So, it's not really WWI, but it will at least be entertaining,

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Weap list:

Standsch
Beretta Model 1918.
Bergmann Schmeisser MP18.
Browing Auto 5.
Remington Model 10 Trench.
Winchester Model 1897 Trench.
Luger Rifle.
Remington Model 8.
Cei-Rigotti M1895.
Winchester M1907 SL.
Martini Henry.
Springfield M1903.
Lee Enfield MK III SMLE.
Mauser Gewehr 98.
Steyr-Mannlicher M1895.
Winchester M1895.
Browning Automatic Rifle
Madsen MG.
British Bulldog.
Frommer Stop.
FN Model 1903.
Colt Pocket Hamerless.
Mauser 1914.
Kolibri.
Borchardt C-93.
Mars Automatic Pistol.
Steyr M1912.
Baretta M1915.
Colt 1911.
Lancaster Pistol.
Luger P08.
Mauser C96.
Webley-Fosbery Audo Revolver.
Smith & Wesson Model 3.
Bodeo 1889
Melee Weapons
Genades
Mines
Anti Tank Gun
Dynamite
Mortar
Tripwire Bombs.
Field Kit Weapons.
Stationary Weapons.
Tanker.
Pilot.
Boat Weapons
Behemoth Weapons
Cavalry Weapons

Some good ones from the period are already missing.

>>30782150
Yeah, it'll probably be fun, and it'll be a gorgeous game, but it won't be a good WW1 game at all.
>boneheaded choices on guns.
Like?

>>30782168
isn't there a mondragon?

>>30782208
Yes.
That list is sort of incomplete and you should always take these "leaks" with a bucket of salt.

>>30782150
Look man, very few people would play "Verdun rendered in Frostbite with destruction". Having some of the period prototypes in the fold is par for the course for BF. All of the modern setting BF games have the MP412 REX, the XM8, the AEK-971 and a bunch of other prototype/ limited production shit being available to every rank and file soldier. Why should BF1 be any different?

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>>30782182

I don't think there's any confirmation of this puppy, yet. I'm scared.

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>>30782237

I mean boneheaded as in "Why didn't this gun make the cut?"

Now, the list is incomplete, but it's missing some very notable firearms.

Hopefully by release we'll have a better idea of their weapons coverage. Ever since BF3 Dice have been doing the whole "We'll just put all the guns in the game." thing and I hope they don't intend to stop.

>>30782238
>>30782250

French stuff is DLC. So there's that.

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>>30782250
You know if there's anything missing they'll just throw it in a DLC later on.
You know, like how I bet there'll be a Lebel in the French Forces DLC.

>>30782263
>French stuff is DLC.

Interdasting, though the latter rifle isn't French. Because it's Russian, I'd expect to see it in the base game.

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No word on this ugly son of a bitch yet, either.

>>30782168
>Mars Automatic Pistol
I guess that this will be this game's Deagle.

>>30782311
I have no idea how they're going to implement the Kolibri.
Maybe as a joke gun?

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>>30782311

I imagine so, considering it was the deagle of its day.

I wonder if the gun camo will be replaced by trench-art style gun engraving.

>Reginald, I've engraved some Bengal tiger stripes into my Mars pistol! It's quite the barking iron, now!

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>>30782182
>it'll probably be fun, and it'll be a gorgeous game, but it won't be a good WW1 game at all.
This.
Fucking shame that even DICE didn't even take some initiative and put some fucking effort into making realism fun.
>bolt actions across all classes
>automatic reload without clicking/square press/etc.
>stressed as fuck officer yelling out you instead of monotone female announcer
>increased bolt reloading speed
>white for fuck's sake soldiers
>consistent weather instead of fog, rain, and clear skies in the span of 4 minutes
and obviously
>FUCKING TRENCHES
Who gives a shit if not all of WW1 was fought in trenches!!! It's what the majority of students in the world are taught anyways so they could have at least made some massive (golmud railway and firestorm size) trench maps. Instead we're stuck with this The St. Quentin Scar (and a few other similar looking maps) bullshit with a small tidbit of trenches in the fucking corner of the map.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zBQGY_p4QM
I seriously wanted to start out matches like this, each side fucking colliding with one another with little to no cover, balls to wall rushing with fucking bolt actions, 1911's and bayonets. Guess we're never getting it because DICE decided to copy & paste bf4 with a few tweaks here & there. So much for finally getting a modern day fps with an old setting...

