

>>31047800
Actual field date? Oh wait.....that doesn't really matter either.
>no other enemy AA can reach it.
So, we're not the enemy? I'm failing to understand the concept here.

>>31047873
>patriot missiles
Better than the russian equivalent, fampai :^)

>>31047981
AHAHAHAHA you so funny.

>>31047990
>combat proven, 100% effective versus Yemeni Scuds, had plenty of time to iron out bugs discovered during the first gulf war, well funded
>untested garbage, only the lies from kreml about effectiveness, underfunded, design flaws due to brain drain during the development period
Remember that every 0.9Pk claim made by russia has been closer to 0.02Pk when tested in combat.
I'd rather stay under the Patriot PAC-3 any day of the week rather than russian garbage.

>>31047847
Take those claims with a mountain of salt, unless russia seriously considers hauling the double fuel weight in oxidizers up to the stratosphere.

>>31047877
>So, we're not the enemy
Russia has conceded to the fact that their army is only good as a colonial police, propping up their bought dictators.
In those cases, a plane on level with the B-1B is useful to have.

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>>31047873

maybe it's the fact they american grew so reliant on ww2 era subsonic pieces of trash for their nuclear capability they can't really comprehend that bomber doesn't have to fly directly over fixed target to hit anything with its payload

or maybe because american missile technology is such a joke they can't really begin to grasp what stand-off missile platform is and how far away it will be launching nuclear warhead at new york or l.a.

hard to tell. either way it's sad and embarrassing to behold

>>31048306

I know, right? This is why burgers haven't won an air war since ww2.

Tally up how many F-15s vs how many MiGs have been shot down in air battles and you'll see why America lost the cold war.

>>31048649
i'm not even a burger but i will happily tell you you're full of shit

>>31047800
>The B-1B has been able to do this since the first flight,
On speed of 2000km/h ?

>>31048678
That's a joke, m8. There hasn't been a single F-15 combat loss yet. There's a reason the thing is known as the "Worlds Largest MiG Parts Distributor".

>>31048760
huh, i thought that was the Phantom

>>31048306
>guarding against standoff systems

That's what THAAD and GMD are for. And Aegis Ashore to a lesser extend.

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>>31048080
MADE IN AMERICA

AMERICA #1

YEEEEEEEEEHAWWWWWWWWWW

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>>31048080
BASEBALL

USA USA USA

Russia doesn't need aircrafts, they've got more than enough tanks and surface to air missiles

>>31048649
America lost the cold war because they lost less planes?

Oh I see, what you're saying is, the USSR won because more migs were shot down, thus easing the economic burden of supporting them.

>>31048090
I think they meant it works like the SR-71 engines-over a cretaun speed they were afterburners only, so sort of a ramjet which is a bit like a rocket if you really want to believe the Reds.

>>31049115
105:0 kill ratio IIRC. F-15 forever.

>>31049912
>>31049936

What does some literally limp necked fag dying on a water slide have to do with missiles.

>>31049949
And France will never be invaded, they have enough cannons and fortifications in the maginot line to last for a decade.
Berlin will never be bombed, all those 88s and flakturms to keep the allies away.

Face it, russia is a joke.

>>31050033
yeah, but i kinda meant the distributor of MiG parts nickname.

thought the phantom was called that and not the eagle. could be wrong though

>>31049936
>>31049912
Why don't you faggots stop getting shot down by sand nigger syrians with our shittiest manpads first.

Vatniks not even once.

>>31047851
>ecoboost
You coulda had a V8

>>31047851
As much of a sin as a 4-cyl Mustang is, I have trouble not being attracted to one. I love the styling of both the exterior and interior of the new Mustangs, and as nice as a V8 is(sound & power), I'd never use it at it's full potential which is why Ecoboost one is attractive to me with the better fuel economy and at least matching or exceeding the power of a V6.

>>31050188
That's what makes it the ultimate woman mobile.

