Mini 14 in 5.56 nato Why are these so goddamn expensive? A box

>>30630224
People who want a cheap poodle shooter will get an AR.
Those who want a traditionally stocked rifle in .223 is a much smaller group. They will pay more, as there really isn't competition. And there is no competition because there isn't that much demand

>>30630241
This

The mini14 is on my list because I want/need a semi auto 5.56 but don't particularly care for the ar platform with the exception of m16A1 clones that cost as much or more than the mini to build/buy

>>30630241
This.

There is little to no market for a 'civilian-style' semi-automatic rifle that you have to semi-extensively modify to make 'tactical'. In order to turn a profit, Ruger has to make the prices assblastingly high. I actually had a discussion with someone about how bad the prices were for these guns earlier today.

At least they're built like tanks and handle almost as good as the M1 Carbine (which is about the same size, a bit smaller, but feels similar).

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>>30630224
The Mini-14 is inherently more expensive to produce and doesn't have the same economy of scale as the AR-15 does now.

There was a time when it was cheaper than getting a Colt AR, but they also weren't as good back then.

If you look at the used market, you should be able to find one for like 600-700 depending on the model, and it should shoot as accurately as a comparatively priced AR.

It's pretty decent if you want a modern day M1 Carbine facsimile, it's even available in .300BLK now if you want that closer range stoppan powah

>>30630224
because they're unbannable. they're not Ass Salt Guns, and they look just like yer Grandpappy's old hunting rifle, so they don't scare liberals too much.

>>30630224
I don't own one, but I love how minis look and that's worth $$$ to me. IDK why ruger thinks they're made of gold or something, they're really expensive but I suppose I'll still drop the money one of these days.
I'll probably own one before I get an AR at this point, but I already have an ak in 556 so neither is a huge priority for me any more. I like how aks feel so an ak is better money spent on a 556 rifle for me.

>>30630354
>2016
> intentionally choosing the shittier rifle

What a faggot

>>30630888
I find it hilarious that a Garand (especially with the gas plug for modern loads) or any old deer rifle in fuddy ought six punches through armor plate better than anything chambered in an intermediate cartridge but because they aren't scary looking guns the libs never touch them.

>>30630707
>weren't as good back then
Not as good now.

>>30630926
This entire comment is retarded actually, AR500 plates reliably stopped 30.06 but against M196 they failed.

Not saying I agree with libs, but, your physics is off.

>>30630224
>Why are these so goddamn expensive?
A decent warranty. If your mini is broken out of the box or starts to have problems after a few thousand rounds Ruger will still work on it w/o charge.
Unlike all these budget AR brands run out of sheds that basically tell people with defective products to get fucked(PSA).

>>30630926
any rifle caliber punches through most body armor. almost nobody has above IIIA body armor because almost nobody gets shot with rifles. kind of defeats the purpose of rifle and feature bans though so the libs will never admit it.

>>30630948
>what are 180 series and 580 series guns

>>30630968
ive never seen a particularly bad review of psa's customer service. in fact, i dont think ive ever seen a bad review that wasnt about a ptsc rifle.

People are buying them up in case they ban the scary black rifles. It's driving the price way up.

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>>30631004
What's the fucking point? Why not get an AR if you want to be a mall ninja?

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>>30631004

I wont lie

This is fucking sexy

>>30631018
>what is not as good an as AR

>>30631047
How the fuck is that anything close to being a mall ninja!?

>>30631091
>!?
Dropped.

>>30631091
>shit ton of accessories slapped onto a gun to look tactical
>not mall ninja

>>30631098
I'm waiting

>>30631107
>optic
>stock
>accustrut
>sling
Real fucking mall ninja.....

>>30631121
Here's what you need, and what looks best
>Optic
>Sling
Anything else is probably mallninja, especially that retarded furniture

>>30631121
>That furniture
>MORE RAILS THAN A FUCKING TRAINYARD
>That magazine
>The colors
Don't try to downplay this shit, faggot

>>30631155

Congrats you named a bunch of things that aren't accessories, dumbass

>>30631225
Are you pretending to be retarded

>>30631225
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IMBLYGNIG

>>30631084
I'll say a current Mini-14 would shoot about as well as an M&P-15

>>30630224
Where the fuck are you being asked 980 for a mini? I got mine for 600 NIB

I got one new for 600 senpai. Love it too

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>>30631047
Because it's cool?

