Im considering a career as an LEO, and im really interested in

>>30779470
what's your middle name

If cooler uniforms is a pro you need to look for another job, and if you have to pay to put yourself through academy your SP is lacking.

>>30779568
peter

>>30779594
not so much "put myself through" but the academy is more of a boot camp and I have to live at the barracks 5 days a week so id have to budget mysef. Something about weeding out the family men who cant afford it

>>30779608
black peter?

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>>30779633
nope, sorry anon

>>30779649
white peter?

If you really want to be out in the country join the sheriff's office. They patrol unincorporated areas. And if you want to be in the woods join the conservation police (US Forestry Service, DNR, Park Police, game warden, etc.) Don't worry about the pay as much as the benefits, you'll make your money on overtime and side jobs if you need it but good insurance and retirement are golden.

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>>30779594
>not wanting a good uniform
fucking pleb, id kill for a different uniform. I have to wear tan kahkis and a dark blue polo shirt. I feel like a goddamn middle schooler

I'm Air Force Security Forces, and I'm thinking about OSI while I'm in, and U.S. Marshal when I get out.

>>30779470
Cant speak for other states but FHP is not held in high regard by real cops. Go be a real cop.

>source
Real cop.

>>30779470
Other than being a fed, it's the best work you can get as a cop. Be prepared for a tough academy though, most states have 4-6 month programs that are basically bootcamp with weekends.

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>>30779470
Current state trooper, former city cop. Its more or less what youd expect. I do prefer it much more then being in the city, getting to drive the highways all day is pretty comfy. If youre worried about being in danger then dont be a cop. the jpb is dangeorus no matter what and just becuase youre in a town or city doesnt mean back up is right around the corner. Aside from that
>no your motor vehicle laws, the carol doctrine and all that. You deal with traffic stops more then anything else
>you'll also see more car accidents the any other "crime scene", get a strong stomach and be ready to tell a lot of parents their kid just got scarped off the asphalt
>get comfortable cushions for your cruiser, you'll be in it a lot
>bring toilet paper with you, I am not more comfortable shitting in the woods then anywhere else
If I could do it again id be a trooper first rather then a city cop, but im glad I did the city part at the same time. It just sucks having to go back to an academy and start over

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>>30779470
>state trooper
Enjoying writing the tickets for the majority of your shift and then doing reports on fatal traffic accidents, and writing more tickets. I live in Florida and everyone hates the FHP, including city/county LEO's. Not trying to shit on you, anon. I'm in the process with Chicago Police and another big metro and it's a pain so make sure you want it before you get started. Also what this anon said >>30779709

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>>30779709
>>30779724
well, which is it then?

Ive always wondered, do you have to be on the highway as a state trooper at some point in your career, or is that a special unit of the whole state police

>>30779470
So, whos got the best duty weapon?

Alabama Glock 22/23 (.40 S&W)
Alaska Glock 22/23 (.40 S&W)
Arizona Sig P226 (.40 S&W)
Arkansas Glock 21SF (State Police), Glock 22 (S.P. Highway Patrol) (.45 ACP, .40 S&W)
California S&W 4006TSW (.40 S&W)
Colorado S&W M&P (.40 S&W)
Connecticut Sig P226/P229 (.40 S&W)
Delaware Sig P229 (.357Sig)
Florida Glock 37 (.45 GAP)
Georgia Glock 37 (.45 GAP)
Hawaii (State Sheriff's Office, Honolulu) S&W M&P (9mm)
Idaho Glock 21 (.45 ACP) or Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Illinois Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Indiana Glock 17 (9mm)
Iowa S&W M&P (.40 S&W)
Kansas Glock 21 (.45 ACP)
Kentucky Glock 35 (.40 S&W)...........Transitioning to Gen 4 G35
Lousiana Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Maine HK USP (.45 ACP)
Maryland Beretta Px4 (.40 S&W)
Massachusetts S&W M&P (.45 ACP)
Michigan Sig P226 (.40 S&W)
Minnesota Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Mississippi Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Missouri Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Montana Sig P229 (.357Sig)
Nebraska Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Nevada Sig P229 (.40 S&W)
New Hampshire S&W M&P (.45 ACP)
New Jersey Sig 228 (9mm)
New Mexico S&W M&P (.357 Sig).........The latest word is that NM has gone back to .40 for cost reasons
New York Glock 37 (.45 GAP)
North Carolina S&W M&P(.357Sig)
North Dakota Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Ohio Sig P229/P226 (.40 S&W)
Oklahoma Sig P226R (.357Sig)
Oregon S&W M&P (.40 S&W)
Pennsylvania Glock 37 (.45 GAP)
Rhode Island Sig P229 (.357Sig)
South Carolina Glock 37 (.45 GAP)
South Dakota Sig P229 (.357 Sig)
Tennessee Glock 31 (.357Sig)
Texas Sig P229/P226 (.357Sig)
Utah Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Vermont S&W M&P (.40 S&W)
Virginia Sig P229RDAK (.357Sig)
Washington S&W M&P (.40 S&W)
West Virginia S&W 4566TSW (.45 ACP)
Wisconsin Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Wyoming S&W M&P (.40 S&W)

