Chinese Asat first strike. All US satellites are taken out.

>chinese ASAT
>all US satellites
>any US satellites

Nuke China

>>30974856
a nuclear war

what the chinese move ?

>>30974903
>Nuke China
Plausible move.. The US isn't going to nuke anyone.

>>30974914
If you destroy the critical infrastructure of a nuclear-armed nations military, you're getting nuked.

>>30974900
Assuming the adversary is 'too stupid' is a myopic strategy.

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>>30974930
China could detonate a 25MT bomb in downtown Miami and the SJW's are not going to allow our racist government to nuke anyone. It. Will. Never. Happen.

>>30974953
You seem to think "SJW's" have any say in what happens when national strategic infrastructure is destroyed.

I don't think you can fathom how serious the situation would be.

>>30974953
Why even ask people's opinions when you have such a fucktarded perception

>>30974970
you simply cant fire off nukes when sat's are blown up.

>>30974997
>Nuclear missiles are controlled by satellite

>>30974953
>mfw idiots think the SJWs have replaced the jewish boogieman.

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>>30974997
>he thinks ICBMs don't have INS

>>30974953
>The communications, surveillance and early warning backbone of our military has been destroyed by a sovereign nation with hostile intent

>But we can't attack because we have to tell Tumblr first

If you honestly believe this I'm amazed you've stopped licking windows long enough to type it.

>All US satellites are taken out.

>What is the US's move?

Not a US citizen, but my move is to say goodbye to the species, we've just eliminated any ability to get off this rock into orbit for the next 1,000 years.

>>30975021
wrong point.

Nuking millions of civilians is not an appropriate response to satellites being destroyed.

>>30975065
Who said civilians?

>>30975052

I am sure all the countries with nationals in China would just shrug at their civilians being vaporized..

you cant simply fire off nukes. I need the push the 'Oppenheimer' red-button to educate you knuckleheads.

>>30975065
No, nuking every missile site, radar station and military base is.

>>30975021
>>30975065
>>30975107
That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

>>30975107
I think you made this thread without realizing what a massive deal it is to destroy US satellite networks.

>he thinks satellites are real

>>30975107
>>30975065
No, nuking a country that's just destroyed your nuclear early warning system is exactly the appropriate response.

>>30974856
First is to appease the black man first for taking away his pokemon hunting abilities. Then make sure the feminists have sufficient privilege so they wont riot as the cis white male go out to die for their needs and moral feelings.

>>30974856
Ror
And (you)

>>30975147
nope.

>>30975065
>strategic targets
>millions of civilians

>>30975374
Except it is.
Knocking out the entire US satellite collective most definitely warrants nuclear level response. Those satellites are a major component of our military communication infrastructure and early warning system for icbm launches.

Attacking those IS akin to declaring full scale war against the US and we would be forced to assume that the targeting of our early warning systems means that a nuclear strike is imminent.

That is absolutely a case for nuclear strike response.

>>30975374
If you attack strategic targets, you risk provoking a strategic response.

>>30975504
>>30975475

we are still taking heat 70 years later for two nukes in Japan, and the world is not going to go apeshit if we start dropping H-bombs for destroying machines in space?

Nuking the country that provides our rare-earth metals? nuking our bankers? nuke the country that builds our clothes/phones/TV's/everything?

wont happen.

>>30975532
>Nuking the country that provides our rare-earth metals?
If they are attacking our satellite network, then they are probably not selling us rare earths any more.

>nuking our bankers?
If they are attacking our satellite network, they are probably not interested in more financial dealings with us.

>nuke the country that builds our clothes/phones/TV's/everything?
If they are attacking our satellite network, then they probably aren't making any more consumer electronics for us.

>we are still taking heat 70 years later for two nukes in Japan,
By anyone who matters?

>>30974900
>US satellites are somehow invulnerable to ASATs because reasons

>>30975532
>we are still taking heat 70 years later for two nukes in Japan

No, we're not. Fucking tard.

