OK so let's say even more shit happens to prove without

FBI please leave.

>>30951017
Right because we'd discuss our real life plans for la revolucion on a 4chan weapons board

If you find yourself the enemy of the US Military, it's time to kill yourself before they do it for you. Guns alone won't save you.

Honestly OP if there was going to be a point where people were going to take to the streets for war, we would already be there.

We now know the feds have been arming ISIS, voter fraud, and much much more. And that's just this election.

>>30951036
I think you'd see mass desertion before any of the US military opened fire on their own countrymen.

Seriously, think of all the people in the military you know. Would any shoot an american on american soil, regardless of orders? They'd have to rely on drones and foreign mercs.

>>30951058
Where do you think the tipping point would be?

>>30951008
You don't shoot, purging is for antiarchist scum, you arrest and detain until the charges may be leveled in a congressional treason hearing, those who resist their lawful arrest are to be subdued and detained, those who employ violence to resist will be met as enemy combatants, those who abet the violent become principals in the violence and voluntarily make themselves combatants by violent treason; these too will be detained if possible for trail by congressional hearing

The problem arises when congress itself commits the treason

>>30951075
We should have passed it with the creation of the federal reserve. So the tipping pount was hundreds of years ago and we were born in ebemy territory.

>>30951059
Negative, you don't fully comprehend the enabling power if an authority figure giving an order that goes beyond sense, reason, or moral precepts- people have a strong incentive to hold onto a given community, all those soldiers going on about refusing unlawful orders? A large majority would follow them and pull the trigger, you're more likely to see whole units defect under a courageous leader than lone heroes- the officer corps has been under an ideological purge for this very reason

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>>30951107
>>>/x/

>>30951075
The tipping point had passed multiple times. The nation is too /comfy/.

Honestly BLM is more active than most "militias".

>>30951008

Nice try ATF, you almost had me going there.

You won't get doggo so easily

>>30951151
Tel me more about this ideological purge of officer corps

>>30951173
See >>30951183
There have been multiple points where the jeffersonian festival should have been held, we have allowed them to pass each and every time.

Remember Athens.

>>30951185
Nah this is genuine curiosity brought on by a chuck klosterman article.

>>30951205
What happened in Athens?

>>30951059
Kent State.

>>30951197
Officers won't maje grade if they espouse the servile ideal of the constitutional oath they take. If a junior says he will flaunt unlawful/unconstitutional orders, specifically iirc they are now asked about disarming the public, their career stops there. Granted we don't kniw how many loyalists lie to that line of questioning, but you can bet a good portion answered as honestly as those who flunked that test.

>>30951221
Google: Battle of Athens, Georgia.

>>30951221
Vets pinned local government inside the Athens town jail over a disagreement in policy until the vets got a resolution they were pleased with. Soldiers took up arms against local government abd fired on them with prejudice.

>>30951151
Exactly! Soldiers are trained to follow orders without question, to take out the enemy, whoever that may be.. If 2nd Amendment fags are ever labeled as an enemy of the U.S., you can expect to have a grenade lobbed through your living room window while an Abrams rolls into your backyard. If you happen to "escape", your every move will be tracked by a UAV. The moment you meet up with the rest of your buddies is when you get blown to bits by airstrikes.

>>30951281
Look, everybody. This is what the enemy thinks. They think the armed forces are Waffen SS and don't even know what the Posse Comitatus Act and UCMJ *are*.

>>30951059
Jesus Christ you're idealist and naive.

Look man, I'm assuming you have friends that are vets, or if you're young. You have friends that are DEPpers. Get than angry and let them talk
>someone should shoot those fuckers
>god I want to shoot those niggers
>those Hillary supporters deserve to die
>anyone who steps on the flag should be shot

Now give them not only permission, but orders to kill those people. They will, and they'll do so happily.

>but Soldiers/Marines won't shoot US citizens fighting for freedom

Firstly they already have, and secondly the freed fighters will be labeled as rebels and terrorists. I'm not trying to be mean but grow up.

>>30951281
You forgot the bit where I said entire elements would defect together because of the same phenomenon. Once a rebel army is established alongside civilian guerillas, you can expect the individuals within units to start deserting for their proper side of the war, it'll be a complete shitshow, expect old roman style decimations in reaction to the second wave of desertions, megatons of materiel is going to be wasted on all sides, fratricide everywhere

And then you'll start seeing the atrocities overflowing, it's going to make every civil war in any country previous look tame by comparison

We really don't know what horrors we've been asking for, but it's going to scar everyone involved and every news outlet that tries to cover it

>>30951335
>Posse Comitatus Act
>Only applies to Army and Air Force
Have you heard of the Army & Air National Guard?

