Sup /k/ I picked up this m91 yesterday for 325. How'd I

>>30973898

Good find, stalker.

no feet/10

>>30974000
Thanks dude

>>30973898
Not bad. Who's the manufacture/what's the year.

>>30974034
You can see my knee in the one pic, if you're into that

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Mfw mosin are are the same price as mausers

>>30975245

1898 sestoyoretsk
It appears to be a finn capture as well

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>>30975906
Given its age, probably left behind in Finland when they fought their war of independence, or purchased by them from somewhere in Europe between the wars. I believe that serial number on the side of the chamber, just forward of the [SA] property mark, is a Civil Guard serial because it starts with a little "o" or dot.

A nice acquisition; you did well.

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Nice. Here's my Sestroryetsk

>>30973898
what you have is probably M24 "Lotta" -rifle; an M91 assembled from a pile of parts in early '20s as Finnish Army was struggling to acquire an adequate number of rifles in a good enough condition to be issued to troops, I believe B -marking on the barrel was a foreign barrel manufacturer's own marking.

>>30973898

Not too bad. It seems to be year 1898 Sestroryetsk infantry (long) rifle m/1891 with typical Finnish modifications and Finnish military "SA in a box" property marking (which was introduced in 1942). In other words ear sight settings have new metric numbers added and the rifle also has Finnish sling loops. The rifle also still has old Russian property marking - two headed eagle on top of receiver - Finns often removed the marking.

Rifle stock may well be original, since it seems to be one part. Be aware old sling loops used in these are likely to have "French screw" - the opposite of "lefty loosy, righty tighty".

I highly recommend doing something not too drastic for the active rust. Fine steel wool with gun oil might combined with some elbow grease might do the trick?

How is the bore?

>>30978302

Check OP's photo album - the rifle is m/91, not m/24.

M/24 rifles had new barrels made in 1920's.

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>>30973898
I got a nice m39 for 2 bills and some change this week

>>30979015

Sound like an excellent deal. Assuming it is the one in photo, it also seems to have original Finnish wartime (substitute) canvas sling. Finnish standard issue rifle slings introduced in 1930's are grey-green leather, but during Continuation War (1941 - 1944) shortage of leather resulted introduction of canvas slings.

>>30979068
yeah it is
it has factory stock repair in the back which is fucking neato

>>30979000
>M/24 rifles had new barrels made in 1920's.
and what makes you so sure this one's barrel isn't one of those?

>>30981429
It's a Sestroryetsk barrel. Whether the tang matches or not is another question. It's not an M24

>>30981536
fine, not M/24 then, just a random M91 slapped together from a pile of parts salvaged from a train car full of broken M91s that were acquired from WWI -capture stocks all over Europe...

>>30981593
>slapped together
I don't think you underastand how the Finns did things. Pretty sure it was in a Finn 2 piece stock also, finger splice would be wartime.

>>30981639
I'd say I do, considering I am a Finn & have read quite a lot about the early Mosin production in Finland, after the civil war Finland had a lot of Mosins, but most of them were in no shape to be issued to troops, so Finland started salvaging what ever parts were still usable & using them to build rifles, Finland also bought a lot of Mosins from various countries capture stockpiles, and as you might guess a lot of the rifles Finland got through these purchases weren't in any better condition than the huge pile of parts donors Finland already had.

>>30977163
That's a nice looking rifle famanon

>>30978979
The vote looked really bad at first, though the rifling was all shot out. But, I ran a vote brush with some solvent through it followed by about 5 clean patches and it looks really nice now. The rifling is probably the best of the 3 I have and bore cleaned up very nicely, it must have just been a lot of dirt in the bore. I cleaned! The barrel up to what it looks like in the pics with just a rag and some solvent. I'm not sure yet if I Wil go any crazier with it or not. >>30979015
Nice score there for sure

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>>30982021
>mfw found tikka m91/30
It actually shoots straight. Props to your ancestors but fuck them for mix matching my westinghouse

>>30975846
/r/ing lewd images of both knees

>>30982021
You really can't know how extensively OP's rifle was re-built until we see if the tang date/maker matches the barrel.

>>30983833
What does it mean if your tang is clean? My m91 i just bought has no marks outside of ss serial and obviously maker/year. Barrel has no marks either

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>>30979015
That's a pretty cute mosin you got there, boy.

>>30983907
If the tang is not marked obviously it was probably made by a foreign arsenal, either Remington, Westinghouse, or Chatellerault. There may be a small maker's mark on the side or top of the receiver tang.

>>30984025
It is a westinghouse

>paying $300+ for a mosin is a good deal now

The mosin is a steaming pile of shit. Its only upside was that it was cheap but now they're not worth buying. You're a retard OP.