>>30975532
>Nuking the country that provides our rare-earth metals? nuking our bankers? nuke the country that builds our clothes/phones/TV's/everything?

>Nuking the country that just fired the opening round of world war three?

Yes. Imagine that.

>>30974856
US ASat counterstrike, possible nuclear first strike.

>>30975532
>taking heat
Here's the thing bud, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
Nobody is going to take military action against the US for fucking up China.

Sure, libtards will screech about those cruel white men opressing people of color, but they can't do anything but whine. As Opp said, a strategic attack warrants a strategic response. Satellites are vital to US infrastructure. If people don't like it, it doesn't matter. Yuros already "hate" the US. But, they can't do anything about us because they are nothing with out it.

And basipally,
you're a retard.

>>30975532
>if we start dropping H-bombs for destroying machines in space?

You really have no clue how important the satellite network is huh. Must be why you're so confused as to the idea of a nuclear response.

nuclear strike.

there will be no chinese second strike. Because chinks still have liquid fuel missiles.

>>30975628
>Nobody is going to take military action against the US for fucking up China.

There is no way the US could fuck up China.

>>30974856
US takes out all Chinese satellites. There's a medium-to-fair chance they launch nukes too, surprise strategic infrastructure attacks in a time of peace are no joking matter.

>taking heat
The heat hotter than the solar corona in the heart of a nuclear fireball is the only heat anyone is going to feel here.

>>30974856
>country that has fewer than 500 ASATs
>taking out all 45,000 US military and 300,000 US civilian satellites
>when the US has access to an additional 8000-10,000 NATO satellites
Yeah nah

>>30975692
not at one time of course..

Lets say China started knocking out 10 a day.. what the F is the US going to do to stop it?

>>30975065
>Nuking millions of civilians is not an appropriate response to satellites being destroyed.
It is the correct response to a sneak attack meant to cripple you defense abilities. Oh and fucking space for everyone for longer than human civilization has been civilization.

The last time the chinks blew up a sat and scattered trash everywhere they were told in no uncertain terms what would happen if they did it again.

So, here are the issues.

If you take out US sats, you'll take out all sats with the debris and make most of space uninhabitable for decades.

Also, I don't know that they can hit our geosync sats yet, but we'll assume they do.

Now they've fucked over everyone, taken out our early warning system, military communication, and GPS.

Ya, they're going to have every strategic target taken out.

And for those saying 'oh, you wouldn't nuke china, they're your rare earth supplier, banker, iphone maker, whatever', those points work in the other direction too. Why would china blast our sats if we're such codependent buddies? Just to piss us off, or as a prelude for war?

OP's scenario is shit, as usual. And we'd rage strategic hell on them.

>>30975713
"It shall be the policy of this nation to regard any attack upon US military satellites as an attack upon the United States, requiring a full retaliatory response"

>>30975743
the minute we fire a nuke at China, they will fire their at us.. millions dead in the US.. havoc all over the US -- Instability is not what the Establishment in DC wants.

not happening.

>>30975713
Shoot down every Chinese satellite there is.

China may or may not have issues hitting geosync. America has none. In a space war, only one side is going to win and it doesn't speak Mandarin.

Bombing the launch sites is of course the obvious followon, and the USA wins at that too, with carriers, B2s, F22s, F35s, etc.

Side note: rare earths aren't special magic rocks only found in certain places. They are rare because they are so common, it's almost impossible to earn profit refining them, and thus only hyperpolluting third world countries give a damn. The USA maintains a strategic reserve anyway, just because fuck China.

>>30975713
Then China gets about 4 hours of free reign to shoot down the 3ish satellites it can shoot down in 4 hours before 2 CSGs are steaming into Chinese territorial waters launching sorties to destroy every military facility within 500 miles of the coast, a dozen subs are parked spitball distance from the Chinese coast revving up nuclear SLBMs while another dozen are dumping conventional SLBMs on all the military facilities more than 500 miles inland, a couple B2s are in Chinese airspace waiting for word to drop their nukes, and a dozen B52s are halfway to China from Wright-Patt or similar loaded up with literal tons of JDAMs.

