Is the SCAR considered to be the successor of the FAL or

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Both.

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>>30757208
This.

It combines the light weight and some of the modularity with the basic piston mechanism of older battle rifles.

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>>30756942
>Is the SCAR considered to be the successor of the FAL
Only the SCAR-H

>or the AR platform
There has never been a successor for the AR.

>>30757377
>There has never been a successor for the AR.
really? Tell me why SEAL continues to replenish their SCAR L inventory to replace M4 SOPMOD even after SCAR L's divestment from the SOCOM general inventory?

>>30759445
>Tell me why SEAL continues to replenish their SCAR L inventory
I'm gonna need a source for that.

>not chambered in 6.5/260
>successor of anything

not yet

>>30759727
THIS. 120 gr pushing 2900 makes the world go round.

>>30756942
Neither, it is the successor to the FNC. The FNC is a Kalashnikov-like action set within a tubular upper receiver with a swing down lower and a slide on buttstock. The SCAR converts the FNC's long stroke gas system to a short stroke gas system and changes out the tubular receiver from stamped steel to extruded aluminium and the lower from milled aluminium to polymer, and the buttstock is now a mostly polymer piece.

>>30757377
>There has never been a successor for the AR.
AR-18
>>30756942
SCAR is the successor to the AR-18, bcg is a straight up clone, just changed it from short stroke to long stroke.
FAL is a tilting block like an SKS

>>30756942
And it comes with ugg boots! So it's not only practical, but fashionable!

>>30763941
>AR-18
>successor

AR-18 was 15's poor brother marketed towards countries too poor to afford the 15, which was fairly expensive to set up the manufacturing base for.
It has pretty much flopped, too, until designers started revisiting the carrier group design in the 90's and building their own rifles around it.

>>30763159
>The SCAR converts the FNC's long stroke gas system to a short stroke gas system and changes out the tubular receiver from stamped steel to extruded aluminium and the lower from milled aluminium to polymer

So in other words it's absolutely nothing like the FNC, you mong.
While coincidentally sharing a striking resemblance to the AR-18 action, weird, huh?

>>30763995
Try 70's and 80's. Rifles borrowing either part of the bcg design and or from the piston were being designed not long after the ar-18 was on the market. Shit the Sa80 base design was taken from the ar-18 when they saw it with the first iterations just being ar-18 bullpups

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>>30763952
at least it doesn't come with crocs friendo

>every time a scar mentioned its pic related every.time.

>>30764101
My only hatred is the high demand/low supply and inflated cost at the moment. I'll just keep waiting because I see people asking above retail for used SCARs.

>>30757208
Lordy there's about fifteen Grand laying on the floor. Congrats buddy those beautiful pieces.

>>30764101
Someone needs to shop crocs on a SCAR for a prototype model that didn't gain traction.

>>30756942
>scar17
yes
>scar16
why does this even exist

>>30764101
>at least it doesn't come with crocs friendo
That's the high speed low drag version with holes in the stock to reduce weight.

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>>30764305
The SCAR 16 combines the best aspects of the AR-15 and the AK.
And in some (small) ways, improves them.
Less recoil than an AR.
Ergonomics that are slightly better than an AR.
Manual of arms that uses some AR features, some AK features, and gives you the option to change them, like the charging handle.
Short stroke piston driven which increases reliability.
Long heavy bolt carrier which reduces recoil.

People who say "OMG scar 16 is so pointless, but the 17 is revolutionary!" are retards. There's 80% parts interchangability. It's like shitting on the Glock 19, but loving the design of the Glock 23.

>>30766661
>SCAR 16
>Less recoil than an AR

Stopped reading right there.

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>>30766680
Hahaha I was about to say exactly this.

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>>30766680
I don't think you realize the magic behind the stock FN muzzle brake.

The only person that feels recoil from a SCAR is everyone but the guy shooting it.

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>>30764168
Why crocs?

>>30766661
>Short stroke piston driven which increases reliability
Wrong.
>Less recoil than an AR
Wrong.
>Ergonomics that are slightly better than an AR
Subjective.
>Long heavy bolt carrier which reduces recoil
Corre...wrong.

>>30756942
Yes.

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>>30766680
>>30766692
I own a 16s and I've shot many AR-15s.
It's noticeable.
I understand if you have no idea about what you're talking about, it would be easy to say it doesn't.
The break, and the very heavy bolt carrier make a huge difference.
>>30766714
Yea? Post a pic of your 16s.
Or feel free to shut the fuck up.

