If bullet accuracy isn't assisted by longer barrels then

Velocity -> range

Short range howitzers have short barrels
Checkmate

>If bullet accuracy isn't assisted by longer barrels

uhh pretty sure this is a universal fact

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If bullets do not exist, then how can you shoot? fact: I shoot almost every day and can not see the bullet come out. Therefore the bullet does NOT exist. checkmate barrelfags

>>30966996
longer=faster

bullpups BTFOing conventional layouts once again

>>30966996
Longer barrels mean more range; not more accuracy.

>>30968767
>more range; not more accuracy.

range = accuracy at distance.

>>30968767
>>30968783

Let me clarify, my .22 LR has a "range" of 20 miles, but at 200 yards it becomes so inaccurate the bullets start hitting the goshdurned ground.

Why don't they just make barrels long enough to reach the enemy?

>>30967083
>I shoot almost every day
>implying /k/ knows how to shoot

>>30966996
Lonerg barrels increase velocity, but do nothing (or at most very little) to reduce dispersion. Higher velocity means flatter shooting so you need to compensate less for drop and drift, but shot-to-shot dispersion is the real problem-it doensn't matter if you're firing a laser beam if every shot is 10 MoA off center.

>>30968879
*Doesn't

>>30968790
Artillery pieces get reasonable accuracy even at their maximum distances.

>>30968799
That's what a bayonet is for, also for pole vaulting

Who the fuck cares, we have shells now that can correct its course when fired 15 degrees off and still land within 5 meters of its targets.

Barrelfags BTFO

>>30968832
i know how to shoot my dick all over your mom's face

>>30966996
God damnit, bait-lord.

Longer barrel, more velocity (to a point). More velocity, more distance.

That DOESN'T mean more accurate, you simple fuck. That means that depending on the round, wind could affect it more if it's slower. But that doesn't mean more inherently accurate.

Actual checkmate, faggot.

>>30968790
20 miles? Are you that fucking stupid?

>>30970354
>wind could affect it more if it's slower
Only true if the bullet is the same weight. All else equal, a slower bullet that is heavier will be less affected by wind.

>>30970457
>he doesn't point his .22 rifle up at a 75 degree angle and arc rounds into the next County

Pleb

>>30966996
>modern powder burns faster
#resonant harmonics

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>>30970480
>be me
>be outside gardening because fresh tomatoes are where it's at homeboy
>sounds of pebbles hitting my garage
>what_the_fuck.jpg
>dozens of pebbles now
>they're leaving holes in my siding
>salvo of 22s hits me in the back
>mfw I'm paralized
>muffled cheeki breeki in the distance

>>30966996
Length gives range via velocity
Stiffness gives precision
Longer sight radius if using irons leads to a more precise sight picture.

Short stiff barrel = precise, shorter range relative to longer barrel
Long flexible barrel = longer range, less precision
Long stiff barrel = longer range, more precision.

Shorter barrels are inherently stiffer because of their cross-section. This is why precision rifles and target guns tend to use very heavy barrel profiles. The thicker the barrel, the stiffer it generally is which generally improves accuracy.

Precision in manufacturing, consistency of ammo, and quality of materials are also variables.

But like most things on /k/ people would rather argue about an oversimplification than actually educate themselves.

>>30970887
Keked loudly

>>30966996
Wouldn't greater velocity mean wind having less effect on your bullet, and therefore greater accuracy?

>>30970480
>not 45 degrees
It's like you don't even know how to maximize distance

>>30971043
>45 degrees
>hitting airplanes
>pick 1
It's like you don't understand potential

Funny considering proportionally shell to gun, most arty would between 6"-10" barrel handgun

>>30971019
Depends on the projectile and its drag coefficient. The wind affects everything the same way, but a higher velocity would give the wind less time to affect a projectile.
Sectional density and projectile mass have to be considered as well. It's not something so easily stated.

>>30966996
I'm pretty sure if you compared the size of an artillery shell to a bullet the artillery barrel is basically derringer sized