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How bad of a shot do you have to be to aim for the fat guy and

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How bad of a shot do you have to be to aim for the fat guy and miss twice and hit the black guy?
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>>30735774
The range I go to also serves as a police practice range
some of those fat fucks are so bad with their duty guns is terrifying, like I've seen children that can outshoot them.
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About as bad as your average cop.
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>>30735792
Yeah I'm trying to become a cop in a few major cities and the cops I've spoken to and see shooting, it's startling. You'd think the only time they take their gun out is to qualify with it or during the academy. I'm not trying to be Tackleberry at whatever city I go to but goddam it's good to know I can shoot a little.
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>>30735774

How far away was that dude? I read they couldn't here based therapy nigga yelling/

I also saw a vid that was unknown length away of shooter resting his rifle on the squad car.
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>This entire story
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>Try to kill autismos
>bullets warp to his nigger therapist instead

Remember, little Jamals. For each officer you kill, 40 of you will fall. And you have never won a war.
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>>30735854
The video looks to be shot at about ~100 feet, so I would guess the cop to be 50-80 feet from the fat guy
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probably was an accidental firing but they can't admit that
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FEELS GOOD BEING WHITE

This story feels like a comedy skit.
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>>30735907

So did he know object was a toy truck? SWAT used to have a great intelligence gathering component. I guess it wasn't long enough for them to put a nigga on the roof to spot with optics or whatever. Bad shoot but I don't think it was malicious unless they find moon and Ian Stuart on shooters phone. Brain fart ARGHHH SHOOT HE IS MOVING bullshit. A lot more were shot at waco2 biker bash.
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>>30735822
Who is this semen demon and why can't she cook a pizza?
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Story?
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>>30736031
The caretaker told the cops it was a toy truck before the shooting.
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>>30735822
thicc
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>>30736056

Yeah but they said he was not in audio range. IS there any vid of them rolling up? That is why I asked what the distance was.
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>>30736053
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/21/us/miami-officer-involved-shooting/
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>>30735998
Wait, but don't white people get shot by cops at a higher percent? Just because it doesn't get coverage doesn't mean you're more likely to get a unwanted lead injection if your skin color is not black.
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>>30736056

That, and apparently these assholes can't afford a pair of binoculars.
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>>30736044
With tits like that she doesn't need to know how to cook.
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>>30736056
>The caretaker told the cops it was a toy truck before the shooting
I think he said that after shooting. According to the anchors, the camera started rolling after he was shot
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>>30736108

I think he was yelling it before but the shooter couldn't hear him or was so caught up in the moment that he couldn't process it.

Weird to see SWAT in such quick mode.
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This is the funniest shooting since that one guy who tried to run in the Dagestani vid.
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>>30736099
Most police shootings kill white people, but blacks are the victims about 30% of the time. That sounds bad when you think about the fact that blacks are 13% of the general population, but it's less bad if you think about the fact that blacks are about half the felon population.

Asians get shot way more per capita than anyone else.
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>>30735822
>squares on a tiny pizza
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>>30736078
Jesus Christ what a shit-tier marksman, assuming he was using a rifle. I consistently strike man-sized targets at 100m, and could do so even my first time handling a real firearm. So it's kinda worrisome that a SWAT officer apparently can't hit a target at a third of that range. And apparently can't afford some god damn binoculars.
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>>30736108
No, the video was before the shooting.
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>>30736099
No, blacks are cop-shot at a higher rate than whites, but more total whites get shot.
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>>30736168
WOULD SOMEONE JUST USE GOOGLE TO FIND SOME GOD DAMN FUCKIN' INFOGRAPHICS PLEASE.
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>>30735822
I want them both in my mouth. The pizza and the girl.
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>>30736175
>>30736151
>>30736106
>>30736044
>>30735822
Emily Helen Barry. Jew Yorker real estate agent.
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>>30735974
>SWAT cop accidentally fires 3 rounds
How bad is the SWAT team to hire this guy? Isn't trigger discipline supposed to be gun safety 101? Thats so stupid I don't beleive it.
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>>30736108
>I think he said that after shooting. According to the anchors, the camera started rolling after he was shot
There are two parts to the video, before and after the shots fired. The pre-shooting video shows him saying twice that the autist had a toy truck
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>>30736251

Yeah Miami PD has called him out now.

"Authorities in North Miami, Fla., said Friday that they had placed a second police officer on leave as part of the investigation into a police shooting there earlier this week in which an officer shot and wounded an unarmed man."
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>>30736205
Does she do that real estage agent porn
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>>30735774

The officer forgot that his high-capacity assault clip was loaded with black-seeking bullets.
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>>30735774
Florida
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>>30736212
burst fire?
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>>30736517
>"I was more worried about him than myself," Kinsey told CNN affiliate WSVN-TV in Miami.
>"As long as I've got my hands up, they're not gonna shoot me, that's what I'm thinking," Kinsey said. "Wow, was I wrong."

kek the blind fuck who pulled the trigger needs to be relieved of his duties
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"miss"
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>>30736125
Video source? I'm intrigued
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>>30735774
Typical law enforcement accuracy.

Los Angeles County reports the average hit ratio was 51 percent when one officer was firing, but that declined to 23 percent when two officers fired at a suspect, and declined to 9 percent when more officers were involved. High capacity magazines mean that the police spray and pray.
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>>30736788
>mfw antigun fanatics who keep pushing mag limits are practically training terrorists to become more efficient
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>>30735792
range I go to also hosts local LEO quals.

they roll up, we all leave. they are the fucking worst. pic related.
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>>30735792
>>30736153
>>30736788

Most cops, especially urban ones, aren't gun people. A lot of them don't even know what make/model their duty weapon is. They take them out to "qualify," which is usually some laughably easy shit like hitting on paper on a silhouette at 7 yards (or hitting a 3x5 index card at 100 yards for a "SWAT sniper") a few times a year as required and that's it.

I mean the whole reason NYPD glocks have super heavy trigger pulls is because they couldn't train police not to shoot themselves in the leg by ignoring rule #3 when they draw. I knew a SWAT "sniper" who was a regular at my range and he had the most retarded 16" sawed-off Remington 700 setup and thought he was hot shit because he could get a 4 MOA group at 100 yards from the benchrest.
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>/k/ thinks cops shooting people who had no reason to be shit is funny


I'm guessing you all will be turning in your guns when the friendly police man is at your door too.
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>>30735998
http://www.policestateusa.com/2013/david-perdue/
Around cops, never relax.

(White guy in a honda run off road and lit up by major police department while they were searching for a black guy in a nissan)
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>>30736147
You ever thought that brown people are in prison more becuause the cops are targeting them more than 3 times the ENTIRE US BLACK POPULATON and arresting them on bullshit in the first place.
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>>30737190
No.
They're there because they can't help themselves and they keep committing offenses.
I don't know WHY they keep committing offenses but it's consistent and well documented
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>>30737131
>practically entire thread is about LEO firearm inaccuracy
>focuses on a couple of 'look a black man hyuk hyuk' posts
victim complex as bad as libtards
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>>30737131
Just because the use of force might be unjustified doesn't mean that the deceased wasn't a criminal.
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>>30737190
Arrest records, crime victimization reports, and convication/plea rates all track very well and do not indicate brown people are 'targetted' by police but rather that they are victims of more crime and perpetuate more crime than whites or asians.

