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AK General /akg/
Chinese Bakelite Edition
>Thread #13

Old thread here >>30527240
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OK guys, BLM is coming to your house to kill your white ass, but not before making you a cuck. What AK do you fight the race war with?
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>>30547576
Jokes on them on them im single.

SLR-107FR, SAM7SF as back up.
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>>30547576
All of them
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>>30547576
None because I have no AK
Maybe I'll be able to take out a few with my durr huntin rifle and shitty polack P64.
I will join you as a commiebloc rifle brother in august.
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>>30547576
M70AB2 with my 100 round chink drum would be a good start.
>BLM meet GT
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Thinking about investing in one o' them amd65 hungarian variants. Any opinions on those?
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>>30547723
It's enough to fight your way to someone to loan you a Kalashnikov. I have more than I can carry
>also can't watch my back at all time
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>>30547576

It's a choice between my SLR-107fr with US Palm grip and ALG AK trigger.

Or my AR homebuild with BCM BFH chromed upper/bcg, magpul furniture, Stag LPK and buffer tube assembly, and Geissele SSA-E trigger.
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>>30547773
True enough, that one interview with the guy from Sarajevo said the same. Doesn't matter how many guns you have if you don't have a group to use them. If SHTF you better hope you have people
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>>30547795
They are light enough to take both no?
>slr would be my choice
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>>30547801
I think a group of 4-5 people is ideal.
Trained in basic firearms and shooting safety so nobody trips and gets one to the back
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>>30547814

Not gonna lie, those ARfags don't lie when they say their gun is much lighter, especially when comparing with a loaded mag in each.

I can only imagine carrying 15-20 mags fully loaded mags on you while navigating the war torn cities of the former USA.
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>>30547834
If you're in for the long haul like the Bosnian man was, the more the merrier as long as you can secure food. That shouldn't be a problem with stockpiling. I'd post the cap but I'm on mobile and I'm sure everyone has seen it. Lots of good advice, worth looking at for anyone thato hasn't seen it.
Here's the link actually, 2 minute Google search but it's really good.
http://www.naturalnews.com/040249_bosnia_preppers_survival_strategies.html
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>>30547845
Meh my ar was light, but the 74 is not much heavier.
> don't even notice a difference the 5.45 vs 5.56 weight
Honestly load up and go out hiking with full shit kit it will help you develope said kit for what is needed. Also test your weight limits for carry
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My m72B kit arrived from Numrich. Pics to come once I get the cosmoline off of everything.
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>>30547543
where do you get furniture like that?
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>>30548713
China
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>>30548801
Got a site you can point me to?
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Where do you guys but your surplus 7.62 magazines? Are Korean drum magazines shit? Are magpul's gtg?
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>>30548811
They haven't been imported in years.
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>>30548867
Both are shit.
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Hey /k/omrades, I'm trying to get into AKs. Right now, I'm a university student and my on-campus job nets about 360 a month, which I try to save the majority of. What's a good, lower priced AK brand/model I can look for thats NYS compliant? Basically no pistol grip and no muzzle brake, but I can do research to find a way around that.

Also, what are some good non-corrosive ammo brands that I can buy so I don't get pits in my barrel? I don't know if most AKs have resistant coatings for that, so I appreciate you guys helping out a newbie :)
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>>30547576
>magpul stock
>rails
>forward grip
>flip up sights
Just get a fucking AR man.
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>>30549267
>Just get a fucking AR man.

>stop liking things I don't like

It's not even his rifle, now kindly fuck off Summer
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>>30549198
Any recommendations on where to buy surplus magazines?
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>>30549300
Aim surplus
Apex Gun parts
J and G sales (occasionally)
SGAmmo

I'm sure there's more, but those are my go to
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>>30549300
Aimsurplus. Whatacountry. AKFiles marketplace. Chimps or Zasta
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What about a Chinese with American plastic furniture?
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Who out there is selling AK-74s (or a Tantal even) for anything between 500-800$?

Everywhere I go they're either 1000+$ or not in stock.
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Post bakelite
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I shot a 7.62 Ruger Mini-30 the other day. The scope was sighted in for 100 yards and I was at 25 (indoor range) so I couldn't get an acurate measure of accuracy. The groups, although way off center were still decent for my level of gun experience so far. All in all I think 7.62 is great but if I were to have a gun that shot it, I'd definitely need an AK and not a Mini-30. It'll have to wait though because I want to get an AR-15 before the US gets fucked after the last 3 shootings recently. Convince me why I should get an AK before instead
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>>30549267
No, I agree with anon there, that's not using an AK like an AK
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>>30549718
Because when the Orwellian legislation follows and the constitutionalists start to push for secession, the Russian Federation has promised to aid Texas separatists.

Start getting 5.45 and 7.62 weapons.
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>>30549344
Been thinking of putting some of that MOE on my Norinco.

How do you like it? Was the installation easy?
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>>30549718
>Convince me why I should get an AK before instead
It's super low maintenance, and gets job done.
if you wanna have "best of both worlds", find a 5.56 AK.
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>>30547576
I'm not white.
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DIDS DA AK THRD?
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Opinions on gas tube charging handles? Looks like a really nice thing to have.
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>>30550204
What part to make charging handle ambi? I would like this in my life.
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>>30550285
AK is already made for lefties
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>>30550285
Travis used an ACR charging handle and had it welded to his carrier group and his dust cover cut for the handle.

Should be easy for any semi-competent machine shop as well as relatively cheap.
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Hi, Europoor (francistan) here, is the AKM a good first weapon ? Link related. http://www.esistoire.fr/produit/AKMRADOM/akm-47-polonaise-fabrication-radom-cal-762x39-cat-b4.html
Going to have my licence soon.
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>>30547899
are these pics taken with a GoPro?
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>>30550316
They make an aftermarket lefty charging handle already. It comes with a dust cover that has a cutout for it.
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>>30548867
I just got my Korean drum mag today, looks neat. Havent shot yet. Also got my manicure arms stock
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>>30550314
Call me lazy, but I think it would be faster to reload and charge without having to flip the rifle over or take your hand off the pistol grip. When I reload my ak I tuck the butt to the inside elbow like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utqc53kXT98 so not having to flip the gun all the way over would be awesome.

