/akg/ - AK Generals

>Where can I find a 5.45 rifle edition

>>30646216
Build one

>>30646225
Way outside my capabilities

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Alright guys, not really sure what to do at this point. Add anther coat, or put some of that semi-gloss stuff on it and call it done?

It's slightly oranger and rough to the touch than it appears in the picture.

>>30646216
I'm seriously thinking about taking out a loan so I can get a quality '74, I don't care if it puts me into debt, I need one

>>30646194

Make the thread correctly next time faggot.

>>30646243
Put some fucking stain on it you mong

>>30646194
>Started thread early
>Improper formating
Let someone who can make it properly do it retard.

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>>30646306
It is stained anon, did you read my post?

this is what it looked like out of the box

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:^

>>30646319
Oh true. It definitely looks better than out of the box, but the stain looks really light.

Apply more

>>30646346
I think you could use a riced out 74, MSD.

>>30646346
>Foregrip on AK Pistol

Tell the ATF I say hi

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>>30646319
Back when the woodpile was still a thing at IWD, I got about three AKM LHGs for about $60. One didn't have any defects that I could discern at all. Been alternating between that piece and a surplus donkey dick for the past 5 years.

>>30646364
That's a SBR you dongus.

>>30646372
Why the fuck would you remove the stock on an SBR dickweed

>>30646355
I think I'm gonna do a coat of 2lb shellac mixture before I go to work, and see what it looks like when I get back.

>>30646371
I want a dong, but IWD doesn't make em yet, and idk if I could find a surplus one that would match my finish

btw am I supposed to buff the furniture smooth with steel wool between coats? I haven't been doing that

>>30646403
What is left side folding you raging autist

>>30646403
You're pretending to be retarded, yes?

>>30646403
>Oh no, it's retarded.
It's an underfolder, tardy.
Look closely, then lurk more.

>>30646403
It's an underfolder, fucknuts.

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>>30646403
You're trolling.
>>30646408
>idk if I could find a surplus one that would match my finish
That's why you refinish it silly, my set hardly had any finish left when I got it.
>btw am I supposed to buff the furniture smooth with steel wool between coats?
Yes, lightly.

>>30646403
10/10

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My Rifle is fine!

>>30646434
bummer. Well I guess I can start now, but i hope it's not critical

>>30646372
>>30646412
>>30646413
>>30646425
>>30646426
>>30646434
>>30646439

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucyRR9wy8e8

>>30632210
You could buy the arsenal SAM7SF, or find an owner who would sell his stock perhaps?

>>30633590
WHat kind of tin top is that on the left?

>>30639675
why dont you try....oh idk... actually oiling the fucker? slather that bitch in oil, and watch the marks disappear!

>>30639837
did you not buy Amber shellac? If you got uncolored shellac, dont expect it to become colored majically.

>>30640099
>UMPH!
What serial on the black ak100 series?

>>30640389
>buy more Makarovs.
I'd grab like 2-3 of those surplus bulgy maks with matching mag, case, and armorers papers for $329 if you have a C&R.

>>30640548
fuck akbuilder.

>>30640613
holy shit, I thoguht you were in a plane flying over a farm-field, then I saw the side mirror...... What car?

>>30646475
I bought amber shellac mane, heres how it turned out so far >>30646243

>>30646434
holy shit it feels so much smoother, I might not even use the polyurethane

Anyone have tips for sending $ to Putin-land?

>>30646508
>holy shit it feels so much smoother, I might not even use the polyurethane
dont listen to that faggit, never use steel wool on wood, the metal will inbed itself into the grains. Use sandpaper only, pref 240+ 'screen'-type, or sponge.

>>30646534
too late mane.

Do russians not have PayPal?

>>30646534
>the metal will inbed itself into the grains
that's why you don't press down like your mother did when she tried to smother you as an infant idiot.

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>>30646243
>Owning an AK in 1947+69
>Not hand carving your furniture out Chechen Wood

Is this a good deal?

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/571720544

$669 with $15 shipping. Comes with sling 2 mags and a bayonet.

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>>30646534
>never use steel wool on wood, the metal will inbed itself into the grains
Now this isn't a troll, but a genuine 'tard.

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>>30646595

Forgot pic. It's a WASR10 I think. I don't know shit about aks but I want one because I don't want an AR.

Also can I switch out the handguards so I can mount a grip, light, or optic on it?

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>>30646594
>chechen
pic related

I did almost pay for afromosia though

>>30646600
thats not bare wood like you suggested, you stupid cunt.

go back to autism general and goatfucking

>>30646729
I'm not
>>30646600


but I am the guy who's staining the furniture, and I never said I was putting steel wool to bare wood

>>30646729
>thats not bare wood like you suggested
An illiterate 'tard at that
>btw am I supposed to buff the furniture smooth with steel wool between coats
>Yes

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>tfw will never own a Vityaz
Saiga had just announced their 9mm model before they got b& from import too

How much does the saiga forend conversion typically cost?

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What tools will I need to build an AK-74? Is there a good resource anyone would recommend looking at?

I have what may be an odd question, Is there any way I can put a saiga forend on a WASR?

If no (or not practically) what other full length forends exist for the AKM?

>>30646806
They announced their AK107 models 18 months before, yet they never got here.