>>30983833
it's an M91 -pattern rifle from before WWI, chances are it saw action in 1905 and during WWI before ending up in a Finnish armory, if not immediately following the civil war then at some point in '20s, if it were a WWII -capture it would have been rebuilt as an M91/30 or used as a parts donor for M28 or M39 -production (also the imperial eagles would have been filed/drilled off if it were WWII -capture), the rifle also has missing and/or mis-matching numbers which suggests it has parts from at least two rifles, possibly more, I'm fairly certain that if it had been rebuilt during or after WWII it would have been rebuilt as a newer design such as M39, instead it's the original (well, not the very first pattern of M/1891 with the rear sling swivel on the magazine instead of teh stock, but you get the idea) M91 pattern.

It seems your issue with my posts is about the extent to which the rifle has been rebuilt, you are correct, we can't say for sure how many of the parts are replacements/salvaged from parts donors, the thing is I never intended to claim that every single part on it came from a different rifle/something along those lines, the reason I said "slapped together from a pile of parts salvaged from a train car full of broken M91s" was because English isn't my first language & I had difficulties expressing what I wanted to say, so I exaggerated, not because I literally meant that the rifle must be a collection of parts from a 100 different rifles.

(btw in case you failed to notice, that last part about the parts coming from 100 different rifles is also an intentional exaggeration meant to be understood as such.)

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>>30984416
>if it were a WWII -capture it would have been rebuilt as an M91/30
Not necessarily. I have a Soviet-made m/91 long rifle that was captured sometime from 1939-1944 and not re-built.

>It seems your issue with my posts
I am not the Anon you were arguing with. I am aware that before the Finns began building m/91 with new barrels they assembled numerous rifles from existing stocks of stripped parts salvaged from older rifles. Since the only way to tell if this rifle was merely re-stocked in Finland —or completely re-built on a bare receiver— is to compare the receiver's manufacturer and date markings with the barrel's manufacturer and date markings I merely felt it was premature of you to suggest that the rifle was a complete mixture of non-original parts. This may be the original receiver that went with this barrel.

This is important for US firearms law, as the receiver is the part that is regulated. However, if it is an 1898-dated receiver then the rifle qualifies as an antique and is exempt from most firearms regulations.

>>30975885
It's not a 91/30, this is an actual collectors piece.

>>30984605
well as said the parts are mis-matched (number on bolt different from the one on receiver (though isn't the number OP is talking about actually on the barrel?-), other parts that usually have numbers have none...), while I guess it's possible that all those parts were just replaced one at a time at different points in the last 70 years or so, but I think it's more likely that it was in fact rebuilt in '20s

then about your M91, what I meant was that OP's rile has obviously been repaired at some point, IMO if it were captured during WWII and repaired then it would probably have made sense to rebuild it as something else, what with stockpiles of M91 parts probably being quite low in Finnish armories in 1940s...

>>30983833
This sounds like a dumb question because it is, but where/what is the tang? So I need to remove the stock?

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>>30983799
You like that, you faggot?

>>30983833
Barrel bands appear to be stuck on sOmething. I don't wanna.duck anything up on this gun, so I guess we won't ever know for sure. There is a 7 stamped on the outside of the tang tho.


Before anyone asks, those are my wife's panties, no I don t wear them, and there are no lewds of her to share.

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>>30985624
The tang is at the rear of the receiver. Remove the barreled action from the stock and look at the underside of the tang. Usually you will see a 2-or-3 digit date, and a symbol which corresponds to a manufacturing arsenal.
>pic related, a receiver made at Tula in 1904, now used on a 1933 Tikka/AV1 m/27.

>>30986260
Shoot, the barrel bands are stuck and won't come off. Seem to be hanging up on little nails. I've heard the Finns put them there to keep the bands from sliding off

>>30984605
>However, if it is an 1898-dated receiver then the rifle qualifies as an antique and is exempt from most firearms regulations.
So all I've got to do is stamp 1898 into my AR and it is exempt? Tell me more please.

>>30977163
>1899
Older than my great-grandad.

How does that shit shoot?

>>30986556
My 1894 dated 1942 M39 shoots great.

>>30986546
you'd need to take the stock off to qualify, including the tube it attaches to.

especially the tube.

>>30986633
Why? Did they not have tubes in the 1890s?

>>30986757
it's complicated, just saw the tube off at the base and you are good to go

>>30973898
wayyy too much. seriosuly.. 140 might be the top price.
i sold mine because it was not as accurate as my grandpas 30-06

>>30987682
a rare rifle is worth what ever the purchaser is willing to pay for it, SA -marked M91s are all in the circulation & with everyone and their mother bubba-ing Mosins left, right and center I'd say that Finn M91s in any kind of shape resembling their original condition are becoming pretty rare.

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>>30986415
>I've heard the Finns put them there to keep the bands from sliding off
That they did. Mine has the same problem and I've never had it fully apart.

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Forgot to add feet to this pic but got this for $250

>>30987912
first time seeing a Soviet marked hex receiver