AR Thread / AR General /arg/

>>30608071
some anon made a tragic non /arg/ /arg/.

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>>30608084
yeah, it's shit.
Mine shit too because I forgot


OLD THREAD
>>30603322
>>30603322
>>30603322

>>30608093
Thread redeemed.

>Now, I'm off to take a shower to your pandora playlist. :3

Do any of you actually shoot your rifles?

From what I have seen you take out loans to build these and use them a paperweights.

Ivan, are you around? Are you only gonna have chrome 80% lowers, or will you get other colors too?

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>>30608071
Walther PP series handgun or Mk.12 upper in 6.8 SPC

Why must things cost money ;-;

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>>30608118
>tfw no trigger yet

>>30608118
lol @ actually shooting guns. Where do you think you are?

>>30608136
Get the upper

>>30608118
Going to the range tomorrow
Going shooting with /k/ next weekend.

iirc giddy and pb shoot a lot

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Fucking cancerous anons

>>30608118
what's the point of shooting them?

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What's wrong with LWRC, k/ommandos?

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>>30608171

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>>30608118
>Do any of you actually shoot your rifles?

Not really. I did just get back from the range shooting my ar that I cannot zero for the life of me. I probably have a total of ~150 rounds through it (and that's being generous) and have owned it for 2 years.

Not part of /arg/ and just skim through the threads at people's rifles. That being said, I REALLY suck shit at shooting rifle. Like 4 inch groups at 25 yards prone.
>From what I have seen you take out loans to build these and use them a paperweights.

I do admit I buy things that I don't neccesarily need at the moment like a
>D3 sling
>ADM 1/3rd mount with a PA micro
>now a freefloat handguard and light

Sometimes I question why the fuck I even bother with a rifle and not just getting a 590A1 with a light.

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>>30608118
Yeah, about twice a month. It's pretty difficult for me to get away from my day to day obligations.

>>30608183
piston is basically the issue

>>30608183
You can obtain a rifle of similar quality for a lot less $$$.

I think they're sweet though.

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>>30608196
Read

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>>30608196
kys

>>30608203
practice is key. try going to YT and watching some marksmanship vids. next time youre at the range, try out some new techniques and such

>>30608183
Excellent company, nothing wrong with them.

That rifle looks like a chernobyl shitshow retard baby

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>>30608183
>>30607744
Their fucking GOAT lower.

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>>30608118
>actually managed to shoot out a flash hider
>not a brake, a flash hider
I guess I shoot pretty often

>>30608203
Just need to practice bro.

Everyone sucks at everything when they start something new.

Stop dropping money on ninja stuff for your rifle, buy a bunch of ammo and practice with it.

>>30608235
kac>lwrc

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>>30608243
Nice job.

>>30608230
I try to perfect my fundamentals like proper prone position, breathing, trigger pull but I always get disgusting groups.

What really fucks me is how people are able to see what they're pointing at. I constantly hear about people getting sub moa groups at 100 with nothing but irons and I just don't know how they do it. At 50 yards, I can't see the bullseye since my front sight covers the entire thing and I don't know where I was aiming at when I get back on target.
>>30608244
I'm trying to make an effort to go out and practice more.

>>30608283
>I constantly hear about people getting sub moa groups at 100
unmagnified, without great trigger and ammo and barrel i srsly doubt it

in your case i am assuming a flinch

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>>30608246
Can you lock the bolt back with your trigger finger on the right side?

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>>30608171
Shut up underage+1

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>>30608118
t. neetfag

>>30608262
Did you mow your fucking lawn with that rifle?

>>30608319
What's wrong with your tripcode m8

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Which one?

>>30608343
I changed it to the owner of rainier arms cause last thread anon was talking shit about the roll mark

>>30608347
none

light for rail:

M600, M300 or X300?

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>>30608347
The middle one

>>30608355
Ah. I missed that whole cluster fuck.

>>30608347
/k/ube
I would defnitely buy a /k/ube lower

is $300 for a matched receiver set to much? it's not billet

>>30608364
600

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>>30608342
Nope, just what happens when you ride around the ranch with a rifle out here. (in an open air vehicle).

>two year old pic related

>>30608347
dank may may sperg

>>30608379
>going outside

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>>30608378
Depends on who I guess

Hey, do you have plans for another round of patches any time soon?

>>30608403
i planned on doing another run, don't know when

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>>30608364
X300 Ultra is pretty good if you could only have one light. You can use it for a pistol and both a rifle. Say you have it on your pistol, slide it off and put it on a 1913 rail on your rifle.

Currently only own an X300 Ultra but I'm thinking of getting a front sight setup like this so I can also use my X300 on both my AR and P226.

What's nice about this setup is that your light is ambidextrous and isn't obscured if you're shooting from cover with the light being still in cover.

Just something to consider.

>>30608433
Oh alright. Who besides me even got one the previous run?