>>30631047
>adjustable stock and pistol grip
>a red dot
>this is mallninja
I bet you misuse 'fudd' too.

>>30631107
>>30631135
>>30631155
>>30631265
>>30631308
You niggas are fucking retarded, a tacticool Mini-14 is something like what Breivik used, LOOK at this this shit
>grippod
>laser sight
>flashlight
>magnifier WITH eotech
>bayonet

If it's not a whole bunch of shit tacked onto a gun to clutter it up and weigh it down, it's not mallninja.

>>30631265
>>30631308
>a stock and magazine which is important to the function of the rifle are accessories

No you are the retarded

>>30631382
>flashlight
>mall ninja
wut

What's another good wood stock rifle still in production?

>>30631404
AK

>>30631394
Anything that isn't part of the stock rifle is an accessory.

>>30631439

Under your made up definition, sure

Accessory means something that is added to something else

Replacing the stock with a new one isn't accessorizing

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>>30631396
>flashlight, laser, magnifier, reflex sight, all together
>not mallninja
>also bayonet and grippod
>not turbo mallninja

To note is that he didn't even have a real plastic stock, he painted the wooden one he had.

>>30631460
THAT IS ADDING AOMETHING NEW HOLY FUCK

>>30631480
I'm just sayin, may wanna take flashlight off the list.

>>30631488
So an AR-15 with a MagPul stock, pistol grip and fore-end would be mallninja accessorizing to you?

>>30631425
Is wasr a shit?

>>30631496
New ones are fine, you can tell if they're new if they have the scopemount on the left side of the receiver.

>>30631495
No but it would be accessorizing, just like how putting a Pmag in your rifle is accessorizing and so is putting a bayonet on your Mosin.

>>30631491
ALL of the things on his rifle are useful in their own way, he just fucking tacked on everything like he went full Arfcom.

>>30631488

adding != replacing

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;^)

>>30630241
>ruger cornered the market for which there is no demand

GG Ruger.

>>30631541
ugh

>>30631562
There's plenty of demand for such rifles in Commiefornia and Jew York.

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>>30631575

>>30631585
Also, if Hitllary gets elected, there will be plenty of demand for them across the nation.

>>30631541
That doesn't look half bad desu.Reminds me of a 553

So, curious. Why does anyone care about mall ninja shit? Or even call it mall ninja? I thought the mall ninja was the person. If someone has ten different accessories on their rifle, but gets use out of all of them, is it mall ninja? I mean, even if the guy has all that shit and never uses any of em, hey, his money right?

>>30630224
I live in Boston. In addition to the MA assault weapon ban, Boston has one too where the AR is banned.

>>30631657
>If someone has ten different accessories on their rifle, but gets use out of all of them, is it mall ninja?
No.Mall ninja is putting 10 extra accessories on that you will never use (magnifier when you can't shoot for shit, bayonet, flashlight, laser sight, IR sight, when you only shoot at day, extra tactical Magticals tm that you can pull at .0344 seconds faster than normal magazines, etc.) But if I only shoot at night, a flashlight would be useful and not mallninja, if its my HD gun and I don't want to be in trouble when pumping it a bayonet would be useful, etc.

>>30631741
>HD gun
>pumping
>shotgun
>or aussie
>wat even

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>>30631613
Yeah I honestly don't hate the Spartan stocks, even though they probably add a bunch of weight and bulk you could likely do without.

>>30631758
>>pumping
>>shotgun
>or Aussie
Pump shotguns are the most common HD guns, with semi shotguns coming up next.Nobody said anything about Australia.

>>30631785
>Pump shotguns are the most common HD guns
Citation needed? I'm just saying there are far better options out there.

>>30631794
Like what?
>inb4 AR
Have fun killing your neighbors, smashing up your stuff and their stuff, going deaf, and getting that $900 AR locked up for "evidence" plus getting in legal trouble for "much po babee dindu nuffin dat salt gun dun huwt him so much das ebil"

>>30631825
Nigger what

>>30631825
What are you, a liberal?

>have fun killing your neighbors
5.56 destabilizes through drywall quicker than 00 buckshot, lessening the chance lethality after exiting your house. Protip also, any round capable of killing a human, ie smashing through bones, will overpenetrate your home.

>smashing up your stuff
Wut?

>going deaf
Wear electronic earpro? Even just muffs? Shooting a shotgun indoors won't fuck up your hearing? Welcome to /k/?