This means: whites commit more crimes than browns (They are many more whites than browns though, so per capita it's lower)
Browns commit more crimes per capita than whites, so they are stopped more and arrested more per capita. This is backed up by looking at the Crime Victimization Studies based on surveys given to people who... are victims of crime. The VICTIMS of crime report brown people committing the act against them, even if the victim themselves are brown.

If you correct arrest/stop rates for crime victimization rates, all racism disappears from the statistics.
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>>30737245
Please show me the man in questions criminal record. This might be a really big shock to you but their are some black men who manage to have clean records and be normal functioning members of society.
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>>30737131
he's a nigger, and you know nothing of the facts, and he was accidentally shot anyways
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>>30737263
so I take it you will be turning in your guns right? You're not a nigger are you? Only niggers break laws!
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>>30737256
it would be a breach of privacy to release the man's criminal history. But I'm convinced people with no criminal histories (or bad attitudes) rarely have protracted or negative interactions with police.
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>>30736174
Interestingly, a recent study by a black professor found out that blacks are no more likely to be shot.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/upshot/surprising-new-evidence-shows-bias-in-police-use-of-force-but-not-in-shootings.html?_r=0

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/13/why-a-massive-new-study-on-police-shootings-of-whites-and-blacks-is-so-controversial/
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>>30737286
>Interestingly, a recent study by a black professor found out that blacks are no more likely to be shot.
yeh because if you shoot a blcak guy you get placed under unfair scrutiny and charged because it's politically desirous.
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>>30737280
that's nice dear

too bad your opinion is completely irrelevant to this particular incident given the circumstances
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>>30736147
>Asians get shot way more per capita than anyone else.
I call bullshit.
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>>30735774
Seriously, the bigger issue here is nothing to do with who the two dudes were. One had his hands in the air, the other was holding a toy truck. Cops are having too much of their training be about violent response, rather than responding to the community as if they're members of it.

Seriously. A goddamn toy truck. Treated like it was a fucking suicide vest.
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>>30737325
>too much of their training be about violent response, rather than responding to the community as if they're members of it.
Yeh because police usually respond to normal, non violent incidents.
Like that one time you called 911 because of an adorable puppy attack?
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>>30737325
My bigger deal is how inconsistent the media is about this shit.
>You don't need guns, the cops will protect you
>The cops will kill you for looking at them wrong
Fuck, pick one and stick with it.
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>>30737325
He was holding the toy truck...MENACINGLY.
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>>30737347
So much this.
Gun restrictions should doubly apply to officers until they get their fucking shit together.
If you can't make the shot then don't shoot.
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>>30737342

Yeah, actually the vast majority of shit they respond to doesn't require them to pull their guns. Maybe you should stop basing your opinions of typical police work on the Lethal Weapon franchise.

In this instance some dumb fuck had apparently called in that the autist had a gun so they sent a bunch of cops in with AR-15s which is reasonable as I see it; but the problem is that the police academies have been training them to be so fucking paranoid and trigger happy that they see guns everywhere and unload on pretty much anyone who's not holding their hands over their heads and pissing themselves while saying "Sorry officer".
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>>30735774

You know this case makes me realize that we need to start issuing the cops fucking binoculars. Looking at the situation from outside of shooting range for a few seconds would have shown them that it was just an autist with a toy truck.

I realize that sometimes they just run into shit and have to make split second decisions; but they could have taken their time here and never should have been in a position where they felt threatened enough to even aim at the tard or the tard handler.
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>>30737428
well if you can do better mr operator why don't you apply to join teh academy.
Police in Australia seem to be alot more professional than American police.
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>>30737342
However, when was the last time a person got perforated by mall Security? Yet those guys deal with a similar volume and content of calls from medical first response to violent drunks to car fires to burglaries and yet the majority of those responses don't turn violent or make the news. Some police behave like just because they are loaded down with five to eight different weapons at all times they have to use them.
>when you're a hemmer everything looks like a nail.
In OP's particular shooting, if one cop adjust done his job of trying to de-escalate the situation and protect and serve the public trust (which used to be their primary directive and creed) no one would have been shot. Instead you have police departments filling up with ex-infantrymen who had no marketable skills following their ETS dates except marksmanship,basic physical fitness, and patience for sitting in vehicles for hours. These guys are then rammed through roughly six months of "training", which doesn't even qualify for a certificate in most other professional fields, and cut loose to learn teamwork and sharpen their nose for trouble by season offices for up to a year.

Nothing about learning their communities demographics, political atmosphere, anything. They're taking weapons, honing their senses,and cutting them loose on the streets with a divisive mindset, a chip on their shoulder against anyone who disagrees, and an arsenal of weapons ranging from chemical irritants to weapons designed to fight knock down drag out war in the streets.

It's not about policing anymore. Not about helping. It's about fighting, and winning by any means necessary.
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>>30737453
>However, when was the last time a person got perforated by mall Security?
security don't respond to 911 jobs.
They have a much narrower, simpler objective.
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>>30735774

You know what would fix this problem instantly?

If when the police had to pay out a settlement for someone who they shot, beat or ran over due to incompetence or cruelty that the money wasn't paid for by the tax payer; but came directly out of the police retirement fund.

That way the cops wouldn't defend the incompetent or cruel bastards who do this shit because they'd be costing them money and we'd actually be able to get the shit tier cops off the force instead of seeing them protected by all of this thin blue line bullshit.
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>>30735774
>Give me your license

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMfhzOvZbmQ
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>>30737446

I don't believe in the war on drugs or in harassing working people over minor traffic violations and that would constitute about 90% of my work.

I wouldn't fill my ticket quota or my drug bust quota and I'd get fired.
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>>30737453
>when was the last time a person got perforated by mall Security? Yet those guys deal with a similar volume and content of calls from medical first response to violent drunks to car fires to burglaries and yet the majority of those responses don't turn violent or make the news.
I believe you've been misinformed about what mall security guards do. They aren't even allowed to touch customers or even fight back if attacked.

Do you remember Paul Blart? How the first half of the movie has him letting people walk all over him and women beat the shit out of him? That is how actual security guards are expected to behave in their jobs. If an actual emergency happens, their job is to call in 911 and bugger the fuck out.
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>>30737516

Someone actually watched Paul Blart Mall Cop?
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>>30737472

You can already sue individual officers if they act outside of their department policy.

Stop giving advice on things you know nothing about.
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>>30737528
And worked as a security guard, too.
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>>30737497

The war on drugs is population control for the poor.
And traffic laws exist for a reason.
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>>30737528
you didn't?
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>>30737472
>You know what would fix this problem instantly?
If capital punishment worked both ways.
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>>30737613
It does
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>>30737621
Only cops I've seen sentenced to death in the US are the ones that get caught as serial killers.
The "one and done"s seem to get a slap on the wrists.
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>>30737532
>You can already sue individual officers if they act outside of their department policy.
>Stop giving advice on things you know nothing about.
Your implication that PDs actually refuse to indemnify the actions of their officers makes you the ignorant one. Besides, a lot of the stupid/malicious shit they do IS within 'department policy' which is the problem.
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>>30737699

>The "one and done"s seem to get a slap on the wrists.
I can't remember the last person who killed a single guy in sketchy circumstances and got the death penalty.

