Alright /k/ it looks like the time has come. Shit is hittin

>>30633804
CNN reporting now. Turkish PM says coup is underway. Bridges closed down, tanks and infantry on streets, reports of gunfire.

Videos of F-16s flying low over Ankara.
https://twitter.com/HazalKoptagel/status/754035715709739008

https://twitter.com/MuratKmr16/status/754037447626002433

COUPE D'ÉTAT, IT'S FUCKING HAPPENING.

And all the TV news channels are still busy with the France terror attacks

Holy shit. Today is a day of happenings. First the whole day of rage bullshit, then nice, now this.

JUST

>>30633804
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/turkey-low-flying-jets-and-gunfire-heard-in-ankara1/

Tanks reported near the airport too say BBC

Good, Erdogan needs to go.

REMOVE ERDOGAN

Will the coup peeps be better or worse than Erdogan?

Also I thought he had kicked out anyone that didnt like him from the armed forces.

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About fucking time. If the next government is friendlier with the Kurds, I bet CIA was also involved then

>>30633804
Kebab removes itself

>>30634028
Shoo shoo, Turkroach

>>30634014
>next government is friendlier with the Kurds
You don't know shit about Turkey do you, laddy?

FIRST TURKEY THEN THE US

Helicopters firing on the police hq in Ankara, with sound.
>>>/wsg/1188314

Reports are appearing that political leaders have been detained and that police officers are being arrested.

ohh my boner is ready I'm willing to bet they are Russian backed as a coup is not something nato would want.

>>30633993
Yes and wouldn't be the first time Turkish military has removed a lunatic from the power. They'll likely just revert some of the damage that was done (i.e revoke some controversial laws that Erdogan has pushed through over the past few years) and then call for new elections. The whole process should take about a year tops, assuming of course that US doesn't medle into Turkish internal afairs by supporting Erdogan on this

>>30634071
>You don't know shit about Turkey do you, laddy?
By friendlier, I mean not starting a shitfest and reopening scars with the Kurds in Turkey.

Vid of a Helicopter firing on Ankara.

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754052241183674368

>>30633993
>Will the coup peeps be better or worse than Erdogan?
Impossible to tell at this moment. But I'm not optimistic.

>>30633882
Nothing happened during the day of rage

>>30633993
If they just shoot him the head and hit the baths, it would be worth it.

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>>30633804
Holy shit, it's happening. Fuck, I hope my case of .223 shows up before WW3 starts.

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Gunfights on the bridge, a police special op training center got blown up

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Tanks at Ankara Intl. Airport.

Anyone know what kind of tank it is?

>>30634177

From behind it looks like some model of a Leopard 1.

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>>30634177
Policemen being disarmed by military.

>>30634177

Leopard 1.

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it's habbening

will this day be remembered as the day of HAPPENING in history books?

>>30634130
Pretty sure it's just the largely secular army not liking Erdogan's descent into fanatical islam. It's not the first time they've done it.

Fuck this, Erdogan is shit but he's the legitimate elected leader of Turkey. I hope the coup fails, the army has no right to remove the democratically elected leader chosen by the people.

>>30634172
Whoa, calm down kitten. Military coups are a national tradition in Turkey and they will be back to business as normal soon.

Can Turkey Military rush our nuclear silos and overpower the US defenses? I know it would be impossible for them to launch one without the help of Obama but would be possible for them to steal a nuke?

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>>30634192
>>30634201
damn you were fast

>>30634216
what drugs are you on we haven't had nukes in turkey since the 60s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y60wDzZt8yg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y60wDzZt8yg

>>30633804
FUCKING FINALLY!
I was getting sick of Erdogans Face.
Hopefully the turkish army will restore what Kemal Atatürk once started.

If a coup were to happen here, do you think they would take over and shutdown CNN, MSNBC or FOX?

>>30634212
>democratically elected leader chosen by the people.
something something all threats foreign and domestic.

I would bet the military feels that Erdogan is a direct threat to deomocracy in the nation, and they're just doing their duty to protect the country and democracy. At least that's what their PR peeps will start with.

>>30634216
yes

>>30634071
The new government will likely be far more anti-Isis, with Fuck Kurds at least moved down to a lower priority.

>>30634204
THIS

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>>30634233
there were attempts to shut down some social sites, but they seem to be working fine albeit slower than normal

>>30634233
>MSM

Lmao. Unlike Turkey we have a lot more news sources than those shit holes. Plus live streaming just regular people

>>30634237

That's a load of shit and they know it. This is the military telling people that they don't like the leader that they chose so they are taking power instead.

What's the point of voting if the Army is just going to chose who you are allowed to pick anyway.

>>30634132
Depends. They voted Erdogan into power, no doubt they'll happily vote someone like him back in again.

>>30634227
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_sharing

I could be wrong but from that wiki as of 2009 Turkey has 90 nukes.

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APC and I think that's a Patton blocking a street.

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more soldiers on the ground, taksim square

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>>30633945
>>30633965
This

>>30634132
Also this
Erdogan is one of the most freedom hating "presidents" in out time. He blocked Twitter in the Turkish internet, and then he arrested literally everyone who said bad things against him. He even let his corrupt police drag out youths from internet café's and arrested them for "president cursing" or some shit.