>$900 AR locked up
My life is worth more than everything I own, how bout yours?

>getting into legal trouble
Cite the case where the person defending his home was convicted for having an AR?

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Anybody knows what this suppressor is here?

>>30631930
QB-8

>>30631933
>QB-8
Is that still for sale anywhere?

>>30631941
Yeah, it's around here and there, ask your local gunstores if they have any.

>>30631948
Thanks lad.

>>30630224
where are you seeing them for 980? I saw one for around 700 a few weeks ago

>>30631996
700 new? Where?

>>30631321
BA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Tried to buy my first gun 15 days ago after the queer massacre, got redflagged by tbi. So i filed an appeal and 15 nervous wreck days later finally got the go ahead and got taken off the nosell list! Anyways saved up 800 US to buy an AR to celebrate, i want ideas ,info, your opinions, advise everything AR becouse i can fucken buy one!
Pic related gun im picking up after work, also muthafucking AR's

>>30632062
Shit i was trying to start my own thread, mybad

>>30631480
Damn, maybe guns being black DOES make them more dangerous...

I love mine.

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Pic related is the only reason I'd buy a mini-14. Simply to make a Mini-m14

>>30632073
Delete the post then you fucking pleb

>>30630968
Link?

>>30630968
oh god, the "if its a shit product, give it a good warranty" defense

>>30631825
Are you retarded?

>>30632030
Yes.

>>30632370
The product is good though.

>>30632401
>Yes.
No.

>>30632420
M&P-15 shoots what, about 3-4 MOA?
A 580 series Mini-14 has no trouble matching that.

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>>30630224
>>30630917
>>30631047
>>30631135

>>30631135
forgot light
>>30631382
thinks light is mall ninja

>>30632494
My point with that post was never that each or any one of those things is mallninja you illiterate mouthbreather.

>>30632555
> back pedals this hard
> makes me do the store front captcha

ITT: retards completely misuse "mall ninja", are likely the same ones who misuse "fudd"

>>30632577
>post says "all this shit he can't be using tacked onto the gun at once"
>never said flashlights were bad
>never said any of the mentioned attachments were bad
>buh flashlights gud tho

>>30630955
Implying that there isn't some redneck with AP 30-06.

>>30630926
This. Mini 14 is banned by name in Cook County but there is absolutely no restriction on an m14.

>>30630955
.30-06 will go through a typical carrier plate with enough hits.

A proper modern AP load of .30-06 would make even shorter work of a carrier plate.

Also to note that M2 ball isn't as hot loaded as modern .30-06 ammo.

>>30632659
Illinois is so gay.

>>30632658
>implying anyone but poorfags who go on about SHTF situations use NIJ III rated plates now days

>>30632683
>.30-06 will go through a typical carrier plate with enough hits.
>just stand still so I can shoot you a couple times in a 10"x12" plate with my rifle that has considerable recoil

If the mini used ar15 mags it would be so much fucking better

>>30632434
Cite your sources?

>>30632658
>Implying that there isn't some redneck with AP 30-06.
And? You act like theres no AP 5.56 or ability to make AP 5.56

>>30632683
Anything will go through plate with enough hits lel.

>>30632658
uhhhh CMP match ammo dumbass

>>30632736
>.30-06
>Considerable recoil

>>30632948
>Anything will go through plate with enough hits lel.
I want to see this done with 22lr

>>30633034
AR500? Prolly not, I mean it will eventually but, not in any practical amount of time. Ceramic? Sure, those things are only rated for 1 or 2 guaranteed hits you know. Against anything.

>>30633034
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYUStflzL_Y

>>30633101
>those things are only rated for 1 or 2 guaranteed hits you know
NIJ specifications require anything rated NIJ III or higher to safely stop 5 rounds of 7.62 NATO. Kevlar vests are required to safely stop 6 rounds of whatever they're rated against.

>>30633117
>NIJ specifications require anything rated NIJ III or higher to safely stop 5 rounds of 7.62 NATO
Source?

>>30633151
>>NIJ specifications

>>30633167
Great, source? I googled it, nothing came up stating 5 of 7.62 nato or keval vests requiring the ability to stop 6 rounds.

>>30633180
Did you actually bother reading?
Sections 4.1.1 for soft armor, section 4.1.2 for hard armor

>>30633237
Annnnd, link?

>>30633254
The very first one if you had actually bothered to google.