>>30737702
>Your implication that PDs actually refuse to indemnify the actions of their officers makes you the ignorant one.
There's no choice involved in the latter.
>Besides, a lot of the stupid/malicious shit they do IS within 'department policy' which is the problem.
It's really easy to be a backseat cop.
Not so easy to actually do it yourself.
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>>30735774
Just watch Bob Vogel run through modified police qualifications.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py1WSRpcl6E

The original ones are stupid fucking easy holy shit
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>>30737325
He was autistic, and didn't know what was going on. Imagine if he were deaf, and couldn't hear commands. Being harmless, and not complying are not reasons to start shooting.
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>>30735792
Would you like a tax increase so you can pay these guys a deserving salary, and perhaps attract a better quality of people for the job?

No, you want to keep paying them shit and getting what you pay for. Don't complain.
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>>30737728
>It's really easy to be a backseat cop.
>Not so easy to actually do it yourself.
Yeah yeah, Saturday morning quarterbacking as they like to call it.

Guess you can't talk shit about a movie until you get in the director's chair yourself and yell "action", eh? Except no one besides butthurt hacks like Uwe Boll think that. You don't need a movie under your belt to be a film critic, and neither do you need to have worn a badge to criticize police conduct. Or are we buying into the modern left's identity politics that prevent critique or even understanding of another person's situation unless you share all their unique characteristics, of course replacing 'black genderqueer otherkin' for 'police officer'. It's odious either way, otherwise no one could ever offer their opinion on anything, as no one is identical and everyone is shaped by their unique life experiences.

Back to the topic, very rarely are cops not indemnified for their misconduct, so typically qualified immunity shields them from any personal liability. Not that it'd matter, really, a lawsuit against an officer's personal estate might not yield anything at all, especially compared to the hundreds of thousands to even millions one could get from a settlement with the city.

I would much rather see an officer guilty of misconduct not personally sued but instead serve time for their crimes. At the same time, as was suggested by another, by making that settlement money come out of police pension funds, you would overcome the whole moral hazard (as in, cop fuckups cost the city, not them, so it's not their problem when they do fuckup) by actually subjecting the police force as a whole to the consequences of their fellow officers' actions, forcing policy changes, police culture, and accountability improvements because no one will want to keep the cowboys on the force when each wrongful death or improper use of force hits everyone's retirement equally.
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>>30737777
yes I would support higher taxes and with that a lot more transparency on where that money is spent
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>>30737786

>implying I'm going to read all that shit
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>>30735822
I want to eat that pizza
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>>30737412
It would give the unarmed citizenry a chance.

One case caught on audio, "Let me see your hands!", was followed immediately by the officer shooting someone exiting a car with phone in hand.

In another case, deputies went to check on a parolee, and his roommate was lying on a mattress. It was imagined that the roommate was going for a gun under his mattress, and a mag dump commenced. Fourteen rounds at point blank range.

In the first case, the man was killed. In the second, he survived (he was lucky that the deputy was so inaccurate).

I support limited capacity magazines for law enforcement.
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>>30737777
I'd rather pay more for effective police than slightly less for ineffective police, so yes. I don't object to my tax money going for libraries, research, or the space program either, because they produce meaningful rewards.
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>>30737796
I want to eat your mom's pizza if you know what I mean.
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>>30735774
100% justified. I mean who the fuck lies on their back with their arms in the air like that. What is this nigga trying to do some reverse islamic chant or some shit? It's suspect as fuck. If I were an LEO and someone surrendered to me with their arms in anything BUT a perfect 90 degree angle I would fear for my life and be forced to discharge my firearm multiple times if you catch my drift.

Also a toy truck IS a deadly weapon...I mean someone could have slipped on that thing.
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>>30735774
Murrikan cops are so racist that they unconsciously aim for the the black guy
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>>30737124
They taught us in academy not to make tight groupings because it clots more easily and not to shoot a perfect score because that can and has been used against officers in court, for example if you miss a shot the prosecutor will ask how you missed when you shot a perfect qualifying score and imply you did it on purpose and get you for reckless endangerment even if it's a stray round. The courts eat us alive and departments will throw you under the bus to save face even if you made the right decision (ie Darren Wilson). We accept a shit ton of liability in this job, have some sympathy for the ones that actually didn't make a bad call (this fucker definitely did though)

>>30737788
They're pretty transparent, but if you saw how much was spent on overtime you'd shit. You try making perfect decisions and shots after working a double. Shit, 9 hours into a regular 10 hour is difficult enough.
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>>30737819
before throwing money at the problem and attracting more retarded fatasses to the job, it would probably be wiser to fix any underlying malignant issues first.

in this example, maybe start a binoculars gofundme and some training so that the morons can keep their eyes open long enough to use them.
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>>30735774

I don't think that's what happened. I think he had a negligent discharge and is trying to act like he intended to shoot and then reason as if he was justified somehow. He's lying and trying to cover his ass now because I'm sure he's getting death threats, and his career is flashing before his eyes, and maybe he has a family he loves and is trying to support, and oh shit daddy fucked up now mommy has to get a job and daddy has to deliver pizzas and we have to move into the ghetto with all the Black people that hate us now because it's all we can afford. I'm not defending the cop's actions, or his lies, but you can see how the system, and life in general, are set up to encourage lies.

But yeah, like 99% of the shootings that BLM protest and march over are bullshit and the niggers deserved it, this is probably one where he didn't. BLM has cried wolf so many fucking times I was even skeptical of this one, only because the video cuts out for the shooting and when it comes back the dude is already in handcuffs, and I couldn't help but wonder if maybe the cops were set up, and I wanted to wait to hear what they had to say. When the cop came out and made a statement through his union that he was trying to shoot the fat kid, I realized it was actually an ND.

Anyway, I don't think there was any malice or racism involved, so this shit is nothing to march over. Nothing is going to change in regards to this shit. The cop will be relieved of duty, the dude will get paid, and that will be that. Nothing will get accomplished by making a big deal out of it.
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>>30737868
Oh, and the reason for that overtime. No one wants to do the damn job. We're 600 officers short due to a hiring freeze for the past few years, which means the public (or their representatives at least) have decided we don't need any funding.

Even if we come off the freeze only retards and ex-military super retards (these are the guys that make the worst calls and defend the other guys that make them tooth and nail) are going to apply because pay is a fucking shit 50k a year, it's dangerous as fuck, it has a shit ton of liability and could result in prison time if you screw up, and more and more people hate us because there's stupid people making bad decisions. See the vicious cycle? It doesn't attract professionals, and you the taxpayer are the reason for that. If you keep making it a shittier and shittier deal don't wonder why all the good ones quit and youre left with the retards and AA hires.
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>>30737777
How would paying them more attract better quality officers? I don't mind paying them more as long as the requirements are also changed and a Masters degree is needed for the job.

But fun fact. If you're IQ is too high, departments are legally allowed to not hire you on that basis.

