How do you guys feel when traveling to countries or regions where you can't own guns or can't take a gun with you?
I'm from Switzerland and I have guns at home, but now I'm on vacation in France and I feel as if I'm a sitting duck. If shit happens I can't protect myself and it makes me feel very uncomfortable.
Anyone feel the same when traveling?
>>30933852
Kind of wary.
>>30933852
>Be Suisse
>Get bombed
>>30933869
This.
Stay vigilant swissbro.
You guys have many Americans immigrate over there?
>>30933852
>vacation in France
Mistakes have been made. You should trust your instinct.
Ah, poor little baby misses his security blanket.
Tried a mix of benzodiazepines and beta blockers?
>>30933940
>all that projecting
Oh wait, it's bait.
What are you doing in France? Especially now of all times.
It doesn't bother me much. I'm not typically armed when I'm out of my house. I don't really worry about being mugged.
In the event some sort of civil unrest occurred while I was traveling, I would leave immediately.
>>30933964
It's cheap.
>Slovak with CCW
>Going shopping in Austria
Really wish the EU would make an international CC permit instead of trying to ban semi-autos
I mean I carry a leatherman and when I'm a little antsier I have a flashlight/taser thing
Part of owning a gun means understanding what it can't do anyway, so when you're without it you have to rely on yourself.
>>30933936
>>30933964
>terrorism
>all the retarded potential tourists get scared off
>I can finally enjoy my village during summer
Fuck, I'm supposed to dislike ISIS
>>30933878
>Be French
>"Learn to live with Terror"
>>30933852
Also, doesn't Switzerland have stricter ammo regulations?
>>30933852
I'm from Michigan. My family took a trip to new york. Brought the pistol anyway.
>>30934003
No. That's a lie.
>>30933992
>Be American
>Get Shot
>Shoot back
>Kills Tyrone
>Media victimizes him and family say "HE DINDU NUFFIN!! HE A GUD BOI!! WE NEED MO MONEY FO DEM PROGRAMS!!"
>Get called a white male despite being hispanic
>Get your face photoshopped white on news screen
>Get used as a media attempt for gun control
>Get off the hook from fair trial
>Nig bogs and liberals chimp out
>They get gassed and peppered spray followed by arrests
>They loot and end up getting shot by roof koreans
>Gun owners across America buy more guns and sales increases
Feels good to be American
I go to Chicago a few times a year and usually take a handgun with me because it's a constant chimpout up there. One of the last times I got pulled over and fucked with by State Police for over an hour, so it sucks.
>>30933987
There already is an EU wide CC permit, it just isn't issued except you work in private securety or stuff like this
>>30934278
There's a second one too
>read as:don't follow laws that endanger your lofe
>>30934003
The only ammo that are banned are hard core ones (steel, tungsten, etc..) and explosive/incendiary ones
>>30933973
Everywhere's cheap when you're Swiss.
>>30933973
Not as cheap as London
>>30934616
Basically
>>30933852
I just came back from camping in portugal, I wanted to buy a machete because of all the dangerous wildlife people kept warning me about. But the store ran out of them, then I saw it a crowbar, if its good enough for Gordan Freeman its good enough for me.
>>30934631
>dangereous wildlife
What ? In Portugal ? What's there beyond a few wolves and boars ?
>>30934648
Not that anon, but I'd imagine Gypsies.
>>30934648
Lots of Portuguese?
>>30934631
>wildlife
>portugal
Portugal is almost a wasteland due to unregulated hunting and lack of civism because many people in this country just want to fuck things up for no reason at all.
>>30933852
I don't see how you would feel safer in your country considering you don't have the right to carry anyway. If you mean you feel safer at home, sure. But do you know of anyone who takes their guns to another country on a vacation, only to lock them up in some appartment anyway?
>>30934648
The boars were a big one people kept warning me about, the neighboring plot of land had hunting dogs the guy would let loose sometimes at night. And like the other anon said the gypsies. I am not gonna be killed by some dirty genitalia romani.
>>30934619
We'll wait till after they get their inevitable isis chimping attack and the dust settles so the pound drops a bit more.