>>30632736
>take hit from large rifle to plate carrier
>standing up straight after that
lel good luck

Walmart has one for $800.

>>30633180
>>30633254
It's literally the first result on searching "NIJ body armor specifications," learn to use a search engine you fucking mongoloid. Round count is in the sections this anon mentioned >>30633237, I mixed up the round count it's 6 rounds of 7.62 NATO and 5 rounds for the pistol tests. Section 7.8.1 shows the locations for the shots on hard armor plates, the last 3 shots have to be inside a 100mm circle.

>>30633280
And confirmed for talking out of your ass.

>>30633292
>take recoil from a large rifle to shoulder
>standing up straight after that
lel good luck

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>>30632948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jstxMgeO3eo

http://gunsmagazine.com/the-marvelous-mini-14/

https://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=496878

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Mini-14
>In 2005, Ruger introduced a new upgraded Ranch Rifle with serial numbers beginning with 580 and are sometimes referred to as 580 series Ranch Rifles.[10] These new rifles were designed to improve overall accuracy. They have new iron sights and a modified gas system designed to reduce barrel vibration.[9][11] These new Mini-14s are capable of shooting 2 inch groups at 100 yards or 2 Minute of angle (MOA) accuracy.[12]

A new Mini will shoot 3-4 MOA with average ammo, with match ammo you should have no problem shooting 2 MOA, furthermore, the thicker barrel profile and upgraded gas system means the barrel doesn't heat up nearly as fast so groupings don't open up within one magazine like they used to do on the old rifles, neither does the barrel flex, as it was wont to do on the old civilian ones.

For that matter, the Mini-14 Target will shoot sub-MOA if tuned in right.

>>30633280
>>30633307
I cant fuckin find it loool, it would take 2 seconds to post the link, you already just fucking posted the sections.

>>30630241
First post best post?

>>30633425
>wikipeds
>source
Soooo, I'm assuming the sources cited there list back to the Ruger website? Just because a weapon is CAPABLE of something doesn't mean it's the average of what you're purchasing.

>>30630926
Actually, they're banned by name in MD.

So are M1 Carbines.

If you guys think that libs won't touch your durr rifles, you're fucking wrong.

>>30633464
As opposed to the rest of the examples I provided you cherrypicking cakeboy?

>>30633504
>gun forums
>youtube video
>sources
UUUUH

even though they are way expensive i still want a mini 30 cause theyre kinda goofy. garand/m14 action that shoots slav shit. i know you can get like 3 sks' for the same price. everyones always like one or the other.
why not both, works for tacos

>>30631004
This is the only reason I've considered buying a Mini 14.

>>30632292

fuck I like this

>>30633450
>waaah spoon feed me

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>>30633635
Check out the AC-556k, it's short length looks rad in this stock, and it's select fire too!

>>30630224
$1000+ seems to be the going price for a milled reciever semiauto rifle. New production M1 Carbines are in the $1000 to $1200 range. A basic Springfield M1A starts at $1600.

The Mini fills a niche, a traditionally stocked Garand action rifle in an intermediate caliber.

If you want an AR, get an an AR. Some people want something different.

>>30631047
Possibly because they don't want to be like the other thousand guys with an AR.

>>30631996
Me too, nib $720

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>>30631004

>>30632008
Walmart

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>>30632948
Source: me

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>>30631604
Well, the Mini and Aries SCR lowers to fit everyone's existing AR uppers.

Mini14 holds second place, behind AKs but above the Sig MCX. AR-15s even got beaten out by a truck.

Let the real guns do the killing, ARs are literally Barbies for men.

>>30632292
I sort of want to turn one into a mini Garand. Add an accustrut and fake forward handgaurd with a wooden upper handgaurd.

>>30634694
The AKs were multiple shooters. The Mini was a single shooter.

>>30630926
Well, now in Soviet Kalifornistan, they want to ban all semiauto rifles, even .22s.

>implying the 9th Circuit won't uphold the ban

>>30631604
No, there won't, because she's going to try to ban all semiautos and all military caliber firearms as a first step--along with banning handguns.

>>30631930
I'm sorry, but does that rifle have no sights on it at all? Or am I taking crazy pills here?

>>30635043
Do you actually have a source for that ridiculous claim?

>>30634649
What ammo, what optics, or was that done with irons?

more details, man.