To me that just proves my point that cops are the King's men/castle guards. They don't want thinkers who won't enforce unfair laws. They want "GET ON THE GROUND!!! Just doing my job mam"
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>>30737742
I kinda regret watching that. Gad dayum talk about low standards
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>>30737925

[CITATION NEEDED HIPPIE]
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>>30737280
>breach of privacy
Ok there Jamal, I guess that's why I can look up if people have outstanding warrants, sex offenses, or incarceration in general. Maybe you should stop playing lawyer on the Internet and read a damn book.
Sheiit nigga you dumb
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>>30737951
>Hurrr durrr I'm too stupid and lazy to gewgle "IQ cop standards"

Found the future pig, or even worse statist boot licker. Nice ad hominem too... Apparently if I state a FACT it must make me a hippie even though I am a very conservative Christian man.

No need to thank me fatty.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
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>>30735774
>Be a fat white cop
>Been bullied over the years by blacks
>Finally a chance to pay back
>Blames on "bad shooting"
>Walks free
Its good to live in the US and A
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>>30737925
You take a written test before you are eligible for hire, it's essentially an IQ test and the better you score the more likely you are to get hired. They want smart guys who can write reports well, do a special assignment (detective work) better, and not make a shit call the department will be liable for and have to pay out.
I'm aware of the case you're citing but it seems to be a rare thing. We try to avoid hiring stupid people, the fact that there's an aptitude test alone though..

Keep in mind the less you pay overall the more people switch departments for higher pay, the more people retire and go do something else, and the less people apply. That leads to departments being short staffed and overtime has to be paid. My department came off its hiring freeze because it was paying more in overtime than it would be paying new officers working full time. Plus people that aren't being overworked make better decisions. A lot of what's involved is split second gray area type stuff.
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>>30737883
>I think he had a negligent discharge
I guess the facts still need to come out, but if that's the case, it would be three different NDs unless he was using a rifle with burst fire.

excuses exist for a lot of accidents by professionals, but violin-playing shouldn't justify incompetence. if this was the medical or aviation field we were talking about, things would grind to a halt and standard procedure would be appraised and reappraised faster than it takes a BLM protest to gather up. the 'nothing will get accomplished by making a stink of it' attitude is precisely why bad protocol is allowed to linger despite multiple incidents, and is exactly the attitude that was drummed out of everyone along with recalcitrant employees before air and medical safety improved drastically.

that's not to say that all these incidents can be lumped together into one homogeneous problem that needs solving, but holy shit at least LOOK like you're making an effort to sort it out instead of hiding behind legal protection and refusing to acknowledge there is a problem when something like this happens.
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>>30737999
Thats not usually how it goes. Cop here.

>be white cop
>bullied around by white chads who end up becoming famous or rich
>need to feel powerful, how can I shoot people without repercussions.
>become cop
>niggers commit the most crime so most likely will deal with niggers
>statistically speaking will most likely take it out on niggers especially because nigs don't cooperate
>be labeled a racist even though it isn't a race thing

That's the truth bub
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>>30737925
>let's make a master's degree required

See how many applicants you get and how many people end up out in the street responding to your calls and keeping the shit in line. I'm sure people who have masters degrees want to work dangerous job for 50k a year, or even 70-80k.
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>>30737925
Most cops I know (live in Fayettenam btw) have a bachelors degree or an Associates Degree in Criminal Justice from the local CC.
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>>30738008
>I guess the facts still need to come out, but if that's the case, it would be three different NDs

My bad, thought the dude was only shot once and the cop only shot once. Three shots, then he's just retarded. I have no idea what the actual retard did. Did he quickly try to point the truck at the cop like it was a gun or something, thinking it would be funny? Why does the video cut out right when the shooting happened? Are the niggers trying to hide something?

I don't doubt the cop fucked up, but all the crying wold has me skeptical. In light of the evidence we DO have, I am still leaning toward "the cop fucked up".
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>>30738003
Obviously they don't want complete bozos. But if you're too smart they don't want that either. And let's be real here, 130 isn't even THAT high. They can come up with bullshit excuses like "he'll become too bored with police work and quit right after" but the reality of the situation is we all know that's a bullshit political excuse, and the higher ups have orders from other higher ups and so on, and only the top brass know the real reason, but come on, let's be real here, they don't want people thinking for themselves.

Same reason why I had a hard time being in the Muhreenes even as an intelligence specialist. I should have gone straight to college.
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>>30738008
and to add, fixing hours is one of those things if that's a problem. for example, the 80 hour week cap on residents so they don't accidentally kill someone because they're tired. it's hard to fix the system if there's no impetus to owe up and find out what the causative issues are, and in the case of residency hours, it was a massive lawsuit. unfortunately LE is too stubborn and financially/legally well protected to do well by its employees and the public.
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>>30738030
>CJ degree

Useless waste of time and money. They teach you all that in academy and field training. You'd be better suited spending the money putting yourself through an academy and becoming state certified then applying.

Best route is to get a degree you're interested in then get hired. They want people from diverse backgrounds, not just all ex mil guys with CJ degrees.
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>>30738027
Idiot, do you lack reading comprehension you massive fool? I even stated that I'd be okay with a major pay raise, one fitting for a holder of such a degree.
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>>30738034
>Why does the video cut out right when the shooting happened?
is this a youtube video? because I'd wager it's gore censorship before coming up with any other assumptions
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>>30738008
>if this was the medical or aviation field we were talking about, things would grind to a halt and standard procedure would be appraised and reappraised faster than it takes a BLM protest to gather up

You think "covering shit up" is bad in law enforcement, doctors are just as likely to fuck up and explain away their fuck ups, because their livelihoods are just as much on the line as a cop's. Anyone who has any sort of responsibility in this life is capable of lying to try to save their job, and of those there are only a handful which directly handle human lives.

I work in nursing, and when I was but a wee nurse, I stood in on a surgical procedure and I was watching a resident surgeon performing a surgery on an elderly woman's liver. He was poking and prodding around the liver itself, trying to figure out how he would do things, and the veteran surgeon got tired of it and said "oh for Christ's sake, just expose the field" and lifted the liver. This ripped the liver off the hepatic artery, and the old woman bled out on the operating table.

The old surgeon walked out and told the family that she died of complications. I don't know why I didn't say anything right then and there, I guess I figured a younger person would have had a more elastic artery and that wouldn't have happened, that mistakes like that are minor, but that they have serious consequences, and a person can't really be entirely blamed for what happened. i probably just didn't say shit because I didn't want to rock the boat and risk losing my job somewhere down the line.

Either way, mistakes happen. As long as humans do the job, you can count on at least that. If the risk of assuming responsibility outweigh the benefits, no one will want to do the job. Being a police officer means OKAY pay with lots of risk of running into niggers that will make you make split-second decisions.
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>>30738040
They do go by statistics, that may be part of the reasoning behind that. They likely won't hire someone who switches jobs often on their resume, for example. Just to get someone in an academy seat, after medical exams, polygraphs, and evaluations by a licensed psychologist, they've (well, you've) invested around 8k in an applicant. By the time they've finished academy the city has invested around 47k in their training. Yeah it would suck ass if they just decided to quit, and remember the department's money is your money m8.

But the idea that they would turn down an intelligent person baffles me. Half the complaints supervisors have is "this guy/girl is a dumbass." Why they would want someone less intelligent managing as a supervisor, or doing complex homicide investigations, or flying their multimillion dollar helicopters is beyond me.
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>>30738059

Yeah, it's a Youtube video, but the ACTUAL video cuts out, and even the news anchor points that out in news pieces about this shooting.
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>>30737446
>somebody says essentially "these men we have armed with lethal weapons should be good at using them"
>wull if yew can dew bedder MR. """"""OPRATER"""""" then join teh academy!!!!
Speaking as a third party here:
You are a fucking mouth-breathing retard.