>>30550316
Very interesting. If this is cheaper than the galil style one this is what Im doing. It looks better tho.
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I don't know if I'm doing this shit right but we'll see what it looks like after the first coat of shellac dries.
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>>30550176
Sell me your wood if you do. I need a set for a bwk-92 and cant find shit on files.
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>>30550176
Also, Moe is easy but the stock's mounting setup is more complex than necessary and a bit flimsy. It can be sturdy if you rig up a conventional screw setup instead of their flimsy machine screw/tab setup.
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>>30547576
AKS-74U original please
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>>30547576
Jokes on you I'm latin, but that don't mean I won't be targeted.cbut I'll use my gp1975.
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Rails finally came in for muh NPAP
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I'm a noob. Are the Century AK clones (That's what they are, no?) good?
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Give it to me straight /akg/, do 7.62x39 FMJs (lets assume M67 Yugo style) cause less tissue injury than 5.56x45 FMJs?

Whether it's /arg/ or the local range fudds, they talk about how the 5.56x45 "explodes in soft tissue" and causes far more grievous injuries, whereas a 7.62x39 will merely "punch straight through".

But I've seen far too many raw meat tests to immediately say that the x39 is an "inferior round for creating lethal wounds vs the 5.56".
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>>30552606
Should have went with Midwest industries I had one and it was solid as fuck
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>>30552895
5.56 will also "punch right through" except it will punch a smaller hole. If you're using 5.56 for home defense or something you should definitely look at Hornady TAPs or comparable bullets. 5.56 ball is a shitty man stopper tbqh.
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Is it worth investing in a chrome lined barrel for my npap m70? I'm also wanting on getting a scope and an upper rail.

Pls answer pls.
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>>30553051
If you want a chrome lined barrel you shouldn't have gotten a fucking M70 m8. Way too much trouble to replace it.
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>>30552754
I'd get a WASR if that's the price range you're in. Check Atlanticfirearms.
I had a century gun once. It had a problem and I sent it in. 2 months later I got it back and the problem wasn't fixed and they had added some new dings to my VZ top cover.
Avoid century made guns, they are spotty in their QC and guns are too expensive to gamble on.
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can someone school me on AMDs? are the kits worth it with a US made barrel? what about prebuilts from classic? AMD-65 and AMD-63
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>>30553000
I just can't make you happy, huh?

>check'd
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are the Yugo Zastava mags with Bolt Hold Open in Blued Steel by Matra any good?
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>>30553110
Nah I'm a difficult person haha
>the wood looked better
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as someone who shoots 5.56, 308, and 7.62x39 AK pattern guns, is there a reason i should jump into 5.45? i ask because it does interest me somewhat, and even without cheap 7n6 around, new production isnt that expensive. whats holding me back is the idea of yet another caliber to stock up on, as well as the investment cost of atleast 10 decent magazines and then the gun itself.
this is for dirt shooting and paper punching. thoughts?
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>>30553691
I'd say no if you have a 5.56 ak. they really don't act that much differently.
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>>30553917
thats what i thinking. practically, it doesnt make sense.
but mfw i see something like an slr104 with plum hg, plum mag, and triangle folder
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>>30553691
>>30553954
It's nice having both but at this point, I'd probably stay focused on the other calibers unless you want it for collection purposes.
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>>30553954
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not my pic, but this just looks sooo right
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>>30553691
Definitely should switch over, now would you send me you're email so I can buy all you're 7.62x39 and mags, would you like money order or PayPal?
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if i buy an ak74 off of kvar and it has the regular polymer stock, where do i get a triangle folder? where does arsenal get theirs?
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>>30554082
also where to get nice plum/wood sets? unfortunately kvar is sold out of everything except the one with the regular style stock
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>>30553691
>>30553954

I recently asked myself this since I was thinking about buying a new rifle (didn't have any specific thing in mind) last week and was in the same situation.

Off I went to akfiles to see what the 74 market (ammo, magazines, parts, etc) looked like at present. Well, it just so happens that I stumbled into the picture thread and saw a triangle folder arsenal with wooden handguards and a bakelite mag. Ordered a fucking slr104 from atlantic a few minutes later. Looked around today and found out that our academy still stocks monarch 5.45, just in a new box.

Make your dreams come true, anon.
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>>30554082

At this point, gunbroker or either of the big ak forums. I haven't seen the 4.5mm pin triangle in stock anywhere else.
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>>30554038

i know how it feels.
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>>30554124
should i just wait until kvar gets the triangle folder back in stock?
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>>30554232
i would buy exactly what you want right off the bat. there are a few triangle slr104 on arfcom if you dont mind used and at a slight premium
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>>30553047

But what about "muh gel tests"?
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So with the RPK74 article last thread, can someone explain to me what exactly was the role of the RPK74? Also, 40rd bakes....?

>>30549256
>Right now, I'm a university student
what state and major?

>>30549300
If you lookin for steel47 milsurp, then youre in for a long haul. SGAmmo used to sell 10packs of VG eastern combloc for $90, but now they chargin $100 for broken bent and dinged mags.

you would prolly be better off on akfiles, most stores cannot match the prices.

>>30549344
what the fuck am I looking at?

>>30552895
Go watch the declassified 90-era Cover vs Concealment video. I tried to find you a link, but shits like trying to find truth in the media.
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>>30553285
No.
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Hey /akg/, hopefully there is some /sksg/ overlap here

How do i tell which of the chinese sks models is best? I recall reading somewhere that there are two versions, ones designed for the military and ones designed for US import, the latter being worse quality.
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>>30554388
better than Tapco/PRO Mag/pmag gen2?
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>>30554002
Is your beryl chromed or is it melonheaded?

>>30554038
If plum was so common, where are all the plum bayonets????

>>30554232
>should i just wait until kvar gets 'x' back in stock?
you plan on attending your funeral without getting the items you wanted?

>>30554365
>"muh gel tests"
its shit. All the ballistics study n voodoo majic that each tries to tell you is a load of shit. Simplest way to think of it is like arrows. bullets punch straight holes into whatever they hit. you need mass, inertia, and a big hole, and it needs to pass through something vital for it to be effective.