>>30779805
source

>>30779805
Main, from the looks of it. USP, memes aside, is very nice

>>30779875
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/defensive-carry-guns/135723-just-fwiw-what-state-troopers-carry.html75

>>30779608
Is your first name Richard?
Can you grow/do you have a copstache?
Do you look good in aviators?
How many times can you say meow to someone?

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>>30779805
all those .40s

and people tell me its a "dying cartridge"

>>30779901
no
I have bear atm, ill have to shave it off which im not happy about
doesnt everyone
24

>>30779895
February 7th, 2012 01:06 PM

not very up to date

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>>30779805
Nj is a fucking sig p228? for an anti gun commie shit hole they give their cops some good guns
>this is the same place that gave the HK p7s as a standard issue

>>30779934
most recent I could find, its not like there have been massive changes to all of them as of late

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>>30779470
>>30779681
im right there you with guys. I might have a chance to be an LEO in my hometown which is pretty quiet (some shit happnens here but its a small town) Ive been going back and forth over it for a while. On the one jand it would be a pretty easy job and I have a good chance of getting in. On the other I want out of this place and am afraid ill never leave. Il probably end up taking it, but so help me if I wake up one day and suddenly be 50 and never did leave im jumping in front of a truck

is it easy to be a cop coming out of HS in ontario? Should I go to those police college programs or just wait a few years with job experience and go for the academy

>>30779470

Where are you trying to be a state trooper? On the west coast from California to Washington, (can't speak for alaska) the state law enforcement agencies pay shit. Staters make $50-80,000, city and county cops make $75-200,000 as their career progresses and with OT if they want it.

Same goes for the fire service which I know more about being a firefighter (except its even worse) Calfire was paying their guys minimum wage on a fire where I was making $60 an hour to do the same job.

Also what backwater state do you live in where academy is on your dime?

I went to a state fire academy at the same time a few buddies of mine went to regional and local police academies. None of us had to pay. Infact we were paid our salary and given free food/lodging and an allowance for incidentals at all of our academies.

Best 3 months of my life... After tax I had $5500 in my bank account every month and didn't spend a cent with exception of $1000 for mortgage and insurance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_wLVCLPx0M

>>30779901
Holy shit, my dad's name is richard and meets all of said requirements, except he only says meow to the cat

>>30779805
>>30779953

Dad had a p7 once, now has a fuddyfive glock

>>30779758
>I live in Florida and everyone hates the FHP

This. FHP are fucking dicks. Every encounter I've had with them is shit no matter how polite I am. Guess it doesn't help I ride a bright green CBR and have a tendency to speed.

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>>30779709
NY Cop here. Troopers here get the same training to start out as we do, DCJS Standards (except NYC, they have standards which are Much lower). Then Troopers never get much training afer that. My Agency has sent me to 60 or so schools over the years. NYS Troopers (New) have this weird Unjustified Attitude that they are somehow better than local Police. That may be true somewhere, but not around here... It is so weird to get attitude from a Trooper with his serving since Yesterday pin, who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
They make Stupid money though. Almost $100,000 with overtime. WTF. Don't answer the 911 pulls, drive 30 mph to back us up and make that much $....

>>30779470
>a state trooper
drive up and down the interstate and give out speeding tickets all day with the occasional 'mop the occupants up with a sponge' accident.

BO ring

Do you seriously just want to be the jackass in a neat uniform that just pulls over average people for going 5 mph over the speed limit?

>>30779758
Can't be that bad...

>>30779997
You'll leave some day

>>30782051
Why would state troopers feel better than local police???

>>30779805
West Virginia, duh. Love me some third gen Smiths.

>>30779470
>cooler uniforms
I remember when I was a faggot too OP. Now I'm uniform exempt because wearing all that shit is fucking dumb.

State police leaders are appointed by the governor, sheriffs are elected. Be a deputy. Here in NY the staties are the enemy and all the sheriffs are out against the SAFE act and the governor.

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OP you have to ask yourself the following questions.
1) do I want to do actual police work
2) do I want to hand out tickets and work wrecks.