So... additionally to being inferior in speed, range and internal bomb load, Lancer has also lost it's only real advantage against Blackjack in max service ceiling.
Not taking into account how Blackjack is being overhauled to 160M2 with new radar, avionics and smaller RCS, while USAF has to cannibalize few scrapyards and museums to keep alive few Lancers they have operational
Disregarding how Tu-160 can carry 12 nuclear capable Kh-55s and 24 Kh-15s whereas B-1B has been emasculated for conventional freefall bombing missions.

You're right OP, Russians are indeed back in 1970. Apparently they didn't get the memo and still have a real war to fight.

>>31050507
>introduction 2022
Russia finally overtaking the US, only half a century after the US got bored of the concept.
Con-fucking-gratulation russia, truly the inheritors of the world.
Get back to us when you get to the 80s with functioning stealth, air superiority fighters or a functioning society in general.

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>>31048306
>or maybe because american missile technology is such a joke they can't really begin to grasp what stand-off missile platform is

Nigger what?

>>31050188
exceeding.

>>31050109
>Why don't you faggots stop getting shot down by sand nigger syrians with our shittiest manpads first.
You first, and nobody's even supplying the hajjis this time.

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>>31047800
>Why are russians so worthless at aircraft and aerial warefare<

>>31047851
Shoulda put a 350 in

>>31048306
>B-52+ALCM
>Welcome to the '70s

>>31049912
>>31049936
That's your argument? A ride operator puts a tiny boy in front of two whales on a ride where weight distribution is everything, and therefore the US military is worthless?

>>31050691
Amazing. Can this lorry travel at Mach 2.0 and launch nuclear armed cruise missiles at California off the Alaskan coast?

Why is this thing relevant?
>The US cancelled the B1A 40 years ago

>>31051034
nice goal posts but i think they moved from where they were a moment a go.

The real question is why are americans so inept at missiles and air defense. None of those kinetic hit-to-kill interceptors are capable of stopping maneuvering supersonic target, because they're designed to work against purely ballistic threats.
Americans don't have designated missile hunters like MIG31, special jammers like Rychag or point-defense like Pantsir either. While Russians employ whole zoo of supersonic sea-skimmers, stealthy air-based super cruisers and supercavitating torpedoes specifically designed to sink CBGs, wipe out NATO airfields and evade US ballistic missile shields.

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>>31052138
Maneuvering supersonic missile will be ready pretty in same time, when kinetic hit-to-kill interceptors will show capabilities to intercept that kind of targets. Both are prototype now. That race never ends.

>>31050060
That is what the F-4 was called, and it's still technically true, considering the F-4 has shot down 306 aircraft in A2A engagements. The F-15 has 1/3 the A2A victories, but also 1/infinity the losses.

>>31052138
Remember that the vatniks lack those capabilities too.
In general, terminal phase interception is dubious as fuck, which is why the US plans to intercept over the Pacific unlike the russians who are too retarded to build functioning ships.

>>31050018
Yep, $50 says it's just an afterburner

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>>31048306
I am going to end the argument and trolling now.

The US has multiple direct energy weapon platforms at various stages of maturity, for all manner of warfare.

No matter how fast a missile is, it is not faster than the speed of light. For each pound of countermeasures a missile has on it to defeat a laser, it becomes larger, and slower, and the laser has even more time to just ding it enough aerodynamically to ruin its flight path, set it into a tumble, and let inertia rip it apart.

>nofun.jpg

The picture is just for example, not a definitive product. Not that you will waste much more time posting here now, as you were trolling.

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>>31056061
Let us all welcome American comrades to 1970s. Maybe in a decade or two capitalists will finally manage to produce and power up adequate analog of Terra-3, A-60 or Szhatie.

>>31056428
You could buy laser pointers stronger than that piece of shit 10 years ago.

>>31056428
>soviets made a dazzler in the 70's 10 years after the west did
>this is great technology
>slavs have still not yet demonstrated any kind of DEW

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>>31048649
F-15 has never had an a2a combat loss. Nice bait, 2/10, I replied.

>>31051034
>methanol-induced mental disturbance from a slav

What the fuck? That's a US cruise missile about to destroy a target lol.

>>31052138
Is it because the US has so many nuclear missile submarines, and worldwide distribution of conventional forces, that it isn't necessary to produce sanic-speed missiles for few vehicles, like Russia?