Oh and
>mentions Australia
No wonder why you're an idiot, you're a mutant wallaby-fucker.

>>30737549
>somebody says they would make a bad cop because they don't believe in X and abusing Y laws
>ya wel X is fer killen porpeple an Y exists for reisens
>shilling this hard for cops
>blatantly admitting corrupt police are A-OK
Again. Mouth breathing retard.

I legitimately burst out laughing when I read your posts because I find unbridled stupidity and cognitive dissonance hilarious.
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>>30738049
How do I put this simply... nerds aren't going to take an adrenaline junky type job, and adrenaline junkies aren't going to sit through and pay for 6 years of school. Sitting through and paying 6 years of school for anyone, just to become a cop? Think in terms of economics here. I'm not and idiot, this is what I specialize in. I work in the employment bureau.
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>>30738077
They don't want idiots either. Theyre trying to find a sweet spot. A balance of monkey who could follow orders perfectly, but also not intelligent enough to truly be self aware.

No /lit/ or /sci/ fags becoming cops. To be fair intelligent people aren't even interested in such jobs. If they are they'll gravitate towards FBI like jobs.
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>>30738096
It is if it pays accordingly they would, and being a cop is not even in the top 10 most dangerous jobs in the USA. Intelligent people also aren't typically lazy. 10 high quality cops can do the work of the 100 Fat beaner women cops I see here in LA.

You're right, you're putting it simply. Simply stupid.
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>>30738111
Don't you need some sort of law enforcement background to join the FBI in the US?

At least where I live our equivalent of the FBI only recruits people from within police ranks unless it's for a specialist of some sort.
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>>30738119
Nope. If you have a degree and clean record you can join
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>>30737497
If we let cartels and even small drug gangs operate unhindered you wouldn't be a happy camper when your city turns into a ghetto and your son becomes a heroin junky. I'm not exaggerating considering the scope of this stuff in some areas, mainly inner cities and surrounding areas. A lot of people not involved in the drug market are going to suffer, crackheads stealing their stuff, rapists running amok (drugs make you uncivil), gangs making a lot of money and doing as they please... there's a reason for the "war on drugs" aka laws and that's to protect civility.

Same goes for traffic laws. If someone isn't deterred by thr possibility of being fined for their shitty driving abd putting other drivers in danger, they just might drive like an asshole and piss YOU off, or maybe kill your kid one day but who cares at least he's not being inconvenienced to "pay for the rich" right? Oh btw those traffic tickets save you the taxpayer money, that money you dont want to pay to fund us for making your drive safer. Why wouldn't you want the ones actually doing dangerous shit to pay for the service that exists because of their uncivil ass? It's a good system desu.
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>>30738097
Nope. Pretty much everyone that isn't an affirmative action hire is a standard 100 or higher IQ person. The exceptions come around when it comes to women, minorities, and people who can translate Spanish. Some of those people are real dipshits. We won't deal with a dipshit otherwise.

>>30738111
No they won't, simply put we don't get a lot of doctors applying.

You think 10 people responding to calls for service are better than 100 people, you're the retard. Enjoy your 4 hour response time and people quitting because they can't even get a piss/lunch break.
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>>30738123
Well join the FBI academy. Remember it's another couple years of training at least.
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>>30736788
This is interesting because it probably suggests that they are not actually aiming at their targets. Even in WW2 most soldiers consciously or subconsciously missed their targets. Military training changed to ensure this didn't happen but police training has never done so. Likely when there are multiple officers they are often hoping that someone else is going to have to do the dirty work instead. Or at least that someone else is a better shot.
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>>30738074
it's disingenuous to suggest that 'doctors are just as likely to explain away their fuck ups' just because you were exposed to one doctor who did so. at the hospitals I work at, reworking protocol, keeping your eyes open, documenting and reporting all incidences, doing yearly if not monthly statistical analysis and going over cases with a fine tooth comb in M&M conferences is standard procedure. all of this is standard at most medical institutions employing thousands of doctors in all subspecialties.

the fact that their livelihoods are just as much on the line as a cop's only highlights the difference. one has incidences more frequently than the other, rarely (if ever) renders an apology let alone takes responsibility, and is significantly better protected legally and financially than the other. the rate of incidences can be excused because of the nature of the job, but the other points are definitely contributing to the stagnancy in cultural change. even the pay and hour issues as mentioned by another anon would be remedied as quickly as they were in medicine if the repercussions weren't merely a slap on the wrist and full permission to make the same mistake again and again.
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>>30738131
Everything you just said about the war on drugs is bullshit and you know it.

The current situation regarding cartels and violence is a direct result of the war on drugs itself. Legalizing pot would absolutely destroy the black market for pot. Besides, if you truly believe the shit you're peddling you'd want alcohol illegal again, because that is a drug that has a direct and demonstrable link to crime.

Also, if you're worried about 'civility' then you'd probably want more rehabilitation and less punitive sentences for non-violent drug crimes, unless of course you intend to make society 'more civil' by ruining the lives and prospects of drug users and locking them up with career criminals for years so that when released they're broken people who won't be able to properly reintegrate into society or support themselves well so they fall back into crime. I mean, it all seems a bit counterproductive if you ask me.

Traffic is more understandable, except when quotas are expected to be filled, and especially when cops let other cops get away with breaking traffic laws. You can't claim it's for public safety while counteracting that safety by allowing your own to make road conditions less safe for other non-LEO drivers (and no I'm not referring to when the sirens are on, obviously that doesn't count)
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>>30735774

Clear case of idiot officer. No resisting or being an idiot on the caretaker's part. I usually side with the cops on these but it's just a flat out lie that they weren't trying to hit the black guy if they didn't shoot the white guy who was the "threat".

Also cuffing the black guy afterward. wtf.
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>>30738197
>Legalizing pot would absolutely destroy the black market for pot.

Like it did in Colorado? When you have to pay for licensing, rent, security, and salespersons salaries, your weed is more expensive than a guy who imported it from Mexico and sells it himself. It didn't work where it was tried because people kept buying the cheap black market weed. You need to start thinking in terms of economics, it's everything.

I support rehabilitation for drug offenders, it's been shown to work for the most part. I would rather pay for that than have them keep giving money to El Chapo every time they buy weed or whatever it is theyre buying. Brotip: it's probably going to cost you more than just policing them. Still though I'm sick of dealing with it, they should be rehabilitated.

Quotas exist so an officer isn't just sleeping in his car all shift if there are no calls for service. Do you want cops doing that? Bear in mind you pay their salary. Again, economics.
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>>30738258
>your weed is more expensive than a guy who imported it from Mexico and sells it himself
Not the guy you're responding to, but I imagine that the rest of the country artificially propping up weed import by penalizing local manufacture, distribution and possession significantly affects the price and volume of foreign weed pouring into the local market. Suggesting that legalization doesn't work because local restrictions continue to inflate prices of homegrown weed for all the reasons you mentioned isn't an argument against legalization, it's an argument for loosening restrictions on local farmers and increasing volume to fill demand. Using Colorado as an example of how legalizing pot doesn't work is tenuous if you start thinking in terms of local vs. national economics. A single state legalizing weed has barely any effect on the national black market.
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>>30737796
i think its a pie.
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>>30738354
They're not going to price match the black market. They simply aren't, it's like an American company trying to price match 3rd world outsourcing. People would even rather buy the stuff secondhand than grow it themselves because setting up a private growing operation large enough to meet their individual "needs" is initially more expensive than buying it, and they aren't he type to think ahead.