If you answered yes to number 1. Make sure you find a state which isn't primarily highway patrol.
If you answered yes to 2. Doesn't really matter.

I'm a city cop and sometimes envy the troopers because they get the gnarly wrecks and I enjoy accident reconstruction. But at the same time, I do real police work. Troopers *in my state* would be lost on domestics and other none traffic related crimes. We had a trooper call us to come deal with a shoplifter once.

Also, they're all uptight cunts because their Academy is so strict. The state Academy for regular police and Rangers is 12 weeks. For Troopers it's 6 months. I have no idea what the hell they teach them. I'm sure the last 3 are focused solely on making sure they never smile again.

My advice is get in anywhere you can, even if it's city. Get a couple years of experience and move on to what you know you want to do.

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>>30779470
>Wants to be a state LEO inna woods
By your picture, am I to understand that you're in Kentucky, OP? Your state has some beautiful country.

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>>30784004
Alternatively

>>30779997
Do you want to carry anywhere all the time and fuck you Jersey I'm carrying jhps?
Then do it and get your time in so you can retire and qualify under LEOSA.

Local LEO is a pretty boss job.

>>30782051
I don't know where in NY you are, but around here the Troopers go in for about as many 911 calls as the Deputies. Sometimes more.

>>30779805
The PA state trooper is incorrect. They switched to Sig P227s

>>30779470
You would not have to pay for trooper school

>>30779672
That's what my state academy class wore. At least it's more comfortable than our unis, same style since the 70s

>>30779470
Blacks, liberals, and politicians will hate you the same no matter what shade of blue you wear. Go for it, nonetheless. Challenge yourself.

>>30779771
I'd say it varies state by state. Troopers have my respect but they can be cocky. I saw more in my first year as a city cop than most troopers will in 5 , so how are they better than me?

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I've done hallucinogens before.

I'd say I'm barred from any sort of police work.

I'm going to college for 2 years for criminal justice. I got in trouble when I was 10 or 11, can't remember. I stole some beef jerky from a convenience store, but since then I've been a good boy and dindu nuttin. I think I got a ticket for no stopping but that's like 4 years ago. Am I disqualified?

>>30780006
Get life and job experience. Also do something to further your education and show that you want to improve yourself. Start volunteering for things to help your community.

Not going to ID my state but I am a state level LEO in an investigative agency in the south. I work with HP often.

It is not very hard to get hired, easier than many PDs and SOs.

The training is very rigorous and has a much larger physical training and firearms component. Washout rate is very high in my state. There are continuing fitness requirements- no fat troopers here unless they are bearmode.

It is probably one of the best ways to get in "off the street" and stepped raises are better than most other agencies and local departments.

It is very easy to lateral elsewhere if need be.

You will however sometimes be a ticket machine, which is why I never went that route. I actually started with my state's probation agency to get in and applied to where I am now. I don't mind a good old cuff and stuff for a drunk or belligerent dude, but I have never had to write a ticket for some piddly ass shit and never wanted to.

Also, state troopers pull mad tail.

Be in good shape, dress and present sharply, answer the poly honestly. I you don't get it your first time, and many don't, try again. Try other states. Make sure your state is a good one. I hear Florida sucks to be a trooper in. Some states exclusively deal with roads and traffic stuff outside of the occasional joint action (NC comes to mind) and some are full service (VA). Pick one with a good pension.

>>30783920
It's possible they've seen so many traffic related deaths they take their job too seriously, as such they lose their sense of humor and feel like they're the last line of defense against traffic related infractions.

>>30782146
... You mean a town cop?

Always wanted to be an NYS trooper, but

1. Didn't want to move across the state to Albany for academy.
2. I'm way too out of shape to meet the reqs.
3. Met a trooper and realized it's not all that great.

Good pay, benefits and dat Stetson tho

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>>30787445

>>30787382
>town cop
>neat uniform
It's cute the way you think we have budgets.

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Dat Rhode Island uniform do

>>30787483
mounties gone bad?

>>30787038
>Sheriff's Deputy Here
>State Patrol in my state is the lowest paid LEO of all the departments.
>Superiority complex sometimes comes from being relegated to a "limited Peace officer" as opposed to a General peace officer in the state. No legal difference except for Jurisdiction and some inter state departmental overreach.

>State Patrol = ALOT of Traffic Management/Stops.


No you are not Disqualified but you may not receive a competitive ranking as someone who has a spotless record. Although Bad Driving records, Any significant amount of misdemeanor arrests will be brought up. Expect to have your life and some close friends turned upside down during screening.