>>30782404
There are white soldiers though.

>>30782400
There's an engraved Luger as a preorder bonus.

>>30782433

Interesting, I guess that means that engravings will be replacing the camos and such. Hopefully the Luger setup isn't the only one.

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>>30782400
>Shooting the Mars pistol was described as "singularly unpleasant and alarming".

My sides.

Also, the Kolibri is going to be Battlefield's new premier humiliation weapon.

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>>30782418
Well gee wiz, you don't say?
I fucking know that, but the ratio of white to black/Indians are fucking insane for a western front map. The Sikhs are understandable but having 20 to 4 black soldiers ON BOTH sides seems rather excessive, even from a "diversity" standpoint it's taking it too far.

>>30782493

What's the current humiliation weapon? I don't recall there being a hilariously underpowered gun in BF4.

>>30782168
>Luger rifle
Erectionbutalsoerection

>>30782512
Due to the low number of classes, they can only make so many soldier models. Since there'll undoubtedly be maps in North Africa, the Middle East, they probably decided making it like a 50/50 split was okay.
And really, no one will care, even if it is just DICE being lazy as fuck.

>>30782517
In the last 4 games the repair tool is the humiliation weapon.

>>30782552
What about the crossbow?

>>30782512
You know, it occurs to me that I'd have enjoyed playing a series of levels as a guy in a gas mask whose commanders are constant raging dicks to him and his fellow gas masked buddies and then have him take off the mask after the last level revealing it to be a black unit.

>>30782418
Yes but their are black soldiers, when there really shouldn't be.

>>30782404
Hit the nail on the head. It we be a game set in WW1, but it will be the same scramble and spray corner and cover shooter dominated by automatics, and it will feel exactly like bf4 after the novelty wears off.

I think gunning in a biplane will be fun though.

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>>30782546
>And really, no one will care
That's what really sucks out of all this. Literally the reason nothing will change in the current gaming industry because they know that their brain dead customers will continue to buy their products anyways because they know a majority of them "don't care."
>let's make George Washington black
>they don't care
>let's make Joan of Arc a male
>they don't care
>let's keep bf1 class weapons relatively the same with lmg's for support and bolt actions only for recon
>they don't care

>>30782617
That's normies for you.

>>30782596
I like it

That wouldn't bother me either and i think it would be more subtle than a black dude in a duster on the cover

>>30782617

Games aren't necessarily supposed to emulate the real world, though. I didn't get angry when AC3's DLC represented George Washington as a madman with a device that gave him infinite power. I didn't get mad that I had to kill him on top of a pyramid.

It is what it is.

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>>30782168

>No Chauchat
>No Lebel
>No Mousqueton Berthier
>No Meunier
>No Mauser Fliegerkarabine
>No Flieger-Selbstlader-Karabiner 1915
>No Fydorov Avtomat
>Ect

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>30782653

The list isn't complete yet. We already know there are guns in the game not on that list.

I am still VERY worried, though.

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>>30782168
>No Krag
>No Ross
So long as we make sure 3/4 of the Germans are black who'll care though?

>>30782664
The Lebel along with the Gew. 1888 and Mauser 1898 was the most common rifle of the fucking war.
France was the largest contributed to the war! For fucks sake most of the war in the West took place IN FRANCE.

I'm not even French and this makes me mad as fuck

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>>30782617
>You will never storm Peking and humiliate Qing China to protect your Christian missionaries from the Boxers
Why even live?

Fun fact: the Boxers may have had western weapons like Mausers and such, but they didn't know how to use them. They mistook the sights on their rifles for some sort of power selection. They thought that setting the sights for the maximum settings, like 1000 yards, made the guns stronger, which made it so Boxers shot right over the heads of the western soldiers.

>>30782724

As we get closer to release, I'm hoping these massive oversights will be rectified.

WE'VE LOST CONTROL OF APPLE

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>>30782741
Bf1 Boxer Rebellion DLC when?