5.56 is effective, IF it hits directly your target.
5.45 is effective because it relies on a different metric
7.62 is effective because it flies through shit, and keep on going
when you get to the bigboy bullets like used in WWII, then it starts to get interesting in what happens to the body when it hits.

5.56 is called a poodlepuncher for a reason, and that was when it had a 1/12 twist and 55gr which was the keystone to its effectiveness.
5.45 is called the poison bullet because of how it operates when it hits the body
7.62 is basically he-who-must-not-be-named.
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Is M70AB2 a meme?
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>>30554471
Actually worse.
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>>>30533430
>JB weld clear mixed with Timyasha translucent green
>Paid over FOUR hundo for it
Just wanted to leave that there....
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>>30554485
Chromed.
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>>30554498
whats wrong with them?
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>>30549702
All I see is dickgrips.
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>>30554852
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>>30547543
So apparently the shooter in Dallas used an SKS.

>A law enforcement source told CBS News that Johnson had a SKS semi-automatic assault rifle and a handgun, Milton reports.
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>>30555047
Nah man, the guy "definitely had an AR type rifle capable of firing multiple rounds" - source: Chief Keef said so in his press release.

Also, there is no fuckin way that was a SKS when you were watching those vids of him doing a de_aztec.
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>>30555110
From CNN: "One of the officials, familiar with the latest information from the Dallas police investigation, said the rifle was an SKS semi-automatic. The other official said Johnson legally bought multiple firearms in the past."

From CBS: "A law enforcement source told CBS News that Johnson had a SKS semi-automatic assault rifle and a handgun, Milton reports."
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>>30555157
I dont care what they say, the gun got blown to bits anyway, and no pictures of it has surfaced yet. This is another one of those "Well we already said sniper rifle, so lets make it an assault rifle that looks like a sniper rifle, and still covers yet another base of firearms - milsurp" stories.

count how many shots you see spark.
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>>30555218
Looked like 6 or 7 to me.
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>>30555253
>This dumb nigger cannot even count to 12
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>>30555358
Ok, didn't look like 12 to me but for the sake of argument, let's say you're right. That doesn't change the fact that you're just wilfully ignoring multiple current sources that prove you wrong to stick to the single one that agrees with you. Also, there are SKS mags that hold more than 10 rounds so it being 12 shots doesn't disprove the SKS sources anyway.
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sup /akg/

Ever had a jam where the cartridge stuck itself at the mouth of the chamber? The bolt carrier couldn't push it in, and I had just gotten done mag dumping. Fell out a minute later though.
Pic related is the best quality I have
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>>30555451
Do you mean it wouldn't feed into the chamber? Were you able to shoot other rounds fine after the one that wouldn't feed? My first thoughts would either be wrong caliber or that there might be something stuck in the chamber like part of a casing.
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>>30555484
Nah what had happened is I was dumping my mag and it stopped, and I thought I was out, and didn;t look closer till a few minutes later. It's all 7.62X39, golden tiger. A few miuntes later I opened the bolt and it fell out like normal.
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>>30549718
No
>>30555218
What's so fucking unbelievable about him having an SKS? Cuz joos pushing milsurp ban dis 2017?
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>>30555507
Ok so it didn't feed/didn't go into battery?
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>>30555218
I still say it's a saiga or ak.
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>>30555535
>battery
first time I'm hearing that term in this context?

I guess. It just stuck right where you can see it in the photo. Could possible have been a pice of casing or something? I doubt it though. I can post a picture of the reciever right now but idk if that would help.
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>>30555558
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-battery

Look into your chamber and check to see if there's anything there. Sometimes the back of a casing gets ripped off rather than extracting the whole case.
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>>30555585
Maybe. I wish I had looked closer, but as it turns out right around the time I took that photo, I found out that we were trespassing on private property because the landowner drove up to us and shoo'd us away. got some fun pics tho.

Pic related is sisters bf
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>>30555558
Forgot to ask, will other rounds still not feed or was it just that single round that had an issue? Could have just been a fucky round if it was the only one that didn't feed.
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>>30555623
sorry man, I didn't get another chance
>>30555615

>>30555585
Nah, nothing there.
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>>30547576
c39v2 for sure
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another
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>>30555773
whoops
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ayy lmao my rifle dyanmics 701
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>>30555623
What ak do you have?
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>>30555877
>Me or the guy trying to help me? I'm the guy who had the feed issue here

>>30555791
>>30555734
>>30555615
>>30555558
>>30555451

if you mean me then WASR-10
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>>30555892
Found a clue
Here's the top cartridge in the mag
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>>30555949
Forgot pic again
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>>30547543
>Finally decide to order VEPR
>K-var gives me a 500 server error
Kill me.
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alright /akg/
got 200$ for my birthday. do I:
get a krinkov muzzle device
get a 301 RS regulate mount and a cheap optic
some bakelight mags
a new bayonet
an xbox one
or save my money like a fucking normal person
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AK VS AR
Reliable VS Non reliable.

Take out for regular practice VS costly to costly to Plink

Home Defense.
AKSU VS Heavy long and visible AR

AK easy to modify VS AR attachments

AR IS BETTER!
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>>30556063
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>>30554366

Computer science, in Western New York!
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>>30555804

solid!
Where is your Aimpoint T/H 1?
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>>30556961
I got caught up in 41F that was coming in july and filled 17 stamps instead of buying it.
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>>30556974
Fug don't remind me, I have 18 things needing stamps but haven't filed one this year...
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>>30552895
bigger is better
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>>30554516
After handling it in person I am more confident it's not counterfeit
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>>30557492
Molds aren't cheap at all.

Stick it in a gun and get it all scratched lel
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>>30547543
Ok folks, i ordered an AMD65 parts kit, it should get here in a few days

I'm planning on building my own furniture for it (wood) because I'm kinda fuddy, and i think a side folding wood stock is funny

I also have an AKM barrel for it, 16" nitrided. Now i know it'll mostly fit, but the gas tube will be too short to fit the barrel normally. So the two options are: buy an AKM gas tube, or drill the gas port closer than normal on the barrel (somebody said that was doable). Which one should i do?
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>>30556020
buy my IO ak
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>>30557776
No
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>>30557713
I'd just buy a new one if it was me. I'm not an expert but it sounds like it's belt something or blow you up.