>>31052138
The reason is because US military policy is offensive, not defensive. Nobody is trying to attack the US, so defensive weapons have been considered unnecessary. Russias military policy has been one of defense, so they have put money and research into defensive weapons.

>>31056061
The thing with lasers is that there's currently no reliable energy source to feed mobile system for long time. Moreover, their use is limited to certain weather conditions, which is why LAWS was tested in Persian Gulf rather than in Alaska.

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>>31051034
there is no way, if you seriously can not recognize a tomahawk missile, or even tell which direction it is traveling in by looking at it, you do not belong here.

Nice job Russia, welcome to the 1980s, Tears for Fears were a decent band and Freddie Mercury dies in the end.

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>>31048649
>burgers haven't won an air war since ww2.

>What is Vietnam
>What is Korea
>What is Operation El Dorado Canyon
>What are both Gulf Wars

>>31048080
stuff a burger in your mouth, retard

>>31057862
If you can't deal with the truth, go back to sucking your officers dick like all russians do in their army.

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>>31052503
Brahmos? The USN is yet to come up with credible defense against Malakhit, Bazalt and Granit. Those were designed to work in networked packs, and will be accompanied by Kalibers and Kh101's approaching carrier task force at different altitudes from multiple directions.

By 2018, Blackjack will carry Zircon and this is a hypersonic glider delivering kinetic impact 50x higher than any existing air-ship missile. Even if THAAD had 150km range against maneuvering targets (which won't ever be the case), he'd be too busy hunting AShMs to keep up with the Mach 6 UFO. Americans have no defense nor deterrence against something like that. They're still 100% reliant on Russian RD-180 rocket engines to launch their own military satellites into space, let alone propulse their own hypersonic glider.

>>31057907
>Even if THAAD had 150km range against maneuvering targets (which won't ever be the case)
[Citation needed]

Also 300 km is retarded short range for AshM, russian blackjack would be burning wrecks long before they get into range, there will always be AWACS on station during combat and undetected F-35s on picket duty. Also that thing won't be manouvering, you either go mach 6 or you manouver in a way THAAD can't catch up with. Try to do both and you'll break into a million pieces.

>>31057907
I'll believe if when i see it.
Russian defense production is full of flops lately.

>>31057907
>vatniks thinks russia will attack using future weapons while the US suddenly stops developing defenses and sticks to legacy weapons
By the time that missile is in production the US will have SeaRAM and direct energy weapons rendering russian missiles obsolete.

>>31057907
Maybe if you read something in addition to Russia Strong1! material you'd be more aware of things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vp-XDVauic
Boeing X-51 Waverider Sets World Record on Longest Hypersonic Flight

Also you have to be willfully ignorant if you think RD-180 is the only first stage engine available in the US.

Did you know that you guys got your tanks outfitted with French Thales thermal imagers. Why? Because Russia can't make them.

>>31057324
Right, because providing enough power for a laser is harder than providing enough power to continuously propel the 10,000 ton ship it sits on.
Also,
>wat r heaters

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>>31056850
>a dazzler
>slavs have still not yet demonstrated any kind of DEW
Kek'd. How does it feel being 30 years behind Soviets?

>>31058241
gonna fight godzilla with that maser?

RUSSIA SUCKS LOL
THEIR ARMY IS SHIT
THEIR PEOPLE IS SHIT LOL


>hitler 1939

>>31058290
I was always wondering why no one nukes them monsters in these movies when they see conventional weapons are useless?

>>31058310
I know why they're so insecure too:
http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=3073

>>31058326
Most of the time its cause there is some catch thrown in like "OH NO! Radiation just makes the monster bigger and stronger! So if we nuke it, it wins!"
That type of deal is in a ton of those movies.

>>31056428
Oh boy a laser dazzler!

It's like those things they put on T-90's that don't save them from wire guided missiles!

>>31058241
What is that?

The only reference i could find of that is a post on a conspiracy website with no supporting evidence.

>>31048282
>America has conceded to the fact that their army is only good as a colonial police, propping up their bought dictators.
ftfu

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>>31058241
the best part was when they applauded Boeing's airborne laser project as """"""cutting edge"""""" while the A-60 had already existed for decades. Hell, the Soviets even had Polyus. If there's one thing that the slavs can do right, it's produce military lasers.