He is in the conservative Islam party, and you can imagine what that shit could be.
He supported religious "education" with tons of tax money to manipulate the people. And then he chopped down Atatürk's forest to make a huge ass palace.
While the Turkish people starve and still support this oppressive piece of shit, erdogan was gradually taking total control of Turkey by literally doing what >>30633993 said.

So yeah, thanks for the
>Darbe

>>30634267
>Turkey launches all of its nukes into Russia
>no more Putshit
>world is at peace
>US can finally disarm
>no more weapons
>no more guns
>no more police shootings as a result
Please Turkey you guys can do it.

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Black smoke from blast in Ankara

>>30634215
This would be the 4th lol
>ARE YOU EVEN TRYING USA?

So, the apology for downing the Russian jet was most likely a play by Erdogan to get Russia support him. I think he knew that this would happen.

>>30634216
The Turkish army is actually pretty professional and actually smart. There's no way they'd jeopardize NATO or American relations by seizing nuclear weapons for themselves.

US military sources: US-Turkish base at Incirlik, outlying bases ordered to “Force Protection Condition Delta;" missions halted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkapTTUSptg

>>30634212
>Fuck this, Erdogan is shit but he's the legitimate elected leader of Turkey
Just because they are populary elected, doesn't mean they will not be tyrants. Erdogan was already going down the pth of tyranny, and the army, and the people who aren't sucking Islamic Theocratic dick, were tired of his shit. Not to mention his actions will not only be a threat for US interests in Syria, they're also a huge risk of getting us into an unwanted conflict with foreign regional powers. Disagree all you want, tyrants are not to be elected.

Firefights in Istanbul

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HD Stream and chat

Comfy

Dot

Zone

>>30634260
Removing shit presidents is a Turkish military tradition. They've done it like 4 times already and have become frighteningly efficient at it.

Plus they've only ever mobilized when civil disorder started to get out of hand, and considering Erdogan just restarted a goddamn civil war for very little reason...

>>30634215
Let me dream for a little bit.

>>30634212
The military is the final guarantor of secularism in Turkey. It's their system, so coup has slightly different connotations in such a case.

>>30634286
>Unironically wanting to start WW3 with nukes
Fuck you, I'm not letting the Turks nuke Armenia

Leopard 2 tanks are rolling in Instanbul.

>>30634314

You are criticizing Erogan for being a tyrant and yet you are literally okay with the military acting on its own and denying the people their right to pick their own leader? Even if the military is less shit they are actually the definition of a tyrant, they exercise political control without being granted the legitimate authority to do so by the Turkish people.

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Bank run in progress.

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>>30633804
>turkroach habbening
>no more shekels for MAC
>tim on suicide watch

wonder which ammo he will shill for now, does he go full Jew for IMI or back to slavshit steel

https://twitter.com/bm21_grad/status/754052691148537856

https://twitter.com/bm21_grad/status/754052691148537856

https://twitter.com/bm21_grad/status/754052691148537856

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>>30634313
>>30634267
>>30634227
>>30634216
Yes, US does

>>30634334

How are people okay with this? So the rules in Turkey are "democracy is okay as long as you do what the army wants"? That's not democracy m8.

>>30634354
The sandwich hookers are back.

>>30634362
Yea I asked if the military can overpower US forces. I have no idea why people assume I was talking about Turkey having nukes.

>>30634349
If it's like every other Turkish coup they'll hold elections once they get control.

>>30634366
Ataturk set this shit up. It's how they do things.

>>30634377

That doesn't really make it better since apparently people are only allowed to vote for candidates that the Army is okay with. They have elections in China but only communist party approved candidates are allowed to participate, this is basically the same shit.

Ugh and I was hoping to buy a CZ75 TS as well, now what?

>>30634366
It's Kemalism, dude.

Ataturk knew Islam was a threat, and that it should not be in control of government.

Meh, as long as they stay in nato, i could care less.

Bonus points if the new admin keeps splashing russian jets though, shit is halarious.

>>30634366
This isn't black and white. It's not a matter of democracy =good, therefore any elected president = good. Erdogan is religious cock running his country into the ground with Islamist bullshit. To a lot of people it would be preferable if he was removed, democratically elected or not.

>>30634366
Usually because the coups WORK. The military always steps in when the ruling government's popularity is at its lowest and their intervention generally puts a stop to whatever current civil conflicts are going on at the time. And they've generally been pretty good about handing power back to the government after a couple years.

>>30634375
They probably can, but see
>>30634392

>>30634399

I don't really care, if their system is set up so that the army has final say over who the people pick as their leader then it's a shit system. Is a military dictatorship parading as democracy.

>>30634408

Actually it is black and white, if he is shit then he should be removed in an election. Simple as that.

>>30634418
And if the junta restores more freedom to the people?

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what's the sky king status currently? we store nukes in Turkey...

>>30634399
Damn
There are some Nations which could really use this

>>30634437
It's gotta be fun to be on the turkey base now.

>>30634388
So you think the army should just stand by if a religious fanatic is ruining the country?

>>30634437
Sky king is a meme.