Speaking of gas tubes, anyone seen marks like these just below the tip of my piston? I'm not worried about damage to the piston but it makes me think it's hitting something or is letting too much gas out or something
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>>30557944
It's not very visible in that photo but you can just barely make out the discoloration.
Left it standing over night in paint thinner and it didn't remove it
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So I recently stumbled upon a spam can and some paper wrapped packets of 5.45x39 and I don't have a gun that shoots it. I did a little research and it led me to the Ak. What is a good price/model or whatever of a rifle that will eat this shit? Any other information would help.
Tl;dr have 7n6 with nothing to feed it to
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>>30557962
DDI or Arsenal AK-74
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>>30557967
What kind of price should I stay away from?
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>>30557981
DDI's are roughtly 700$
Arsenal's are roughly 1k.
Arsenal has been having trouble with QC lately, but I haven't been around /akg/ in a couple weeks and haven't been keeping up with news
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>>30557998
Thanks, I'll look into these. I figure having over 1000 rounds does me no good without a gun to shoot it
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>>30558020
How did you stumble into 1000 rounds of 5.45?
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>Go shooting out at giant gravel pit
>A half dozen so so people already there
>The pit is huge with plenty of space for everyone
>Set up far away from everyone else
>Shoot for a bit
>Fish and Game occasionally shows up just to make sure nobody is being retarded and dumping trash because dumping trash ruins public shooting for everyone
>Fish and Game shows up in his SUV
>I wave
>He stops
>Gets out and starts walking over to me
>I'm not doing anything wrong but I'm curious as to why he wants to come talk
>He has a serious/concerned look on his face
>"Son, what on earth is that God awful looking optic you've got on that rifle?"
>mfw

I explained it to him and let him shoot and try it out, and he said he liked it and thought it was cool that it didn't need batteries but also said that he couldn't get over how ugly it was.

Every single shooter I've met out in the wild while shooting this rifle has went out of his/her way to tell me how ugly the Obzor is.
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>>30547576

N-PAP, already proven kebab removal aid
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>>30553954
You can have those things in a 5.56 caliber arsenal. People have made the 74 mags feed reliably, mine can only cycle about 12 rounds because I've yet to sand down the insode nose end of the mag or build material on the rear of the follower. I like the 5.45 round a lot but unless I fall into some more cash soon or find an incredible deal, i am still hesitant to get one.
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>>30550316
You can try the linch dust cover if you don't want to fuck with your bolt carrier.
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>>30553110
How's the checkweld on those rifles? I've got the underfolder fever and I'm thinking of getting another AK
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>>30558721
OBZOR IS LOVE
OBZOR IS LIFE


Related:
Be swiss.
Go shooting with two friends.
One of them is total murica fuck yeah dude, always gets mad at my slavshit.
Calls my scope a meme and says it doesn't work in the dark. Go outside (it was already dark outside).
Oh thats just collected light from before, lets wait another 10 minutes.
10 minutes pass.
It still shines like a star, he got buttmad and talked about eotech stronk.
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Hey /akg/ where can I get side mounted optics for my ak? I checked kalinka optics, but maybe you have better option?
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>>30556020

>an xbox one

Whatever you do, don't do this. Just roll the money up in a condom and deposit it into the bank of your anus.
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>>30558721
>>30559258

So I see the memezor on a lot of 5.45 chambered AKs here. But does anyone use them for 7.62x39 AKs?
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Are these bakelight grips?
pic mine
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>>30559424
That is a 5.56 you dimwit
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>>30559307
rs regulate rail + your optic of choice
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>>30559446
дa.
>and with that scabbard it appears to be a transitional bayo.

http://ak47bayonets.com/types/akm-transitional-bayonets/
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>>30559092
> But you need one
They are so awesome but expensive if you start from scratch.
Tho I got pretty deep into the caliber in a relatively short time.
>~6 months
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>>30559488
Hey, I'm not the one shooting a NATO cartridge out of an AK.

I'm going to come out and say it, why would anyone do this? There is literally no advantage.
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>>30559630
something something ammo availability
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>>30559228
It really isn't as bad as the memes say. I have no problem finding a decent, repeatable cheek weld on my underfolder.
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>>30559630
Its my SHTF rifle.
I live in Switzerland and 7.62x39 is kind of common but i would not rely on it when its habbening. Not going to talk about 5.45x39 for that matter.
Don't worry i have them in all calibers :3
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>>30559630
There is, motherfucker. You live in a time where as each month passes, Jews push more gun control. All 7.62 and 5.45 is imported. When obongo or shillary do a pen swipe and won't import the shit anymore, your rifle is a paperweight. If you live in the western hemisphere the 5.56 is the round for you for LONG TERM reliability. We're not talking ballistics or cost, just being able to get your hands on the shit. When tshtf and you're giving handjobs in back alleys for 20 rounds of 7n6, I'll be in my garage reloading and stockpiling.
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Would /akg/ operate with me?
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>>30559686
>SHTF in Switzerland
I envy you mountain niggers, you've got freedom, and your countries borders and national identity are secure.
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>>30551158

Please tell me you did not let the finish dry in the sun
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A little teaser for AKG of my PKM stock converted to fit an AK.
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>>30559715
>just being able to get your hands on the shit.

That's all well and good, but if you're looking for something in 5.56 with longevity and high parts availability, why not just get a fucking AR?

If you're in the western hemisphere parts are going to be a hell of a lot more common for it. Just imagine trying to get your hands on a 5.56 AK bolt or barrel compared to an AR bolt or barrel.

Around here, you're going to find AR parts in 5.56, and a little less commonly AK parts in 7.62x39, and the respective ammo for each. You're not going to find very many AK parts in 5.56.
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>>30555615
>posting pics of him instead of sister
wtf its like you assume 90% of /k/ is into guy butts
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>>30559834

Question. How long is that stock compared to typical AK stock? Is it also 13 inches?
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>>30559965
11 Inches, 12 something if you count the part that goes in
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>>30559865
AK is my first pick, but I have to agree with this guy.

As someone said in an /arg/ yesterday, if everything went to hell, the AR would be easier to feed and fix considering how common they are here in the US.