>>30646841
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrkPCn3LmaA

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What do you guys think is the most reliable and durable of the ak's? Was leaning toward arsenal at first, but a lot of people are saying they are a gamble.

>>30646845
Is this autistic bait?

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>>30646845
The Magpul Zhukov has a full version. I think it looks cool.

>>30646860
Every ak is a gamble if you didn't realize this yet you suck nut.

>>30646869
Just a newer ak owner who likes the look of the saiga forend.

>>30646871
Those are okay, anything other than that?

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>>30646886
You a mass shooter or something bud?

>>30646881
I understand that, what i meant was, for being a 1000$ ak, they have a pretty high rate of having issues.

>>30646869
Your post strikes me as more of that then the one you are replying to.

>>30646886
Stock saiga gas tubes are different, the handgaurds are screwed on through a hole that's not on your receiver, and will not fit your retainer.
You can get a decent romanian surplus furniture set for about $40 that'll have the dong

>>30646603
A little high but yes you can change the furniture to facilitate mounting shit to it also what state might not even be legal for you to own m8

>>30646881

>every ak is a gamble

What did he mean by this?

>>30646947

Wisconsin It's a rifle so it should be fine right? How much should an AK be and where can I get a cheap and good one?

>>30646893
No joke, that think looks cool as fuck

>>30646915
Well, that's because you are a faggot

>>30646966
Oh nigga you fine then for the bayonet included that's really not to bad I didn't see that in your first post.

>>30646953
The ak market in America is trash, it's filled with drama and every company has QC issues unless you pay out the ass for some preban ak or chink ak.
Of course you could build your own but for somebody who has never owned an ak and/or doesn't have the know-how of using the hundreds of dollars worth of tools it's just not a viable option. That doesn't mean you are getting a bad rifle, it's just not up to par in terms of quality as the ar market. I love my ak, no hate.

>>30647046
This guy gets it. The AR market is the way it is because of the explosion it experienced in popularity after Sandy vag

Once again, in case you missed the last thread, 5.45 REAR CONVERTED SAIGAS AT FLEET FARM FOR 449. GET THEM WHILE YOU CAN. They also had NPAPs for $400 but I think most places are already out of those.

About how much should it cost to have an AK kit assembled? I picked up a matching Polish kit with a Childers receiver about two years ago with the hope of eventually buying a press and all the tools needed to build it and learn something new, but I've never gotten around to it and kind of just want it built because I'm tired of having this nice kit sitting a box in my closet.

>>30647046

What if you get it from a trusted brand? Will you still possible get an unreliable one?

>>30647278
There is no 'trusted brand" when it comes to Ak's, that's his point. The only thing you could trust is a good builder at this point in time. However you could just ignore all of the bullshit and just buy an arsenal or a wasr or ddi and still get a rifle that is just fine, cants and bad finishes are just the nature of the American ak market.

>>30647301
This, and honestly you're far more likely to get an Arsenal or WASR that has straight sights and a good finish than not.

That said, the AK market is fucking doody right now. I'm very glad I got into ARs when I did.

>>30647278
Just get an NPAP, serbian stronk proven to remove kebab Albanians and filthy croats.

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> Hopefully my mags will be here by next Saturday.

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Just bought an Inter Ordnance AK M214, along with cheap mags, red dot, for grip, spam can ammo--all cheap. How fucked am I with the rifle though? They had bd QC issues when they were last located outside of florida. Have they improved?
Pic very much related.

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>>30647358
If you don't mind the extra weight and having to do some simple conversions, then VEPRs in 7.62x39 are a good choice. Especially considering that the price difference between a VEPR and a WASR is very small nowadays. Even without the conversions, the stock gun is pretty damn good.

>>30647358
Speaking of arsenals and wasrs, walked into gunshop today, $1450 for arsenal 74 and $1000 for a used wasr with a rediculous gap in the stock. No way ak market is down now

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>>30647480
> It's like you never lurk...
No you fucked up bad.

>>30647539
Splain, Lucy

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Sako vs. AK comparison

https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=4&f=92&t=79986

>>30647560
You really fucked up badly, they are the shittiest commercial ak on the market right now. You can bet on having unsquashed rivets and unusable sights and an optic rail so fucked up that it's practically perpendicular to the dust cover. Should have just dropped a small amount more for a wasr.

>>30647470
>>30647481
>>30647496
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>>30647543
>>30647581
valmet imports when

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What is the average price of BHO mags at our market right now? Plus, are they even worth it guys? I'm really good at counting rounds without putting conscious thought into it so I'm wondering if these guys have any merit with me anyways.
Pic related

>>30647358
>>30647301
>>30647606

So should I buy a WASR or is it going to possibly be a piece of shit?

I'm >>30646603

Should I just get an M&P sport?

>>30647775
If you don't have a rifle just buy the sport. It's the safest bet. If you just want an AK, convert a VEPR.

>>30646194
Anyone know a good brand of kalashnikov I can start off with that won't destroy the bank?
I know it's a general rule of thumb to stay away from American makers.

