How did tank crews deal with fumes before bore evaporators

>>30522269

Bore evacuators.

And they dealt with it by having the hatches open and not being little bitches.

Can I get a real answer from someone who actually knows what they're talking about?

>>30522654

New banner?

>>30522707

Please leave my thread.

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>>30522269
...by make some extra holes for extra air circulation. The diameter of 88mm has been found as the mos ideal for this purpose

>>30522870

Do not reply to my thread again.

>>30522654

Only if we can get a thread from someone who isn't a braindead faggot.

Preferably, one who knows how to use google and do basic research on their own without having to have their hand held every step of the way.

Learn to read, then read a fucking book.

>>30522916
>your question is soooo easy that I can't answer it!

You are, without question, a nigger.

Only niggers are this stupid.

>>30522942

Get out of my thread.

>>30522947

No, YOU get out of MY thread!

>>30522897

What about your wifes sons thread?

Open hatches

>>30522962

This is my thread. Please leave.

>>30522654

Inhalation and ventilation.

>>30522971

He would never post on such a white male heteropatriarchist neo-nazi trump-supporting forum, he's a good boy, he dindu nothing wrong.

>>30522978

OP here.

Thank you for the answer.

Back then men were men

>>30522352

First post got it right.

Bore evacuators were invented after WW2 because fumes were such a problem. Before then, they just left the hatches open and dealt with it.

The fumes were just one of the things you had to put up with if you were a tanker.

They were too busy smoking cigars, drinking whiskey and bragging about sexual conquests to care about any "fumes".

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>>30522897
>4chan
>actually thinking tarding out and telling someone not to reply will work.
>obvious question has already been answered and had to be corrected after a whopping one sentence.

Hi newfriend

>>30522654
Hahaha, where do you think you are?
This is /k/, and you expect knowledge or answers here?

>>30522269
How?
...simply just spun down windows

>>30523029
>doesn't answer the question
>gets butthurt when he's called out for not answering the question
>continues to not answer the question

Do you even know what it was I asked to begin with?

>>30523020
This, they were thinking about plowing your grandma, not about some faggy fumes.

I don't know OP why dont you use Google or common sense to figure out how they did it.

Or here I'll spoon feed you're dumbass. They left the hatches open and fucking dealt with it. Bore evacuators were purposefully designed and built to deal with the fumes. There was nothing else other than leaving the hatches open.

>dude comes in and answers it
>OP like the fag he always is isn't satisfied
>thinks he knows more than the person answering his question
>proceeds to act like a cunt and get his shit called
>plz leave this is a safe space

OP What the fuck are you doing?

>>30523093

First off, I didn't read your post.

Secondly, my question was already answered. Do not reply to my thread again.

>>30523099

Get out of my thread and stop acting like you own the place. You're making me (The OP) look like an autist.

>>30523029
>it a meme you dip!

you goofed, you are the newfag here

>>30523107

Thanks for the (You), but I already have plenty.

Here, you can have that one back.

>>30522269
Same way they dealt with the lack of nail polish and bananas

>>30523260
>bananas
...with dry english humor and chuckle-worthy songs?

>>30522654
Wow anon. Your full retard post was answered by anon 1 and you call him out for being retarded.

No surprise OP is still a faggot

>>30523366
English humor is as dry as a lubed fish

>>30522982
NO THIS IS MY THREAD NOW

>>30523038
I'm not the guy who answered you the first time but honestly, I don't know what you're looking for here.

Here, I'll give you a wrong answer and we'll see which one you prefer. All tank crews before the bore "evaporator" was conceived were instructed to have their weapons operators place their mouths into the barrel of the tank and blow exceedingly hard until the fumes last the chamber, leaving the inside of the vehicle free of pesty fumes.

Happy? You've gotten your answer from me, which I was wrong. And you got your answer from the first guy who was correct. Choose one.

>>30523397

Leave my thread immediately.

>>30523485

First off, I didn't read your post.

Secondly, my question was already answered. Do not reply to my thread again.

Just when you think /k/ couldn't get any more retarded....you fuck wits prove me wrong

>>30523491
This is me. Replying to your terrible thread again.

>>30523506

No, THIS is me, and it's MY thread!

>>30522654
>>30522724
>>30522897
>>30522947
>>30522994
>>30523099
>>30523486
either im being a summer fag or op is a salty summer cunt

>>30523729

Thanks for the (You)'s, idiot.

I'm keeping these and spending them on shitty memes, just to spite you.

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>>30523729
Summerfag confirmed.

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>>30523013
Some tanks in WW2 were fitted with primitive bore evacuators.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKDqsZmWkW8

>>30522269
Man, I'd be really stressed if my bore suddenly evaporated in the middle of a battle.

>>30523486
Dont speak to me or my sons thread ever again.

>>30524582

That joke was already made twice.

>>30524601
No it wasnt.
Read the thread again.