>>30782284
The Russian theatre will also likely be a DLC expansion.

>>30782150
>Holding by the magazine

Of course this game would spread that meme

>>30782741

That sounds like every African military ever.

>>30782741
yeah they do make them stronger, when you adjust them to 1000 the bullets go higher and farther. duh

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what did he mean by this

>>30782760
>If "unenthusiastic handjob" had a voice

>>30782786
Really though, why the robot girl voice.
All the previous Battlefields had intense dudes screaming into your ear.

>>30782168
There'll be more than that for sure. battlefield 4 had more weapons in the assault rifle category alone

>>30782741
>>30782741
Why do I hear this meme about every third world or "uncivilized" fighting group? Was actually ever true, or just a recycled propaganda meme from over a hundred years ago?

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>spawn
>run around
>see someone who doesn't see you and shoot them
>OR
>Get shot by someone you can't see.
>OR
>See each other at the same time and actually have a firefight
>repeat

I'm SICK of it

>People complaining about lack of French guns
>They haven't realized that this game is "'Murkah vs Nazis: The Prequel"

>>30782822
Maybe you need to git gud son.

>>30782792
They claim it's a placeholder until they get the "real" announcer voice but I highly doubt it, especially this late in development.
Don't believe them when they keep reminding you
>"D-d-don't worry! It's only pre-alpha! They're still working on it! It's just a placeholder! Don't worry!"
Dice is lying and the fans are just in denial at this point.

>>30782783
He's doing some consultation work on the side for a WW1 game development?

>>30782208
Yes there are 2.
>>30782150
I was in the closed alpha. It is a fun game. Not bf4 it is very different.

>>30782860
looks like I'm #SpicedforDICE

>>30782819
As a student who have to take Chinese history class in elementary, junior high, and high school.
I can assure you that the boxer is true. It's just a natural course of undeveloped country gitting gud.

The sexy robat woman telling me apples is what i jack off to every night.

I love it.

>>30782822
Giiiit fuckin guuuud

>>30782912

I wonder if she's cute

>>30782741
>ywn be a muhreen fighting off hordes of chinamen to protect Americans
>ywn make a badass last stand by yourself like Dan Daly

Dammit man..

really though, I'm only gonna buy this for the gun list and because I'm a major graphix whore.

I also can't stand Verdun's janky as fuck animations and sound work.

No thanks. I can just go back and play more RO2.

>>30782951
If Verdun could get a little more polishing it'd be great, sadly the janky animations draw away from the gameplay

>>30782971
Yeah, the weapon models themselves are on point, but it just needs some serious polish.

And the SFX are really bad.
Like a gamedev just coughed into a mic for the gunshots and then said fuck it.

>>30782741
>ywn be Grandpa Dillon getting your arty on in the direction of Chinamen
>ywn remove dumpling while defending a hospital and then go on to become FLOTUS
>ywn defend the wall of the US embassy with sword and ladder kicks like a modern day Helm's Deep

I actually like how Battlefield games play, so I I'm looking forward to it. I don't know why people expected it to be a realistic game, despite the fact that battlefield has never been realistic in both gameplay and accurate depiction of setting.

Also, if they have to make a rush map similar to metro. that shit is basically trench warfare.

>>30782912
That's actually one thing I don't like about it. It feels rather out of place. Should have just made it so commands were shouted from some rando off screen in a tone appropriate to the situation you're in.

No, will still have that classic retard layout that DICE is famous for since BF3.

>one point near each deployment that is almost never taken away from the team that it's near
>all points clustered in the middle or near the middle within walking distance
>1 point usually just out in the middle of fucking no where that barely anyone goes to and is usually just sniper shitter central

That's pretty much how all of DICE's maps work. Fucking obnoxiously retarded.

>>30782822
Or worse, because the hit detection is just always awful
>see someone first
>begin shooting them
>they have enough time to turn around and shoot you and kill you
>1% health likely left on them

Happens more often in BF4 than I want to admit and it pisses me off every single fucking time. Doesn't help that bullets just go everywhere but where you point.

>>30782650
Personally I'm just bummed that they decided to stick with the generic run around and spray bullets approach rather than trying to make a fun system for slower more measured FPS.