>>30634418
dictator ships aren't 100% bad, keep in mind this is Turkey not America. Imagine if America was run by the Westboro Baptist church and every decade or so the US military steam rolled and held elections so that fags and women who wore shorts weren't burned alive.

>>30634349
>I don't know Turkish coups the post
There is always another election. And you could give a thanks to the military for saving their own people falling into their demise of an islanic theocratic dictatorship. You'd think there's no such thing as an idiocracy, do you? Changing the Constitution to give yourself more power, censoring and arresting people for disagreeing with the government, and even forcing religion through the public education system, and even starting another war inside your country because you don't like an ethnic group of citizens is not democracy. The military are secular and will remain so, they won't idly wait until a eictator is established, no, they nip it in the bud. I bet ou would support the tyrants if the national guards upholds their constitutional oath and take down a popular elected tyrant without respecting the wishes of the American People. The Turkish military took an oath to their constitution, and they are there to see it preserved, not changed to create a dictatorship.

>>30634436

Ends and means, if they return more freedom to people then great, but that doesn't mean they have the right to dictate to the people who their leader is going to be.

>>306344
depending who you ask.

But yes erdogan has done a lot of damage to turkey. Only the fact that he startet to fingerfuck russia is a big NoNo....

>>30634437
U.S. citizens in #Turkey advised to shelter in place and stay indoors, State Dept. says.

>Trump is pro this
>Hillary is anti this
Okay should I be for this coup or against?

>>30634418
It seems to be working okay for them. Compare it to the rest of the shitholes in the region. In an ideal world they'd be an Athenian democracy or some shit, but in an ideal world there wouldn't be this whole Islam nonsense going on.

>>30634435
>elections in a state run by a corrupt tyrant
sure will be a fair and balanced election that will empower the people's choice my dude

>>30634435
When a democratically elected representative does the shit Erdogan has done, damage control is an urgent necessity. It would be foolish to wait and hope to remove him with an election. Plus with a coup you can totally purge the government of all the cancerous shit hurting the country.

Guys, how do you organize a coup without anyone not noticing before its too late?

>>30634462
All of this. Venezuela would be a very different place right now had there been a system like this for them.

>>30634463
Right and not right is opinon.

I would argue that he sucessfully suppressed dissent, and stifled speech to where he was no more a democratically elected figure than saddam was.

>>30634435
Did you forget the time where he started a fucking civil war in his own country the moment it looked like his party was going to be voted out?

>>30634484
This is what the Turkish military does. Hell they probably run drills on it.

How did Erdogan come to power in the first place if he's such a garbage leader?

>>30634313
I wonder if tanks have blinkers

>>30634484
Erdogan is on vacation.

https://twitter.com/neontaster/status/754061142373244928

Civilians cheering passing military vehicles.

>>30634473
For, the guy in power now is a mudslime.

>>30634473
For the coup.

>>30634501
See
>>30634493

>>30634366
In America you have the supreme court who decides if the elected president is going beyond his remit and acting unconstitutionally, in Turkey that's the army's job.

>>30634477
>>30634493

Well in that case I'd at least wait to see what the reaction was by the people, but so far I would argue that the military has absolutely no legitimate authority to remove civilian leadership that was chosen by the people, even if they are better rulers than Erdogan was.

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A reminder that Islamic countries cannot handle democracy.

Islamic countries need dictators otherwise you get the disasters like current Libya, current Iraq, and current Syria.

Take the bleeding heart bullshit back to whatever college you brought it from.

>>30634484
Yea Military leaders are chosen from the smartest people in that nation. Politicians are chosen from how easily they are to corrupt. There is no way Edrogan could have stopped this coup.

>>30634501
Islamic-flavored populist rhetoric.

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Soldiers in the TRT TV station.

>>30634499

I'm not saying he isn't shit, I would have been glad to see him go if the military weren't circumventing the democratic process and removing a leader that the Turkish people chose.

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TRT1 anchor says TV scripts approved by military who took over newsroom, she just referred to #Erdogan as traitor

>>30634501
He actually started off as a pretty decent guy, but grew increasingly paranoid that his close supporters would overthrow him and eventually fell in with the islamists. He used a lot of legal manipulation and pandering to the uneducated and poor islamists in the countryside to stay in power as the president.

>>30634549
Stream ?

>>30634470
It's solid advice. The biggest danger right now is getting shot by a scared cop while the military is going around disarming people and taking control before anyone can damage infrastructure or do anything foolish.

Second biggest danger would be getting murdered by religious fundamentalist that blame the west for the military taking power from a religious fundamentalist leader.

FUCK YES

>>30634549
Lmao. Goes to show how easily the media changes their narrative. Fucking robots

>>30634334
Anyone surprised all the anti obama military folks havent tried this shit here?

>>30634462
>yfw the Cockroach military is more patriotic than your own

God I feel like a bitch for joining themuhreenz

>>30634502
Well according the video they have hazards

>>30634559
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZNQw440yA4

>>30633804
Reports of Erdo under arrest

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>>30634546
This is the real world. Check your blessing heart idealism at the door.

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>>30633804
Such a shame this is happening in Turkey. Such a shame.

>>30634577
Thanks

Shold I buy stocks on Monday?

>>30634503
It's going to be a long one.