But yeah dude, the normie friends of mine who see it think it's cool as shit even though they don't know what is the meaning behind it

>>30608203
Dude, set yourself up comfy, you need a rest of some sort, back pack sandbags etc. Try borrowing a spotting scope and set it up next to you. Now get your target and think to yourself, what distance do I sight this in at? 50 yards most likely. Afterward, load your Mag and chamber a round. Put it on safe, acquire the front sight and center it with your rear aperture just perfectly. Hold that position, burn it into your mind, then take the safety off and squeeze, don't pull on the trigger. If you have a stock trigger you'll feel the grit. Get familiar with it at home. Just squeeze it. Learn the point that it breaks. Once you've squeezed enough it'll go bang, let it surprise you a bit, but don't flinch. Remember also that when squeezing the trigger, don't use too much or too little finger. It can affect the point of impact. Now look through your spotting scope. Where did you hit? Low? Adjust the front sight, to the left? Adjust the rear. Do this till your rounds are hitting where you aim (center bull's-eye). If done properly you'll notice that you're walking them in! Once you have that down, attach your optic and cowitness it if able. Keep practicing proper technique, and you'll shoot good groups in no time. Even with a mosin! (If I missed something please let me know).

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>>30608283
Guess what people lie. I'm not a great shot. I can get 10/10 on a 5inch target at 100yards with my scope. I've been told to "just sell my or rifle" and that I should be able to do better with irons. The race is long and end the end it's only with yourself.

>>30608447
I've had several people ask me if my /k/ patch is my unit patch since I'm going to school for Fire / Medic and passed EMT

>>30608447
Witcheranon, parafag, you and dr8co. I'm not sure how to sell them without giving my name and shit out

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Just got the new stock and flash hider in the mail.
I went with a piston because my DI ARs were getting rekt by this can, just completely eating shit. And I went with the Noveske lower because muh magwell and I have no need for ambi controls. I think I'll rattlecan it camo now since all the important parts are Cerakoted and the tricolor is pissing me off.
In any case, I like my frankenAR

>>30608462
>5moa @ 100 w/ glass
kys

>>30608456
I do have a pack that I use as a rest and a pair of binos.

Despite owning a red dot for nearly a year, I admit I have no clue as to how to acquire a 1/3rd cowitness zero. Do you first total cowitness it then adjust the elevation on the red dot?

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>>30608469
That's funny. Silly normies

>>30608476
eBay is always an option. Seems like the most of us can keep that shit quiet since we would get our names posted if we dick around

Or use your parents names, I do that often as well

>>30608496
That might be a good strategy. I myself have a cowitnessed sight so it was never an issue, but if I were in your place, I'd probably do what you suggested. What might help also is the type of ammo you use. Make sure it's brass, and that it's not 2-4 moa tier stuff. If it can be helped, to for 2moa stuff at most.

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>>30608494
This is what I'm talking about. Pic related.

>>30608283
Dry fire until your finger bleeds, surprise yourself with the break of the trigger. You can get a thinner front sight post if you're really worried about covering the target, or do a 6 o'clock hold.

Alternatively, start at 20 yards and go further and further out until you're more comfortable.

>>30608520
>What might help also is the type of ammo you use.

I shoot Federal XM193 with a 1:7 barrel if that matters.

>>30608524
If you are using any ammunition worth a shit that is 100% your fault and manageable.

>>30608479
>I went with a piston

What piston, anon. Share.

>>30608496
1/3 cowitness covers a good bit of the front sight post, as did PEQ2A mounted on top rail when I was on active duty

a lot of us had a way harder time grouping with it mounted that way, and while you have to zero them slightly different, moved them to a side rail and were able to shoot straight again

this is why i use absolute cowitness and am not one of the Cool Kids on The Block

>standing by to get flamed

>>30608567
That's some good ammo. May just be the user then. Keep practicing the fundamentals and like another trip here said, really really get familiar with your trigger. Consistency is king in all things performance wise, whether it's playing a musical instrument or shooting jugs.

>>30608567
1:7" is meant for 62 gr. ammo or heavier and military surplus isn't what you use for tight groups anyway.

Get some Hornady 75 gr. BTHP or Federal GMM 77 gr. SMK ammo, or at least try different loads. Try a match load in 55, 62, 69, 75, and 77 gr. and see what does best in your barrel.

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>>30608479
>I have no need for ambi controls
That's what I thought until I played with an LWRC lower. I never ever shoot lefty, but I'd still pick one up just because you can both release mags and catch or release the bolt all with your trigger finger. It's pretty great honestly.

>>30608515
doesn't eBay give name and address?

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>>30608592
LWRC IC-A5 upper.
I've been researching piston ARs for the past year and from what I found the two most reliable were PWS and this one. The main reason I went with the LWRC is the heavier barrel and because PWS focuses too much on weight reduction over longevity.

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>>30608515
>want to sell some shit to people on /k/
>have special snowflake name and literally the only person in the world with my combination of first and last name
>dislike being associated with /k/ along with 4chan irl

arfcom ee it is then

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>>30608642
I think so but in return you get their info too so unless someone is going out of their way to dump your info and hide theirs you are OK

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>>30608680
>not using parents name
>not using a PO box

Cmon now

>>30608677
Noted. Thanks. Investigating that lead now.