>>30782822

It's almost as if positioning and tactics matter, anon.

>>30783147
> not playing on hardcore
Kys my man

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>>30783147
>your opponent shoot after you shot him
>still manage to land more shots on target than you
It's all you buddy, go play overwatch or something, where you can still be relevant even if you're a lousy shooter.

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>>30783147
>be FAMAS autist
>see someone first
>begin shooting them
>they die before they can even turn around

>>30782168
>>30782168
>Kolibri
WHAT

>>30782168
Fuck. All of the prices of the WWI weapons I'm trying to collect are going to go up

>>30782741
>>30782767
>>30782904
>>30782946
>implying Dice won't retcon it so the Boxers are all superhuman cyborg soldiers with megaguns killing evil cis white male imperialists apologizing for their tyranny as they get killed.

THIS IS THE FUTURE YOU CHOSE.

>>30783747
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2mm_Kolibri

>>30782783

shilling inbound. Take note that Ian will broadly forgive inaccuracies and anachronisms.


>>30782991

This is being fixed. They are distracted with the port right now but C&Rsenal is recording range shots for everything they can lay hands on and turning it over to Verdun.

>>30783900

please tell me the guns aren't going to look like that.... such BS.

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>>30782150

This is like reading Tolkien and expecting medieval arms and armor to be 100% realistic. It's fantasy based upon some real setting and real equipment but nothing more. I don't get why people are so upset. If anything it, like Tolkien and LOTR, will turn people on to the real history and they'll educate themselves. Expecting some authentic game from that time period to resonate and be popular enough with their target demographics to warrant an AAA budget is silly and would be bad business.

Half the people sperging out about it are the same ones I see repeating WW1 memes about gas being deadly and ultra effective, or believing trench conditions were like movie depictions 100% of the time, or sharing that stupid war neurosis film with the fake depictions of shell shock.

If you want an ultra realistic game donate to kickstarters cause that's they only way they're going to get published.

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>>30783900
But that's not even what the uniform for the black Germans looked like. Now you're just making a mockery of the colored people who actually fought and died for the Second Reich.

>>30782150
>Hey guys, it's a WWI game!
>Look, everyone gets SMGs!

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>>30783998
>this ballin ass mofo will never get the recognition he deserves
;_;

>>30784025
He's got a fucking dinosaur, what else to you want?

Do you see a Pattonsaurus running around Jurassic Park? What about a Rommelraptor? Didn't think so.

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>>30783900
>>30783922
>>30783998

Why are you guys even trying to rationalize it? It's obviously a business decision to bend history for the player base. It's why Battlefront has black grandma stormtroopers.

>>30782720
>wanting the Ross Rifle

It was a death sentence for the soldiers, jammed the moment it got dirty.

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>>30783900
Okay, I know Germany had black soldiers on the Western Front but this is just bullshit.

>>30783998
I'm drunk and yhat file name is HILARIOUS.
I'm probably going to get the game, regardless of how manyblack people abd automatic weapons there will be.
That won't stop me from fucking everyone with a mauser while shouting my new favorite phrase "wo sind die weissen frauen"

>>30782512

Would you care if hair or eye color weren't depicted at authentic ratios? Average soldier height and weight? If some ran slower than others?

>>30784081

A: SJWs don't have money so why bother?

B: The black dudes aren't half as annoying as the BS weapons mods and other crap. It's fine if they sell this as BF4 reskinned but they keep marketing on the "historical" aspect.

C: They'll do what they want and they'll succeed but that doesn't mean we should all shrug our shoulders and just let popular culture rewrite history.

I'm just glad this will end up putting more players on Verdun.

https://youtu.be/dln2dQyLNVU?t=679

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Verdun is a great game if you can ignore the mediocre animations and mediocre sound effects.

The frontlines gamemode is fucking great and is the closest thing to real trench warfare I've seen in any game.

the main menu is also comfy as fuck

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>>30784207
>LONG WAY TO TIPPERARY
>ITS A LONG WAY TO GO

>>30784207

Is it as mechanically realistic as the original Day of Defeat?

>>30784564
I feel bad to say it but I haven't played the original day of defeat, so I don't know.