>>30647775
Get the fuck outta here with that m&p sport idea. Buy the Wasr if your only willing to spend 600$ for an am, if not find a Vepr or do the smart thing and save for an Arsenal. Veprs deliver the quality people want in an Arsenal but won't have some features, are hard to find, and require money to make look like rifle is fine

>>30647814
see
>>30647480

>join me, brutha.

>>30647840
nikka

>>30647775
Buy a wasr if you want an ak, but remember to EXPECT canted sights and maybe a bad rivet or two. You will get a functional, accurate rifle(I got a pre10/63 wasr10 and it came with canted fucking everything, I was pissed. Took it to the range and it out performed my m&p at 100 yards. but thats probably because I'm used to ak sights)
BUT, if you are just looking for a rifle period you might want to go with the m&p just because the overall quality will be leagues better.

>>30647788
Do this only if you have the money, it's not that much but the rifles you posted are both budget rifles and I assume you aren't looking for something over 700.

US Palm, Gen 3 Pmag, or Croatian LRBHO steel mags?

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>>30647814
Wasr or Arsenal. There's two roads to this people... Either buy a wasr and end up putting money into it equal that of an Arsenal or be a fucking adult and save your Sheckels like I did until you have enough for a 107/104. By the time you save up it'll be February and that's when you will start seeing them be imported again anyways.

>>30647606
Hmm. Well with unsquashed rivots they should fix this with a return. Also, I only wanted a plinker for within 100 yards fun.
I'm more worried about the thing blowing up in my hands/falling apart during operation.
Thanks for your input. Have you owned an IO AK47?

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Should I?

>>30647901
That will not be a problem with any ak besides IO and maybe an RAS. People don't complain about aks blowing up, they normally complain about aesthetic features like canted sights and finishes and such. You're good to go

>>30646444
Tell me the story of your Fallout 4 Edition AK. That thing is amazing! Sell it to me.

>>30646969
IIRC the Saiga handguard bolt goes into the gasblock, but I may be mistaken as I sold mine a while ago.

Carolina Shooter Supply sells a barrel mount so you could put the handguard on a standard AK, you just might have to drill an extra hole in the handguard.

http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/CSS_Saiga_rifle_Trirail_Quad_rail_forearm_VEPR_p/css-bc-small-flat.htm

There any good AK chest rigs out there besides the Chicom?

>>30648057
https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/finnish-m05-recon-chest-rig-with-four-magazine-pouches/26021

>>30648057
Yes but people seem to always come back to the Chicom. I was going to go the high end route at first but I couldn't find any that opened silently within a reasonable price.

>you will never get cheap Russian-made AKs

Why live?

>>30647901
Also, no I haven't owned an IP, there's a good reason for that. There are hundreds of stories of these things being just about the worse thing since burning alive while watching your family get raped in front of your eyes. I'm dead ass, don't get an IO, if you want you could watch AKOU4774 on YouTube, they do pretty reasonable torture tests(nothing like smashing it against a tree but like dropping it and casual usage) on the different AKs and they just now started to do the IO.
Can you guess what their first complaint was? Well if you didn't guess it was the fucking front sight being so out of spec you can move it with a snigjt nudge with your Fingers. That's really really really really bad. Just get a wasr if you don't want to spend the money and you will have a infinitely better rifle.

>>30648203
bought a new Saiga AK74 yesterday for $350

now one of my favorite rifles. it's extremely accurate, was very surprised with it

Is there a design reason AKs dont lock back when empty?

>>30646194
Did you tulafags see this 1992 krink kit?

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271423

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I know you guys get "looking for first AK, what do?" Threads all the time in these generals but I'm going to be a shit cunt and ask anyway.
I'm looking around the $600-800 area for spending, mostly been looking on gunbroker and atlantic, just to get an idea of what I like. I've narrowed it down pretty much to a High Standard, the C39, or an N-PAP. I'm really looking for ones with all wood furniture, full stocks over underfolders, and chambered in classic 7.62x39. I mostly intend on using Iron sights so I'm feeling a little iffy on the N-PAP since I hear the stock works better with optics in mind. I don't know too much about the High Standards and I hear mixed things on the C39s.
Are any of these definitively better than the others, or is there any other AK's out there I should also check out?

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>>30648498
New Kalashnikov Concern sivvy saigas for Russian market do have a bolt hold open.

>>30648657
That's nothing new. Real saigas have them too. It's not a last round bolt hold open either.

>>30648657
>>30648791
Sorry, when I said real saiga, I thought you had posted about Kalashnikov USA. My other points still stand.

>>30648618
Why didn't you read the thread and see if anyone answered the question that gets asked every thread? Then you'd be saving yourself time because you could be asking about a specific rifle instead of being a couple steps behind. Fuck I'm wasting time myself typing this shit.

>>30648498

It was just a little more complex to mass produce in the gun. Seems like it's becoming a thing these days though.

I just use magazines that hold the bolt back on the last round which is pretty nice.

>>30648618
Your 200$ away from a solid investment in an Arsenal. If you can fork over 800$ wouldn't you rather put that money into something you feel confident about?
I'm going to stop posting about my shillery before I get labeled as an arsenalfag because wasrs are just as fine

>>30648845
I did read the thread, I saw nothing on any of the 3 rifles I mentioned, that's why I asked.

>>30648120

That one is sold out but that website is great! Thanks!

>>30646319
Where'd you get that wood?