>>30933852
I bought a lock for my bandana I took over there and stuffed it in my pocket when I wandered off by myself, and bought an ax too to shove in my backpack.
Not the greatest but it made doo.
>>30933940
>benzos and beta blockers
Shit nigger that'll tank your pressures faster than a few bullets to the descending aorta.
>>30934278
Unless you can link an official document for that claim, I'm gonna have to assume you're mistaken. Don't mention the European firearm pass, it is not a CC license.
>>30934656
It's safe as long as you don't have copper in your tent.
>>30934678
You're just wasting your time and worrying about nonsense. Boars aren't dangerous in this time of year. Don't let food around the camp and that's it. If a boar comes near during the night shout and it'll leave.
They can be dangerous in spring and September, when they're rutting. It also happens to be the time hunting starts and campers leave.
>>30934669
Well you can still pretend that you're on your way to the range
>>30934666
>because many people in this country just want to fuck things up for no reason at all
Like our Euro.
>>30933852
> be me, citizen of based Texas
> leaving today on a road trip to pick up my oldest son in Califailia
> want to bring AR in trunk as is my custom
> nope
> AK?
> nope
> shotgun?
> nope
> finally settle on a Glock 23C
> still sweating it because it has a 13 round mag and there's no way I'm going break it down and store it all in multiple containers like the Cuckifornian laws demand
Fuck that liberal fuck hole.
>>30934699
> have catastrophically high blood pressure
> normal BP is 170/120
> take beta blocker, angiotensin receptor blocker, calcium channel blocker and a high dose of diuretic
> take lorazepam for reasons
> pop 50mg of phenergan to sleep
> chase with vodka
> BP never drops below 120 systolic
> everybody's face when I stumbled around saying "I AM BULLETPROOF!!!!!!!"
>>30933852
Very much so.
In Europe it was almost offset by the feeling that I was surrounded by people who were more scared of me than I was of them. Even the foreign ghettos I just walked around confidently and never had any real problems. People tended to get out of my way, and the few that seemed like they might mess with me changed their minds quickly.
Southern cali is MUCH worse in my mind. Not only am I by law supposed to be disarmed, but people tend to be much more aggressive, and much harder to intimidate, so the need for a weapon seems much higher.
>>30933852
Thanks for making us Swissfag all look bad with you post.
The first thing I would address is stop being a fucking pussy and start becoming street smart. Train hard, travel and learn how the fucking world works.
Me and my dick have spent time in some unholy places and we have always come back safe. A functioning brain, a knife and some condoms were all I ever needed.
>>30934845
>and some condoms
Sure about that anon?
>>30934003
>>30934091
And I don't know why everybody thinks that we have ammo regulation ?
>>30934722
Ypur guns can't be loaded on you way to the range, magazine must be empty IIRC
>>30934751
You must be absolutely terrifying. I can't imagine how intimidating you are.
>>30934895
Because we have. OArm/Wv art.26
>>30934922
You can pretend you didn't know since it's not written nor explained when you buy your weapon/ammo
>>30933852
This summer I went to Munich and then toured the alps. I only felt vulnerable in some very small parts of Munich, otherwise I was in small towns with all white people and was pretty secure.
In these situations it is immensely helpful to be /fit/ and strong enough to fight most people hand to hand. Dont forget that your body is a weapon as well.
>>30934970
>Dont forget that your body is a weapon as well
Ban assault humans!
>>30934965
This could work, depending on the cop actually
>>30934958
Yeah we don't have access to certain type of ammo, but a lot of people think it's really hard to buy ammo and/or that we can't have more than XXXX ammo ect...
>>30934992
Did you aim for the child on that target?
>>30934992
Yes... No... Maybe...
>>30934992
Yeah I've "chatted" with Swiss that insisted like hell on the fact it's near impossible to get a hold on ammo or that it's hard to buy a firearm.