CP and EP both have a line of like, 3 trenches, they attack eachother, if they succeed in capturing a trench they have to hold off a counter attack, if counter attack fails, they move onto next trench. If counter attack succeeds, the counterattackers have to hold off against the enemies counter attack.

So no bullshit where you capture an enemy trench at the back of the map allowing your entire team to spawn there

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>>30784689
If an attack fails then the attackers have to retreat back to their trench and defend it.

All the different squads have their own abilities and methods of spawning.
Recon squads spawn have their members spawn on the most forward member of the squad and can call in recon planes.

Assault squads spawn on markers that the squad leader places and can call in gas

Standard squads like the British spawn on their NCO and call in light mortar barrages.

Defensive squads spawn on squad members in their own territory and call in a single heavy mortar round

Weapons vary according to squads. Assault squads will have pistols, SMGs, and grenades. There's one class in the assault squads that run around with a club/spade with 4 or 5 grenades.
Defensive squads can have MGs and snipers, etc

It's pretty noice

>>30784689

Original DOD was the first FPS I played with realistic gun mechanics like recoil, spread, which had a learning curve for each weapon.

Even compared to modern FPS's that tend to be rock, paper, scissors with short, mid, longer-range weapons and standard recoil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPv_oeds2n4&feature=youtu.be&t=517

>>30784081
the empire had recruited all over the galaxies for their military, negroid

there's even alien stormtroopers

>but the eu is non-canon xd

>>30784740
>Squads of SMGs

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>>30784853
>try playing dod:s
>all the servers near me are full
>hey maybe I can play some dod:s for once!
>all of them are full of bots
>most of them are 24/7 dod_donner
>one full server near me with actual living beings playing on it
>map cycle
>map we're playing on is kinda shit
>admin decides to change it to [spoiler]dod_donner[/spoiler]
>turns into a fucking team deathmatch game in under 3 minutes
>admin literally says on the mic to not capture the middle tank
FUCK EVERYTHING GOD FUUUUUCK

>>30785084
it is now

>>30785108
Only like 1 member of those assault squads have an SMG, and only the German assault squads have it (MP-18).

>>30784128
Negatory. Biggest problem was shitty British-produced ammo.

Say hello to milsurp price gouging.

>>30785197
WW1 milsurp is already expensive if it's not in some unobtainium caliber.

>>30785151
That's okay then.

>>30782150
>Smith and Wesson Model 3
>Martini Henry
>Browning Auto 5

AHHHHHHHHH YES

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>>30785116
>not playing red orchestra 2
It's like you don't even want to lay down in a bomb crater as artillery flies overhead with hostile Ivans storming your position

>>30785291
>playing tripwire garbage

You must not have played ROOST or played RO2 at launch.

RO2 was broken for over a year before it was even playable. And now it is still a casual version of what ROOST was, but at least it is playable.

I really hope for a good, realistic ww2 game some time soon.

Not making a new thread for this so:
How does Verdun compare with RO2? I get the impression that multiplayer gameplay is similar, just less fluid

>>30785116
yeah source wasnt as good as the original

>>30782404
>s fought in trenches!!! It's what the majority of students in the world are taught anyways so they could have at least made some massive (golmud railway and firestorm size) trench maps. Instead we're stuck with this The St. Quentin Scar (and a few other similar looking maps) bullshit with a small tidbit of trenches in the fucking corner of the map.

Just play verdun on max settings you massive faggot and leave the new battlefield game for the 13 year olds and Normies with IQ under 90

>>30785448
battlefield games can still be fun. They arent going for a realistic game. Look at battlefield 1942. It was pretty much the same. Germans using brittish weapons, a bunch of non-standard weapons.

At least the shooting mechanics have a decently fun representation of bullet drop and lead time, which Red Orchestra 2 doesnt even have.

>>30782404
Slight irony that a real trench warfare map would be no fun to play at all.

Literally 24/7 campers, and fags rushing your base in the cover of night throwing grenades and smashing your head in with nail-covered baseball bats.

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>>30782168
>most of those weapons were only prototypes that were never used or extremely limited in numbers

>>30785487
>didn't play The Trenches

It was a fantastic HL1 mod that did ww1 trench warfare in a realistic(ish) and fun way.