>>30608680
>arfcom ee it is then
that should have been your first stop anyway. their EE is great

>>30608685
I'll have to look into it more. I would like to do some embroidered ones

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>>30608708
And I'd like to buy some depending on whatever you come up with tbhfam

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Should I put some more money towards finishing my SBR (stamp is coming back any day now) or should I buy a .22lr pistol that I want? It's a discontinued model and there's only 1 or 2 on gunbroker

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>>30608701
>dragging your parents into the fray of 4chan
Absolutely degenerate.

>>30608705
>their EE is great

It is. Met up with some dude to buy an SGL and got a carry handle off it. Don't really dig arfcom but the EE is pretty damn neat. A lot safer than arranging a transaction on an anonymous micronesian spear fishing symposium.

>>30608728
What pistol?

>>30608731
They will never know and considering I don't share a last name with 3 of the 4 it's fine.

>>30608719
First I would redo the pupper ones desu

>>30608735
lol no shit, i also met a guy ftf to buy an sgl21 from their EE

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>>30608752
How come? And didn't you have a few others in the works?

Post your optics fags

>>30608753
How much did you pay for yours? I got a 31 for ~$900.

>>30608705
>mfw I don't have an email they'll accept
fuckers
>>30608728
pistol
Is that the SL-K?
From what you can tell so far, do you like it?
I was going to get one for my pistol when I SBR it.

>>30608770
Because I want it embroidered, I don't like the pvc. I have a few more but I don't know if anyone likes them. I'll probably post in the patch thread and get some feedback

>>30608619
implying you can't dope in with military ball

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>>30608071
Fuck you and your dress :^)

>>30608745
Ruger 22/45 Lite, but the one with the black fluted barrel, not the blue or green ones they make currently. It's like $430 on gunbroker, but I have like $1200 to finish my SBR, not including optic

>>30608778
It is the SL-K, I like it a lot so far. It's compact, lightweight, solid and cheap. It has a little more wobble to it than a CTR but still better than most stocks without a friction lock

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>>30608745
>They will never know
Unless assholes decide to dox them/fuck with them to mess with you.
>I don't share a last name with 3 of the 4 it's fine
Well, that sounds like it might work for you, but don't think that's the case for a lot of people.

>>30608773
Ok

>>30608801
It's gonna be so cute
I dunno if I'll be cute but the dress definitely will be
>>30608807
I guess it depends on how commonly that version shows up on GB.
Couldn't you just get a blue or green painted?
Also thanks for the opinion, I'm pretty sure that's what I'm going to go with.

>>30608071
Paint job is cancelled out by that faggy ass rail

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>>30608789
Post them here bch

>>30608807
You don't have more funds you could build up for the SBR?

>>30608835
>it works for you
That's why I do it m8

>>30608911
Mcfucking kill yourself

>>30608796
>implying its anywhere near optimal

Why is there no rifle length gas system on 16" barrels ? I read it's only 15.75 inches on the barrel

>>30608071
What's a good lpk to use wth a mega billet ambi lower?

>>30608924
>Mcfucking kill yourself

I stand corrected. That rail is worse

>>30608634
I agree, they are slicker than owl shit. But I've been trained really hard with regular right hand ARs and change frightens me. I'm just getting started in 3gun so I may pick up an ambi lower in the future.
Where are you located? Looks like south Texas, maybe Dimmit county?

>>30608938
>implying optimal matters if all you need to know is 4cm/25m

i hate being captain obvious, but im sure we agree that optimal is setting zero with the load you're going to use -- this guy has _way_ bigger fish to fry than that, tho, and ammo is not whats fucking him up

>>30608857
I just don't like how those ones look, even the porting they do, and they're actually a little too lite for me. It's going to be a suppressor host so I don't want it to be too front heavy, just not a brick like the all steel ones

>>30608924
I have more funds but I don't want to drain my account, I can afford one or the other at the moment. I have $1200 left for the SBR, total cost with optic and suppressor and 2 tax stamps will be around $4k

>>30608776
$1000. came with vltor stock adapter, ctr stock, magpul grip, and ultimak tube (plus all the factory stuff). sold everything but the grip so net price $800

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>>30608952
No it's not. What is actually worse is having to share the planet with walking skelletons

>>30608943
because the rifle wouldn't cycle

>>30608924
Don't have em on my phone. I'll do it when I get home

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>>30608943
Probably because it wouldn't be reliable, so no one makes it.
Look into true dissipator builds, or dissys in general.
Lots of people make faux dissys because true dissys aren't properly reliable
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=493277
>>30608972
Ah.
I didn't realize there was a materials difference

>>30608972
Yikes

>>30608990
Fair enough

>mfw gonna have to go past November to get this build done

I might just get an inexpensive stock before I get my UBR instead of waiting to spend nearly $300 on just that >>30608990

>>30608943
Wouldn't that be under gassed as fuck?