Some people are just dumb
>>30935009
was meant for >>30934999
>>30935011
Yeah well I just need a valid ID to buy ammo, without anny limits on the amount (except my paycheck, so not so much)
>>30935021
Technically you would need a PAA/WW to buy ammo though. But the guy never ask for it if you're a regular
>>30935051
Yeah true, but since I buy my ammo in the same shop where I buy my guns the guy never asked for my PAA's
>>30934751
And what about you scared them, if you don't mind me asking?
>>30933852
>Live in America
>One of the most diverse and expansive countries on the planet
>Just visit other parts of America
Though to be fair, I did my visiting Europe/Asia when I was too young to carry a handgun anyway.
>>30934749
How are you not dead? Are your arteries AR gas tubes?
>>30933852
Just be careful and avoid uncomfortable situations bankbro
>>30935345
>>One of the most expansive countries on the planet
Hahaha
>>30934701
this man is correct
>>30934365
well, of course you have that option. Friend who works at CZ told me they have a guy there who travels all across Europe on car for company things and he always carries and never got checked so never cared. He understands the risks.
If I ever feel like I'm actively being threatened you bet your ass I'll break the law, but until then, let me tell you a story:
me and a friend were hooning south of Bratislava one summer night in 2015. I had my gun, we accidentally crossed over into Rajka (HU). In a split second, all variants flashed through my head. Maybe they won't stop us. Maybe they won't check us. Maybe they won't frisk us. Maybe they'll take a bribe. Maybe I'll have to kill the witnesses. Maybe we'll have to hide the bodies. Maybe I'm fucked.
This all went through my head in a split second. Then we got to the first U turn, did it, went back. My friend didn't know I was carrying. We both laughed and hooned our way through Sitina before going home.
Moral of the story: i'm a wimp and the EU should have an internationals CC permit.
>>30935473
>3.7 million square miles
>The third largest country in the world by area
>Literally larger than Australia
>Almost as large as Europe
If "larger than a continent" doesn't qualify a nation as expansive then even Russia is a micronation.
>>30933852
>How do you guys feel
>I feel as if
>it makes me feel
>Anyone feel
WTF? I thought libtards were supposed to be the one with muh feelings?
How about you realize most places in western Europe are safe enough that you wouldn't need to carry a gun all the time even if you could?
(don't get me wrong I'm very much in favor of CCW for many reasons)
You have very few chances to be victim of a crime here, and even fewer chances to get caught in a terror attack. That's the fucking point of terrorism, scare people and get maximum attention with very few casualties.
Fuck, you have more chances of choking on some saucisson or being run over by a car.
Watch the cars tho, especially if you're in the South. This is not Switzerland, we can drive pretty recklessly.
>>30935640
Expensive fo a country means the cost of life and the prices for everyday items and goods are high anon. It's not about size
>>30935640
It was a fat joke you idiot
>>30934631
>The store was all out of machetes
Only in Portugal
>>30935679
Expensive=/=Expansive. This isn't Welsh, you can't just move the spelling around willy nilly and have it mean the same unpronounceable thing.
Visiting Las Vegas today, and Nevada doesn't recognize my Indiana license to carry. So my gun is going to be in its case, in my suitcase, unloaded, while I'm out exploring the strip with my friends. It kind of pisses me off, because Vegas is filled with crazy fucks.
>>30935364
My doctor is constantly amazed at my continued survival. My BP is just fine with meds. But if I'm off them for a few days I start getting nosebleeds.
It's an hereditary thing. My father had the same sort of thing. I remember his BP hitting 240/140 before. And he wasn't in any sort of distress. He was just chilling at work and they were doing free BP checks. The nurse almost shit herself. Anyway, once they figured out a medication regimen his shit went back to normal. I caught mine before he caught his. He was almost 50, I was in my 30s when I started treating my BP. Mt doctor thinks that we may have a congenital deformation of a renal artery. My renal function is normal, so he thinks it's only one.
> Travel to Kiev.
> Carried Cold Steel Rajah that I packed in my luggage.
> Better than nothing.
>>30935051
The fuck are you talking about? To buy ammo you just need an ID and if necessary a Strafregisterauszug.
Go read the law.
>>30936926
Mate the LArm/WG art. 8 and the OArm/WV art. 24 says you have to.
I know those two practicality by heart