http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world- news/china-releases-foot

>>30753461

>china
>competent propaganda

Pick one.

>>30753461
Did they seriously use part of LMs videos of their Multiple Kill Vehicle for their footage?

>>30753495
Yes anon, yes they did.

Daily reminder that China will be the worlds sole superpower by 2050.

>>30753461
Almost as good as that Russian tank drone thing. You know the one

>>30753461
>chinese topgun
link? i want some laughs

>>30753901
Hahahaha.

Nope.

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>>30753461
>haha the newest Chinese piece of propaganda, fully spliced with CGI and a few pictures of a rocket launch. Is this funnier then the Chinese topgun ripoff?

Yeah, it is CGI, but burgers dont understand Chinese, so they dont know the context.

They used parts of LM's SM-3 GCI ads to illustrate 'foreign ABM efforts' to give legitimation to their own ABM tests. The CGI explosions that appear to look like they were taken in thermal are also CGI illustrations shown in the command centers.

The entire report isnt actually about the ABM tests of 2010 and 2013, but about some socialist model-worker/model-soldier who worked hard for China's ABM-development and now receives some medals from the political commissar. The real footages of the ABM tests are, as per usual secrecy, shown minimally.

The only real mentioning of the word "mid-course anti ballistic missile interception test" is spoken by the broadcaster and in the subtitle.

pic: the socialist 'hero worker' who did a lot for the ABM tests and the subtitle in question describing what he did.

>>30754458

>damage control

>>30754473
Seriously, if you dont understand a language, you shouldnt actually comment about it.

It is not that the tests arent widely known or never happened:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Chinese_anti-ballistic_missile_test

http://thediplomat.com/2014/07/china-conducts-third-anti-missile-test/

It is just that the report wasnt about the tests per se, but about some guy who receives a medal for it.

>>30754491

And i am to take your word for it, chicom shill?

>>30754505
why dont you summon that resident ABC-Traitor into this thread to translate for you?

>>30754517
Nah, i would rather deal with you, shill.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFff2-gZ0sM

An actual video about the 2013 ABM test

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>>30754525
>>30754505
>>30754473
Just... wow. Nobody gives a shit what you do or do not believe. Go be a menace some place else.

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>>30754549
The missile is the HQ-19, a heavily upgraded HQ-9 with integrated booster and KKV warhead.

Pretty much a THAAD on sterioids, as it is also capable of mid-course interception and killing satellites in LEO, not just terminal phase missile defense like the US equivalent.

So, a SM-3, PAC-3 and THAAD in one.

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>>30754578
Model of the last stage that carries the KKV inside.

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>>30754593
Korla OTH ABM radar.

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>>30754602
And some other identified sites.

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>>30754613
Their respective radar directions.

>>30754368
>China
>5x Population of USA

At equal GDP/head the relationship will be the same as today between the USA and France.

Also, India will be a super power by 2030.

>>30754578
So a terminal, mid course, and ASAT weapon in one missle?

Nope lol.

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>>30754635
>India
>super power

Hehe. This guy is an endless source of comedy gold. Tell me some more funny jokes.

>>30754635
>At equal GDP/head

Wew laddy, they got a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNG way to go.

This also assumes the US stagnates.

>>30754628
>>30754613

The two up north are looking at Russia, there's also one directed at Taiwan/Philippines.

The budget is 130 billion $, of course they'll have a bunch of radars, they're dirt cheap if produced locally.

>>30754602
Seems like a big ole immobile target.

>>30754645
Generally, all ABM can function as ASAT, as ballistic missiles travel the same or even lower orbits than LEO satellites.

Mid-course interceptors basically can always target LEO satellites at considerably distances as well, while THAAD-styled terminal stage interceptors can target LEO at shorter range (when a satellite passes etc.).

Fundamentally, as long as the KKV is in orbit, it can strike whatever comes within range. The THAAD's advantage is merely that it can also target missiles within atmosphere as well.

This is something that is unknown about the HQ-19

>>30754683

> as ballistic missiles

ICBMS? yes.

All the rest? LEL, no.

>Mid-course interceptors

Cannot be used in ASAT roles due to the fact that they are ballistic the moment the atmo no longer works on its control surfaces.

THAAD is all short range terminal work.

HQ-19 seems like a GBI.

>>30754517
>still no gf

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>>30754668
The USA is stagnating, the total GDP only grows because of immigrants and financial shenanigans, wage slaves have seen their wages stagnate for 40 years now.

In an openly trading environment and with scientifically run countries with low to moderate levels of corruption it's inevitable that all of them will gravitate towards a comparable economic output per person.

>>30754716
>the total GDP only grows because of immigrants and financial shenanigans

Fuck, if we are going with memes china's GDP only grows due to slave labor and economic explotiation.

>In an openly trading environment
wew lad

>and with scientifically run countries

WEW LAD

> with low to moderate levels of corruption

WWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWW LADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDAAAYYYY

>>30754716
Hahahahahahahahahahaha! This guy is a laugh riot.

>>30754704
Well, the SM-3 is a mid-course interceptor and it actually shot down a satellite. So, ASAT is definitely possible.

There is no difference in hitting a ballistic missile at mid-course cruise, a MIRV-bus or a LEO satellite.

>>30754794

SM-3 is a ABM friend. SM-6 is a mid course interceptor.

>There is no difference in hitting a ballistic missile at mid-course cruise, a MIRV-bus or a LEO satellite.

Sweet mother mary....

Well, for starters, one is exo atmo and the other is inter atmo..i mean, that little small detail there...