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>>30609020
such is the life of lightweight suppressed .300blk SBR building

>>30609020
Jesus

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Hey AR fags
I need new BUI's for my AR-15
Is Magpul MBUS a meme or 2legit to quit?
Which one of these should I get?
Is the LR really worth it?
[Atm they're about the same price tho...]
I only plan of 200-300 max with iron anyways
Also I'm a p00r fag and don't have the money for Knights armament so
>inb4 KA buis
Thx AR bros for ur infinite wisdom...

>>30609104
?

>>30609113
KAC stolen valor

>>30609113
mbus is ok if you are poor

>>30609126
>going past November for your build

>>30609019
>Look into true dissipator builds, or dissys in general.
or if you wanna cover a buncha barrel, just get a 14.5 pin weld and a rifle length rail with whatever gas system

>>30609150
Yeah...if I don't get the side charger I can get it much sooner but I've been pretty fucking adamant about getting it and I really don't want to have to wait. Fuck me

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>>30609217
Get the gun finished sooner*

;_;

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Franklin Armory just said the reason fostech is pushing back their trigger release dates over and over is because they don't have ATF approval yet and probably wont get it because of their faux auto sear. They will probaly have to redesign them to be more like franklin's now. Especially with the trigger pack lawsuit going around.

Just in time for the BFS V3 which is a milspec style replacement. It should drop right into poorly machined 80% lower FCG pockets now and work with 22lr/7.62x39 conversions for cheap magdumps.

>>30609239
It'll be worth it, sidegcharging is awesome.
You should get an adjustable gas block that lets you turn off the gas too.

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How do I get this rust and shit off this surplus carry handle, I tried blasting it with WD 40 and break cleaner and it just won't come off

>>30609259
Yeah but i don't think I can get it done before November ;_;

>>30609262
Soak in CLP

>>30609262
CLP and copper bore brush. If you are afraid of scratching the finish you can use a normal gun toothbrush but it will take much longer.

Is stock on pistol length rifle illegal? Why though

>>30608118
>actually shooting your guns and diminishing the value
kek

naw m8 we just buy the most gucci shit to shitpost while waiting for the next habbening to sell at a profit

>>30609259
>>30609217
>sidegcharging
Does this pretty much turn the AR into a bolt action if you turn the gas off? Would it noticeably improve velocity or does the gas used to cycle have negligible energy?

Can you cowitness and use Irons through a scope like the Strike Eagle?

Would the magnification mess with it at all?

>>30609336
See >>30609239

It's just an alternative location for the charging handle is all

>>30609336
Turning off gas in any AR would make it a single shot.

>>30609361
Magnification will make the front sight dissapear

>>30609318
A stock on any rifle that is less than 16"
in fixed barrel length is considered an SBR, under the National Firearms Act(NFA)

For example, a 10.5 inch barrel AR with a stock would be an SBR, and thus an NFA Item.

To legally have NFA items, you must file for a tax stamp and pay 200 dollars to the ATF.

This takes months

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Interesting
http://www.alloutdoorstech.com/photo-video/tyan/colt-canada-developing-a-new-combat-rifle-us-marine-corps/

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>>30609287
I'm not too worried about the finish it will probably end up duracoated in the future anyways

>>30609391
C L P
L
P

but let it soak overnight.

>>30609217
Side chargers are gay senpai

Whats the deal with adjustable gas keys? Useful for a 5.56 16" carbine? What about an 8.5" 300 blk?

>>30609423
NO

>>30609387
mlok and some retarded key mod?

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Weaver mount upper is the best

>>30609443
yes.

>>30609249
Damnit I hope not. Did they push the dates back again? I've had one ordered but if they keep pushing back I'm gonna be pissed.

Anyone else hear these rumors?

>>30609473
Yer, pushed back to october.

>>30609460
WRONG KYS

>>30609440
useful if you want to tune for absolute minimum recoil like some people do in 3gun
or for suppression

>>30609513
So for the 300blk if I'mm getting a suppressor.

Wasn't 300blk designed to go from suppressed to unsuppressed with nothing more than a mag change? Why would I need to tune it?

>>30609534
It's a comfort thing when using .300blk I think?
Tuning for function is more a 5.56 thing since that was meant to be run out of a 20" barrel and people like to use it in shorter barrels.

I recommend fact checking my statements in this post because I'm not 100% and don't have a .300blk upper, let alone a suppressor. (yet)

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>>30609460
>>30609490
Forward charging handle a best. :^)

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>>30609578
WRONG KYS

>>30609382
Isn't the brace a work around also is it the same process for a silencer? What if someone just bought the upper you don't need tax stamp?

is the Cryptic mystic black worth it?

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>>30609249
Someone needs to start cloning these

I would go all in if they were reasonably priced at 250

>>30609473
Aparently Franklin thinks they got the Geissele Rapid Fire trigger treatment -
They submitted a letter asking if it was non-NFA and never got a reply.

>>30609585
>it's a gc is wrong episode
I'm tired of re runs tbhwy

>>30609619
Depends on what's "worth it" to you. I say yes but some poorfags will say no

>>30608569
That isn't too bad. Show me you 100yrd targets? Give me something to aim for.