The Chinese military has 4 hours to curbstomp the combined might of 3 of the 4 military branches of the US or it ceases to exist. And they need to do it conventionally or the majority of East Asia will cease to exist, because if they use CBRN munitions in a first strike all of NATO is going to nuke them.

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>>30975660
>chicoms on the chans again
The US could obliterate China

>liquid fueled ICBMs

>>30975789
>Shoot down every Chinese satellite there is.
the first sensible post so far..

>>30975770
Thats why you fire and hit their strategic nuclear forces in a massive first strike.

>>30974856
Rejoice, for the eye of sauron has been poked out. Maybe pop open a bottle of Super Male Vitality in celebration, and tilt my head back in laughter as the estrogen mimickers exit my system.

Since that would provoke a nuclear retaliation from us, we can only assume that they have already fucked us in ways we haven't yet realized.

>>30975531
Is there a red phone in your bunker or something? Every time we start opiniating about nukes, you show up. I imagine some Mission Impossible-sounding voice on the other end of the 4chan Hotline-

>Oppenheimer, they're talking about nukes again. Handle it.

Click. Buzz.

>>30975877
I search on desustorage for nuke or nuclear

>>30975896
You should use google alerts.

>>30974856
>Chinese Asat first strike. All US satellites are taken out.
>What is the US's move?

Laugh its ass off as in the process the Chinese have made Earth's orbit a mine field of debris and destroyed Navstar, Glonass, Galileo and Ching-Chong-Ping-Ping-Billabong in the process.

>>30975896
Kind of funny. I do the same for recoilless and enfield

>>30975770
What's this "we" shit, Chang? You're about as American as Bishop Tutu.

>>30974856
>CHN fires and somehow knocks out thousands of satellites
>US sees this happening and puts all of its forces in Asia on high alert
>CHN executes the second part of their plan, which is an invasion of one or all of their neighbors
>Large scale open conventional war between US and CHN
>CHN has to fight a multi front war within spitting distance of their major population centers
>US has to fight across an ocean to counter Chinese aggression
You already know how this is going to end. At best, the entire CHN military will be in ruins. At worst, the entire country and its neighbors are in ruins.
This is all assuming that neither side panics and pushes the nuclear button OR that every nation in the world looks at CHN's world domination attempt and thinks "that'll sort itself out".

>>30975896
Good cover story. We all know about the 4chan phone, though. It's got stripes.

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>>30975660
>There's no way the US could fuck up China
Wew

Also Ching Chong you have 270 liquid fueled ICBMs you barely have MAD with fucking India.

>>30975532
again
>strategic targets
>>millions of civilians
there's is an ocean of difference between nuking military targets and nuking the middle of a city.

>>30976139
i dunno how chinese domination would be worse than burger domination, chinks are nice people unlike burgers

also if you are going to ruin their country and hope they won't use nukes on the american cities you are a fool

anyway i think they should develop their navy to take on the use, if they can take the american navy they can take america

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>>30975713
shoot them back? The US has the largest military budget in the world by a landslide. China would get roflstomped

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>>30975532

You know what else won't happen?

China destroying all of the USs Satellites.

>>30976529
>chinks are nice people unlike burgers
Then you have never lived under Beijing government.

If they start shit by hitting our satellites they have asked for everything that goes their way including a first strike response if the US sees fit.

China will lose most of its nuclear capability in silo and even if they managed to hit the US it wouldn't matter. China's government will have signed their own death warrant.

>>30975789
Actually, environmentalists have made it almost impossible to get a permit to even re-process mine tailings sitting in a pile for rare earths.

If that nonsense went away due to strategic necessity, we have a lot of RE-rich dirt sitting around.

>>30975065
>Nuking millions of civilians is not an appropriate response to satellites being destroyed
Chinks aren't people, so its alright.