The worst case scenario:
Heller is overturned
The AWB is restored
We enter/increase the market legally
This is what i actually think, sorry for being a commie, i look forward to you setting the record straight

>"soldiers won't fire on their fellow americans!
>*American civilians start shooting at soldiers*
>"fuck those guys" *shoots hostile civilians and rebels*
>"Ooorah, go team!, time to play some call of duty and then masturbate.

That is exactly how that would go down.

>>30951208
Nah you're a fucking shill/plant whatever. These threads, video game gun threads, and arsenal threads are fucking honeypots

Holy fuck the shills and pessimistic bitches up in here. Ask me how I know none of you have been enlisted, or at least didn't make it very far.

>>30951539
Man, it's a good thing I love honey, that and that /pol/ only allows satirical posts

>>30951554
Didn't make the cut, went in to learn the joys of drill sergeants and pay for college, they wouldn't take me without a degree.

>>30951281
you know nothing of the oath we took... fool

>be me, summer 2027, patrolling indianapolis, on watch for idiots.
>Local Kid starts bugging me for candy.
>I throw an MRE bag full of poop at him, kek.
>fuck hearts and minds.

>>30951501
I am pretty fucking redneck, most would consider me fringe right wing, and even if I knew an american soldier I was staring down was a born-and-bred portlander commie federalist israeli shill I probably still couldn't kill him just on account of him being an american twentysomething kid.

Could turn out all right if left to live. Probably would look like a high school buddy or something too.

>>30951587
>yee nigguh take this oath and MEPS bullshit then we get that papuh nigguh
>aye yo IMA marry that bich and get that BAH real talk
>oh shit thay won't me tuh shoot these white boiz
>fuck it nigguh box nood

>>30951604
Back to /pol/ ya faggot

>>30951008
1) The turning point for most everyone on /k/ and for most others would be soaring costs for food and other living expenses. Despite federal agencies that can do essentially whatever the hell they want, the largest incarceration/corrections system in the world, numerous examples of extrajudicial executions by security forces, blatant political corruption and more, us Americans have a pretty cozy life. Even if you are one the "underprivileged classes" or whatever, America is pretty damn great to live in. Most people won't risk their tasty microwave dinners and cable TV and swimming pools and nice cars because the NSA is keeping their phone records, or because they lock up Jamal for selling weed to his friends or dropping bombs on a Pakistani school or any other reason people get buttmad about. People won't risk their families security for others, but if they can't afford to feed them, they might start to fight.
2) Lots of different revolutionary groups throughout history have different ideas about how to mount an armed rebellion. If you think you should start in the countryside/farms in order to choke off urban areas of control then look into Mao, if you think you should start in the heart of urban areas look into Trotsky. If you think decentralized/anonymous actions that are easily reproducible look into insurrectionist-anarchism like the Conspiracy of Cells of Fire. Highly trained and mostly decentralized was a model followed by some neo-nazi groups. I don't know much about traditional American militias I guess.

>>30951008
2continued) Most extreme ends of the political spectrum tend to have all the crazies, and you have to be a little fucking crazy if you go looking to fight the biggest military in the world. Who do you think you shoot? The people passing corrupt laws, the people enforcing the corrupt laws, the people corrupting the lawmakers etc. I don't know shit about rebuilding infrastructure and services post-revolution, but my guess is that you loudly proclaim your self to be in charge now, and tell everyone to get back to work.

3)Honestly IEDs and such would probably be more common (at least in the initial stages), but as guns would still be necessary, probably whatever would be easily accessible to yourself and whatever group you would be operating with. Ammo availability and maintenance would seem to be very important aspects as well.
I wouldn't be aligning anyone because like I said, microwave dinners and premium cable and porno are pretty fucking great imo. Go play armyboy if you want but I want to stick my dick in the mac&cheese while I watch Skinimax.

AM I BEING DETAINED!?

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>>30951008
1. The turning point would be when I could get away with shooting someone easily and without legal repercussions, then I'd be more or less forced to protect myself.