>>30609488
Just talked to a Fostech employee and shot a few questions at her. Luckily I placed my order early enough that I do expect October delivery. They pushed it back to the 3rd quarter of 2016 for "an issue with tolerances and coatings". Here's what I got:

>What were the issues with the tolerances and coatings?
"I don't have the exact specifications, what I do know is when we received the triggers they were not up to our standards and we are having them sent back so that they can be redone to our specifications."
>So the trigger packs are made out of house by a company other than Fostech?
For the most part, yes. I dunno what that means exactly.
>How did the triggers receive ATF approval? I have yet to see a letter confirming that.
She put me on hold, found it and is sending me a copy of the letter tomorrow.
>What are the shipping date expectations?
Early orders placed in February, March, April can expect a 6 month lead time. Orders placed today are expected to be filled in January of next year.

So I guess that's that, you can expect an ATF letter tomorrow. I'll be working but get it to you when I can.

>>30609601
Lets say you buy a pistol length upper.

No, you don't need a tax stamp.

Its when you put a stock on the lower, but DONT FUCK WITH THE ATF ABOUT IT.

If you are building a pistol, then buy the components needed for a pistol, DONT HAVE "EXTRA" stocks in the same case, for example.

There is such thing as possesive intent.

Yeah its very similar if not identical to a suppressor.

And yeah the braces are cool:^)

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Went ahead and cut off my handguard retainer, gonna move on to the delta ring assembly soon.

>>30609634
I don't have any saved but I expect 3" with my AK irons and I'm not a good shot.

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>>30609626
Selling my upper to a friend and want to upgrade. I'll probably go with another BCM stripped upper and BCM BFH barrel, but going lo-pro gas block and longer dickmod or mcuck rail.

Also thinking about going with the raptor charging handle instead of BCM and Cryptic bcg instead of BCM.

I figure if I'm building a new upper, I might as well upgrade.

>>30609662
Smells like bullshit desu

Also those are horrible outsourcing practices

I guess we will see tomorrow.

>>30609680
I hope your rifle KB's

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>>30609020
>November

>>30609727
I hope you choke on a tendie

Link related for anyone wanting a cheap mil spec BCG


http://palmettostatearmory.com/freedom-5-56mm-tested-full-auto-bolt-carrier-group-mp-507608.html?trk_msg=N7CN1U0CJ79418DEHJAB96QDN0&trk_contact=971LJ69Q069SEPUFOOE5F41DJ8&utm_source=Listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fpalmettostatearmory.com%2ffreedom-5-56mm-tested-full-auto-bolt-carrier-group-mp-507608.html&utm_campaign=Daily+Deal+Email&utm_content=5%3a00+Email

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>>30609680
Good luck.

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>>30609743
More people should do this.

Plate carrier and the german M193 arrived. I'm pleased with both.

First time gun buyer here. What AR-15 should I get from where?

What kind of taxes and extra costs should I expect.

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>>30608118

kys

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>>30609841
Read

You should build an AR.

If you buy a complete lower, and a complete upper, the only other cost will be the FFL transfer fee and a pair of sights.

You can build a good for 650

>>30608373

me too

>>30608071
Which caliber of pistol caliber carbines would be the most accurate at a distance? Could you accurately shoot out to 200yds with like a 10mm ar15 style pistol/rifle?

>>30609680
You're trying to use the FSB with a free float handguard right?

I gave up on it because installing the FSB on a barrel that doesn't have it factory mounted looks like it needs to be done by a gunsmith according to everything I read.

Did you buy a pre-made M16 upper assembly or mount the FSB yourself?

>>30609869
we should make this happen`

>>30609893
Don't try to reach 200 yards with a pistol caliber.

>>30609973

The only way to do it would be to get a company to do a run of them, but then we'd have to order like at least 100. Would also have to be an FFL to come into possession of that many lowers I'd imagine. Other option is to somehow get some 80% lowers with that rollmark, that would be a lot less hassle.

>>30609866
Thanks anon.

>>30608205
what Fjallraven pants are those? I have been eyeballing some Vidda Pro Longs.

BCM BFH barrel or Rainier Hammer Forged? Which is better?

>>30608183
what chest rig is that

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>mfw anon saved my screenshot for psi

>>30609684
Raptor and cryptic are both great

>>30609662
If they send you the 2013 letter for Hawbaker's patent (the guy who they bought the idea from) they are just stalling you to hold on to your preorder. They need a separate approval for their newly designed trigger.

Every time you change something with a design riding so closely to the edge of being NFA you need to verify and reverify legality with the ATF.

>>30609743
I actually got both of my FSB pins out with a punch and hammer just fine.

>>30610100
better in what metric? theyll preform the same, get whichever is cheaper

>>30610100
Probably can't go wrong with either. Whatever's cheaper. FWIW, Rainier has really good customer service and guarantees MOA accuracy on some of their barrels (idk about the one you posted though).

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>>30608071
Speaking of camo paint...

I am an AKFag, but you lot are a lot more well-versed in these arts.

Does there exist something like Plastidip, where when I don't want it anymore, or would like to change it, it's easily removable? I know it's probably impossible due to all of the heat and gasses, but I don't really want a permanent solution like cerakote.