The whole point you legalizers made was that we were going to tax it and it would benefit everyone, don't backpedal. Oh that's another cost you have to look at, taxes. Speaking of which, guess what medical weed means in terms of socialized healthcare? Don't blame me, I was never an edgy libertarian.
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>>30738195
I've overheard doctors talking openly about how they enjoy UBEs (unnecessary breast exams). People who happilyy admit to casual sexual assault are probably not going to be too phased with covering up each others accidental killings.
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>>30738427
No one said anything about price matching. And again, you're bringing up precisely the points that tell you why the comparison and subsequent conclusion is faulty - based strictly on economics, there are artificial barriers that prevent one state that legalized weed from even scratching the surface of the national black market that surrounds it.

>The whole point you legalizers made was that we were going to tax it and it would benefit everyone, don't backpedal
1) I'm not a "legalizer", 2) I didn't mention taxes, and 3) there is no backpedaling in any of my post. Again, 'one state legalized weed, where's the black market evaporation?' is a terrible point to make if your whole argument hinges on looking at everything from an economics perspective. Muddying the waters with socialized healthcare, taxes and tariffs is putting the cart before the horse and doing a lot of hypothesizing when there has been close to zero change to influence the status quo.
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>>30735878
>bullets warp to his nigger ... instead
kek we smart bullets nao?
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>>30737482
What a fucking idiot, I heard the guy was fired and put in jail so at least he got what he deserved
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There was a town somewhere, I forgot the name, but they required officers to have a degree(this was in like the 80s when no one had degrees) and they had to wear a suit, they hired professional people and played them very well. Professionalism amongst the police sky rocketed and shootings dropped.

If you pay more you can expect better people applying, and get a higher caliber of person. Its the same principle with any job, if you pay more more people want to work there increasing your ability of hiring a better skilled and more knowledgeable person.

IE no more dumb shit cops who can't shoot for shit.
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>>30735774
damn, cop bullets really are "nigger seeking"
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>>30737994
lol christian
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>>30738510
even if something similar were to occur at an ethically sound institution, where a very large number of people, including nurses and techs, would have to be in on the fun with no avenue to report it without consequence, it wouldn't change the fact that good institutions HAVE changed the way they operate, and that such changes HAVE shown statistical improvements in unnecessary procedures, surgical errors, nosocomial infections and patient reports of unprofessional or unethical behavior. a fundamental change being one of taking responsibility and altering the risk benefit analysis to overcome a culture of secrecy, denial and cover ups, and another being the dismissal of anyone who is too stubborn to be governed by safety guidelines and triple checks by multiple people, including their subordinates.

if anything, your anecdote is more comparable to the situation in LE, where sociopaths are allowed to victimize the public with little to no legal or personal repercussions because - in order to protect itself - the system they work within not only permits it but discourages anyone else from fixing it. this was the first thing that the medical and aviation community addressed before they could move forward with protocol development.

my point wasn't that unethical or incompetent doctors no longer exist, but that systemic changes that have been shown to curb the effect of such people exist in addition to catching accidental errors, and that it would be a good place to start if a dysfunctional institution had strong financial or legal impetus to change the way they operate.
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>>30738074
Is that how he lost his medical license, and does he love birds?
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>>30736044
I am pretty sure that is a fucking pie of some sort and not a pizza.
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>>30737868
>all this blatant bullshit and whining

I'm pretty pro-cop usually but you're a sad, mentally deficient excuse for one.
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>>30737914
>No one wants the job
>Hiring freeze

You're a fucking moron.
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>>30737472
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>>30737793
t. A typical bootlicker.
Literally too lazy to argue effectively, let alone think, let alone seek out any form of education.
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>>30735774
Actually shot 3 times and missed all 3, and hit the black guy with one shot.
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City cops are some of the worst shots in the world, OP.
Many cities have created laws that state that if a cop tries to shoot a criminal and hits innocent people instead, the criminal gets charged for the shooting.
Imagine having a job so cushy that you can: go to work, shoot innocent people and have someone else get the blame.
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>>30737280
>But I'm convinced people with no criminal histories (or bad attitudes) rarely have protracted or negative interactions with police
>or bad attitudes

I don't like your attitude boy, I think you need a lesson.
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>>30737347
>>You don't need guns, the cops will protect you
>>The cops will kill you for looking at them wrong
>Fuck, pick one and stick with it.

>>30737412
>Gun restrictions should doubly apply to officers until they get their fucking shit together.

Both of these.

In a country with gun control, it needs to go one step further. In a country without gun control, it needs to be relaxed one step. Either way, an unequal relationship between cops and citizens causes these kinds of situations. Cops treat the public as sheep to be herded and put down if they don't herd properly. Instead of seeing the public as something to protect.
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>>30737446
>Police in Australia seem to be alot more professional than American police.
Police in Australia have killed plenty of unarmed people too. Shot a guy in his driveway because he was holding a sandwich once.

It was worst in the 80s and it got better in the early 2000s because of political pressure but it's been plenty bad.

Roger Rogerson is put away now but there was a reason he was called a serial killer with a badge and a reason why he retired honourably after killing a lot of people.
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>>30737462
>security don't respond to 911 jobs.
They respond to the same jobs before they're called 911. All sorts of crazy shit goes down in malls, if it happened anywhere else then it would just be a 911 call, it's the same shit when it happens in a mall but they don't shoot people for it.
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>>30737532
>You can already sue individual officers if they act outside of their department policy.
The fuck you can.

Unless the department actually decides to throw them under the bus (loyalty usually means they don't) then policy means whatever it needs to mean.

And in fact in many jurisdictions, it's actually not possible to sue police officers in any situation.
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>>30738119
Most FBI applicants do not have prior LE experience. They're mostly college Chads and/or ex .mil fags.
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>>30737728
>It's really easy to be a backseat cop.
>Not so easy to actually do it yourself.

So you can't complain about being raped unless you've raped someone?

You live in a weird world.
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>>30737866
>Murrikan cops are so racist that they unconsciously aim for the the black guy
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>>30735774
if he had shot the fat guy he still would have been shooting an unarmed citizen for no fucking reason.

>mfw police are so used to shooting black people that they shoot black people they're trying to save
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>>30737914
>It doesn't attract professionals, and you the taxpayer are the reason for that. If you keep making it a shittier and shittier deal don't wonder why all the good ones quit and youre left with the retards and AA hires.

I get the vicious circle but blaming the public for being scared and angry about what is done to them is bullshit.

Yeah, it's tragic but the blue wall of silence means that it's fucking hard to do anything about you fucks when you pull shit. You said:
>retards and ex-military super retards (these are the guys that make the worst calls and defend the other guys that make them tooth and nail

Defending those guys if the reason the public doesn't trust any of you. Until cops arrest and prosecute other cops, the public will continue to feel betrayed by you because you are in fact betraying them.

It might not feel like betrayal to police but the public grew up being told that police protect and serve them and when they realise that it's not happening that way, they feel betrayed.