2. I'd just roam, making sure to keep anyone who spoke Russian alive, possibly recruiting them.

3. I'd use a beautiful Krinkov, with a Makarov on my hip, ready to take over the nation for Putin.

Am I the only one who doesn't think a rebellion will happen? If anything really shitty were to happen, I think the congress would delegate more power to the states in the face of deadlocked policies.

So, any possibility of a civil war would collapse because the country would be in effect 50+ governments, then the issues become state rivalries rather than tyranny.

Any possible civil war would be states VS other states, rather than rebels VS feds. And then once the dust clears the federal government starts centralizing again.

Its like the 'autonomy' feature in EU4.

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>>30951672

>>30951687
The fed will never ceade any of their control bar a major split in the primary partys' ethical standards or lack thereof, which some of us suspect is one of Trump's main goals- assuming he isn't just as horribly corrupt and playing the game as the rest of washington

>>30951241
Kent State was a disaster for the government though, which basically had them lose control to the antiwar liberal counter culture and aided in the political defeat of the United States in Vietnam.

>>30951008
the turning point is due process for me. I realize that the suspension of habious corpus will happen in the event of war/civil war.

It would have to be the mass internment of dissenters.

so what would I do about it? leave probably. not a popular opinion, but I'm not going to support an strong man as they would shit up freedom. unless there is a nonviolent movement. I really do not believe in escalation unless I am literally prevented from leaving.

I think violent insurrection would spell the end of the united states. along with the freedoms that make the USA special.

>>30951539
I pretty much agree with you but how do video game gun threads fit in?

>>30951672

why does it have the string?

>>30951719
I don't think so, decentralization has happened all the time to empires. Holy Roman Empire specifically comes to mind. People being fed up with the fed can in fact boost the states powers in relation.

The rich states like Massachusetts, New York, Texas, and California will be much better off that the poor states who take more federal funding than they give back. Creating state rivalries and trade leagues. These trade leagues can become defacto independent nations if the Fed becomes weak enough. But that's just speculation.

>>30951751
>I think violent insurrection would spell the end of the united states. along with the freedoms that make the USA special.

Agreed.

>>30951814
You're assuming they must do things intelligently and effectively to garner voter support.

>>30951877

I don't know.

Will the Tea party sink this ship this time around when the next debt ceiling debate comes back?

I don't even know what happens if that were to happen, except maybe start the next great depression.

Crashing our economy would do the trick. I don't think angry Californians will want to pay taxes that go to broke ass Kansas or Mississippi anymore in that scenario.

>>30951913
I thought CA was a tax sink for the nation?

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>>30951059
You think so, huh? Kent state begs to differ.

Military follow unlawful orders all the time. Everytime you see a meme of army private mopping up rain as punishment, that was an illegal order they followed because they are scared to argue. I once had an staff, two techs, and master Sergeant all trying to chew me out because I wouldn't take off sunglasses inside. 30 minutes later and they still couldn't find a regulation saying it was wrong.

Even the higher level leadership will follow orders without question.

>>30951943
Whatever makes you feel persecuted, anon

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>>30951928

Nope.

>>30951008

Unless the supply chains are broken, you'll see little change in terms of Chad Random deciding to take up arms and try to change things.

There's a really good thread over on Zombie Squad about a guy's experiences during Hurricane Katrina some years ago.

https://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16627

Takeaways:
> Lone Wolf fantasies are just that, you're exponentially better off with a group of other people
> Stash extra guns, ammo, supplies, etc. for when things like guns are "requisitioned" (AKA taken at gunpoint) by people like LEOs and soldiers who are "doing their job".
> Be discrete about what you have. This includes hiding the fact you have power or food. Blacken out windows, etc.
> Food, Water, Fuel, Maintenance supplies (Oil and filters for generator, spare parts, etc) become worth their weight in gold
> In an area lacking comfort, comfort items (Cold drink on a hot day, etc.) go a long way to fostering goodwill when trying to negotiate for something you want
> Short range radios like FRS and CB don't work that well in an urban environment
> People won't think twice about shooting you if they're desperate enough, or perceive you to be a threat
> Badass mcTacticool paints a target on his back, people are going to want his nice shiny body armor and rifle. Dress so you blend in with the environment and don't stand out

It's a long read, but worth it. And this was all just for a short duration SHTF/WROL event. Long term has an entirely different extended set of rules which probably deserves it's own topic.

>>30951554
> enlisted
officer, lol

>>30952027
I think you'd initially see radicals acting as consolidated groups, but Americans are pretty damn reasonable.