>>30610173
Yeah standard AK finishes work well for what you're asking.

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>>30608071
How am I doing so far on this build, /arg/? I've got a KAK Shockwave brace coming in the mail tomorrow and I'll be picking up an Aimpoint T2 soon.

>>30610141
>>30610160
feed ramp/longevity/accuracy

>>30610173
>all that reliability
>eotech

>>30610173
camo wrap would be your best bet.

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>>30610197
Haha top notch bantz.

I'm beginning to realize that building up gear is going to cost as much if not more than a semi-gucci rifle.

>>30609683
Well, the next time you are out, take some pics. Sure they can be faked by shooting at 5yrds or whatever but I'll wager you aren't as good a shot as you think.

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my AR is FDE, I find it kind of boring. Was thinking of something like pic related. Suggestions on paint/pattern?

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Seeking bullet upper and lower
Diamondhead vrs rail
DD S2W 18" barrel
JP enhanced colt
ALG combat trigger
Vltor A5 stock system
Millet DMS-1

>>30610291
>enhanced bolt*

>>30610238
kek

also the whole eotech thing is blown completely out of proportion, biggest thing is they did some shady shit by lying about specs

No ones ever experienced these problems during actual use except when they decided to do some extreme testing in a controlled environment

>>30610232
>feed ramp
i dont know. assuming neither look like shit (and ive never heard anything to imply that they would be), either is fine.
>longevity
CHF will last a long time for both barrels.
>accuracy
CHF arent known for accuracy, but to ask which one will be more accurate is impossible to say. not only is it gods data, but itd a sample size of one.

i realize your looking for info to sway you one way or the other, but in likelihood, either would be a good choice.
if i have to choose, my vote goes for the BCM. only because it seems like a lot of people use them and RAs chf barrel is newer

>>30610276
I also realized this a while back.

A good PC, Plates, IFAK, Belt, Boots, Backpack, pair of Camis, helmet, and NV actually costs a ton more than my rifle ever did.

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I just bought my first AR -- coming in the mail this Friday. Any tips /k/?

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>>30609946
>Did you buy a pre-made M16 upper assembly or mount the FSB yourself?
Factory-mounted by Armalite when I got the M-15A2 carbine a couple years back.

>>30610045
Keb

>>30610400
Sell it and buy something not colt

>>30610400
Buy ammo and mags.

Preferably M193, stay away from M855.

Stick to PMAGs and Lancers

>>30610423
But why though?

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>>30610435
He's retarded. No need to listen to him.

>>30610322
kek
i bet thats what you said when your ak didn't eat steel case

>>30610400
lol, i was bidding on that gun also. i wanted something to store away from a rainy day but bids got too high

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>>30610432
Done and done. Buying more ammo soon.

>>30608479
More Money Than Sense: The Rifle

>>30610480
Have fun m8

A lot of us use Wolf Gold 55g. Its a good cheap M193 load that runs reliably.

>>30610451
Sweet looking rig man. I won't put an optic on mine for a while. I will stick with something short range, like a red dot or something. But idk, I kind of like iron sights.

>>30610496
Thanks. I want to start reloading soon, but I live in an apartment and my wife with have a conniption if I put it in the guest bedroom.

>>30610451
>>30610423
>>30610435
I had a 6920, sold it because I didn't want to fool with the FSB, and for the price it wasn't worth upgrading it
It's not a bad rifle, and if you plan on not doing that shit, it's fine

>>30610515
Mount it to two 2x4a. Keep it in closet until ready to use, c clamp to table, g2g

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>>30610451
Kys

>>30610435
All memes aside the gun is fine. Colt just thinks they can charge more because colt brand colt.

>>30610549
This is correct

>>30610549
>>30610605
>>30610559
Thanks for the advice guys. I have owned guns my entire life but just recently started making enough to buy a nice-ish AR once I started my real job after college.

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>>30609249
>Franklin Armory just said the reason fostech is pushing back their trigger release dates over and over is because they don't have ATF approval yet and probably wont get it because of their faux auto sear

Source pls.

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>>30610616
The general consensus is that most prebuilt rifles are OK but you end up spending more money to replace / customize parts than if you had just built to start with.

How easy is it to assemble an AR15 with a PSA rifle kit and a stripped lower?

Is it cheaper to be worth it buying a rifle kit and a stripped lower over just buying an AR15?

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>>30610616
In all honestly, if it's your first ar-15 it's not bad, but if you want something later down the road, build or buy a complete rifle with rail etc
What I was going to do to it was almost the same price as pic

>>30610628
www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/697945_Franklin_Armory_Gen_3_BFS_Released_.html

Read the whole thread, Franklin armory makes quite a few posts

>>30610690
>Our sources say that ATF will never approve a sear trip again, but we will see. If it is legal, Fostech will have an early lead in the market, and hats off to them if they get it approved. However, I believe Fostech is waiting for that letter and that is why some reports are claiming a possible December release.

Oh shit.

>>30609662
Breh, just order a milspec FCG or something, that shit is getting ridiculous.