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>>30754716
>china
>open trading environment

>low levels of corruption
>china

I have always wanted to visit Fantasyland
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OVQq3OhOvFI

>>30754805
>SM-3 is a ABM friend. SM-6 is a mid course interceptor.

Wat

SM-6 is a long range SAM with limited terminal stage ABM capability within atmosphere (like the late block SM-2s). The SM-6 cant be used for mid-course interception because it has no kinetic kill vehicle that is required to function outside the atmosphere. It is an in-atmosphere missile only.

The SM-3 is a purebred Mid-Course ABM, as it has KKV only and cannot be used for terminal interceptions within atmosphere.

ABM is just the generic description of all missiles or weapons that can intercept ballistic missiles, no matter if mid-course or terminal stage.

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>>30754827
>SM-6 is a long range SAM with limited terminal stage ABM capability within atmosphere (like the late block SM-2s).

Your main problem is you seem to think that all ballistic missiles are created equal, or fly at the same altitude.

This is false. Pic related.

The SM-6 (like most sam's) can intercept some BM's, but not all. The SM-3 can intercept pretty much all of them, except ICBM bus's

There is a grand difference between an ICBM bus, and a SAT, and a BM flight profile.

>>30754787
>Fuck, if we are going with memes china's GDP only grows due to slave labor and economic explotiation.
Meanwhile in the real world they're importing/building more industrial robots than the rest of the world put together

>Lots of wews
Deal with it - it's run by people using math instead of voodoo, world trade is more open than it has ever been and corruption is at a moderate level (compare to South America or Russia/Ukraine).

Success breeds jealousy. Many people had problems accepting that their economy doubled since 2009 but accepted it as the new normal, you will get over this too in time.

>>30753901
Daily reminder dear that China is america's middle class.

>>30754827
With KKV, I mean EKV actually. Exoatmospheric Kill Vehicle.

SM-3 and GBI/NMD have EKV, while the SM-6 has no EKV.

The HQ-19 is mysterious, since it only says that it has a KKV (like the THAAD), but doesnt say whether it is an exo-atmospheric EKV or not. The THAAD's KKV does indeed have exo-atmospheric capabilities, but no mid-course interception capability.

The video description and narration says that the ABM test was a mid-course interception, though.

So, it is questionable whether the ABM system was indeed the HQ-19, China's THAAD-equivalent, or a different sort of missile.

>>30754868
Acceptable conclusion.

>>30754885
>Meanwhile in the real world they're importing/building more industrial robots than the rest of the world put together

Which will put their uneducated lower class out of work.

GREAT IDEA there china.

> it's run by people using math instead of voodoo

Hahahahahah, says the commie.

>world trade is more open than it has ever been

Thats why the shut down markets for a good, what, month?

>corruption is at a moderate level (

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, Toppest of keks good sir.

>Success breeds jealousy.

I agree 100%, that chip on your shoulder is not helping.

>>30754903
>So, it is questionable whether the ABM system was indeed the HQ-19, China's THAAD-equivalent, or a different sort of missile.

Seems a waste to test a GBI on a mid course. So my guess is a SM-3 equivalent.

I highly doubt its terminal capabilities. Having your cake and eating it too only goes so far.

>>30753901

China will be lucky if they survive into the 2050's with the amount of pollution and hazardous waste that they dump into their natural resources.

>>30754890
>Daily reminder dear that China is america's middle class.
Wrong. China actually exists.

>>30754578
>HQ-19
>LEO
This is highly dubious. Maybe the very low end of LEO.

>>30754912
>Muh cheap industrial work

They're moving up the chain, service economy is already over 50 %, has been for a long time.

>Commie

404, no commies found in China

>Shot down markets

?????

>Corruption

Different forms of corruption comrade, in Arabia "corruption" mans the local official can force you to fuck your daughter for his pleasure, in China you're just expected to come with a present to get your certificate of random.

>Chip on my shoulder

Am Euro, all i see is Chinese buying our old companies for the know-how, this helps us float our welfare states some years more, the inevitable end game is that they buy enough assets to become our new masters, if you dont like it write your congressman to give us free money.

>>30755040
>service economy is already over 50 %, has been for a long time.

has been for about a year. And having only 50% is not a great thing as they have seemed to hit a cap for the time being.

>404, no commies found in China

Hahahahah, funny guy, i kill you last.

>?????

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_Chinese_stock_market_turbulence

>Different forms of corruption comrade

Its all shit.

> if you dont like it write your congressman to give us free money.

Pfffft, name one reason why?

>>30754559
Only menace here is Red China.

>>30753901
more like the world's second antarctica now that the trumpenreich is confirmed

>>30753461
You do realize that "footage" could be a Mirror translation mistake, right?

>>30755289
>service economy has hit a cap

Uhh no. It is 54% right now. Services expanded 10%. Industry only 6.2%.
(If you can trust the bullshit the heavy industry SOE's say).

>Hahahahah, funny guy, i kill you last.

He means that the people in power are not communist.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_Chinese_stock_market_turbulence
In no way is this market shut down. It had been trading at higher levels than in 2014. Meanwhile Shenzen and HK (which is part of China) are at near records highs for trading volume.

>Its all shit.

Of course, but China's corruption is far less shit than many other nations. Hence the 10% average growth rate since 1976.

>Pfffft, name one reason why?
It's democracy, right?

>>30758558
Still joining the Navy?

>>30754628
so...they don't trust the Indians?

its their interpretation of "foreign media's estimation" on future radar deployment

>>30759079
>>30759079

meant to reply but derped

>>30754635
>At equal GDP/head the relationship will be the same as today between the USA and France.
Then it won't be too bad.
France and USA partnerships, especially on crucial and highly technologic fields, are way bigger than you think.