I could see community policing just to bring about law and order with an end goal of prosperity. Highly doubt normies would allow radical lefties and radical righties to fight it out in their neighborhoods. Imagine armies of NIMBYs with guns driving ideologues away from markets, homes, and production centers.

>>30952784
anybody worth a damn wont be fighting it out in the streets. they will covertly bushwhack opposition and spread propaganda under your noses. early stages of civil war will involve carjackings to get burner vehicles and then those vehicles turned into car bombs detonated strategically with a short, concise justification in propaganda form spread as effectively as possible. you'll see top echelon movers in the business/banking/political arena getting assassinated. as it progresses and society begins to be locked down and an overt effort to quell revolt begins, the pawns tasked to protect those in power will begin to be hit. "protect the enemy and die with him" messages. by this time, through the release of propaganda, those who have been sitting by idly but willing to fight will have a clear message to stand behind and the conflict will have been framed so the enemy cannot capitalize on pure chaos with their superior forces and control of information media. next society falls apart and not only are you dealing with the pawn forces of original targets but with your own neighbors who are not prepared physically or mentally for what will happen. if you think you will go at it alone, you wont. trust is key but you must be intelligent and thorough with your choices. you dont necessarily have to work side by side but a mutual understanding must be reached with the people surrounding you. if you must take simple steps like spraypainting "revolt" in the street under the cover of darkness and gauging their reaction to it while subtly cuing them in to your intents, then do it. there are ways to form a resistance but they dont involve shooting every single person on sight just because you think "shtf" and no one can be trusted. this is also why waiting for some cataclysmic event (emp, etc) to get off your ass is suicide for your ideals. at that point it just becomes about survival because no struggle was framed by preemptive acts.

whats the tipping point? idk

>>30953959

Or people chill out and play Pokemon GO.

Stop 'end of the world' LARP fantasizing.

>>30954186
>implying a civil war will be the end of the world
>not realizing life goes on as usual in shitfuckistan during this

just chill and hit this bong bro you just need to relax and shit mannn like fuck ideas dude theyre not even real you just gotta do you and live as long as you can homie

>>30951943
>wearing sunglasses inside
>arguing about it

And that's when you get punched, sunglasses broken and thrown on weekend duty for 3 months. You're a faggot.

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Here's a read for you.

Feds go and stay go,
Reee government git out

>>30956177
This makes a slew of assumptions I know to be false. I don't care to point them all out, but they come in similar forms to this:
>"They would be almost no way of knowing who is actually on their side, and who is supporting the uprising."
Blatant errors aside, my greedy brain can think of about 10 different ways to track all incoming and outgoing information on a military base using a few greedy men at a security desk and some clever programming.
Between packet sniffing combined with custom electronic security search algorithms, cameras, and white noise being broadcast (using some sort of rng time-based hash value for broadcasts with legitimate content) during certain times to prevent electronic leaks. I could blackout bases during wartime with ease.
Combine your electronic security net with physical penetration testing, and you could secure a base enough walls.

>>30956472
>you could secure a base enough walls.
a base with enough walls

>>30951058
The US government is truly one of the great evils of the world

But average Americans don't care what their government does abroad, because social issues are the only things that matter

>>30956177

Disturbingly accurate. The ramping up of war against Russia increases as America divides.

I'd be interested as to why they thought attacking Trump supporters physically would work. I guarantee you that the build up to confrontation at the RNC was deliberately diffused by Obama to prevent a BLM vs. Trump moment that could have started the war.

I wonder if it will go off when they come for the 2nd. The elites know that the moment the population is disarmed then there's a big dent in any potential civil war opposition.

>>30956472

Does it matter if they secure and hold bases?

Use the planes and artillery on militia groups and you've guaranteed defections somewhere else.

In a hypothetical scenario where people protest the election result after fraud is revealed and you get a repeat of Kent State on a larger scale (+100 dead), then you'll have immediate moral defections followed by defections of those related to anyone who is now being hunted down or is related to thousands of preppers who are now activated because SHTF.

If it descends into a Syria situation, then the government will have to basically kill thousands of soldiers just to stop them fighting for the enemy, which will prompt more defections. You can't block all communications on base in that situation because it's now a war at home and families are dying. As operator as you may be, if they blackout comms then people will get upset

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>>30956472
>yfw you realize any security personnel hired are potential breaches as well

>yfw you realize contractors might be smart enough too realize that payment may be an issue with a large portion of the tax base in open revolt

Yes, packet inspection is great and all, but you have to have a dedicated team for that. What's more, you have to have at least 2 per base for 12 hour shifts, because the algorithm can and will miss something.