As we know, you can remedy most AK problems with a hammer or a rock, but you may not always find ammunition. 7.62x39 is very common, yes, but not everywhere.

That said, for me personally my AR would be my backup rifle, not my primary, mostly due to preference and skillset. I am a much better with the AK than I am with the AR.
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>>30559715

I bought a 5.45 AK knowing that next year it might just be a prop. Compared to 7.62x39 and especially 5.56, the 5.45 market is hanging by a fucking thread unless you want to bargain and beg with grumpy geriatrics that are sitting on dozens of crates they never intend on actually opening.
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>>30559715
That's why I have an AR also. More like 4.
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>>30559572
Thanks Russia Bro
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>>30560013
This. Get both.

>>30560063
>Compared to 7.62x39 and especially 5.56

I dunno, good 7.62x39 seems a whole lot cheaper and easier (as of now, not saying what happens if an import ban comes down) to get your hands on than 5.56. The only way to go cheaper with 5.56 vs 7.62x39 is with steelcase, and not everyone likes the implications of what it can do to your gun.

Though I'm not factoring in reloading.
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>>30559865
>>30560084

Most 5.56 AK's are what most wold consider well built or higher end AK's of Polish, Chinese, Russian or Bulgarian origin. While the parts availability is not as common, it's not non existent either. How many people in here have had to replace bolts, bolt carriers or barrels in their AK? Let's face it, you need to know what you're doing to start replacing these parts on an AK, and most people lack the knowledge or tools. An AK will be reliable as fuck until the day it takes a major shit, at which point you probably wouldn't bother fucking with it again anyway, especially in a SHTF scenario.

I have a few AR's, I don't like them. They aren't bad, I can't explain it, I don't like shooting them and they don't feel as robust as an AK rifle. For all of the aftermarket that is out there for the AR, I believe most of it is marketing hyped-up junk, and the few quality parts that do exist are what most would consider expensive, which is further a reason shooting the common American cartridge out of an AK is more appealing to me and increasing in popularity. I think not being able to accept a 5.56 caliber AK is pure autism, the same way in the car world the JDM fags put expensive overpriced parts Japanese parts on their cars because anything else would in their minds be "un-authentic".
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>>30560183

>good 7.62x39 seems a whole lot cheaper and easier (as of now, not saying what happens if an import ban comes down) to get your hands on than 5.56

I feel the same way, though it's only because all of the 7.62x39 we get is exported from some country where it's produced at such a low cost. Domestically produced 7.62 would cost more after normalization simply because the government isn't buying billions of rounds and dumping whatever doesn't pass muster onto the civilian market.

As for 5.45, according to Sam all of GT's production is allocated to military contracts. Exactly who is buying all of this shit when they have pallets of surplus lying around everywhere?
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AMD65 and AMD63, any good?
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>>30560305

The thing I like most about the AR is the fact that I can assemble one with few specialized tools. The only real unique bits I bought were the geissele reaction rod and gas tube roll pin starter, and those aren't even necessarily required.

If I didn't enjoy AKs so much I'd probably have put together a dozen ARs by now.
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>>30560183
>That pic

What's up, brother?
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>>30560416
I agree, the best thing about the AR is that you don't need much in terms of tools for them. As some anon said on here before. "AKs are built, AR's are assembled". If you live in the US you need at least one AR, period. There is just something "soul-less" about it that I can't put my finger on, and something just itching in the back of my mind that makes me not trust it, even though neither of my AR's have given me trouble (neither have any of my AKs for that matter). Hell, I would pick my 1st gen SIG 556 over my ARs if that means anything.
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Hey, /akg/
I own a couple ARs and I decided it's time to get an AK. I've been looking into brands like WASR, SAR and IO, but the thing im torn about is what caliber to get it in.

What are the pros and cons of
>7.62x39
>5.45x39
>5.56x45 (NATO AK wut)

Thanks bros.
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>>30560513
If you're gonna get an ak get 7.62x39
What is the point otherwise?
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>>30560535
The modern AKs are chambered in 5.45x39, so I was leaning towards that.
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>>30560535
7.62x54, 12 gauge, 308. lots of other good AK options available
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>>30560487
I really like that rifle.
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>>30560133
I'm American, but you're welcome friend.
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>>30560547

Literally a meme caliber, 7.62x39 is a perfectly suitable round.

Furthermore, if SHTF and since your on /k/ you most certainly are an antisocial autist with no real battle buddies (no you're waifu does not count).
7.62x39 is a great cartridge for lone wolf type shit(i.e. even shit tier 7.62x39 can turn a wall of cinder blocks into rubble) especially at closer distances 0-300 m and this is probably the range you'd catch combat anyways.
the smaller calibers are usually much better for suppression and when you have more hands with guns like a fire team. They are also better (though not by much) at longer distances.
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>>30560689
To specify I meant 5.56 and 5.45 are better at longer distances.
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>>30559752
Texas?
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>>30560689
Lone wolf is gonna get you killed. But have fun with that.
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>>30560689
>Call other people an autist
>Literally RPing in your post
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>>30560577
Me too. It's a tossup between it and that Daewoo of yours, IMO.
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>>30561077
wheres his bullet button?
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>>30560973
I literally called my self and everyone who browses /k/ an autist lad.


>>30560947
Not if you don't start shit and keep to yourself.
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>>30561132
A wild pack of dindus appears.

What do you do?
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>>30561166
You and you're gang are tired hungry and dehydrated, one of them steals all the supplies at night and when you wake up everybody is blaming you, what do you do?
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>>30561077
I'm taking that tomorrow you can shoot that a little more. I have a bipod and I want to dial the scope in.
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>>30561077
DAMMNNNNNN just look at that choppa choped stock.
>We CQC nao!
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>>30561200
Not happening. Lol. I'm on my farm in Arizona laughing as society falls.
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>>30561226
>>30561244

>faced with logic

>Yawn, I was only pretending to be retarded

Really nigga.
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>>30550611
The recoil may be a little much but the simplicity of the gun and ease of maintenance would make it a great gun.
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anyone gonna answer?