>>30524284
Underrated post

>>30523366
No, i actually meant no bananas in the tank. Who fancies a banana in a tank? Nobody even thinks about it. Thats the point.

>>30522269
"But I was going into Tosche Station to pick up some power converters!"

>>30524860
>he actually went back and counted how many times someone made his idiotic joke just to complain about my post

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>>30522870
kek

>>30523535
Fucking clones.

THIS IS MY THREAD!

>>30522870
So how do they die? Guy looks fine besides the little bit of blood coming out his nose...?

Is it like The Men Who Stare At Goat's say, where they get sucked through the opposite hole from pressure change?

>>30526888
Assuming that the shells did not have an explosive filler, spalling from the armor causes a lot of fragmentation inside the tank. All of the armor that was in the open hole you now see shatters and sprays into the fighting compartment along with the solid shell.

Why are twin axle drag cars not a thing?

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>>30522269
How did cars deal with shifting gears before automatic transmissions were a thing?

>>30527071
>before automatic transmissions

Cars have always had automatic transmissions.

>>30527147
if youre not going to give me a real answer then don't post in my thread

>>30527166

This is my thread.

This thread went to shit real quick

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>>30527225
No, this is my thread

>>30527301
ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL

tanks in cold war and post era need to be sealed against NBC, ww2 tanks fight with the hatches open

>>30522269
they filtered the air through a lucky strike

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>>30522654
>question answered
>OP being a faggot

>>30527599

In what universe is that an "answer"?

>>30522269
They dealt with it by breathing it in and keep hatches open like >>30522352 said.

Even when the engine was in the crew compartment during WW1 people just dealt with it. It was preferable than being in the trenches. Wikipedia this shit, its all there.

>>30527646
>just google all of this stuff that I just told you!

Are you...retarded?

>>30527623
How is it not an answer?

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>>30527759
>I want more information
>use the Internet for an expanded explanation Anon
>hur dur that's retarded

Wew lad you're stupid

>>30527858

How is it one?

>>30527935

You already gave me the complete answer, and then you tell me to google the exact same information again?

You're retarded.

>>30522269
what are holes ?

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>>30522269
>How did tank crews deal with fumes before bore evaporators were a thing?

Nigga what the fuck?

>>30522269
They dealt with it by not being fucking pussies. Damn millennials!

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>>30522269
Later model T-34-85 did it like this.

See those half-rounded covers? There are ventilators underneath those, the one in the back pumps fresh air, while the one in the front pulls out the fumes.

>>30527646
By dealt with it you presumably mean occasionally died of carbon monoxide poisoning.

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>>30522269
Most german tanks hat some sort of ventialtion in the turret roof, pic related, the Panther (red part)

The Sherman had the same thing in the hull roof between driver and his assistant.

Idk how the russians dealt with it but I guess they just opened the hatches.

It is true what >>30523013 said

These ventilations where simply not enough to keep the inside of a tank clean during heavy fighting which was a downside for the crew and their ability to operate the tank in the most effective way.

Then came bore evacuators and everything was fine.

>>30522352
>And they dealt with it by having the hatches open and not being little bitches.

Actually what if I told you...
That bore evacuators were the problem with the gasses going back in and most modern tank cannons. After the shot with automated fire control adjustments for elevation vents the gasses out upward (because hot gas rises), even in the earliest auto-loader system. The Abrams has a loader hatch so, I don't really know if it should be open or not but handling 120mm pretty much needs a person standing. Most of the smoke that enters the cabin, is most likely do to an auto ejection process of the Guns. The German Pak40 or kwk40 had a breach that had to have the shell be ejected manually so there were not much smoke inside those tanks.

The only reason why there was a bore evacuator was so that gases could be used as a depression during the shot so that the cannon without any hydraulic recoil mechanism would not force the barrel to elevate itself up without the negative effects of having a mussel device kick up dust.

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>>30531462

I'm guessing English isn't your first language, because big chunks of that paragraph are nonsense.

Not to mention that most of the point you seem to be trying to make is wrong anyway. Bore evacuators do a good job of, well, evacuating the bore of fumes resulting from firing. Automatic ejection has nothing to do with it, as long as the bore evacuator is clean and functional you're going to get very little gas coming back into the fighting compartment after firing. The M1 does have a loader's hatch, and it is often left open (because it gets hot inside a tank, fumes or no fumes.), but if you think the loader's hatch NEEDS to be open in order for the loader to do his job, you've clearly never seen the inside of an M1. There's plenty of space for the loader to work with all the hatches closed.

The Pak 40 featured an automatic ejector (Though it's likely you could disable that), and even if it didn't then nobody's going to leave the gun empty for long in a battle, so they'd likely just open the breech immediately anyway, meaning all the fumes would just come back into the fighting compartment anyway. As >>30531452 said, ventilators were probably the best solution they had.

The last part of your post is completely unintelligible, so I can't really comment on that.

>>30522269
They suffocated.

>>30527071
>driving an automatic