>>31058802
America could topple the fourth largest army in the world with minimal casualties in just a few days.
Russia struggles against the likes of Ukraine and Georgia which proves that the apparent size of the russian army is irrelevant because it is filled with subhuman troglodytes who are totally inept at war.

>>31059322
>America could topple the fourth largest army in the world with minimal casualties in just a few days.
The Iranians managed to fought them off with literal human waves and dare to die infantry divisions, all the while suffering from a shit economy ravaged by sanctions that also wrecked its hardware as well as widespread purges. This, while Saddam's Iraq had lavish support from both the world's superpowers at the time, had massive advantages in men and material already, and have intact economies and could count on someone to bankroll them anyhow. Not sure if that is the kind of enemy you would be caught dead bragging about beating up.

>Russia struggles against the likes of Ukraine and Georgia which proves that the apparent size of the russian army is irrelevant because it is filled with subhuman troglodytes who are totally inept at war.
The Russians weren't able to mobilize the much needed amount of troops to inflict a curbstomp according to their own plans, yet they wrecked them in record time and the minimum of force anyways. And unlike the Iraqis the Ukrainians and Georgians at least had the inklings of how to conduct modern maneuver warfare. They just weren't lucky the master is right there at there doorstep.

>>31047847
Well unless they've built a design similar to SABRE, forget it.

>>31051034
Lorry? Who the fuck let this windowlicking soup sammich in?

>>31060425

>On a strike mission, F-35 can only carry two AIM-120D AMRAAMS.

I have no idea why people thing this is a problem. Obviously on a strike mission bombs are the priority. So what if you've only got two missiles? It's not like a single F-35 is going to be operating by itself.

>>31058241
>>31058241
>showing something thats demonstration was literally to 'shoot down' a RC airplane
>maenwhile a fucking US university in the 60's showed off more powerful and compact lasers


pretty sad tbqh

>>31058011
For one, AWACS shits radio emissions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-37_(missile)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-100_(missile)

And F-35 relies on satellites and AWACS in order for data fusion to work. On a strike mission, F-35 can only carry two AIM-120D AMRAAMS. Without external targeting, F-35 would have to activate the radar, exposing himself to R77. After that, well...

At least he will be spared from suffering of being sad fat ugly penguin.

>>31047800

>The new NK-32 version can work not only as a reactive plane engine but also as a rocket engine

That sounds like a regular afterburner. I mean, I'm sure it is fast but not rocket fast.

>>31052503
Because non of our enemies have anything that calls for supersonic missiles

>>31050122
Why has Ford not made a V8 EcoBoost yet?

It's a no brainer.

>>31047800
>first into space
>worlds fastest prop plane
>worlds largest helicopter
>worlds largest fielded seaplane
>worlds largest land plane
>worlds largest nuke
>worlds most used rifle

Yea man, those Russians suck at aviation and weapons.

>>31048080
>100% effective versus Yemeni Scuds
Then why do Saudi bases keep exploding?

>>31060783
>worlds largest offensive biological weapons program, after signing agreement not to have offensive biological weapons program

It isn't a world leader in HIV infection however, with just 1.1% of the population having HIV.

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>>31049912
Anyone have the gore/blood pics from this incident? Even a diagram of how and where he flew off would be nice. Autopsy or anything else on the wounds too.

thank you in advance

>>31060830
Suicide bombers?

>>31060478
The F-35 can still carry external stores and still have much lower RCS than anything russia have. Combine that with AIM-120D or MBDA Meteor, both of which are better than anything russia have and the fact that AWACS can spot threats far beyond the range of long range missiles, any Su-27+++ would be a burning wreck before it even got close to fire on an AWACS.

>>31047851
>tfw no late night /lpg/ thread

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>>31060942
nevermind I found some

The story that media, witnesses, and forum speculators seem to have settled on is that he was thrown out of his shitty velcro straps, thus hitting the safety netting resulting in his decapitation. He then follows the raft down the rest of the course, bouncing off the nets, maybe even getting some sick air at "the hill".