So with the RPK74 article last thread, can someone explain to me what exactly was the role of the RPK74? Also, 40rd bakes....?
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>>30561244
It's nice to be land owner pleb.

While everyone is wasting money playing the market and relying on social security. I've set my family up for succes even if society doesn't collapse.
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I know this is most likely old news here but:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kv0Q9GI43w

>Rob Ski testing an I.O.

Is anyone else here extremely worried for his personal safety?
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>>30561293
Soviets went from 7.62 to 5.45.

Not that hard to figure out why they made the RPK-74.
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>>30561344
yes, but what doctrine did it fill? They said auto-supression was provided by the PKM so what was the RPK used for? Also, if you look at afgan pics, they always have a few RPKs in their squad pics.
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Took my first step into /ak/ today, SAR-1 for $660 after tax with a box of Silver Bear, shitty sling and a BHO mag. Gun is spotless and very smooth, trigger is amazingly good for an AK.

Where's the cheapest place to get an Ultimak and flashlight mount these days?
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>>30561360
Squad Automatic Weapon, is the likely role.
The PKM is more of a GPMG.
>At least according to western doctrine.

What do you mean
>Also, 40rd bakes....?
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>>30561472
I was gonna shit on you, but found no reason I could besides the non-threadable muzzle and minwax polyurethane finished wood.

Hows the magwobble?
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>>30561493
>The PKM is more of a GPMG.
>>At least according to western doctrine.
not according to the article, but it seems that way when I glanced at the USarmy FM. But that contradicts the pics from afganistan, where its usually equal numbers of PKM/AK with NVG/SVD/RPK/and AKGP30 grenader in each squad.
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>>30561563
Nonexistent. Only complaints I have in the muzzle and the babby grip, which is more a product of my giant hands.
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What's the best x39 muzzle device that still allows for bayonet mounting it's going on a wasr. I got the crapco 74 style for pure aesthetic purposes on it now so shame me
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>>30561621
>What's the best x39 muzzle device that still allows for bayonet mounting

Slant brake. That's it.

>Bayo mounting
>WASR
Lucky you. My lugs were ground down.
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>>30561656
i can fit a bayo with my el-cheapo tapco slot brake
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>>30561621
I have a bulgarian comp, it allows for bayo mounting, but it's been OOS on kvar for awhile, plus kvars site is being a whore.
>pic related

Maybe the Type 84 birdcage clone CNC Warrior makes?

http://www.cncwarrior.com/Type-84-style-birdcage-flash-hider-p/21783.htm

>>30561656
>Slant brake
"No"
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>>30561736
>"No"

Then you're fucked.
>>
In the market for an AK. Mainly been browsing Atlantic, but most of their products are out due to spikes in purchases. My budget is like $700-$1,100. What should I go for?
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>>30561736
Just get KVAR's 7.62 74 brake. As long as your FSB has a lug on it, it will mount.
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>>30561755
>Dude clearly said a WASR here >>30561656
Don't think that's gonna work.

>>30561752
I was replying with the sentiment that the slant is garbage and should only be used if you're dirt poor.
>Thus "No"

>>30561621
Since Kvar's site is borked and I couldn't tell you if that bulgy comp is still OOS (I imagine it is) Damage Industries Comp might allow a bayo to be mounted.
I have no experience with it, but might be worth a look anyway.

http://damageindustries.co/index.php?route=product/product&path=78&product_id=115
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>>30561807
>Dude clearly said a WASR here >>30561621 not >>30561656

My bad.
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>>30561807
If he has those teeth on the FSB, then he needs a type 1 AK47 (not AKM) bayonet, and yes, he is fucked besides either a slant, type84, or nut. idk if a AKML flashhider would work or not.
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Speaking of muzzle devices. Am I the only motherfucker that has a Fighter Brake?

I love it.
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>>30555532
Jews push for gun bans every year.
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>>30560736
Iowa friend.
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>>30562136
Thus he used an AR15, gotcha
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>>30562153
What? What I said has nothing to do with what gun he used.

Jews push for gun bans every year. Somehow equated to 'he used an AR15' in your mind.
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I just noticed, this mag is missing the witness hole in the back that is usually there to tell you if the mag is full. This is at 20 rounds.
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>>30562710
>The transparent mag doesn't have a witness hole

I fucking wonder why, Chimps.
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God dammit I want my AK74 mags already. Fucking Slavs need to ship faster.
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>>30562732
Well. Duh

I was mentioning it because I thought it was a neat detail

Although it would still be nice to have round count markings or a mark that shows when it's fully loaded
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Whatever happened to that one guy that was going to offer up some aluminum mags for sale?
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>>30562799
Just drill a hole in it yourself.
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Is there actually a place i can get bakelights for 35$ a pop or do I have to wait for VAfag again?
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>>30562809
Brb
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>>30561903
I bought a Romanian bayo today and it fits on my rifle I have to take the muzzle brake off. Hence why I want one that actually works and will fit so I won't have to remove the muzzle brake
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Is the US made krinkov muzzle device worth a shot? The original bulgarian always seems to be sold out
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>>30562996
forgot link
http://www.circle10ak.com/muzzledevices.shtml
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Mags
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>>30559768
It was dry but brought it out in the light for pictures and to see how it looked. I fucked it up though and put the 2nd coat on too thick.
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does anybody have fucking WASRs or Yugos in stock?
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>>30563074
can you help me with this then?
>>30562810
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Alright guys so it's time for me to get a muzzle device. Whats the best one for around 100$? I'd rather not spend more than that but if it's worth a little more I will. Pic unrelated
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>>30562810

Did he come through with the 7.62x39 bakes yet?
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>>30563214
No idea, I thought I missed out on the last time he showed up roughly a month ago, that's all I know
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>>30563204
i picked up an amd 65 device
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>>30563242
people usually reccomend the Krinkov. The only one I could find is the US made version, pic related
http://www.circle10ak.com/muzzledevices.shtml
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>>30563204

>>30561959
This guy is well within that budget. Again, I fucking love it.
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>>30563140
The only place I know that had them is in britain. They come Unissued with all the markings on them, you assemble them. They're about 38 a peice and shipping sucks. It's like rusmilitary.com or something
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>>30563274
I'll read up on that one. What can you tell me about the US made krinkov vs the original?