Does anyone know where to get a KAC stripped lower?

Just like the rollmark and what the ambi features.

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>>30610704
>HOWEVER

Dat industry drama

>>30610721
they don't sell stripped lowers
so unless you find someone wanting to strip it and then sell it, good luck

>>30609456
what upper

What is a revocable trust?

>>30610738
What's the cheapest you can even get one?

I have no interest in the SOPMOD or trigger.

>>30610775
700 lmfao

>>30610788
Fug dat

Is there a guide somewhere with photos of every manufacturer roll mark?

>>30610809
>every manufacturer roll mark
There's way too many to do that.
Look around and you'll find lots

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>>30610809
heres one for you

Thoughts on this?:

Camouflage is intended to make an object not stand out. Why don’t we apply the theories of camouflage to our tactical gear?

Black doesn’t occur in nature and it probably shouldn’t occur on guns that we want to blend in
Black guns are black because your can’t see them at night, in the darkness. This is the same reason that the cat burglar wears black. This implies that you are expecting to work under the cover of darkness who does that from a defensive standpoint? Even military typically uses more natural colors.
Black guns scare the sheeple, they see them as offensive weapons. Why would we want to have an AR-15 with scary pictures of spiders or zombie face stabbing flash hiders entered into evidence for a grand jury?

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>>30610855
Uh

It's sorta common sense.

Black is one of the worst colors you can use for camo.

Greetings /arg/. Nofuns faggot here wanting to get a nice, but not too expensive AR to start shooting. Not really capable of, or sure of what would go into, building one from a parts kit.

Budget is 1k, and I just want something accurate enough that I can be sure my shit groupings aren't the fault of the rifle in some way. What can you guys recommend for me to get started learning the way of the AR?

>>30610871
colt 6920

>>30610854
Yeah, yeah. It's nice, but not $700 nice for the trouble it would be.

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is this some kinda bait-and-switch fuckery?

>https://www.cdnnsports.com/ar15-custom-upper-300blk-16in-lwrc-rail-receiver.html?___SID=U

>>30610855
Black guns are black because some of the most resilient coatings naturally end up black
>QPQ melonite
>phosphate
>other stuff
Most people will camo their guns if it matters, but a lot of people only bring them to the range so it doesn't.

>>30610871
ignore >>30610881
buy a forged lower
BCM upper
PSA PREMIUM BCG (PREMIUM)
I'm honestly not sure about lpk, anyone else have better advice?

>>30610871
BCM upper.

PSA Lower.

Read this>>30609866

>>30610936
>>30610915
>>30610881
today i learned i should fully read threads instead of skimming

thank you all.

>>30610885
a cheapo 300 blackout upper with a lwrc freefloat rail attached

>>30610961
it's fine, I never skim

>>30610884
What trouble?

>>30611043
Removing the stock and putting my UBR on it, then selling the Stock.
Selling the Trigger.
Losing the money when I could buy another lower for less than $100 just to have an attractive roll mark (yeah, I'm an aesthetics whore).

>>30611078
What's wrong with the trigger?
The stock is tha best tho

>>30611078
>ubr
disgusting

>>30611110
Inferior to a Giselle.
I'm told the Old SR-25 era KAC trigger is the best ever though.

>>30611150
~Geissele

>>30611150
its literally a pound on the back more than the jizzelle
you want to pay 250 bucks for a 1 pound decrease on the back portion?

Anyone know where I can find a BCM stripped upper assembly right now?

>>30611183
Weight is not the only aspect of a trigger pull.

And I'd be paying ~$300 more for the KAC.

>>30611202
It's fine, get what you want, I'm just saying the KAC trigger is fine, no reason to pay 250 bucks for that shit

>>30611234
the kac trigger is worth more than the geissele.

>>30611245
it's not, because it isn't as good (but not that much worse)

Christ, that /pol/ thread where the euros are freaking out NOW about their gun rights, after 37 people utterly gutted them. Fucking sheep.

Anyhoo, can I get opinions on this barrel?

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2228745849/ar-stoner-barrel-ar-15-223-remington-wylde-medium-contour-1-in-8-twist-fluted-stainless-steel

It checks all the boxes I wanted to meet, seemingly. Stainless, .223 wylde hybrid chamber, 18", mid-length gas, medium profile.

am i the only one here that likes some milspec triggers

(Specifically the Spikes tatical battle trigger)

>>30611288
I dont know about mil spec but i do prefer single stage

>>30611288
I had the ALG mil-spec trigger that was pretty nice until I went to the SSA. Still, not a bad trigger at all for $50

what are the cheapest iron sights on the market?

Got a friend who built his first AR but he "doesn't need iron sights" so I want to buy some set for him

>>30611324
magpul MBUS

>>30611334
>$80+ for a set
anything else that is metal and not 100% shit or is this how the AR market is? ( I've never owned/built an ar just ak)

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So this was waiting for me in the mail when I got home from work.

Doesn't feel very slick, in comparison to a NiB BCG, but it felt good when lubed up and cycling the action. Looks great though! Can't wait to try it out.