>>30785423
In terms of difficulty it's similar but it's less polished.

Get it on steam, try it, refund it if you don't like it, but then again it's one of those games that to some might seem bad at first but you realise it's great after playing it for a bit

>>30782517
The .38 snub is hilariously terrible in Hardline.As in it takes 3 out of your 5 shots to kill at point blank, has so much spread it's possible to hit 5 different people with your 5 shots, has basically no attachments, takes like 8 shots to kill at 20 meters and has a rather long reload.

>>30782311
If this turns into a joke like hardline did I hope they add an obrez

>>30783900
>racists will deny this

>>30785470
Why does RO2 have adjustable sights if it does not have bullet drop?

>>30784207
this game run like shit for me and I have horrendous screen tear, no matter what settings I put it on it runs like shit, and for some reason high settings run better than low settings.

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>>30785528
>bullet drop
>at a maximum of 200m

>>30785604
Then why do the sights go out to 2000m you can keep going you know just because the maps are tiny does not mean you need to over exaggerate the bullet drop to make it noticeable.

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>>30785528
>no bullet drop

>>30785556
When did you last play it?
I remember they released a bunch of optimization patches

>>30785721
yes that what>>30785470 is implying.

>>30782552
Shock Paddles.

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>>30782512

>>30783928
So gas was not deadly?

>>30785833
Vastly less effective then HE in terms of shells fired to casualties produced. Only caused ~8% of British losses iirc.

>>30782617
Joan of arc would be trans

>>30782617
>Making a strong female character male
Lolno people would get butthurt as fuck, lesbian can be considered (but would still be retarded)

>>30785877
No, heavens no. They could not do that to a historical woman. Genghis khan however would totally be trans.

>>30782822
doing the same thing and expecting different results...

>>30782150
other than weird bayonet mechanics and some balance issues, gameplay isn't bad. I would personally prefer more classes with stricter specialisation, but it is jut my preference.

But, then they have to make it a revisionist piece of shit.
>>30784081
why this is bad, if the players are choosing it?
>>30783998
>>30784129
it's always the same with SJWs. Rather than use google and find some actual diversity, they will always go for fake one. Because they don't care about diversity, they care about good scores on Cucktaku.

>>30785896
you don't understand progressive stack my friend.
trans to woman is more underprivileged than trans to man

>>30782404
This nigger gets it. I don't understand the hype about this game and the fact that "famous" youtubers are so excited for it.

It's a game set in WW1 with basically all the WW1 taken out, it's battlefield 4.75 with the classes changed up and removal of assault rifles.

I'm biased because I wanted a 2142 kind of game though and I'm a sucker for that near future shit (no COD jump and slide kiddy simulator thank you).

It's a shame because this could have been a fun WW1 game with more authentic feel to it. All the automatic firearms and shit should have been restricted to a limited amount of players.

M-maybe Day of Infamy will be good...

>paying money for what is a effectively an Insurgency workshop mod

Sheeeeit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Hcy8pnhxE

Good video comparing Battlefield to COD, it btfo cod

>>30783900
into the trash it goes

>>30785487
>Literally 24/7 campers, and fags rushing your base in the cover of night throwing grenades and smashing your head in with nail-covered baseball bats.
Left for Dead is hell of a fun to play. Pro tip: you can setup similar zerg rush type of gameplay by rules for WWI game and neither side would feel deprived of fun even if one side dies like flies from machingun fire.

>>30783122
yeah thats why 1942, 2042 and especially BF2 are the only BATTLEFIELDS.

>>30785984
>All the automatic firearms and shit should have been restricted to a limited amount of players.
It is no fun approach to deny gear to players. Better lock these weapons behind time+score wall, like titans in titanfall. Everyone gets them, and at the same time everyone play most of the time with bolt action or club.

>>30782991
I did some of the old sound design for them. Everyone in the community loved the sounds and then they randomly replaced them with fucking popgun sounds

>>30782822
>870 with full choke
>Buck loaded up
>People barely have a chance to see whats going on before they get filled with 00

>>30786176
You forgot to put the biggest magnification scope available s they what the hell out and call you a cheater for sniping with buckshot

>>30786234
I save slugs for the sniping, but I still do get a fair amount of people calling me a hacker.