So...what do you want? The public to like you despite what the retarded cops keep doing to them? Or to earn their trust by protecting and serving them even though they are afraid of all of you?

Police solidarity means that if you're a cop, the public can't tell you apart from the retards. Safer to treat you all as trigger happy lying retards than trust the wrong kind of cop and die or go to jail for it.
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>>30739372
>Cops treat the public as sheep to be herded and put down if they don't herd properly.
Link related.

https://youtu.be/Xbp6umQT58A
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>>30739544
I watched four minutes in and then got tired of it.

Now I have to go delete that from my history before Youtube starts recommending me fucking Infowars again.
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>>30738258

Colorado pot is boutique shit that averages $275 an ounce. You're right that there is no damn way your going to push the black market out at those rates.

But Phillip Morris gets to turn up a major growing/production setup with economy of scale and targets the average smoker? That shit won't be $100 per ounce.

That's when things get interesting for the illegal market.
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>ITT people try to justify execution without trial for petty criminals.

Take this shit to /pol/. None of this is /k/ related
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>>30738015
>be labeled a racist even though it isn't a race thing
It's totally a race thing, just not necessarily racism at the individual level.

I kind of agree with you about:
>need to feel powerful, how can I shoot people without repercussions
Even if it's not to shoot people but just to carry a gun and a badge and feel tough. Of course once you have a toy, you want to use it.

I worked with a bosnian refugee once, he and hsi brothers were translators for KFOR and GTFOd afterwards as part of a deal to protect them from retaliation. He was a decent software developer in my company and over lunch sometimes if we asked, he'd tell us stories about the war.

He said that there were a lot of guys who came and joined the bosnian serbs self-defense militia. This wasn't one of the ones doing atrocities, they were just a half-arsed rabble trying not to get curb-stomped by the big boys, completely out-gunned by often the only guns protecting a town or whatever.

He said there were two types that joined the militia:
A) Muslim Jyhadists who would otherwise be terrorists, almost Taliban types
B) Non-muslims who didn't give a fuck about Bosnian serbs but wanted to legally shoot people and choose the side that were plausibly victims in the war

He said that most of the second type left pretty soon, either got it out of their system or faced the reality of war and quit. Some real psychos enjoyed it and stuck around and he stayed the fuck away from those guys.
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>>30738082
>No wonder why you're an idiot, you're a mutant wallaby-fucker.
Australians have their own problems with police, it's not as bad as USA but it's real enough.
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>>30739586
Enjoy your blue pill. You were so close. (Assuming you are the anon I was replying to in the first place.)
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>>30738046
unless it's "science" related all degrees are crap
it's just proves you have the time/dedication/money to obtain one
which may or may not be a good way to select someone for a job
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>>30738008
>if this was the medical or aviation field we were talking about, things would grind to a halt and standard procedure would be appraised and reappraised faster than it takes a BLM protest to gather up. the 'nothing will get accomplished by making a stink of it' attitude is precisely why bad protocol is allowed to linger despite multiple incidents

The twin factors of avoiding a fuss and professional loyalty have infected all sorts of workplaces and institutions.

The best example of how bad it gets is the churches covering up child-rape by priests. It went on for ages, centuries probably and everyone knew and everyone covered it up.

This is basically the same thing, it happened in schools with teachers when I was a kid, not rape necessarily but I know a teacher that seduced a year9 girl and got away with it because no other teachers would talk about it. I know teachers that beat students and blatantly lied about it and got kids expelled for complaining about shit.

It's a human tendency when we form into institutions, the institution develops its own culture of self-protection. It takes real discipline to avoid it, that exists in some industries but it doesn't exist in the judiciary in any form.
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>>30738875
underrated kek

>>30738913
>you're a sad, mentally deficient excuse for one
Nah, I think he's mostly ok, just a kool-aid drinker about thinking it's the public's fault for not being more loyal to the police or something.

He's a bit too much us&them but otherwise he's ok.
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>>30739613
Yeah there's a story of an American jihadist (he's Shia ) who went to Bosnia and helped train people and fought in their war.
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>>30739605
>>ITT people try to justify execution without trial for petty criminals.
Not even criminals, just innocent people that some 911 caller said were petty criminals.
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>>30739605
Lots of /pol/ related posts this weekend, are mods off on weekends?
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>>30739629
>Assuming you are the anon I was replying to in the first place
No, that was me but I didn't watch it once I saw the title pic. I bet I can predict the general message and I half agree with it but I don't need to drink the koolaid.
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>>30739709
>Yeah there's a story of an American jihadist (he's Shia ) who went to Bosnia and helped train people and fought in their war

Sounds like my friend's (A) people. It was the (B) people that was the point of my story. It was the part of his story that always stuck with me.

Because in that same company, at a buck's night for another guy, I met the guy's brother and he was the reddest of necks, a real hick who wanted to be a cop and I could just tell that this guy was a (B) person. He wanted to legally shoot a guy and cops were how to do it.

I forgot his name so I never got around to googling him and seeing if he ever did but the part of that story that always stuck in my mind was that there are people in the world who want to know what it feels like to kill other people and they'll go to really extreme lengths to get a job or adventure where they can shoot people and get away with it.

It scared the shit out of me and always will.
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>>30739544
>cropping out his chick lean
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>>30737446
>Police in Australia seem to be alot more professional than American police.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/apr/05/sydney-siege-hostage-shot-in-both-legs-criticises-police-response

Yes, they are total operators.
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>>30737472
>but came directly out of the police retirement fund.
Then police would literally never engage.
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>>30738550
Bullets have always held a preference.

Nigs <mentally ill <gays <hispanics <asians <whites

This is why guns are racists and attrack those poor minorities seeking a gun to protect them from bullets.
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>>30736044
What pizza?
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>>30735774
cops use African seeking bullets
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>>30739826
Not originally my pic. I saved it from /k/.
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>>30735774
>"When he hit me, I'm like, I still got my hands in the air," he said.
>"I'm like, 'Sir, why did you shoot me?' " Kinsey said he asked the officer.
>"He said to me, 'I don't know.'"

Even cops don't know why they shoot unarmed black people
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>literal autist wanders away from home and behavioral therapist goes to retrieve him
>some crazy bitch calls 911 and tells 911 that the autistic guy has a gun
>he has a toy truck
>police show up expecting a confrontation or a hostage situation
>therapist realizes shit is going fuck sideways and doesn't want to end up a face on a BLM poster and lies down and puts his hands in the air and tries to get the retard to do the same thing
>police see retard move and panic that he's going to shoot the black guy and shoots at him
>somehow they hit the black guy instead

It's like a perfect storm of stupid shit happening despite everyone having the best intentions. At least nobody died.
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>>30739674
>The best example of how bad it gets is the churches covering up child-rape by priests. It went on for ages, centuries probably and everyone knew and everyone covered it up.

They were helped in their coverup by the police. Where it first came to light was the 80's when a cop arrested a priest. His fellow officers made his life hell, but he asked them what he was supposed to do when he witnessed the priest in the act with a young boy.
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do police think literally any movement at all is 'reaching for a gun' or 'moving to kill'?
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>>30738875
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>>30739605
Blacks have shown they cannot handle the same rights as normal people.

Multiple countries includin Russia, China and the middle east know how to handle their blacks.