What's more, you're talking about building large walls around every base stateside.
This is no small undertaking, and would take weeks at the least. If this starts after open aggression, you can be guaranteed it will be delayed. Why?
Sabotage mainly, sometimes attacks. When people who helps the feds die, others tend to not want to do the same.

Next point, how do you plan on handling personnel and their families?
If they want leave, they can't have it for fear of opsec breach by word of mouth, if not paper. If the family comes on base, you have to ask how they will react to being cut off from the outside world.
If you do neither, what do government officials start doing when loyalist's family members start being killed in the streets? Because it will happen.

This is ignoring a whole other host of logistical problems.

>>30956869
Just have a crazy incest village where all of your personnel are your kids. Bam. Loyalty.

And if you want to make them strong, lock them in a dark room with an angry wild turkey.

>>30956869

I don't believe it would happen that quickly though.

The event that sets it off will be localized and although a bunch of preppers will be activated it will take a while to spread into true guerrilla war and only IF the government makes mistakes. The actions after the BLM attacks proved that they would likely accept ambush casualties in the dozens without a response of detentions that prompts further uprisings.

Every single one of these prepper groups is defensive. My vague ideas (not even actions towards it yet) of prepping are all about sitting around at home if things go wrong. That does not include IEDs or anything. The assumption most have are that it will be for REEEE GOVERNMENT GET OUT if they over come to your door during an ongoing conflict.

It's worth considering that most civil wars are from states that border those with an ongoing war. Those in Syria had a decade of insurgency experience in Iraq. The US Army priority will be securing the borders, especially Mexico, to prevent things flooding over.

>>30957630
A lot of preppers are a joke.
Nobody is talking about them.

The dallas shooting was small fry compared to what would cause such an uprising, it was also solved with the death of the perpetrator.
It's not an equivalent situation.
For an extreme, imagine BLM groups publicly killing whites. That would be responded to swiftly with overwhelming deadly force.

A lack of response from command in the face of ambush won't happen

>those in syria had experience
they had a few weeks/months of training by SOF before that.
Not only that, again, the US is a lot different than the middle east. They can't be equated.

>>30951059
>Would any shoot an american on american soil, regardless of orders?

A few vets I know would love to roll in with bradley and stryker BCTs through inner city housing projects to solve "the BLM problem"

And these were BLACK vets.

>>30951008

Turning point has already past, in my opinion. But there's no active resistance going on, and I don't exactly have the resources or expertise to do anything regardless.

>>30951795
It a magazine retention device.

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>>30958522

Some of these things are such bullshit.

>fleets of McVeigh vans
Maybe if you were several years into a genuine civil war. People talk big but 99% of the "tea baggers" and "militias" are just white guys with a gun collection and no intention of defending beyond their property boundaries.

There are the very few extremists who have plans of JFK-ing everyone in the gubmint. The vast majority of spree killers are just mentally deranged and will use the situation to do stupid things with no ideological goal. Those who do have very little success. McVeigh achieved absolutely nothing but mass murder and putting others under more scrutiny.

If your aim was to keep the USA white, then politically an improved Trump will still do more than any level of insurgency. Certainly in a parliamentary country.

The actual turning point would have to be a genuine attack on the people. Poor policy and corruption still can't be met with violence.

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>>30958770
>Poor policy and corruption still can't be met with violence.

thats where you are wrong.

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>>30958770
>If your aim was to keep the USA white,

HAHAHA this is how so many Millenial pukes on this site actually think, which is why they fell for the Trump meme. Enjoy your 100 years of Democrat control and scrapped 2A. You earned it.

>>30958770
>McVeigh achieved absolutely nothing but mass murder
Former FBI Director Louis J. Freeh thinks otherwise. Because he sent down memos regarding inappropriate ROEs(indirect reference to RR and Waco) and blowback, right after the OKC bombing. FBI did somewhat clean up its act after the bombing.

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>>30951008
cut the head off the snake and the body dies.
you have a massive riot (see Egypt 2010)and demand the FBI investigate the top officials for corruption and make it clear this is the only way to prevent a civil war. Till then its business as usual.