>>30634518

Except the Supreme Court doesn't have the authority to remove the president from power, and it can only strike down laws that have been challenged.

>>30634597
Yes, buttstocks

>>30634212

The Turkish military has, historically speaking, staged coup's against insane religious leaders in order to bring a more secular government.

I hope they succeed, we may have a US ally that isn't an enemy of freedom

>>30634501
Most of Turkey is illiterate steppe dwellers who can't run a country.

The country has always been run by the small, Greek elite on the Mediterranean coast.

The point of the Kemalist system is to keep that elite in power without too much damage to democratic institutions.

>>30634561
How about the rest of the army deciding whether they want to support the coup or not?

>>30634349
>government taking your country in the direction of Islamic extremism
>his foreign policy exposes the people to greater risk of terrorism than has existed for decades
>he literally restarted a civil war
>imprisoning journalists and political opposition
>he's actively working to replace established military leadership with his loyal stooges

Let's just vote him out guys.

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>>30634572
Its too late for us...

>>30634585

This isn't idealism, either you believe people have a right to choose their government or you don't. I don't think it's idealistic to believe that they do, since plenty of countries manage to remove shit leaders democratically.

>>30634570
To be quite honest, in the grand scheme of things, Obama is a fairly decent, if unremarkable President. Worse and more malicious people have sat in the Oval Office.

>>30634618
Just like Venezuela, amirite.

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i just watched the announcement on trt by the coup group
they are calling themselves "yurtta sulh konseyi" which means "peace at home council" which comes from the words of atatürk "peace at home, peace at world"

they said that the army has taken control
there will be courts built to judge the akp government and that they were corrupt etc (all the shit you know)
a new constitution will be drafted that does not seek ethnical, secterian differences. a constitution that under kemalist principles
they said that terror operations will continue and gain speed
and there was a curfew until second orders

there was more but i can't recall the exact words, the gist of it is that the kemalist secular army elements have started attacking islamist government and police elements
some police are calling to attack the army, akp people are calling on civilians to attack on the army, there also seems to be some inter-army conflict

deus vult, make turkey great again
picture related, erdowie in the middle

also turk here, ask any questions

fire fight
https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754062224331800576

>>30634614
What's that? Are they married? I'd totally fuck the hottie on the right.

>>30634588
>Turkey is not bro with Russia
>admits Armenia genocide but will not pay reparations
>EU is now Europe + Russia
>US + UK v. EU is the next WW
Who do you think will win?

>>30634610

So do the people of a country not have the right to choose their leaders? Him being shit is completely beside the point.

>>30634349

So by your logic, if a despot was elected by the people and then ordered federal law enforcement and special military units to start detaining Americans and placing them in re-education camps, you'd feel the military should stop it?

>>30634559
http://www.trt.net.tr/Anasayfa/canli.aspx?y=tv&k=trt1

official site, I was sending you a periscope.tv link but it got taken down

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>>30634473
probably pro, Erdogan is a fuckhead.

>>30634632
No its just a white guy turning into an asian female...

>>30634629

Kek, so you'd rather have the military dictate to people who is going to lead them?

>>30634578
There were also reports of Erdo flying out of country and flying to Istanbul

>>30634631
Any info on how big is the split in the millitary?

>>30634637
Yep , I only wish more "democratically elected" leaders were overthrown like half of latin America.

>>30634651
It's worked better for Turkey than any other system has worked in any other Middle Eastern country.

Ataturk knew what he was doing.

>>30634638

I'd feel that the people should stop it through the legal means that exist, and only if those have been abolished then I'd okay a coup of some kind.

>>30634607
Everyone in the military that isn't solid on the coup are sitting on their hands and not fighting people that..

1) They work with
2) Are going to win and run the country next week

So.. No, there's no danger to expats from the Turkish military, beyond the obvious danger that they are performing security operations and it's dangerous to get in the way.

The good advice remains: Stay where you are, don't get involved, don't go outside.

>>30634630
Blessed

>>30634659
1 star general and lower

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>>30633804

Why do they use the shittiest upgrade of tanks at military parade?

>>30634651
Oh, so you rather have a leader turn into a tyrant throughout his term and ensure a dictstorship? Becsuse you're a fool to believe he has been consistently popular.

>>30634666

Somehow other countries manage to not have coups all the time and still don't go to shit.

>>30634637
Yes. However the military has a responsibility to protect the people of their country from tyrants, even if those tyrants are elected.

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we saddam now.

>>30634657
Military controls Istanbul, if he goes there he's done

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sl4XCVmoXg

>>30634659
They are waiting for the most crucial information. "WHO" made it.

>>30634684
Those countries typically aren't in the Middle East.

>>30634682

If he actually removes the mechanisms by which he can be legally removed from office then sure, force is fine. But they could still have elected somebody else.

>>30634692
He was denied landing in Istanbul and is seeking asylum in Germany.

>>30634641
https://www.periscope.tv/yasin_erdogan/1gqxvBepzZAxB

>>30634667

Nigga this is the reason that we have the second amendment. Once the happening happens, there is no legal means of recourse. No petitions, no media frenzy, no protests. The only thing those things will do is get you imprisoned and probably executed.

No, sometimes a violence must be employed by either the people or the military to ensure the safety of the people and the freedom they enjoy.