>>30785833
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31042472

>mfw thinking about that mad dosh I'd make if I could sell WW1 milsup triple price to clueless newfriends

Korea BF when ?

>>30786348
Fuck me. Now I want a cold war (think fictional NATO vs Reds scenario) battlefield game.

>>30786360
This, a thousand times this.

> Most aesthetic guns of all time (G3A3, CAR-15, AK-74, G36K, AUG A1, G11)
> Technology is not too good as to be OP, no APS or stupid bullshit
> Dread, ennui and a crushing sense of hopelessness are par for the course
> Nostalgia
> Nukes
> Classic war machines

>>30786390
Closest I have now is project reality standalone.

>>30782150

It's just regular same-old Battlefield with a skin pack. Nothing to get excited about.

>>30785528
Idk. Because tripwire got lazy near the end and made every weapon hitscan to make hit detection better. Originally the game was suppose to have bullet drop like the original Red orchestra

This is the stupidest shit I've ever seen.

It's downright malicious to distort history this much especially for a retarded audience that knows so little about WW1 in the first place.

that is not the complete list anyway
we are missing carcanos and other shit

>>30783122
>playing anything except TDM

Really a waste of time because they can't design a Conquest map for shit now.

>>30785509

I don't play Hardline, but holy shit. That is very bad.

>>30782150
All my problems with this game will disappear if only they just made a game mode or something where the only weapons are historically accurate bolt-action rifles and slow-firing weapons. The game looks good either way, but I can't help it but think that the game would just be wasted potential and a reskin of other Battlefield games without a mode like this.

No bolt actions without scopes. Game is pointless

>>30787099

Has that actually been confirmed? All the people in the gameplay sessions were using scopes, but that doesn't mean they're required.

>>30782517
The Phantom is a bow and arrow that's pretty godawful. Pretty rage inducing to get killed by.

I saw a video of some asshole quick scoping everybody. Luckily my computer is too old for this game anyway.

>>30787148

At least it works at range. The Kolibri is going to be an entirely different beast.

It's a game made by hipsters in the most liberal part of the most liberal city in one of the most liberal countries in the world and it's target demographic consists of 12 year olds.
What do you expect?

>>30782653
>>No Chauchat
>Actually wanting that abomination
>The weapon that had more jams than a southern house wife's perserves pantry

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>>30782168
>no kar88

Ian said the game was fine with weird sights and prototype/post-war guns.

>not just playing Red Orchestra 2/Rising Storm
>not being hype for a superior Vietnam Rising Storm 2

Fucking
Plebs.

>>30782512
>schrodinger's nigger
>until the mask is removed he is both black and German at the same time,
>since, you can't prove he isn't black

>>30787481

because red orchestra is boring, and only liked by people who think realism makes a game fun

>>30785807
lmao

>>30787379
Chauchat jamming is a myth coming from American test models re-chambered to .308 from 8x50,5R without taking in account that .308 is stronger cartridge and on top of it - it's rimless. Feeding problems and short lifespan of several mechanical components were quite obvious consequence.

Watch Ian's video about it.

>>30787503
Thank for the info anon, I was going off of Gunny's info about it

>>30787447

As we've already discussed the list is lacking. However, I think we're all anticipating some form of major disappointment.

>>30782404
lol the funny thing is the announcer could have been amazing but it's just the TF2 female voice for fucks sake

>>30782150
Oh look, cunt has started his own thread.
Good job cunt.

>>30787588

I love you.

>>30782150
They basically made a Battlefield game in a World War I setting.

So far most of the shit I've seen are either experimental weapons or shit that saw only like 100 made simply to expand the weapons list from 3 bolt actions, a machine gun, and 2 semi-autos.

>>30785291
>only servers not 90% bots are either RS or password locked
>the few real people in them are MG whores and slavs that cant into computer
Yeah no

>>30786475
it does have bullet drop kek

>>30785528
>>30785646
There is bullet drop and there are maps that extend past 200m

>>30786475
It's not even hitscan you retard. Maybe if you play BF4 with its super over exaggerated bullet drop that looks as if you're shooting an airsoft gun, it'll feel like its hitscan.