>>30951943
this is bullshit, because if your superior says "take off those sunglasses" you are to do so unless you can truthfully reply "I have a prescription that says I need sunglasses at all times".

To fail to do so is called "insubordination"

>>30960473

The part in red >>30956177 is the only thing that matters. The USA loses in any civil war situation. So they will go to any lengths to stop people organizing anything with the slightest potential to blow up.

The only thing that could potentially set one off is the removal of the 2nd amendment because a critical mass of people will interpret that as the population being disarmed for the wrong reasons.

The other assumption is no one could ever be dumb enough to just do that all at once because it will be resisted with force.

>>30960524

Nothing really changed in Egypt though. The deep state remained even if the regime fell. It was the equivalent of chucking the Bushes and Clintons in jail while the corporate interests endorse a Military junta to rule in their place.

The puppet changes but the hand remains the same.

>>30951241
>>30951943
hippies were basically communist, so not american

>>30956869
>>30956472

not to mention that you can't stop one guy from reading relevant info, memorizing it, and then leave, and go spill his guts to the local rebel intel officer, let alone, taking printouts and smuggling them out.

>>30951075
not him, but let's think about it together, agent:

examining mass shooters (people who we know are willing to take action and aren't particularly radicalized in any real way), one commonality sticks out from all of them:

hopelessness for the future. either because of threats of institutionalization, lack of career prospects, or just being an alienated foreigner in a strange land, mass shooters take action because they have no hope for the future such that, in their minds, it's better to risk death than to keep living.

foreign terrorists are like this too, especially ISIS's foreign brigades which are made up of disaffected euro-muslims who feel hopeless in their "home" lands.

whatever can cause that sort of hopeless feeling in a broad spectrum of the population will be your "tipping point". Once you have what amounts to a voting bloc that would rather die than carry on, that's when you get violence.

Food/material shortage is your "hard" cause for this, but I'd surmise that radicalizing factors could play a part. For instance, we've had some pretty harsh political rhetoric this cycle that could easily become what makes broad sections of the population hopeless if they lose...and that's on both sides.

Bluntly, I'm saying the election will cause violence, regardless of who wins. Both sides basically fear that their very ways of life are going to end under the opposing regime. That's hopelessness, and it's on both sides for different reasons, so I'd fortify things for around that time agent.

itt: the postmant fanfiction
armed insurrection in the US will never happen in a large enough scale.

the logistics of organizing in any meaningfull way escape most people.

a few groups may start to do something crazy and the government would just have to call them terrorists and do some disinformation campaign plus taking down their ability to communicate with the rest of the world.
but mhu freedoms! an overwhelming majority of the populance are happy and not feeling opressed at all.

>>30951600
You should study psychology so you can learn just how badly you've been brainwashed. You've been conditioned to love your enemy as long as they're branded American which means absolutely nothing nowadays. An "American" brown mudslide born in the USA to non-American parents surrounded by his brown Islamic community just shot up a gay club.

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>>30961453

The real WASP Americans are feeling very oppresed as a matter of fact. Hell anyone who is considered a constitutionalist/conservative is oppressed by the government and media regardless of color or religion.

Every time these threads come up they're either made by idiots or disinfo agents.

You need not lift a single finger military on a big scale. Everything will be done through assasiantions and "terrorist" attacks.

>>30962337
>oppressed by the government and media
>oppressed by the media
>the media doesn't reflect my views
>this is oppression

Holy entitlement, batman.

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>>30961453

>an overwhelming majority of the populance are happy and not feeling opressed at all

Even with a supposedly booming economy the satisfaction for most public bodies and positions is well below 50%

It's been sliding since the last crash, another one will push a lot more people out of that fantasy.

Civil wars usually start as protests - Syria in 2011, Russia in 1905 - that get crushed without mercy. The US government has averted this by peacefully dissolving both Occupy and BLM protests recently.

Now, if you were to have the Trump right wing protesting and they get violently attacked by police because MUH PC and several die...

>>30962349
That media is what's bringing about the real oppression. You strongly underestimate the media.

>>30964268
>FOX is the largest media outlet in the country
>some people disagree with you
>THIS IS EXACTLY LIKE THE THIRD REICH BUY GOLD NOW

Really, this became inevitable once parents stopped beating their kids.

>>30959914
You are either white, in which case you are a pathetic self-loathing cuckold commie-enabler, or you are a dirty shitskin, in which case you are wonderfully showcasing why each and every one of you need to hang from a tree.