>>30787299
>continuing fitness requirements- are bearmode
Stay in shape. If you have higher marks on your PAT score it can make up for other "non competitive" scores.

>>30787140
>state troopers pull mad tail.
Not in this state....
But the Badge does attract a certain type of anon at times.

Something to look into is how your supported by your local officers Guild/Union. If they don't get good opinions from the officers go to a different force.

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>>30779805
Texas, although I hear they're replacing the 226 in .357 sig with the 320 in 9mm

>>30787038
Kek another fell for the CJ meme
>>30787938
Dem badge bunnies. I saw a disturbingly high number of hot girls when I was taking an exam for a city, have a feeling many were there to get some and a paycheck. I don't know too many women that wanna be cops in Chicago yet alone attractive ones.

>>30788007
Texas is god tier

State troopers usually make PISS poor pay so idk what state patrol you are looking at. texas DPS does pretty good though

>>30779758
>>30781939
>I live in Florida and everyone hates the FHP, including city/county LEO's.

I can attest to this. FHP are assholes.

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>>30788028
>CJ meme
Take a few Intro to Law Courses and look at a EMT basic Cert for REALLY good entry points.

>>30788028
>Dem badge bunnies
They exist just like they do for the Military.

Insert navy wife with box of Tide on her porch.

>>30779470
>Better pay (Wrong they make shit usually unless its like Texas DPS)
>much cooler uniforms (some others look like mountee retards)
>Out in the woods (Nah you will be on the highway almost every single shift)
>Means I wont deal with city youths (So now you are pulling over narcotic movers with your closest backup being 5-10 min away and the rest of the time you are doing speed traps)
>better training (Nigga wtf are you talking about)
>better pay (wrong again)
>Better oppurtunities for advancement (lmao wtf are you on?)

HAHAHHAHAHHA did you even research anything?

>>30788028
Doesn't seem like a meme to me to have more qualifications into hiring process

>>30788114
>have more qualifications
having the RIGHT qualifications helps you in the hiring process but only in the selection process. Post Selection you may never use that knowledge again as the laws will change over time......

>>30788172
Idk CJ is an okay degree as long as its a BA thats what they realy want. I have 129 hours toward a STEM degree and the cops eat that shit up.

>>30788059
Kek I'm a minority with language skill and I'm finishing my degree in something else. Everyone and their brother has or is getting a CJ degree and every cop on the job I've spoken to where I'm applying laughed about them. I would like to take an EMT class just to take it though.
>>30788114
maybe in a smaller dept. The cities I applied to could give two shits and what you need to know they teach you hence the academy

>>30788186
>Im a minority
>Gib me dat position
>gib

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>>30788198
I'll use whatever benefit I can to get on the job while people like you side on the side lines crying about muh white oppression and how it's unfair. It's fucked up but as competitive as it is idgaf.

>>30779709
This. All the city cops and sheriffs I known say FHP was garbage. Especially the pay.

>>30788186
>academy
The purpose of the Academy is to wipe away your way of doing things and then retrain you to the legal requirements/processes of the state so as to maintain the BOOK. There is a reason there is so much stigma regarding "by the book" in most department. Normally Police don't like to have there busts ruled over because they didn't do things right. It makes you look like a schmuck to your partners. This is one of the reasons that police work is simple yet Dangerous. 75% of the Job is paperwork for the legal system. You will not be living a life like SVU or Bosch. The streets willl force you to think about things that you didn't think about before but you can't just go off and beat someone because they pissed you off.

The scene in end of watch where the Hispanic officer takes off his belt and gets down and dirty with the street crew for creds would be grounds for immediate termination if it got back to command and was confirmed. IA would have a field day with it. plus you then have all you other officers being retrained over a stupid mistake.

There is alot of mental judo in the job when it comes to diffusion of situations. Hope you can Learn to remove emotion from your reactions.

>>30788227
>city cops and sheriffs I know

State Patrol in my state = Easiest way into the LEO profession. Also seen as Mall Ninja's/Cops of the LEO world.

>>30788301
What are you going on about? You're upset because I don't want to take some CJ classes at the local community college before I go to the academy? what. Sorry but I think I'll wait till whatever city I'm working in tells me how they want it done. They've been teaching people to be police for a while.
>You will not be living a life like SVU or Bosch
I have no clue what that is
>The scene in end of watch where the Hispanic officer takes off his belt and gets down and dirty with the street crew for creds would be grounds for immediate termination if it got back to command and was confirmed. IA would have a field day with it. plus you then have all you other officers being retrained over a stupid mistake.
Ok? and? who's talking about taking off your shit and fighting some Mexican(s)?
>Hope you can Learn to remove emotion from your reactions
Appreciate it, hope you can learn some reading comprehension.