I think a slight variation on that might be closer to the truth:
He goes down the 1st big drop, gaining speed - the slide is made of segments and is not perfectly even. These bumps combined with the speed, then instead of throwing the boy out of the boat into the net, actually propelled the entire boat together all of the passengers into the safety netting. Being a lightweight boy at the tail-end charlie on a raft with two fat women in front, he was whipped into it harder than the women were. He had the most velocity in the normal angle to the netting, thus was driven deeper into it than the other passengers. He gets deep enough into it that when he ran out of slack in the net it basically rips his head from hi body and his body from the raft, out of those shitty velcro straps. He then follows the raft down the rest of the course, bouncing off the nets, maybe even getting some sick air at "the hill".

supporting evidence in next post

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>>31061405
supporting evidence:
>physics says that without a force other than gravity pulling the raft down, the passengers and the raft follow the same trajectory - he would not have been launched out of his shitty velcro straps just from inertia, some physical thing had to pull him out
>the fat bitches suffered severe facial injuries, showing that they too encountered the net despite not separating from the raft
>the raft was front-heavy and under the minimum allowed weight, justifying the tailwhip scenario that slams a little boy into a net hard enough to catch
Thanks for listening.
Pic Related: It’s me and my bitch

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>>31061499
addendum: the shitty velcro straps were not a contributing factor. In fact, had they failed more readily he might still have his head. Or maybe not.

>>31048649
Lost the cold war. Last i checked the soviet union collapsed trying to keep up with america

>>31061107
> carry external load
> remain undetected
Haha

Also, when A-100 or Nebo M picks up F-35 at viable R77 range the so called first look first shoot principle of the F-35 goes down together with its fat ugly carcass. Upon being detected, F-22 at least has energy to dodge Vympel, pull 40+Gs and leave the scene at Mach 4.5

The F-35 simply cannot survive in contested environment.

>>31061499
>>31061543
Wait

what the fuck is this? sorry for slowpoking

>>31061788
Stealth is not an on/off switch you retard. Even with external stores the F-35 will detect any russian shitheap long before it can be locked on in return, not to mention that even if simultaneous lock is acquired, the AIM-120C-7 is far superior to the R-77, not to mention if the F-35 carries Meteors.
Any russian plane would be a burning oil stain well before they could even realistically retaliate and that is without stealth.
Don't come dragging with muh R-77M, there is NO plane in russia that can carry it nor is it ready until the next 10 years.
As a matter of fact, the majority of russias air force is using the R-27 which shows how higly they think about their poor mans AMRAAM.

>>31061838
a tangent

>>31061543

Wait... is that all blood?

Holy fuck, must have been gruesome

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>>31061910

>>31060478
>R-37
>Dropped 80s reject, may or may not be restarted for a plane in development hell

>K-100
>mainly a poo-in-loo project, not finished, russia might not afford it or even want it

With the F-35 in the air there is NOTHING russia can bring forth to even contest air superiority.

>>31058310
After the winter war it looked like you could do anuthing to Russia, and it made sense tho. Is just that they found help and grew some brains in a short time that saved them

>>31058468

Actually they do, just see the Ukrania invasion with Russia were t-90 confused the TOW system or incapacitated the missile in mid air, and when they hit it turns out ERA actually work.

But ukranians dont have TOW2 or tandem warheads though

>>31058918
the ABL could destroy objects.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq7ieXNoyVw
the A-60 was a boat plane.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beriev_A-60

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyus_(spacecraft)
Polyus was made to operate in space where lasers are easy mode due to no atmosphere.

You are either trolling, or are a fucking cherry picking asshole.

Please, please upload some videos or shit to make this interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LjKfs7MjYE
at 29 seconds in you see a man, dead on the inside.

>>31060830
Has any Saudi bases protected by Patriots gotten hit?
It needs to be present and fire before it can fail.

>>31060783
>Soviet/russia
How come every time you talk about air or space development, russians take credit for Soviet achievements but when you bring up Soviet crimes against humanity russians absolve themselves of responsibility because "lol, was soviet, not russia, cyka!"?