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I bought my WASR 3 months ago and the value is already up $100. Oh my god this election is going to make my shit so valuable.

>>30646860
They're all a bit of a crap shoot these days. You can't expect the flawless quality of an AR15 in these things anymore

>>30647301
there are certainly trusted brands they are just 2 or 3 times more expensive than the most expensive AK should ever cost

>>30648922
>tfw trump is winning in PA and FL
Even if trump wins and the value of all my shit goes down i'd be happy to have the potential for more russian imports

>>30649197
Trump is going to win but he's going to fuck over gun owners anyway I am sure of it.

>>30649218
Meh, apparently he has a CC permit and he's honestly doing whatever the NRA says to do.

>>30649279
Feinstein has a CC permit as well but she's almost Satan.

>>30649313
And she's also not endorsed by the NRA.

>>30647215
Hmm i called them and left i message asking if i could buy one online if that wont work ill call the local #s.

>>30649554
>>30647215
I got mine in Mankato for $350

My LGS has a new IO akm for $575. I am very tempted, it would be my first AK. Anyone have experience with newer IO rifles? I read QC wasn't the best about a decade ago. Should I go for it ?

>>30649625
>Mankato
Any left? Non an MN resident but maybe working at an FFL will coax them to ship it.

>>30649669
Just no
>please read the thread before posting.

>>30649674
I didn't get the display model. Not sure how many are left, sorry.

>>30649625
Was it just a non converted saiga?

>>30649669
Dude lurk more IOs are fucking pipe bombs.

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Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but what would be better for installing a scope rail to ensure it's level?

1) measure same distance from top of receiver rails at multiple locations along scope rail

or

2) set barrel to horizontal, adjust scope rail to horizontal

I don't have a truly flat surface I can trust, so I'm hesitant to try #2. I would assume the front trunnion ensures the barrel is horizontal with the receiver to within an acceptable margin of error, so I would think method #1 should work. Thoughts?

>>30649768
rear converted. pistol grip and even bullet guide

Mills Fleet Farm is out of their gotdam minds. These things are currently going for a minimum of $1200 on Gunbroker

>>30649669
>IO AKM
Yeah dude, go for it. A lot of people will talk shit, but they're just trying to justify their $1000 arsenals with bubbling finishes kek. All of the problems people are talking about only affect a small minority of their rifles, but anyway their warranty is rock solid and usually quick. Rifle is fine, buy it.

>>30646444
The more I see this rifle the more it impresses me

>>30649815
I'm full of shit. checked the receipt and it was $450

>>30649822
t. io retard trying to justify buying a destructive device

How do you guys feel about plum on a 47? I know it's not accurate but ive got a lead in a good deal.

>TFW will never have an RPK-74

>>30649822

No do not listen to this guy.

>>30650036
>>TFW will never have an RPK-74
IKTF
that said, I've seen it done with a 20" 5.45 Vepr.

>>30650036
Anon, if you like it, do it. Who cares.

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Who else besides apex has the shitty painted bulgarian wood stock sets or something similarly priced to refinish? They are out of stock.

>>30646243
The fact that you've been told several times not to use shellac and you're still trying shows you purposely want to make your rifle look like shit

>>30647762
The Croat ones are pretty shit. Yugo ones were OK. Standard surplus steel is still king.
Just shoot until the gun goes "click"

>>30649987
>>30650073
Arsenalfags BTFO. Dude get the IO. Me and my friends have shot thousands of round through ours and they look no worse for wear. Only time I had a malfunction was when I loaded the rounds into the mag wrong

>>30650338
>was when I loaded the rounds into the mag wrong

How does one accomplish such a feat?

>>30649822
>>30649669
see
>>30647480
>do eet

>>30650338

>loading an AK mag wrong.

Okay I get it you're just joking.

>>30647762
>I'm really good at counting rounds
If all you're doing is shooting at a range what the fuck do you need bolt hold open for

The point of the bolt holding open is to make it easier to reload either by stripper clips or inserting a new mag.

AKs aren't sensitive to reloading on a closed bolt, rather they were designed for it. A bolt hold open follower doesn't hold the bolt, it just acts as an obstruction which temporarily halts the bolt until you remove the empty mag, where the bolt then closes anyway and not only doesn't hold the bolt open the way you want it to, but damages your followers over time.

Do what you want but if you do so you'll be a huge faggot. Even more so than those fags who tilt AKs to the side to check for an empty chamber with a closed bolt.

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>>30650300
Shellac on these handguards

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>>30650371
>>30650366
Like this... Could've happened to anyone.

>>30650404
Clear

>>30650404

I really like the obvious feel of the bolt being held back on the last round.

>>30650422
How can one be so retarded

>>30650442
ikr who buys an hk

>>30650442
>Buying a cheap quality rifle like an IO AK
>Retarded
Pick one kiddo, I bet you don't even own an AK. Or if you do its a bubbled up $1000 Arsenal with canted sights. LMAO

>>30650468
You are trying way too hard, dude.

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>>30650468
Is this a new type of bait or something?

>>30650468
Actually I own two saigas I converted myself. Try harder faggot

>>30650468
Oh. And also, I've owned an armory, not that yu would know what that is

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>>30650527
>gets accused of trying way too hard
>tries even harder

I'm sticking around for this one

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Hey AKG,

I am doing a Saiga conversion on a 7.62x39 and need a new rear sight.