>>30634637
They lost the Legitmate ability anon.

>>30634618
Turkey's idea of "democaracy" is a bit different from the West's. Read up on Kemalism and see the HUGE emphasis they put on the government remaining secular. Considering Ataturk was a politican AND a soldier, the army has traditionally seen itself as the guardian of Turkey and Atatturk's ideals, it's only natural they mobilize if they perceive such ideals are under threat.

I'm pretty sure if Ataturk were still alive today, he'd be damn proud of what's going on.

CNN TURK stream

http://webtv.ert.gr/ert1/

>>30634669
Erdogan's replaced a fair amount of generals with his own loyalists, it's not necessarily a clear cut case of "they don't care and will just sit on their hands" although they hopefully aren't loyal enough to start a civil war.

>>30634685

If they are elected then they aren't a tyrant, by definition. A tyrant is somebody who rules a country without the consent of their people, and only operates through force, which is exactly what the military has done.

Guys this just in from official military channels -
Apparently it's all a prank. They just wanted some videos for their youtube channel but it got out of control.

>>30634630
https://www.periscope.tv/yasin_erdogan/1gqxvBepzZAxB

translate

>>30634692
>>30634716
NBC - Erdogan reportedly looking for asluym in Germany

>>30634714
Anon, he was directly supressing anti Erdogan messages and sentiment. The people lost the ability to criticize him.

What more do you want?

>>30634730

Hopefully the Defenders of Turkish Freedom deployed and encircled the loyalists quickly enough to ensure they won't be a threat to the coup.

>>30634721

Point out how Turkey was at the point where Erdogan couldn't have been removed in an election? The 2A exists so that the people can overthrow a government that has abolished the legal means to remove it, even if Erdogan was moving in that direction he wasn't there yet, and could have been voted out.

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>>30634741
hopefully they shoot down his plane. with no survivors

>>30634749
B-but muh democracy

>>30634749

I would want him to be voted out, impeached, or forced to resign amid popular protests.

>>30634773
explain how this isn't impeachment

erdoğan just called people to the streets

>>30634736
they are pro-akp yelling mr erdoğan

Sky news stream

www.youtube.com/watch?v=y60wDzZt8yg

>>30634768
that would be extremely painful

>>30634773
libcuck detected

>>30634763
The only Turk I care about anymore.

>>30634773
Problem is that Edrogan is very much a rigger of votes and hard crack downs on those who oppose him.

>>30634779

The legislature hasn't voted to removed Erdogan from power.

>>30634779
Impeachment is voted in parliament.

>>30634773
He was litterally supressing all that you listed.

What. More. Do. You. Want.

>>30634773
>Turkey
>Popular Protest
>When Erdogan cracked down on all forms of free speechh against him
>Has police to immediately arrest anybody who talks shit about the government
>impeached
>When Erdogan has fucking control of nearly everything thanks to changes of the constitution
You're a special kind of retard, aren't you?

>>30634787

Sorry I don't like it when militaries dictate to their people how their government is going to be run.

>>30634730
His loyalist might make things bloody and messy but they are a known factor and the first hour would have had them neutralized. Any that are still alive are at home under guard and sitting this out.

They certainly aren't going to endanger expats. Idiots trying to encourage a popular counter-coup uprising might make a real mess.

>>30634773
Hard to do when the guy in power jails or silences critics, exiles potential rivals and seizes their assets, has the entire judiciary in his pocket, and marginalized a rival political party by RESTARTING A CIVIL WAR THAT'S ALREADY KILLED HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE.

>>30634795
You're just getting baited at this point dude.

>>30634773

Are you actually reading what you're posting, or are you this stupid?

If he's actively arresting people for criticizing him and posting anti-Erdogan articles, you don't think he'll fucking you arrest you for doing any of that? Just because the mechanism exists in theory, doesn't mean it will or can be employed.

Even democratically elected, a person or group that actively suppresses anti-government speech and ensures that free thought is snuffed out is therefore a tyrant or tyrants.

>>30634788
That and the Bannerlord devs.
Please no more delays

>>30634795
>>30634801

Fine, I'll at least wait to see how people react to the coup, if it has the support of the population then I'll be on board.

>>30634773
>we shouldn't fight the king guys
For shame anon

>>30634807
>Like

Nobody's saying this is good. It's better then the alternative, and that's the best you can hope for with any government.

>>30634763
Is that a girl or a boy with hormones?

>>30634116

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=w9J5z5ZAQ0E

>>30634807

Well in the case of the US, the military pledges its allegiance to the US Constitution, not a single man or a ruling party. If that man or ruling party decides it's going to suppress free thought and place people in jail for it, the military has the moral obligation to stop it, as do the people.

>>30634836
Girl

>>30634827
There's already a video of civillians clapping and cheering for the military doing the coup.

>>30634759
At the point where he started having all political opposition put in literal prison.

>>30634732
Being elected doesn't mean you have the consent of your people. Not only are we talking about illegal voter fraud here but also about things like gerrymandering, winner takes all and other various manipulations of the public on election day. The AKP isn't that different from United Russia, but Turkey is far more alligned to the West than Russia and has a large anti-AKP diaspora.