>>30635061
I guess the front sights are gone due to the suppressor, rear sights are there though.

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Cherry_2000

Great movie btw.

>>30635090
She's a Democrat. What else do you need to know?

>>30635264
>>30635090
Won't she try to renew the Clinton ban?
I'm a millennial yuropoor, but I heard that was pretty bad.

>>30635264
Except neither the baning of military calibers nor handguns have never been pushed in the US recently and cities with laws about the later have since had those laws overturned by the Supreme Court. If you are going to attack them then attack them for what they have tried to push, don't make shit up. Pushing incredibly weak arguments that can be destroyed with the most basic of fact checking just makes people trying to fight the new ridiculous gun laws look bad.

>>30635294
Significantly worse bills have been pushed since and have been passed at the state level.

>>30635294
She's on record as wanting that, and yes, that was pretty fuckhorrible. 12 years after the expiration some shit STILL hasn't gone down in price.

Would you believe that before 1994 you could get surplus M14 mags for five bucks each?

And the only company that made decent aftermarket Mini-14 mags--a company called PMI (no, NOT "Pro-Mag," no relation) went out of business during the ban.

Let me count all the shit we don't have because of the ban. A now-defunct company called Star in Spain made handguns, and some of them were innovative designs. They made a little all-steel singlestack 9mm called the "Firestar" and it was the very first subcompact 9mm made for concealed carry. Then they made a doublestack version called the "Firestar Plus" that used a 13-round mag that you can NOT find for sale in the US. They also made some fair--well, better than Llama-tier, though the QC was sloppy and spotty--fullsize 9mm service pistols (the 28, 30, and 31) that are nice if you can find one, if you like DA/SA, but you can NOT find mags for them. And NO, despite the Internet rumors you hear, S&W 5906 mags do NOT fit or function properly in the Star service pistols.

Bleh.

>>30635336
>significantly worse bills

Has there ever been an attempt to outright outlaw civilian ownership of semiautomatic rifles?

>>30635383
O-ok..

I keep hearing about how the golden age for gunowners were the 1890-1930's era.

What are the benefits for gun collectors in this day and age? Cheap AR's?

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>>30630888

>babby killing assault mini checking in

>>30635336
If fifty years of disarm-Whitey laws haven't made it obvious to you that the Democrats hate the Constitution and will push for anything and everything to get rid of RKBA that they can, and that they will be more than willing to pack the Supreme Court with more "wise Latinas" in order to walk back DC vs. Heller and drop it down the Memory Hole, then you can't be reached at all.

Sarah Brady, or whoever's running her organization now, has all this shit on her organization's web page. They want to cut the 2nd Amendment right out of the Constitution, and it fits right in with the leftist agenda of Kultural Bolshevism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_LaBJvI0BI

Here it is from Nancy Pelosi. If you can't believe her, whom can you believe?

If you participate in the shooting sports, if you think you might have to use a firearm to fight for your life, then voting for a Democrat--any Democrat--is like punching yourself in the balls.

>>30635411
>What are the benefits for gun collectors in this day and age? Cheap AR's?

Pretty much. And technological progress--new gadgets and all that. Stuff like 1-6x illuminated reticle scopes that are the new hotness right now. And being able to buy an AK without those retarded "Planet of the Apes" "thumbhole sporter" stocks.

And that's all well and good for certain purposes, I guess, but--well, this has less to do with bans than with the passage of time. I remember when Swedish Mausers were $69 in Shotgun News. I remember .303 British surplus ammo being cheap and plentiful and, mostly, still shootable. Now if you own a Lee-Enfield you either take up reloading or you buy Prvi Partizan softnose hunting ammo at a dollar a pop when you want to take the old rifle to the range--or have a gunsmith rechamber it to 7.62x54R (enjoy your lacquered steelcase ammo sticking in the chamber and having to beat the bolt open with a two by four). I remember $24 brown plastic battlepacks of South African 7.62x51mm. I remember surplus .30/06 M2 black-tip steel-core ammo being cheap and plentiful everywhere. I remember everything not being aluminum and plastic and potmetal. I remember even cheap hunting rifles sold with department store chain names rollmarked on them being made of birch and forged steel. It's not the same today.

>>30635411
>Has there ever been an attempt to outright outlaw civilian ownership of semiautomatic rifles?
Not completely. They have been pushing bills recently in some states that define "assault weapon" as any semi auto rifle capable of using detachable magazines or with a fixed magazine over 10 rounds though along with bills to ban designs of easily removable fixed magazines.