>>30563282
that bums me out
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All these SP89s for sale hahaha
Saw a SP5K sell for 2.5k
>chaos
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>>30563306
>What can you tell me about the US made krinkov vs the original?

I think if I remember correctly, no one in the US makes it correctly. The actual intention of that guy is to provide an expansion chamber to build back-pressure so that the 'krinkov' rifles can cycle reliably. If you have a regular full-size AK, it provides very little benefit.
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>>30563353
Ah, never mind then. Also I just noticed it's only a flash hider, and what I'm really looking for is a muzzle brake or a compensator(same thing right?). The Fighter Brake looks good. Someone here once reccomended me a JRVV or something, I can't remember what it's called.
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>>30563306
They do their best to make shipping as easy as possible and take like 20% off US orders. They come in like 3 weeks. Yea it sucks but the age of surplus is dead unfortunately. It's all dried up and priced out the ass.
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Got to shoot an underfolder in fullauto today at the local range, was pretty fun but I thought I'd be able to control it better
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>>30563204

Obtain this.
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>>30563382
>>30563353
Disregard, I was thinking of the SRVV Jet Brake.

>>30563389
Not really looking for a flash hider, sorry mang.

>>30563387
Oh well. maybe VAfag will appear sooner or later.
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>>30563389
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>>30563389
>>30563439

What makes this so much better than my 74 brake?
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>>30563500

Completely invisible muzzle flash. You can't even see it indoors with the lights off. It also directs the sound more forward, so it's not as hard on the ears of you and those around you.
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>>30563528
>He didn't mention that it's also heavy for what it is.
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>>30563592

If you think an extra like 4 fucking ounces is heavy, then you need to assfuck yourself, Nutnfancy.
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>>30563633
>4 ounces
Congrats, you have a McDonald's burger hanging on your AK barrel now.
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>>30563633
>>30563592
>>30563500

What about this one?

http://shop.akoperatorsunionlocal4774.com/Zenit-DTK-2-Muzzle-Brake-Zenit-Muzzle-Brake.htm
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>>30563662
>akoperatorsunionlocal4774

Dude, I highly suggest you watch some of their muzzle device videos. They do a good job demonstrating what each one reviewed does.
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>>30563661

>I'm a weak girl
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>>30563683
I've watched a few, I'm not sure they've done one of that one tho. And I can't always find whatever device they test. Still not able to find a bona-fide Jet Brake.

Tempted to get an AKOU t-shirt tho desu
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>>30563661

I've not weight them both, but I'm holding them in my hands now and the '74 brake feels heavier by a small margin. The flash hider is pretty light. Stop being a pansy.
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What's the best brand of vodka to go with my AK for a brand new 21 y/o? to be used seperately, of course.
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hey guys is a AMD as reliable as an AK?
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>>30564131
Tito's

Or whatever brand that "polish honey vodka" was that the guy at Nuggetfest had. That shit was great
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>>30563074
Nice Aluminum waffle.
Way too pretty though, I'd hate to use a mag in that condition.
>poor pic of my pair

That a slabside on the far left?
Also what are the 40s?
Look like Russians.
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>>30564166
krupnik?
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>>30564380
Yea it's a slab. I shot with that waffle mag also. One of the 40s is, but honestly I have no clue as to what one of them is.
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>>30564568
Yeah I believe so, dunno what brand specifically though.
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>>30564166
Well I went and got tito's for my first try of vodka. Tastes like nail polish remover smells but I guess I'm a true AK operator now
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>>30564380
I want an aluminum waffle, damn it.
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>>30562799
>Its ruined
Go ahead and knock $150 off whatever price you just paid for it, cause its no longer brand new.

was it worth it, for your f/arg/it-esque photo-op?
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>>30559258
Burger here. Eotech a shit.
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>>30563706
>Still not able to find a bona-fide Jet Brake.
some guy on the files had a used 7.62 one for $80shipped.

I thought about it, then said fuck that shit, I could prolly have it fab'd for cheaper.
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>>30564782
>HDR filter
yeesh, that looks like shit.
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>>30564722
Enjoy shit you buy
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>>30564722
Quality bait my friend
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>>30563528
>Strela
you got a youtube link for that?

what is the best FH/brake combo out there for 74 and 47?
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DALLAS SHOOTER CONFIRMED FOR CONVERTED 5.45 SAIGA
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>>30564956

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Xb5VHxu-o

Second string of shots are with the flash hider on. Shitty video, blame the slavs.
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>>30564991
RIP import from Russia
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>>30560513
Do NOT get IO. Whatever you do. Unless you don't particularly want hands or a face.
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>>30564991

oh man is that one of those cheapo prism scopes?
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>>30564991
Hey I have one of those!
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>>30565093
>>30564991

g-g-good thing those are banned, right guys?
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>>30564991
>Dog-leg rail

What a faggot.

>>30565115
If I weren't so married to the truth, I would say we should start bitching about how the import ban obviously did not work to stop this guy.
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>>30565087
Looks like it.

>>30565093
Well you've got a nicer stock.

>>30565131
lel
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All my local gun shops only sell 7.62x39 AKs and tacticool zombie killer 1911s. I want a 5.45x39 and I don't want to to pay $1,000 for it. Does anyone know where online I can get a quality 5.45x39 AK for a reasonable price?
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>>30565158
Just wait a couple years when people figure out its a meme caliber and all start flooding the market with 5.45s.
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>>30565183

i only bought my 5.45 ak because its slightly cheaper to shoot than 7.62
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>>30564991
nah man, Chief Keef said "He definitely had an AR type rifle capable of shooting multiple rounds", and the media said he had a SKS sniper semiauto assault rifle.

wheres yo sause?

also,
>promags
LOL
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>>30564991
>Zhukov stock can't handle ice but can handle an explosion
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>>30565299
>All that rubble from RCXD, but the gun is perfectly fine with no dings, dents, blood, or anything besides some dust.

shit smells fishy as fuck.
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>>30565338
Lets not forget
>Working Tapco mag
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>>30565338

who would have thought that metal and polymer holds up better than wooden doors and plaster
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We need to ban the importation and sale of these assault Saigas and these cop killer 7n6 bullets.
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>>30565348
oh I thought it was a fagpul promag. guess not.