>>30787672
Last time i played this wasn't true after at all.

>>30785528
Single player campaign has grossly over exaggerated bullet drop (8mm mauser dropping like 5 feet at 200 yards).

Multiplayer has generally tiny maps and the 2 bug ones have a max draw distance of like 300m, and while bullet drop exists its grossly understated. Basically, its irrelevant because at the ranges it could cause a miss no characters render even on max settings

>>30786307
Thanks for the article. A really interesting and educational read.

The guy I replied to seemed to imply gas was merely a nuisance, the article proves otherwise.

Blister agents do what they are meant to do, hurt people and get them out of the front. Chlorine and the other thing mentioned in the article are deadly, but you can protect yourself with a mask. Also the psychological side seems to make up for its killing power.

>>30787503
Well Finns during war of 1941-1944 hated the chauchat for its constant jamming and overall shittyness so no I don't think its a myth originating from americans. It ended up as rear guard weapon and for coastal artillery and was eventually taken from service by a poor small army facing a military superpower of its time.

>>30782168
as long as there is a lee enfield im happy, fucking love that gun dude

>>30788034

But Finns are basically mongols. It wouldn't surprise me that they weren't smart enough to operate the Chauchat.

>>30782404
i agree with some of your opinions, the ones concerning estetchics to be exact.(Officer yelling sounds baller) However I don't agree that they should change the mechanics of the game a whole bunch.
At the end of the day they still have to make a battlefield game. Not some indie title like Verdun

>>30783147
It's not the hit detection. It's the netcode

>>30787112
No, he's pulling shit out of his ass, you can use bolt actions without scopes.

>>30785363
This!!

>>30783900
and remember if you criticize this for not being an accurate portrayal of the average soldier on the western front you're an evil racist bigot

>>30786594
this

retarded children (BF's main audience now) will take this at face value and come to think that half the soldiers serving on the western front were black

>>30790124

Despite people saying this frequently, I don't think anybody gets their knowledge of wars from video games. Nobody thinks Black Ops is a legitimate representation of the Cold War, do they?

>>30790218
Probably not.
And honestly if they do it's not like they are the kinds of people who will rewrite history because of it...

>>30790218
>>30790247
O yes they do, i know people who thought the space portions of the old COD games were true, who thought that each storyline mission was mostly true and something that happened

Also the story mode in B1 is going to be surprisingly good, i cant wait to see what they do with it

>>30789793
Yeah, you got me triggered.

Now, tell me, what was the PPSh-41 copied from? Oh yeah, Suomi kp-31. Hmm, strange thing that us mongols came up with the best submachinegun of the second world war, isn't it?

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>>30782263
>French stuff is DLC
>French stuff
>DLC
>France
Fucking what

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>>30782250

>tips fydorov

>>30790498
>unbelievably heavy and unwieldy
>best submahcinegun of WWII

Not only your life, you asiatic freak.

>>30790576

on**, rather.

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>ITT: People bitching about historical accuracy in a new game in a long running franchise of games that's never been historically accurate

I mean, I don't know what you guys are expecting.

>>30791289
The problem is that DICE has gone out of their way to claim that their games are going to be more and more historically accurate and period accurate, and that this was supposed to be the most accurate one in the series.

Then this shit happens.

You can doubt all you want, but DICE are fuckers and deserve to moved to a damn glue factory.

its like ww1 meets bioshock infinite

the saddest thing about this is kids are going to think that was ww1 combat

>>30791654
>The problem is that DICE has gone out of their way to claim that their games are going to be more and more historically accurate and period accurate,
proofs
>>30791831
anyone retarded enough to take a fucking videogame as the biblical truth wouldn't have learned jack shit about WW1 anyways.

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I'm pissed off there will be no SDK

Would have loved to fight commies as post-WW1 paramilitary unit in 1919

>>30784081
Literally Feinstein

>>30782168
>Martini Henry.
one of my favorites, surprised it made the cut

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>>30782783
>He was getting an accurate 3D model done of himself
>Ian confirmed playable character

>>30793116
But Ian isn't black...

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>>30793258
as far as we know

>>30793116

Voice-over included.

"WE'RE LOSING OBJECTIVELY FRANKLY!"