Which one do I need, 800m or 1000m sights? Links are appreciated, thanks.

>>30650557
Do you need to make shooty bangs out to 800 or 1000m?

Both sight leafs are extremely optimistic about .30 bloc's ballistics. Buy whichever one is cheaper. If they're the same price, flip a coin. You'll never come near the upper limit of either.

>>30646814
>saiga foreend
$25~ for a gas tube
$40-60 for a lower handguard retainer
$5-10 for an upper retainer clip
$50-75 for a cheap set of furniture including stock and grip.

>>30650550
I actually think someone else had that comment pointed at them, but ok.

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>>30650577
I just want to get the sight that is calibrated for 7.62x39. Thanks for the quick reply famalamajam

>>30650590
*** for a bolt on lower handguard retainer I should have been more clear

>>30650590
If you get surplus wood, you'll have to take some off so you do not need the clip. Polymer fit tight too

>>30650609
They both are.

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Seriously though, memeing aside, are SLR's decent rifles?

>>30650681

Absolutely.

>>30650590
So the front I can do by myself pretty much? What about the muzzle, it's threaded, right?

>>30650697
I don't recommend pressing off the gas block and front sight unless you have a shop press and do plenty of research and reading. My 7.62x39 is not threaded.

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>>30650681

They're very rock solid, just under Saigas in quality. One batch apparently had QC issues, but apparently Arsenal will take back your rifle if you encounter them and will unfuck/refinish your gun. And none of the QC issues that were brought up affected the accuracy or reliability of the gun.

Except for the trigger, Arsenal triggers are objectively dogshit. Get an AKT if you get one.

>>30650726
How would you compare the quality of VEPRs to Saigas?

>>30650697

While you should heed >>30650709 's advice, I'm really stupid and can populate a barrel.

The sky is the limit if you read enough and spend enough.

>>30650744

VEPRs are considered the top of the food chain, even better than Saigas or Arsenal/Bulgarian SLRs.

Unless you're doing some custom super gucci setup, you won't get much better than VEPR.

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The Saiga during conversion. I've had a few WASRs and a MAK90 and this Saiga had the most fluid and tight action of any AK I've held. They are worth the premium you pay to acquire one. A type 56 or a homemade rifle with lots of QC attention are the only competitors, IMHO.

>>30650773
Thanks, saw a converted saiga for $700 at my LGS and was wondering if I made a mistake buying my VEPR a week before that. VEPR has been great though.

>>30650404
Yeah I think I'll just stick to looking for some regular surplus steel. Just making sure I don't invest in some stupid steels

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>>30650853
>surplus steel
Truth. I also love M3 PMAGs and have a few early TAPCO 30s for dicking around. I'd sell my soul for some decently priced Bakelites or Hungarian tanker mags.

CHIMPSSSS

CHIMPSSSSSSSSSS

how can you tell the difference of a 4.5mm and 5.5mm .mil-issue poly folder besides 'look at the angle'? I know there were early 4.5mm poly folders, but how can you tell the diff?

Also, there is a guy on arfcom who is selling trueblack handguard sets for cheap. like $22 shipped cheap. Just dont be an asshole and buy them all up. Leave some for other /k/unts as well. Tell him the '2handguards n a cleaningrod' guy sent you.

>>30649788
Do both and split the difference? I think russians went off level with top of receiver. maybe try a lazer boresight and a level with builtin lazer?

>>30650609
just buy a RPK rear sight, you prolly gonna fuck up installing the FSB, so just plan ahead.

>>30650726
>Arsenal triggers are objectively dogshit. Get an AKT if you get one.
>actually recommending MIMshit that is hardened so much, it mauls your BCG and bolt tail to the point it cannot even slide out of the BCG upon disassembly
lol, you shoot like shit, adding an even shittier trigger that ruins your gun is not the solution. Stop recommending fuckin garbage like ALG, DDI, etc etc.

>>30651032
how did your life end up to the point where making poorly crafted bait posts on a 4chan thread seemed like a fine thing to do on a Saturday night?

>>30650982
Using a 90° straight edge on each side of the front sight can get the alignment pretty damn close. Can verify with laser bore sight.

>>30650709
Thanks. I'll probably buy the parts myself and ask a gunsmith to do the conversion.

Found plum RPK furniture for $85 shipped. NOS handguards and gas tube, used buttstock with some rust on back metal plate.

Do i do it and throw it on my RPK?

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Alright guys it's me again, I need some more help.
It's pretty shiny, but the texture is kinda rough and I don't wanna give it another coat of shellac. Is it time to apply the polyurethane?

>>30651280
yes

>>30651280
Hell yes.
It's not like you can't swap furniture again.
But that's a good deal.

>>30651282
keep going, its not quite yet afghan blonde.

maybe leave it in the sun for a few days?

>tfw I have an SKS but not old enough to purchase an AK in my state yet

>>30651324
I just want it to be orange mane, I don't have an AK-74 anyway

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My heavily, heavily modified m74 sporter.

>>30651328
what age does your state require?

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>>30651282
Why are you applying poly on top of shellac?