>>30565359
>who would have thought that metal and polymer holds up better than wooden doors and plaster
Who woulda thought they have explosives so advanced, it kills people without damaging the rifle being clutched in their hands.
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>>30565389

again, a gun is a lot tougher than a person. What is even fishy here? do you think the police wasted a perfectly good eod bot to stage a fake killing of a shooter just so they could potentially outlaw saigas?
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>>30565459
No, I think they flashbanged him, got 3 CS gas grenades tossed in there until he damn near suffocated, used the EOD bot to keep the door closed, waited until he lost consciousness, then went in and disarmed him and proceeded to maim and mutilate him piece by piece. Then they used the RCXD to blow him up to make it look like it was from the explosion. They prolly used the bot to pull him apart piece by piece driving it on top his legs and using its robo arm to rip off fingers, hands, forearms, etc until he bled out, then set off the bomb. then they put his guns back in the room. He was askin for a phone for a reason, and it prolly wasnt just to say goodbye, he coulda done that with his own phone, but they were jamming all radio signals, or shut down the cell towers.
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>>30565459
Somebody leaking photo of the weapon used in a devastating attack on police. It's obviously been disturbed, too clean. I dunno seems fishy.
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How do you go from sks to fucked up 74 conversion?
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>>30565798
>How do you go from sks to fucked up 74 conversion?
No, it was AR type rifle capable of firing multiple rounds, to SKS semiauto sniper assault rifle, to this. They want to cover all bases and then announce the correct one.

This is literally a MW2 'put out a fire with a bigger fire' tactic by shillary.
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>>30564991
Media already sperged out over the SKS, it's too late for them now
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>>30565798
Considering the only source I've seen for it being a converted saiga was some no-name website, I'm still more inclined to believe that it was an SKS.
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>>30565798
You dont, I'm gonna place bets on this pic being from Ukraine or Syria
>>30565919
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>>30565850
Will they label it the saiga akm (automatic killing machine) next?
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>>30564991
>tapco mag
maaaaaan
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>>30565946
If it was an overseas pic, it wouldn't have the downsyndrome US furniture and autistic Sporting handgaurds
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>>30565919
>>30565946
This is the source for the saiga.

https://thearmsguide.com/8811/reports-ak-74-dallas-shooting/

>The Saiga AK-74 is a semiautomatic version of the venerable AK-47.

I think that pretty much speaks for how accurate the source is.
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>>30565946
>bets on this pic being from Ukraine or Syria
really, they just imported a US palm grip and fagpul zhukov alll the way over there because they needed 922 compliance, huh?
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hey /akg/ I'm kind of tight on money but I want to make a decision between flash suppresser or a sound suppressor. Ive narrowed it down between the Strela or the Fighter Break. I'm leaning towards the Fighter Break because it seems like the best of both words. Please help /akg/, you guys have really helped me so far in my dream of building an ak. So far I've saved my pennies to drop an Alg trigger into an SLR107fr Plum, and purchase an Ultimak to mount my budget-tier Primary Arms MD-ADS Red Dot. How'd I do so far?
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>>30566054
>So far I've saved my pennies to drop an Alg trigger
you fucked up and wasted a load of pennies.
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>>30566022
Saigas are still imported? I love how they added "ar-15 style type"
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>>30566090
whats so wrong with the Alg AKT trigger?
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>>30566024
>nobody in russia or eastern europe could have any of that
Okay. There are absolutely no Palm grips or magpul shit anywhere outside the US, you win anon.
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>>30566235
He's right for the wrong reasons. Yes, somebody in Russia or Ukraine could have a US palm grip or Magpul stock, however unlikely. But that's clearly a 5.45 Saiga sporter, and those are not in circulation anywhere in the world except for the US. Not even in Russia, where they are made.
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>>30566251
nah man, he says I'm wrong, so I must be..... oh wait, hes a fuckin idiot. Why am I so quick to forget that?

And what do you think I meant by 922 compliance? And dont you think its possible it was a F&F gun that was smuggled thru mexico that made it over to ukraine or syria?

>>30566170
MIMshit, and its hardened too hard so it wrecks your BCG and bolt by mushrooming them. you listened to that crossdressing faggit that cant even Lego a retro A1 together properly and drank the dumbfuck koolade.
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>>30565547

to what end
>>
There's a video that captures the shooters gunfire captured on video sounds like 7.62 to me
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>>30566287
You seem unreasonably salty over a Moroccan Camel Smuggling Forum. I raised a question about whether the picture was legit, and said it could be two other places. Considering the gun used in Paris was from the F&F scandal, it's possible US guns are all over the fucking place.
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https://youtu.be/hOyCJZn7eaE

Sounds like an SKS to me
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>>30566287
Which crossdressing faggot? there are quite a few... I'll research this more and find out if i've error. I still thank you for the info, albeit very left field. So does anyone know about the two brakes I was asking about? Or any good ones in general to research?
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>>30566287
>And what do you think I meant by 922 compliance?
I understood what you meant, he didn't.

And it is possible I suppose, although I would be very surprised to find a F&F gun anywhere but Mexico or the USA.
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https://youtu.be/-23nlUpUte0

Internet detectives, go crazy
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>>30566413
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/fast-and-furious-paris-attacks-gun-terrorist/2016/07/05/id/737087/
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Clear as a bell to me, that's 7.62 and 5.56. You can even make out the action on my shitty phone. All nofuns in here or what?

https://youtu.be/-MpzrDOHQ6A

Reference>>30566400
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New thread

>>30566478

>>30566478

>>30566478
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>>30566400
>that edit at 1:08-1:09
All these fuckin 16MP camera and phones with 1080p recording cameras, and all the news posts and shows on the internet is this fuckin blockyass 640x480 lossy bullshit. Where is the real fuckin video?
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>>30566400
>"Did you get everything?"
>yea, payment
>I uh, I gotta, I gotta go.... switch over to another app, cause my boss is _____ (correct answer: shillary).

Why didnt he record it to his SD in 1080 and then upload it when he got home?

oh yea, thats right, because they dont want to have to verify and edit frame by frame with all the signs of digitally editing footage leaves behind.
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