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>Having to use facetime

>>30634821
>actively suppresses anti-government speech and ensures that free thought is snuffed out is therefore a tyrant or tyrants.
wew lad, i thought we were talking about Turkey here, not Obama and Shillary

Let's talk about the Turkish military. Given the amount of cities they now control. How many army corps of the military do you think are involved. I suspect at least 4 of them from the 1st and 3rd armies.

>>30634821

Fair enough, I knew Erdogan was an authoritarian shit but if it's as bad as you say it is then I'd probably be okay with it. I wasn't aware just how bad things had gotten there.

>>30634836
Girl, ignore the memes

Reports of clashes between police and military.

You can see videos of the clashes in Turkey at the facebook live map

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmjCkjtWzD4

Video of fighting in Ankara, first building is supposedly the police HQ getting bombed.

>>30634763
I hope ultimate qt 3.14 will be safe
And be able to move somewhere more free
>>30634836
100% female

>>30634847
Eh it's the Middle East they'd do that shit for anyone. The real point is that this is how their government works. The military is expected to step in when shit starts getting dodgy.

>>30634858
Yeah well you probably should have looked up turkish news from like the last couple years. Cause you got told.

>>30634868
Vid's down, do you have a mirror?

>>30634268
i love the look of the patton even though it's a shit tank

>>30634875
When the 2nd amendment more or less works

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>>30634851

>>30634886
In a weird way it's analogous, yeah. A bit more formal than would be expected here though.

>>30634763
I think she's in Nip land currently

>>30634807
The Military exist to protect the people, not the government, at least in the US.

>>30634890
>even the Iraqi government managed real TV cameras

>>30634484
The same way von Stauffenberg tried to overthrow Hitler and the same way Japanese generals tried to overthrow Hirohito at the end of WW2: Disguise it using a threat against the government. In von Stauffenberg's case it was under Operation Valkyrie (Which was revised got his goals) and for the Japanese it was to cut power to the Imperial Palace during an American air raid.
Say that there is a revolt occurring, place leaders in protective custody, secure transport hubs, and limit communications to prevent the rebels/terrorists from spreading their messages.... meanwhile the whole time it was really you arresting the leaders, securing your power, and preventing forces loyal to those you are overthrowing from acting.

>>30634902
Bad time to go with the hordes of mainlanders, pasty weebs, and 40 degree weather.

>>30634473
Fucking kunt Shillary. of course she will publicly denounce anything that gives merit to the concept of a legitimate people legitimately overthrowing a tyrannical govt.
Meanwhile she fully supports and backs any number of US backed proxy-wars of questionable motive and methods

>>30634600
>That's a load of shit and they know it.
But in the US the military does have the authority to remove the President from power if he tries to act contrary to the constitution, or otherwise overstep his power.

It almost happened with Nixon, and I predict it will happen with Trump.

>>30634763

Please tell me that's a girl, and not a convincing trap.

I don't want to end up like that namefag that jacked off to a trap

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>Turkish Army shot pro-Erdogan fanatic who ran at army positions screaming "Allahu Akbar"

>>30634807
>Literally George Washington

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>>30634925
>trump
>anti constitution

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Erdogan was on vacation, now begging Merkal for Asylum.

>spend last 5 years pissing of the Germans as much as possible
>expecting asylum when shit hits the fan.

>>30634229
On this right now. Its not a lot of good stuff, but rather slow and methodical. As it should be.

So how does a military coup work?
Do you sit at the barracks when the order attack the local police station comes in and you just comply?
Do the pilots get briefings before they lift off? What if someone is not on board?

>>30634807
>All enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC...

>>30634908
they've only existed to protect foreign governments for a while

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>>30634212
Bullshit. The Turkish military was designed to be the guarantor of a secular Turkish state. Erdogan has pushing Turkey towards a theocratic tyranny for years and now the bill is due. Thank the heavens for the Turkish officiers who have been brave enough to reassert their role and attempt to reinstate Ataturks vision.

“I have no religion, and at times I wish all religions at the bottom of the sea. He is a weak ruler who needs religion to uphold his government; it is as if he would catch his people in a trap.”

>>30634931
>Gun shots are heard coming from a helicopter towards the TRT Building. (TRT is the Official Government News Agency). This was live on CNN Turk.
>Sky News reporting the explosion in Ankar
>#BREAKING: Heavy gunfire at Turkish Presidential Palace

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This coup will only work if you say
>Bol sanslar Köksal Baba

>>30634938
He's brown so they'll probably give him the Reichstag.

>>30634931
https://twitter.com/moezbhar/status/754069819054493698

Its going down at the palace

>>30634929
http://anzujaamu.tumblr.com/
what do you think

>>30634938
German Bureaucrats are cucks
They'll accept him because it'll be the most "progressive" thing to do

>>30634947
Bol sanslar Köksal Baba!

>>30634929
See>>30634874 >>30634859> >30634845

>>30634938

The Germans are a bunch of fucking cucks nowadays, so many they'll make him the German PM

>>30634938
>In airplane
GG, Erdogan left Turkey, he is about to cuck Germany/Rest of the world

Denied landing in Germany!

>>30634947
I hope Baba's safe..