>>30611288
You can use whatever trigger you want as long as you Kys w/ it

I'd suggest getting a better job but we know you won't do that

>>30611334
>>30611347
so are these magpul sights the cheapest non shit iron sights possible?

>>30611347
>anything else that is metal and not 100% shit

Polymers fine, if you want metal and not shit expect to pay 100-200, you can get mbus for 65-70 if you look around

Good metal BUIS
magpul BUIS PRO
KAC BUIS
TROY BUIS

>>30611347
probably a set of fixed DDs then. around $100 for the pair

>>30611390
>
k thanks mate. really just any "iron" sights i guess, all he has right now is some shitty wal mart red dot

Are all these fruity ass KAC and Geissele triggers compatible with auto FCGs?

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>>30611358
gucci m8

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>>30611372
>is so poor it will take him a year to build a poor fag special

>tells me to kms and get a better job

>implying you wouldn't like taking out a dozen plus dead gold fish out of garden ponds

>>30611386
Yes

>>30611414
If you get the full auto one ya

>>30611131
Nothing wrong with a UBR.

Besides, my 20 wouldn't fit in my shitty safe with an A2.

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Have some free shipping. Also, should I get some wolf or something else. Plinking out to 200 yards.

https://www.targetsportsusa.com/223-remington556mm-nato-ammo-c-83.aspx#Pr5.99_311.97|

>>30611358
who cares how slick it is. it's gucci af

>>30610137
I'll keep that in mind and rail them on it if that's what I get. It's too bad that I can never get ahold of anyone from management or R&D even being part of an FFL.

thanks, you guys are alright for ar niggers

I hope my buddy will actually use these sights

"bro I don't need iron sights I'll carry around batteries"

>>30611416
Does one need to be a columbian drug lord to own that bcg? If so I'm willing.

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>>30611446
You want an in, esse?

>>30611446
drugs are degenerate so no

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>>30611427
Do you do a lot of ponds in your area? Not many people around here do

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>>30611477
Finally you say something not stupid, thanks

>>30611477
>doing drugs is degenerate
FTFY

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where were you when quad rail was kill?

i was at home watching trabis halee shoot paper terrists

frend calls

"rail is kil"

"no"

and you???

>>30611499
Realistically when did the quad rail die? I'm a youngfag and don't remember a defined point really. They were super popular in the early 2000's with the ban lift.

>>30611499
What are you replacing it with?

>>30611499
are you okay?

>>30611499
Is that yours?

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>>30611478
Yes and no, this was the first service call on a pond this year that i did, I think we have a couple pond accounts. Unfortunately these fuckers died from something in the water (cleaned out the pond yesterday) and the fat old lady was to lazy to take out the one or two that died and just left them in over night causing a chain reaction so most of them expired

>>30611499
M A S T E R R A CE
K
E
Y
M
O
D

>>30611416
You got a candy cane with yours?
I got two lifesavers

>>30611436
kek

>>30611446
drugs are bad. mmkay?

>>30611509
probably around the time the AWB sun setted.

>>30611494
selling them is just as degenerate m8

>>30611545
no, just that mint.

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>>30611509
>>30611511
>>30611512
>>30611524
>>30611540

>not a single appropriate response

you disappoint me.

being replaced with pic related.

>>30611572
did you get your mbt?

>>30611572
You should get these for them

https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=1346

>>30611427
poor fishies

Also the gibbz upper and ubr kind of prevent it from being a poorfag special

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>>30611540
Fat old women are the worst kek

>>30611572
What was the appropriate reply you cuck?

>>30611603
In every slot

>>30611622
This isn't an Orlando night club

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>>30611603
Wow that is fucking cancer

>>30608233
I like the mismatched look

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>>30611589

all the fun stuff comes tomorrow, i just felt like getting the rail off tonight for some reason

>>30611603

no, rob.

>>30611618

>californian calling an michigander a cuck

thats rich m8. also, kys

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>>30611499
Wtf did I just read?

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>>30611675

its a meme you dip

>>30611666
i agree with satan, i also like it as is

>>30608379
>driving around doing ranching shit and shooting
How is it?

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>>30611674
Gaylord, you didn't answer my question, Gaylord

Has anyone ordered from DSG Arms? Should I avoid them or are they g2g?

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>>30611686

sure i did, kys.

>>30611691

shipping rates are fucking dildos but they are legit.

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>>30611695
If you pay for parts to finish my AR and send them to me I'll KMS on live stream.

>>30611683
Well I'm not well versed in maymays so sorry sperg lord

>>30611697
They're the only place I can find a BCM stripped upper in stock right now unfortunately

>>30608071
>TFW bayonet arrived today
>tfw lost key to my mailbox today
>Tfw bayonet is stiting in abox in my mailbox unable to clip onto my bayonet lug for prosperity

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>>30611709

tempting

>>30611716

>he doesnt study memes as if they were the word of the lord

GET OUT NORMIE

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>>30611752
Do it.

>>30611720

Pick up some other shit too. They are pretty good for magazines (I think M3 mags are $99 for 10) and small parts.