>>30975011
You idiot, do you even know what SJW stands for? Single Jewish Women.

>>30975720
>Oh and fucking space for everyone for longer than human civilization has been civilization.
Maybe that would actually be a good thing for us. It would get all the dreamers to look down and realize they can't escape us.

>>30976529
>i dunno how chinese domination would be worse than burger domination,
You sweet naive child. If you think burgers aren't nice, you know nothing of world history. We're the nicest fucking imperialists there has ever been.

>>30974856
> All US satellites are taken out.
Not physically possible.

>>30976529
>i dunno how chinese domination would be worse than burger domination, chinks are nice people unlike burgers
Wew fucking lad
t. chink

>>30974856
Resulting debris takes out all satellites. Everyone is blind. US still wins because everyone will take the maps away from the lts.

>>30976540
>largest military budget in the world by a landslide
and most of that money is to pay assholes in DC to be assholes. The US Government is run for the benefit of its employees.

>>30976540
>The US has the largest military budget in the world by a landslide
US NEED to keep it's presence around the whole planet. China can gain local numerical superiority.

>>30979950
>US NEED to keep it's presence around the whole planet

oh come on. Every single country 'defends' itself just fine on 1/20billionth of the budget the US has.

DC is a business. An employee ran business. Its employees salary is based on the number of people they 'supervise'. Hire people - get paid more. Its a Ponzi scheme that's being going on for decades.

>>30979971
>oh come on. Every single country 'defends' itself just fine on 1/20billionth of the budget the US has.
Yes, and the US has the capability to end the world in ten minutes. You don't get that by spending 0.3% of your GDP.

You're also not even taking into account black projects. I'd wager a fair amount of those shitty failed programs started by the DoD were simply covers to funnel money into some new top secret aircraft or something.

>>30979971
Carrier - $1.5-2bln per year. One airbase in other country - $1bln. R&D - God knows how much( http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/07/31/Pentagon-s-Sloppy-Bookkeeping-Means-65-Trillion-Can-t-Pass-Audit ). All this and you have this: http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/2014/q3/us-loses-simulated-air-war-china/ simply because they have better logistic, infrastructure and recon capabilities on their ground than you have in ocean.

>>30974856
Good luck targeting those carrier killer BMs without satellite data.

>>30974953
Clinton would hit the red button just to be the first woman to completely fuck up another country. Never underestimate ego.

>>30979985
>Yes, and the US has the capability to end the world in ten minutes.

Do we need the capability to end the world in 10 minutes?

>>30979993
Again, its because our government is in business for themselves. They are only interested in bullshitting the populace into supporting an obscene budget and couldn't care less about actual results.

>>30979998
Her hubby, while president, sold china those advanced missile guidance systems that allow them to hit shit in orbit. Probably funneling the cash throw the Foundation.

>>30980010
>Do we need the capability to end the world in 10 minutes?
Considering Russia has it and to a small degree China has it, yes.

>>30976635
>China will lose most of its nuclear capability in silo

implying they wont predict how treacherous burgers are and wont launch the whole nuclear strike just as soon so the destroyed satellites would prevent usa to respond at time

>>30980010
>its because our government is in business for themselves
And how this will help US in our scenario when China killed NAVSTAR and other shit in space?

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>>30976155
They changed that.

>>30980010
There was no missile guidance system sales. Clinton okayed energy tech sales.

Israel, during the 90s, sold entire American python II missiles to china, then spout 'muh six billion' when we call them out on it.

Also, you don't have to target satellites to take down the DoD's piece of shit leaky comm structure.

>>30980017
Jeez Lee your China is showing

>>30974914
> Plausible move

It's not a plausible scenario, anon.

>>30975060
Don't be silly, militarizing space will leapfrog us to space colonies.

>>30980064
Israel truly is America's worst ally.

>>30975660
>There is no way the US could fuck up China.

Three Gorges Dam.

>>30980010
>Does America need the capability to end the world in 10 minutes?

We do to style on u m8.