>>30634233

The CIA would just illegally jam or remove any streaming of anything. Who gives a shit what the MSM says?

>>30634941
A lot of times they don't tell you it's not an exercise until you're midway through overthrowing the government.

But typically it happens in a country where the military didn't see eye to eye with civilian leaders in the first place.

>>30634923
They haven't made a statement on this yet. What the fuck are you talking about?

>>30634963
confirmed? source?

>>30634936
>wants to ban people from entering the US based on religion
>blatant violation of the first amendment
Sorry anon, but he is.

>>30634484
The two key factors for a successful coup are planning and speed. First, you need to organize enough guys in high enough positions to be able to mobilize troops to seize key objectives. The best way to do this is to utilize troops that are already deployed in the area under legitimate reasons, so you won't attract any suspicion. Then, you have to be able to capture, contain, or otherwise neutralize all major leaders, seize control of communications and transportation hub and other key infrastructure and services, and come up with a good reason for the coup so that you can win popular support.

And this is where speed is key. Every minute you delay is another minute a key political figure can escape or somebody gets the message out to loyalists. Every failed coup was due to poor planning or the inability to achieve objects quick enough.

>>30634969

Judging by the way the people here moved with such grace, I doubt that the soldiers were merely told this was a exercise. I think the military had been working to this for a while

>Claims from Turkish sources on air that head of Turkish military has been killed and that the heads of the Turkish Air Force and Land Forces are behind the coup.

>>30634435

You clearly know nothing about Turkish electoral politics or what Erdogan has done to remain in power.

Also, One man, one vote is bullshit when you have a modern country wedded by geography to a backwards shithole, in Turkey Erdogan's voter base are literal goat fucking medieval peasants in Anatolia. This is also why third world immigration is a terrible idea and will destroy western democracy and western civilization, btw.

>>30634286
>Russia falls so the US disarms

What fucking fantasy world do YOU live in

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>>30634977

>>30634978
The Constitution only applies to citizens.

>>30634943

Not really up to the military do decide when the legitimate government is no longer in the people's best interests. The only reason why this coup is okay is because Erdogan effectively made it impossible to remove him from power through an election.

>>30634982

I hope they were able to disarm potential loyalists before things got underway. Things can get REAL hairy if the loyalists haven't been captured.

>>30634997
>Erdogan is in Marmaris at a hotel for vocation according to pro-AKP media.
>Erdogan being on a plane is possibly false.

>>30634665
>I only wish more "democratically elected" leaders were overthrown like half of latin America
Yeah because Allende was so much worse than Pinochet turned out to be.

brazilcop pls go, we don't support statist regimes who murder people to protect the country from libruls, even though most of /k/ hates them too.

FUCKING YES!

>>30634435

Haha, voting works! Don't forget to do nothing but vote! Haha! Never do anything but vote because voting works!

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>>30633845
kudatah fuck yeah

>>30634978
>wants to ban people from entering the US based on religion
>blatant violation of the first amendment
The president has the power to do that. Obama did it himself during the Iraq-Iran war. And no, it isn't a violation of the first amendment.
>https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

>>30634941
Not sure how the Turkish guys do it since their coups are basically well oiled machined. However, in most military coups, the rank and file guys are often given vague and sometimes outright false orders to effect of "REVOLT IN PROGRESS. POLICE CAN'T BE TRUSTED. SUPPRESS ALL POLICE FORCES."

>>30634978
Constitution is about US citizen and ppl living on the US territory. Not foreign ppl who want to come to the US.

>>30635032
>Iraq-Iran
Fuck, meant Iraq War and Afghanistan during his term

>>30635022
>Yeah because Allende was so much worse than Pinochet turned out to be

I used to think this until around 2014 when Venezuela really started to shit the bed.

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>>30634978
You don't know shit about the Constitution, fuck off.

>>30634132

>US supporting Erdogan

Erdogan doesn't support America, I think we'll probably support the Kurd-friendly and secular parties, if anyone.

>>30634982
I must admit the speed that the Army took the country was extremely fast and clean.

>>30634955
Stop. I know you are joking but fuck something deep down tells me the Germans will do it.

>>30635027

Removal by force is only acceptable when removal by democratic means has only been made impossible.

>>30634947
Bol sanslar Köksal Baba

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>>30634462
What you said. You deserve a cookie.

https://twitter.com/gizeminthesky/status/754069033780146176
>Army taking over the TRT building

>>30635053
you call attack helos firing into a city clean?

So what's the military standard kit compared to the police's?

>>30634212

>freely elected

Except for the ballot box stuffing and declaring opposition parties illegal while outlawing anyone that reports on the ballot box stuffing or political hits.

>>30635035
>crashing this government
>WITH NO SURVIVORS

>>30634630
>police are calling to attack the army

Good luck with that.

>>30635027
what do you do if someone is fucking stuff up way before the opportunity to vote someone else in comes?

>>30635066
>Lieutenant: "Turkish Army Forcest took over the government! We will let you go in groups of two or three, if you resist I will shoot you. You cannot ask questions."

>>30635013
Confirmed as
>Erdogan is now on camera live (not FaceTime)

Is this the cleanest coup ever to happen?

1 hour, no shots, all key locations seized, president in hiding,martial law established.