How many coats did you give it?
>I coated my wasr 20-30 times.
You can let shellac dry for an hour then recoat it. I found that using an old rag (or sock) applies the shellac much smoother than using a brush. You can also take some super fine sandpaper or steel wool and sand it down between coats. Buff it and it will be Gucci

>>30651328
are u not 16?

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>>30651282
>>30651339
You need to use amber shellac. Looks like you bought clear shellac. My Ak, here
>>30651363
was finished with 2x coats of red oak stain followed by 20-30 coats of amber shellac over the course of two nights.If you skip the stain and go right to the amber shellac, you'll get orange. My RPK has only 3 or so coats of amber shellac over the bare wood.
>i don't like this pic
>looks like what old guys on ak files take with their cell phone
>best pic i have that shows the true color of the wood

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>>30651363
>Why are you applying poly on top of shellac
Idk thought it could use a weather protective coat

>How many coats did you give it
Honestly lost track. Like 3 with Shellac cut with denatured alcohol, and then 1 coat straight out of the can before I left for work today

It's pretty rough and you see some fuckups in it, places where its too thick or where i had to dig out a hair, etc, but I'm liking it.

Yours looks beautiful; I don't want mine to be that dark but if that's 20-30 coats I guess I'm safe to try a few more

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>>30651440
shoulda did a red stain 1st then shellac with amber

>>30651427
It is amber shellac bruh

>>30651457
Maybe. You post that before? Those look nice

>>30651362
21 matey

>>30651440
Mine does have fuckups, I did it in the garage and kept getting little hairs in it. I kept adding coats so eventually most of the flaws got covered up because I figured out I was getting hair and shit in it.

You should do some amber shellac. The differences between poly and shellac is that shellac IMO looks better and more natural, but is prone to chipping. However it can be easily repaired by sloshing some more shellac over the top. Poly is harder but is also harder to repair. Shellac is weather resistant, I think extreme heat can damage it or something but you don't do both.

>>30651486
>It is amber shellac bruh
even he thinks its clear shellac. you better check the bag it came in.

>>30651519
>>30651534

I'll stick to amber shellac. I've heard several times through this thread and the last anons tell me to use it, despite it being the Zinsser Bullseye amber shellac out of the can, so I must have a number of coats to put on before it's done. I cut it to a 3lb mixture using denatured alcohol but I might start just using it straight out of the can.

>>30651519
>and kept getting little hairs in it.
its called steel wool, and thats what you get for listening to a goatfucker.

>>30651624
Then how do you do it anon

>>30651624
no they were dog hairs

>>30651793
>Then how do you do it anon
skip all the bullshit and use 100% no-additive Tung Oil?

There is no way to get true RussianRed, so why bother? You simply cannot artificially age shellac 40+years. Rit-dye jobs look like shit. MinWax Polyurethane jobs are distinctive noticible and look like shit. And BLO simply doesn't look right.

Next best thing is stain it the color you want it, better yet, lightly spray water all over the stock until barely wet, dip the stock in the stain color you want, let it dry in the sun for a few days, then proceed to slather that shit in "Transparent Clear" silicone caulking and wipe off all the excess.

>>30651986
Next time I'll try that, but since I'm already halfway through the process of applying coats of shellac, try not to spill your spaghetti at my choice of smoothing the coat

>>30651032
What the fuck are you memeing about?

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Oh god

>>30652100
Did you dig it out of the ground?

>>30651624
Why don't you suck his dick already, you clearly crave it

>>30652044
Steel wool is fine as a buffing media if you're not a mouthbreather like anon apparently is, it's pretty much the reason 0000 even exists and I have no idea how someone is so retarded they can't keep it from coming apart while buffing hardened shellac.
http://forums.finewoodworking.com/fine-woodworking-knots/finishing/buffing-shellac

>>30652100
Electrolysis, friend

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Looks pretty bad

>>30651986
> then proceed to slather that shit in "Transparent Clear" silicone caulking
Do NOT listen to this idiot, silicone caulk is a fucking nightmare to work with because of how thick it is and takes days to fully cure.

>>30652220
>>30652178
>>30651986
I'm just gonna continue doing what I've been doing and applying Amber Shellac and buffing with steel wool between coats

>>30652220
>silicone caulk is a fucking nightmare to work with because of how thick it is
>Doesnt know how to spread it like a PB&J, then proceed to wipe it off with clean painters rags, pushing it moderately and into the wood
stay mad ladyhands. and silicone cures in 30 minutes, and 24 hours to cure. read the fuckin label before you open your cockholster

>>30652248
It's what everyone else does, just make sure the coat has dried sufficiently before you buff it. After that, and I want the other retard anon to pay close attention to this part, WIPE OFF the surface before applying another coat. I think you'll have the mental capacity for something like that, but apparently it is beyond some people. It will certainly turn out smoother and more consistent than slathering on something that has the consistency of fucking half hardened hot glue and hoping it dries well over the following four days.

>>30652267
>can't even differentiate between safe-to-touch and cured
I am dead serious now, do not listen to anything this mental reject has to say.

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>>30652100
>holy shit there is a hole
At lest the other is nice. Hopefully you didn't pay for the other....

>>30652315
don't worry anon, I'm all good.