>>30635462
How many levels of mental retardation are you on right now?

>>30635547
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-gun-bills-20160519-snap-story.html

>How many levels of mental retardation are you on right now?

Stop hitting yourself.

>>30635575
>Not completely. They have been pushing bills recently in some states that define "assault weapon" as any semi auto rifle capable of using detachable magazines or with a fixed magazine over 10 rounds though along with bills to ban designs of easily removable fixed magazines.
Can you not read?

>>30631047
a) Direct impingement is shit
b) Probably doesn't want to be like 99.9% of Americans and buy an AR
c) Conversation starter
d) SHALL

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>>30634510
Yet you can easily find a brand new Mini-14 rifle for just $700, also the Mini-14 is forged, not milled.

If you want to go even lower, you could look at an old spec 180 series rifle, they can go for as low as $400, less sometimes, and with an AccuStrut, they wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, maybe throw on another stock if you don't like rifle grips.

>>30635462
>Nancy pelosi
Yeah nah

>>30635539
So it's boring now. That's a shame. I was more interested in a fully auto tec-9, deagle long slide, paratrooper mini 14 and a ww2 era Lee Enfield sniper but those days are gone...
We just need to repeal the laws and have another decent world war with loads of surplus and minimal casualties, like the emu war.

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>>30635608
>Direct impingement is shit
Let me guess, you don't know how an AR-15 works and think it blows shit all over the inside of the receiver.

>>30630707
This. You had the answer 4 posts in, this thread is an embarrassment.

Economy of scale is what makes an AR so cheap. To judge anything else against an AR in cost is full-retard.

>>30635608
>Direct impingement is shit
Good thing the AR-15 doesn't work on DI then.

>>30635539
>I remember everything not being aluminum and plastic and potmetal. I remember even cheap hunting rifles sold with department store chain names rollmarked on them being made of birch and forged steel. It's not the same today.
That shit wasn't exactly cheap, though.

Also, there isn't actually anything which stops you from putting together an AR-15 with a steel receiver and wood furniture.

>>30635635
Was there ever a longslide Deagle?

>>30635635
>We just need to repeal the laws and have another decent world war with loads of surplus and minimal casualties, like the emu war.
This is the bigger problem, though it likely won't help due to how newer militaries are moving to similar guns now days. Our best hope currently is for North Korea to finally collapse and sell off all their surplus guns for at least a bit more variety.

>>30635687
There was a 14.75" barrel version, slide wasn't any longer though.

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>>30635687
Yes?

>>30635661
>Muh AR15's again.
Everyone and their dead mum is running around with an AR. I want a special snowflake gun that no one has.

>>30630224
>A box new mini will run you like 980

That's a little on the high side, I'd expect to pay about $850 max for one, including sales tax. I often see the basic ranch model for significantly less.

If you want my guess as to why they're expensive I'd say that it's at least in part because Ruger has the market cornered on the unsalted sporting rifle market. The post-2005 models are nice, if the 14 took STANAG mags or the 30 took AK mags I'd probably own one, IMO these rifles look great in chrome & black.

>>30635724
>Our best hope currently is for North Korea to finally collapse and sell off all their surplus guns for at least a bit more variety.

>mfw automatic chrome Bren's will flood the market

https://youtu.be/gSGwgCIxSjA

>>30635748
That's an airshit gun, my man.

Also, there's nothing wrong with wanting a special snowflake gun, but there also isn't anything wrong with an AR-15.

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>>30635881
Just a pic I snatched of the internet. And i meant a long barrel, yes. They're there.

Also does this AR look snowflakey enough?

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>>30635939
There's lots of things you can do to make an AR-15 look less usual.

I just bought one for 700 after fees/tax.

Brand new.

Should I grease it like m1 or oil it?

>>30635411
>I keep hearing about how the golden age for gunowners were the 1890-1930's era.
That kind of fluctuates, aside from the 94-04 AWB, the past 50 years have had their good things going, every decade or so.

Cheap surplus isn't so much a thing no more, but people are doing a lot interesting developments right now, and the AR-15 is genuinely a great rifle, the fact that Colt no longer has dibs on it and you can get them in qualities and builds where the sky is the limit, that's pretty good.

>>30636088
>Should I grease it like m1 or oil it?

Yes.

>>30636088
Good price, what model?