>>30779615
What the fuck? Where do you live? Every state academy I've heard of pays you starting the first day. Why would they want to weed out family men aka well adjusted and responsible (in general).

NYPD here. Here is my take on joining the NYPD.
>better pay (depending) - lol. Wait 5.5 years
>much cooler uniforms- depends on what you like.
>out in the country/woods not so much in the city- lol
>which means I wont have to deal with city youths as often (among other things). LOL
>better training- eh
>better pay- lol
>better opurtunies for advancement and transfering around my state
but. - NYPD you need 3 years to take Sgt test and 5 years to get a pointed if selected. After capt ithe is who you know as it is by apt.
>much harder to get accepted- death to the pysch unit!
>training takes a lot longer and is more of a boot camp Id have to pay for. HAHAHAHHAHA
>backup could be 20 minutes away while I get into deep shit on the highway. Ok???? Learn how to handle yourself you little faggot.

>>30788396
>NYPD here
Whats your union like over there?

>>30788466
Not bad. They are constantly fighting the Mayor DeBlasio. He hates cops and tries to shafts us in every

>>30788525
....contract. anything in particular you want to know about the union?

>>30788396
Hey why is it that you guys don't always swipe me through when I see you in plain clothes and fucking know you have your NYPD metric card? You really think I'm not gonna hop that turn stile?

>>30788396
I miss those old school baby blue postal worker uniforms. Also good luck getting promoted there unless you have family or a good rabbi

>>30788565
Maybe because the rest of those people do. You know who i'm talking about, anon.

>>30788565
Go ahead and hop the turnstile you little bitch and see what happens. If the cop is feeling frisky he can arrest your bitch ass for Theft of Service instead of a TAB summons.

>>30788584
The cadets wear the light blues now.

>>30788372
Give that same lip to your CO/FTO and see what happens...Boots don't get slack during probationary qualifications.

>>30779470
It's shit work with shit pay. There's a reason 50% of hires quit LE within the first 5 years.

You're not getting hired on at state level without experience, and a lot of it. I know a guy who's trying to do that, he's 38 now.

>>30779758
yep and if you live in a unincorporated area fhp will take there time and make you wait 2 hours before they show up to document even the smallest accident and they are either complete dicks or major tools

>>30780059
East Coat
MA actually, which yeah I know Liberal commie hellhole but ive got family here and ive met some pretty bro teir gun lovers, including cops. Probably because im out of the city

>>30789015
MA isn't looking so good ATM

>>30788584
But the set up is so easy to spot.

>>30788626
Oooh just you want till I get back to NYC I hopped it everyday for half a year. Especially the one on 125th, 110 and the A train near masjid taqwa. You think I'm scared of a little community service?! That shit doesn't even go on my record you're just mad your fatass can't hop a turnstile. Go choke on a bag of dragon dicks you bootlicking brown nosing blue badge "I wanna be a real cop" little rent a cop bitch.

>>30788751
Sup Leo bro.

>>30784776
I was asked what drugs/drinking ive done in the past
>weed (obviosuly)
>shrooms
>LSD
>ecstasy
>acid
>several different kinds of mixed drinking games
the Sgt. chuckled, asked if I have done anything recently which I hadnt (for like 5 years), we talked for a bit and he said so long as I hadnt lied and been doing that shit recently Id be ok. This was a county police spot though

>>30787299
what about detective/investigation units, how are they?
where do your jurisdictions start/end when it comes to things like that? Do they get more or less detective work?

>>30788380
>>30789094
yeah, we're not as good as some other states but home is home, and we're one of the states that treats troopers in a higher regard
And our uniforms look great when youre invading poland

>>30779470
KY state police gave me a ticket for 7 over. Fuck.

>>30789140
>LSD
>acid

Pick one dumbfuck

>>30789140
>LSD
>acid

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>>30787483

New Jersey state police uniform is best.
But the downside is you have to live in New Jersey.

>HAIL OBAMA!

>>30788751
I'm dutifully taking notes. Thanks, anon for the tip.
>But the set up is so easy to spot.
And what does that say about them then when they get arrested for jumping it when it's so easy to spot.
>125th
Christ what a shithole that area was. Thank god the rich white kids with their mom and dads Columbia money started moving into the neighborhood.

This literally has FUCKING nothing to do with weapons get off my board welfare where shitposter

>>30789641
>Jobs where you carry weapons
>Not weapons related