>>30766701
>I don't think you realize the magic behind the stock FN muzzle brake.

I had one on my AR, dummy.

The muzzle brake is not an integral part of the weapon.
If you put the FSC556 on both, the SCAR will recoil worse.

>>30766730
>very heavy bolt carrier
>this somehow translates into less recoil

Drink bleach.

>>30766730
>Yea? Post a pic of your 16s.
What? Post a pic of yours.

>>30766730
>I own a 16s and I've shot many AR-15s.
How scientific....

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>>30766730
>heavier recoiling mass
>less felt recoil

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>>30766745
>t-the scar will recoil worse!!!!
and what causes you to believe that bullshit? AR-15 magic?

>heavier bolt carrier doesn't translate to less recoil!!!!
holy shit... Do you even know what's going on inside the buffer tube of your AR?

Fucking retard...

The standard AR bolt isn't very robust. Running an LMT bolt or whole KAC upper group relieves this.

The standard AR is unadjustable for suppressed use, which leads to increased wear. The noveske switchblock takes care of this

The standard AR doesn't have a stock that folds, useful for storage or going into a vehicle. The law folding adapter takes care of this.

The stock AR doesn't have ambidextrous selectors or mag releases. Aftermarket selectors exist, aftermarket ambi lowers exist.


By the time youve gotten these extra features, why not just get a SCAR 16?

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>>30766745
>what is recoil impulse
>>30766793
It absorbs the force of the piston...
>>30766761
>>30766773
Like I said, it's noticeable.

Excuse the poor quality.

>>30766730
>post a pic of your scar
what does that prove? if we're going off of this random threshold of experience that's equal to knowledge in your world, everyone else could just demand that you post a pic of your ar-15.

>>30766819
Where's your AR buddy? I've shot a 16s before too and there is certainly no reduction in felt recoil from the platform.

>>30766793
Actually yes.
Do you understand physics?

>>30766841
I don't own an AR-15. I own a SCAR-16s.
And my three friends, who are AR owners, shot my SCAR and after the first time they all made comments and agreed that there was a difference.
It your dick measuring competition so important to you that you have to attack anyone who makes a valid point because you personally don't know it to be true?
>>30766861
He doesn't visit 4chan.

>>30766865
>>30766819

Heavier gun = less felt recoil, it takes more force to get it moving.
Heavier RECOILING MASS = more felt recoil, it imparts the force on your dumb ass shoulder when it reaches the rearmost position, no way around it.

Now kys and/or go back to your high school physics class.

>>30766892
Technically, two are AR owners. The other is the daughter of an AR owner.

>>30766903
>he doesn't know that the bolt carrier is part of the gun

>>30766730
>>30766661
>Less recoil
I have personally fired thousands of rounds through all types of AR15s and the SCAR to test magazines. The recoil is about the same, but slightly less in mid to rifle length ARs. Of course, muzzle devices make a difference.

>>30757208
The twin colts

>>30766928
Well, the ARs all had A2 birdcages, and my SCAR has the PWS.

>>30766903
So what if the bcg hit the rear of its travel after the recoil of the round hit your shoulder?

>>30756942

>7.5 lb unloaded rifle that costs 3k
>"successor of AR

laughingsluts.jpeg

dont get me wrong the SCAR is a fine gun, but it is not a successor of the AR platform, nor does it have enough selling points to ever become its successor in the eyes of the DoD.

I also dont know if they'll ever trust grunts to be able to work with a piston system. infantry are pretty retarded.

>>30766918

Yes, the carrier and the piston are both parts of the gun that move backward and deliver the major portion of the actual recoil.
Why do you think straight blowback SMGs recoil harsher than roller-delayed ones in the same caliber? Because the mass that actually moves inside the gun is much lighter.
Or you could just go and shoot an AR with a lightweight BCG and the standard one and tell me what the difference was.

>>30766970
>So what if the bcg hit the rear of its travel

Wow, I guess nothing, I guess the kinetic energy of that rapidly moving chunk of steel just up and disappears into thin air!
And you have the gall to talk to me about physics, lel.

>>30766977
>infantry are pretty retarded.

dubs don't lie

>>30766997
Breaking up the recoiling mass into two segments will lower the peak felt recoil dramatically. Put down the kool-aid man.

>>30766819
Nice gun

>>30766997
Pls respond

>>30756942
It should be

Someone post the faux Project Agile build, the one with the A1 buttstock and bayonet.