And sure, oil it some, can't hurt.

>>30636122
5801 wood ranch rifle with 2 5 rounders since NJ.

I pick it up tuesday.

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>>30636133
What's the mag limit in NJ?
Can you have pinned 20rd mags?

>>30633796
I cant find it though, I tried to look, if you can't post a source I cant find, I guess it doesn't exist.

>>30634649
>me
>anecdote
So, your source is worthless.

>>30636288
Yea can't find any pinned 20rders online though. Ordered two 10rders.

>>30633475
>Actually, they're banned by name in MD

What?

Apparently only the folding stock model in .223. They sell Mini 14's at a local shop near me near the MD/PA border.

>>30636341
See >>30633307
>It's literally the first result on searching "NIJ body armor specifications," learn to use a search engine you fucking mongoloid.

>>30630224
It comes down to the degree of complexity of machining.

The AR 15 receiver can be machined in 3 or so operations, 4 at most, from Aluminum at that, which is quicker and easier on the tooling.

The Mini 14 and M14 at that, is absurdly complex and requires anywhere from 7 to 11 operations to complete.

>>30636445
Uh huh, in the future don't talk out your ass please lol.

Neeeext.

>>30631825

You're now aware that 00 buck and 9×19 JHP penetrate more walls than 5.56 HD loads.

>>30630224

My Wal-Mart has them for $750

Went to my local Mills Fleet Farm today. They were selling new Saiga 5.45x39s for $350, marked down from $650.

Checked on Gunbroker and they are all going for $1200. I should have bought all of them. damn it

>>30638264
Yeah you fucking should have.

>>30635098
Wolf gold 55gr 223, vortex crossfire ii

>>30638330
I keep looking this over and thinking wtf

I was so close to buying one on Gunbroker last week too. Today was a good day

>>30631825
Handgun for the win. Unless you have zero time to practice and learn, use a handgun. Will kill someone just as dead.

More maneuverable, faster follow ups, less likely to be disarmed, free hand for doors lights and moving people if needed, less muzzle flash and noise.

>>30638264
Go buy it tomorrow faggot. They are great rifles.

>>30633475
Canadians are already trying to change the public view of Elk and Bear caliber bolt guns as "sniper" rifles, just like how all semi autos have successfully renamed asssult rifles.

>>30635411
They are trying in California.

>>30640495
I did buy one. I should get more though

>>30640576
Sauce?

Are paratrooper stocks (the classic ones) still commonly available? Heard they were getting pretty rare..

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The mini 14 is bretty good

This guy used one in the 1986 Miami FBI shootout used one to fuck up like eight FBI agents basically by himself

It seems like I've heard of it being used to devastating effect by violent Nam vets more than a few times

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>>30638342
The impression I'm getting from people is that Wolf Gold is some pretty decent stuff.

>>30641689
You mean the old Ruger factory folders like on the AC-556 and GB line guns? Yeah those aren't super common, the stockset alone is worth like $500 alone.

Pic related is an original old 180 series civilian rifle in a GB/AC-556 stock.

I kinda wanna put a Mini-14 in .300BLK in one of those old stocks and then maybe SBR it.

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>>30641729
Oh yeah, he was an Army Ranger and had a shitload of triggertime with his rifle (Mini-14GB with the factory sidefolder), like thousands of rounds every week. Shit got lit.

Also helped that he had a deathwish, was surging with adrenaline, and all the FBI agents pretty much only had .38 revolvers and 9mm pistols (with the ever mediocre Silvertips)

>>30632292
tfw I can't find accu struts in Europe ;_;

>>30642528
Obligatory

https://youtu.be/Cn6kEsloMdE

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>>30643182
You should be able to order a gunsmith or local retailer to import one for you.

It's a very worthwhile upgrade to the old rifles and I highly recommend it.

>>30643307
I love it when a thread comes together!

>>30636496
arent the new mini14 receivers injection molded? requiring very little tooling to finish.
the old ones was forged to near final shape, then milled inside the reciever. at least the m14 were/are.

>>30643182
cant you just order them online. I dont think they are considered gun parts. brownells or midway also have european online shops

>>30635608
>DI is shit

You're a fucking retard

t. Guy who owns di and long stroke piston ARs

>>30633330
>brace gun against pocket in shoulder
>holding gun tight
>knowing when the recoil happen
Totally the same as getting shot unexpectedly.