No whistleblowers at all

How do you organise something so big so fast? literally no one would have had to speak

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>>30635064
thanks anon

What kind of tonks and helis do the turks use anyway?

I think I saw a M60 in one of the vids but I might be mistaken.

>>30634956
Wishes will be fulfilled
http://youtu.be/cRgi5d7XsgY

>>30634955
Remember that Germans also like S&M.

It's time for them to put on the domme boots and take him to the back room where they keep the ball gags and other toys. At the very least they'll be able to extradite him to the new regime.

>>30635082
Erdogan was not a popular man.

>>30635069
Shooting small pockets resistance isn't a determinant of unclean. Apart from that, the way they treated the civilians and take control of so many key points and cities make it clean as far as military coup's go. Nobody expects a military coup to be completely bloodless.

>>30634931
#turklivesmatter

>>30635069

Compared to most coup's, which result in entire cities being leveled and thousands dead.

This was infact, relatively clean

>>30635082
>no shots
kek

>>30635035
he´s the big guy

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>>30635082
>helicopters shooting into city
>soldiers gunning down a guy shouting allahu ackbar

i wouldn't call this clean

>>30634978
>violating rights of people who aren't citizens and don't have said rights

ok chief.

>>30635082
>>30635086
Sources say Military is backing down

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>>30633804

I guess the military finally got sick of Erdogan's Islamist bullshit and the daily terrorist attacks.

>>30635082

This is literally why the Turkish Army exists.

>>30635111
sauce

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>>30634955
>muh cuck memes
Pretty sure some big guy was making calls all night.

>>30635082
>no shots
Did you miss the fucking apache helicopter rain down brrrrrrrrrrrrrrt hell on the police station?

>>30635120
The "military backing down" post was posted without a solid source. Unconfirmed.

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People rushing the streets of Ankara despite the curfew in effect.

No word on if they support one side or another.

>>30635137

I did in fact miss that

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>>30634462
Well said

>>30635060

Yeah, or before that. Stop being a bitch.

>>30635078

Light them the fuck up.

>>30635142
They are all going to catch some pokemon.

>>30634520
>A reminder that Islamic countries cannot handle democracy.
let me fix that for you
>islamic countries can't handle Islam.

>>30635142
>No word on if they support one side or another.
they are cheering the panzerns m8.

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>>30634630
Goddamn this is beautiful

>>30635120
>>30635138
"I live in turkey and several news channels confirm that military backed down from ataturk airport"
Unconfirmed as of yet

>>30635142
pro erdogan supposedly.

>>30634925
Get your crystal ball checked. I think someone switched it with a polished turd.

>>30635142
Confirmed pro-Erdogan

>>30634947
Bol sanslar Köksal Baba

>>30635087
I don't get it. Do they just harass him in fun? Is Koksal part of it? It must be an act

https://twitter.com/agirecudi/status/754073525686722560
Video reportedly shows Turkish police arresting Turkish soldier "attempting coup"

Do you think they'll oust the mayor of Ankara out as well?

>From my friend in Ankara "He can see large amounts of heavly armed police marching down the street. And what seems to be APC's and police armed with automatic weapons. Also see's non police AKP supports armed and unarmed marching with them. He doesn't know what's their destination."

There will be blood.

>>30634982
>Every failed coup was due to poor planning or the inability to achieve objects quick enough.
This.

It's why the Soviet hardliners failed when they tried to launch their own coup, that and the extreme reluctance of Russian soldiers to fire on their own people.

>>30635049
>Venezuela really started to shit the bed
I wonder what made Chavez more crazy though, the paranoia of narrowly surviving a CIA backed coup attempt (literally only because the people poured out onto the streets), or the brain tumour that killed him?

I'm hardly saying that his policies didn't play a part, but there was more going on with Venezuela than liberal economics.

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>>30635142
>>30635187

Erdogan told them to take to the streets in support of him.

The arrogant little fuck is going to get a lot of people killed trying to claw onto power. I guess that's the plan though right? He gets his protestors to attack the military, the military defends itself and a bunch of his followers die and then he pretends that he's peaceful and plays the martyr card.

>>30635007
It is when the oath is sworn to defend the CONSTITUTION . Stay libcucked

>>30635204
he has a rifle in his hand and the police officer has his arm around his shoulder

Shots fired but Sky pussied out and didn't show

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This is history folks, while it is good to have post here keep a journal for stuff like this something your grandkids can dig up and be amazed by.

>>30635236
Warning shots to disperse the crowds, military doesn't want to kill people, but Ergodan wants people to bumrush them so they are forced into violence

>>30635236
>>30635225
>>30635218
>So much gunfire, drifting towards us on the wind.
Heavy gunfire now, shit's going down, stay tunned

Seems like Army is engaging Police loyal to Erdogan.

>>30635218
Exactly. A few rowdy protesters getting shot can be spun to great effect.

>>30635249
>>30635251
#BREAKING: Turkish military tanks firing around #Istanbul airport

>>30634520
>Libya, current Iraq, and current Syria.
>Lists countries where dictatorships collapsed

>>30635208

The pro-erdogan police are fucking outgunned it's hilarious. The streets will run red with their blood

>>30634785
For them.

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