The USA is the only one silly enough to coddle/tolerate them.
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>>30737532
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>30740721
how does Russia treat their blacks anyway?
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>>30740531
Sometimes, and when that happens they give you all of .07 seconds to comply.
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>>30737532
man I can see exactly how this would go down.
>be middle class basketball american
>grandma gets pulled over for doing 35 in the 34
>reaches for her handbag to give the nice young officer her license and registration
>51 shots to the chest
>wtf grandma got murdered by a cop
>DA doesn't give two shits about pressing charges against cop and after cursory investigation no charges are filed
>happen to live in a jurisdiction where police officers are allowed to be sued for actions taken while on duty
>lawyer up
>cue police benefits walking door to door crying for donations for legal defense of poor innocent Officer Oink from the evil lawsuits being brought against him by dirty socialist gangbangers
>defense team has fifty grillion lawyers including the ghost of Johnny Cochran on loan from Hell
>your lawyer has suddenly become less than diligent in pursuing your suit, perhaps it has something to do with that gigantic bag of cash under the plaintiff's table
>somehow end up in jail from pursuing a civil case against the police
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>>30739544
>alone among the animals we became afraid of death, of future loss, and therefore became controllable

Yeah that's why humanity has never domesticated animals or trained them with the threat of punishment for disobeying.

Animals have no fear of injury or death so are truly free unlike we humans who are uniquely capable of fear.

With this as a starting position of course the rest of the video's conclusions must be logically correct!
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>>30741180
wait till you get to the end where his suggestion of what makes you 'free' from slavery is 'being able to see the cage'

...apparently that's literally it

it's idiot anarchist tinfoil rhetoric and I say this as a libertarian
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>>30737868
>They taught us in academy not to make tight groupings because it clots more easily
So they are literally teaching you to murder, because the ability to clot has nothing to do with the ability to stop the target, just whether they can survive afterwards.
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>>30737777
>$60,000/year
>guaranteed retirement for life
>paying them shit
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>>30738074
>I don't know why I didn't say anything right then and there,
Because you're a coward.
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>>30737532
ya sure, you accuse one and you'll get six cops who weren't even there saying he's a good boy and he dindu nuffin
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>>30735822
is that ravioli pie?
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>>30739674
>It went on for ages, centuries probably and everyone knew and everyone covered it up.
>centuries probably
Anon, let's get real here.
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>>30741371
Lol LEOs where I live start at $80k a year. In a year or two you're making 6 figures sitting on the side of a toll road writing tickets for people going 77 in a 75.
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>>30741219
Nah, I quit about a minute in after that line of crap. We've got a saying in the intel community: "garbage in, garbage out". Even if your logic/algorithm/process is perfect, if you input bad data you will get bad data from it. And I was certainly seeing bad data right at the beginning.
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>>30738015
>be labeled a racist even though it isn't a race thing

>niggers commit the most crime so most likely will deal with niggers
>statistically speaking will most likely take it out on niggers especially because nigs don't cooperate
totes
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>>30735774
Because allot of police officers are quite literally retarded, one of the major problems we face in New York City is the 12 pound trigger pull which has caused quite a lot of fuck ups.

In fact here are two targets both fired at by two sig sauers one NYPD spec the other not.

Guess which one is which.
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So I was the groundskeeper at a public housing project in the mid 90s. I pretty routinely (around once a month) had to chase people out of the laundry room, pool side area, the patios of our residents, etc. I used a sledge hammer to threaten them off and only had one person actually try to pull a gun out. 90% of the other people I booted out decided they had better things to do with their life then risk getting smacked around by a sledge hammer and left without incident.

These were generally the same people the police would be interacting with on nuisance calls, ie junkies, drunks, mentally ill people and combinations of those. I've never been in the military, not a cop, no paid training on how to handle or deescalate a situation. Even though I wasn't armed with a gun I had probably five people out of a couple dozen that legitimately tried to harm me and didn't just raise their voice for a few minuets and huff off.

Except for the crackhead who actually pulled out a gun I had zero thoughts of "fuck I better kill this dude before he kills me" even dealing with a combative individual.

My big question is, why the fuck are cops so afraid all of the time? Do they get trained to see life threatening danger in literally every action by a suspect? It honestly seems like the police are much jumpier and trigger happy than an average person would be, even though I thought training was supposed to have the opposite effect.
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>>30741687
One of them says Double Action Only, so you don't have to guess.
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>>30741301
Most targets are actually armed and bleeding out can be a factor during an extended shootout.

Shit you're biased. Statistics show the shooting of a thought to be armed suspect is rare compared to how many actually pose a deadly threat.
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>>30739544
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>>30739754
I don't remember the name of the movie the black guy served in nam and was underage when he did so other than that that's all the details I can remember he was shot outside a hospital but he lived.
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>>30741778
Because cops are not trying to scare people away to become somebody elses problem, they have to try to take them in.

They are not scared, but they are not going to fuck around.
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>>30740773
Jails.
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>>30737472
That wasn't a case of cop vs 2nd Amendment, it was a case of pussy-whipped anti-gun politician's husband vs 2nd Amendment.
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>be a tard wrangler
>get shot for trying to do your job
>autistic tard just sits there playing trucks while you take 2 bullets for him

Man I wonder what it's like to feel so unappreciated
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>>30740437
No, the perfect storm was Diallou. Everything that could have gone wrong in that situation did go wrong.
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>>30742450
If a man chooses a shitty job he should come to terms with having poop on his hands.

All men have control over their fate.
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>>30738131
>all that bullshit about the war on drugs

You seem pretty stupid desu. Addiction is its own punishment, an individual makes a stupid decision to do heroin, they deal with the consequences. But they still have to be able to make the choice. Only go after them when they commit a criminal act like theft or murder. Otherwise you're just supporting the imprisonment of non-violent drug offenders and supporting the growth of a powerful black market. The amount of money that could be made taxing and regulating the sale of drugs is insane and could be used to offset their negative effects.
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>>30735792
Fun story: The range I used to be a member of a few years back got shut down for over a year because someone who lived downrange found bullet fragments on their deck. There was a big investigation and it was decided that the range needed added safety measures before it could reopen. Turns out the bullet fragments were found on the same day that the local police dept. rented out the range for weapons training, and one (or more) of these mouthbreathers couldn't stop himself from shooting over the berm at the pistol range, which is about 20 yards long.

When the place reopened they had constructed this massive wall at the rifle range about ten feet out from the benches with holes in it to shoot through. You couldn't see anything except this bigass wall and you target through the hole. I didn't renew my membership.
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>>30738131
t. oinker
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>>30740559
kek
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No no OP, it's perfectly justified

That black guy was trying to call upon voodoo powers to kill the officers
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>>30737549
>traffic laws exist for a reason.
Yeah, gotta fund the war on drugs SOMEHOW.
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>>30737793
Suck that cop dick good and hard son and he'll reward you with the trampled rights and belly full of spunk you want so badly
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>>30737131
He was literally accidentally shot by some dumb spic who put zero time in at the range and probably wasn't even qualified to handle a rifle.
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>>30742531
That was a perfect storm of bad decisions. This was a perfect storm of stupid shit.

I kind of want to slap the shit out of everyone involved except the autistic guy and the black guy.

Especially whoever called the cops and said the guy had a gun
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