Bout to put on my 5th coat of shellac on this thing (after a nice steel wool wipedown of course) and hit the sac. Will post more tomorrow

thanks for the help folks

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I think I asked this in this thread or the last but is this too much space? That's as far in as the stock will go

>>30652593
yes, it looks like shit. you shoulda trimmed that shit off so it sat flush with teh rear of the receiver, and sanded down some of that fucktardedly huge bump you are showing us there.

>>30652666
thanks satan. I didn't make it though, what am I supposed to trim or sand?

>>30649788
Use method #1 with a caliper since the receiver rails are parallel to the barrel anyway.

Use the rear rivet as a pipivofor adjustment. Be sure to clamp it in place, recheck measurement, then drill and rivet one hole. Recheck measurement again before moving on to the other

>>30652696
*Pivot for adjustment

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>>30651363
You should really get a better camelbak anon. Those Condor ones break relatively easily with intensive use

>>30650557
Can I get summa that Popeyes tho?

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>>30652318
>sks
>bolt action
>289.99

Where to start?

Are there any tools available that will let you pin in the gas block/front sight post without using a press?

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>>30652758

Are you lost buddy?

>>30646194
What do you guys think about this?
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/570032116

WASR 10/63 for $530.
Should I bid?

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>>30653689
Oops. Forgot pic

>>30653691
I was trying to get my brother to bid on that exact auction, instead he went out and bought a RAS47. AR gags never learn.

Not bad, bidding looks competitive. Honestly I'd wait for a WASR to pop up locally on armslist or something.

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>>30652593
srsly guys I need to know how bad that is and if it's fixable

>>30654619
hit it with a hammer till it goes all the way in

>>30654632
No, it's all the way in

>>30654639
Use a concrete floor
That's that I did

REMEMBER - it is supposed to have a 2mm gap. Stocks should NOT be flush with the rear of the tang.

They have 2mm thick gauges AT THE FACTORY to space it correctly. But stupid Americans think that it is a mistake when they see a gap.....

>>30654662
I guess that makes me a stupid american, but my romanian rifle has no gap at all between the stock and the trunnion

>>30648845
WASRs and Arsenals are sold out and they won't be imported again for a long time. Why does no one seem to understand this?

>>30654902
Because wasrs are still relatively cheap and arsenals are also comparatively worth the cost as well, how do you not understand that?

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>>30655020
is dat sum Afghan war Mustard sling?

>>30650557
I believe that 7.62 AKs used the 800 meter one originally. But it is 7.62x39, anything past 500 meters is entirely useless so just use whatever you like.

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I'm trying to collect 1 quality gun for every common US caliber. How much more common is 7.62x39 than 5.45? Twice as common? Ten times as common?

>>30655082
both

>>30655095
Not doing both yet. After 7.62x39 or 5.45 comes 12g.

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>>30653081
ZASTAVA M91 WHEN!!???!?!??!
RRRREEEEEE

>>30654619
7.62 is almost exponentially more common than 5.45

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>>30655134

>>30650609
The leafs are the same, the only difference is the slope on the rear trunnion.

>>30655134
>ZASTAVA M91 WHEN!!???!?!??!

Never. Century has confirmed this as well as Zastava. With the loss of cheap x54R combined with the wet fart success of the M77 PAP and M90 PAP, they're not interested.

>>30655082
At this point in time 7.62 is more common than 5.45, it will be(unless the import ban on Russia and 7n6 is lifted) more common in a decade from now. And I mean, you're probably just gonna be blasting watermelons anyways so you also get to shoot cheaper ammo with 7.62.
>Tfw will never get cheap 5.45 ever again ;-;

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>>30655259
:(
I am a sad spic.

Better go get a vepr in 54r then...

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What is plum?

I can't tell if it's the camera or what, but there seems to be 2 distinct types of plum furniture.

One is very matte, frosted almost, flat chocolate rose colored

The other is wetter looking, darker closer to a true plum color

This correct or is it just a trick of the camera?

Pic is of the matte frosted type

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WHERE CAN I BUY BULK AMMO WITH THE FASTEST SHIPPING?

I'm spoiled on Amazon prime and don't want to wait a month to get my order.

pls respond!

>>30655414
The sell bulk ammo on amazon?

>>30655414
First, Fuck you and your bullshit spoiled ass expectations.

Second, Fuck you for demanding it of us.

Third, Fuck you because Fuck you.

Why would I recommend a place I respect and enjoy using to an asshole like you, knowing that you're going to be a demanding and unreasonable asshole about everything?
Why would I want to afflict a respectable business with an asshole of a customer?

>>30655275
5.45 is basically the same price as 7.62. Just less common.

>>30655414
luckygunner with Fedex always arrives within 3 days for me

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>>30650982
>>30652696

My thank senpais

>>30655614
And it won't be the same price in the coming years.
It doesn't have as much commercial backing as 7.62

>>30651282
Regardless kf how it turns out, I like how it looks now
I guess I'm a sucker for blondes

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>>30652100
>>30652215
Wait, what's wro
>that's not brown paper and cosmoline

>>30652593
Can someone please tell me if that's a problem, it's in as far as it can go and I just wanna put the screws in and be done with it

>>30655448
No. But amazon prime gives 2 day shipping on things which is great.

>>30655583
lol I don't think I asked anything all that strange senpai I just want to know which ammo site ships the fastest whats wrong with that?

>>30655751
>luckygunner
thanks. Looks good.

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>>30656050
You get those mags shipped out yesterday ?

>>30646243
That's gonna look really fuckin good when it's done

>>30656259
They all ship within a few days. Ammo must be shipped ground, so there you have it.

>>30654619

Just trim around the sides and the end of hte part that sticks into the receiver. I did the same with my furniture set from IWD.

>>30656331
I posted in the last thread that the post office closed early. I took work off Monday so I'll ship them then

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>>30652676
post up pics and I'll show you. every angle.

>>30652696
>receiver rails are parallel to the barrel anyway.
not always, esp if it didnt come with pre-drilled front trunnion holes.

>>30653691
>no dimples
>pic related
if it dont have dimples, it aint worth bringing home.

>>30655020
>Macro/Flower mode
>Small center square focus
>Have decent bright lighting, and turn down your exposure one tick (-1/3 usually)
>use a tripod
bam, instant pro. Now test it out on that VZ26/23 you got in there.

>>30655082
So basically you want a whole glock collection, a Colt AR15A4, and a Saiga AK103 and AK105?

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>>30656948
Oh shit my bad, I did not see that.

>>30655361
It depends. There are a lotttt of variations depending on how they decided to mix the polymer that day. From Almost transparent shiny red to translucent gloss bloodred to matte purple to gloss dark plum to matte almost brown to shiny black to matte black. No two lot numbers look alike, and Tula and Izhmash have their own styles to them.

>>30655755
>Those rivet mushrooms
holy fuck anon.... did you even use the right rivets? And I hope you went off the top of the dovetail, not the flat top of the scoperail....

>>30656259
gunbot.net
ammoseek.com
slickguns.net
Now never post that stupid picture ever again.

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>>30657034
What optic mount is that? I think I might need it.

Should I buy a Vepr Super in .223 or wait for a normal Vepr in .223? All I would do to either is put a 1-6x scope on it, although I'd convert a normal Vepr to standard AKM furniture.

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>>30657089
Aimpoint pro with Arsenal Sm-13 would recomend if you like a one piece mount.

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>>30657141
I can't tell if that's lower than my QRP mount or not. I need the lowest shit possible.

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>>30657181
then you want an rs regulate.

Are AKs still luck based when it comes to not getting a turd?

>>30657303
Yeah that's not gonna work with my zenitco dust cover rail system.

>>30657343
Oh yeah, missed that. This is probably a better option though, if you really want to be as low as possible.

>>30657181
Nah it's just the standard mount with the riser removed that come with the pro.

>>30657322
only if you buy from IO and Century. You get what you pay for.

>>30657378
>impling DDI isn't a luck of the draw as well

>>30657181
>>30657089
>he fell for the Zenit meme

>>30657343

Why put a rail over your dust cover rail if you want the lowest rail possible?

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>>30657435
I love it.

>>30657482
>nothing even attached to the forward rail

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>>30657469
Do what now?

>>30657497
I put a light on it when I feel like it.

>>30657529
That sounds worth it. Not.

>>30657514

>ask for low as possible rail
>someone suggests one
>that won't work because I have a dust cover rail

Either get rid of the dumb dust cover rail or use it.

>>30657538

Aw fuck you were looking for a mount not a rail. I'm retarded.

>>30657582
You're still right if you ask me.

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>>30657601

I do love the RS Regulate mount.

>>30657538
You do understand that the zenitco dust cover replaces the old dust cover right? There is no rail on top of a rail and I never asked for one.

Let me rephrase it for those of you confused, I want the lowest picatinny mount possible for an M68.

>>30657535
It's worth it to me, not your money so don't worry about it.

>>30650681
I have that exact same model and I fucking love it. I highly recommend snatching one if you see a good deal or if you have the money.

9mm dedicated AK or 9mm AR that takes glock mags
>i need a small caliber fun gun

>>30657813
C X 4
X
4

>remove all toasters

>>30657822
its almost hi-point tier in looks

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>AK's are banned in my state
>Have to settle for VZ
:(

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>>30657873
nah, it's FUTURE

>>30657892
>AK's are banned in my state
Where?

are slr107s going to be imported again?

>>30657892
VZs are just fine, I like the look of yours.

>>30657946
next year, if we survive the elections

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>>30657937
Maryland. AK pistols are legal and so are SBR's, but I'm 19 so I'm shit out of luck with both of those options.
No gifting either, because to own a handgun, you need a "handgun qualification license" and you need to be 21 to obtain one.

>>30657956
Trust me I love my VZ, but since I was a kid I always wanted an AK. There's a LOT less options out there for forends and other parts, propriety mags, etc..
I need to get a different top front rail (probably will end up getting a whole set) that is made of aluminum so I can actually trust it to hold an optic.

>>30657076
The mushroom caps are inside the receiver and these ends look like every front trunnion rivet I've ever smashed, is there a problem?

And what's wrong with measuring off the top of the scope rail? There's a 5±.03 mm difference between that and the top of the dovetail along the length.

New thread?

New thread

>>30658070

>>30658070

>>30658070