/brg/ Battle Rifle General

>>30520430
>.223 used in a scar 17

>>30520448
https://hi-desertdog.com/fnh-scar-16s-17s/scar-barrels-conversion-kits/scar-17s-556-conversion-kit-scar-h556.html

>>30520448
Are you illiterate? It's showing .308 in comparison to .223. It's says fucking ".223 used in AR15" and then "308 used in both these guns"

>>30520638
It says scar, not scar 17
The 16 is a thing

>>30520373
So do I just call them and order or do they have a website?

>>30520666
Call them satan

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>>30520430
But the SCAR has the SCARy pistol grip, and tacticool uggboot folding stock

>>30520709
Ban assault boots

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>>30520755
SHALL

>>30520430
>buys SKS.
>magazine capacity too great to hunt deer.
Why, johnny, why?

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>>30520765
NOT

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>>30520806
BEE

>>30520804
>Mag cap
Sorry you live in a non free state

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>>30520826
INFRINGED

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>>30520430
Finally can post in BR thread

>>30520430
Pic is inaccurate, the M1A in its standard configuration is banned. I know this because it was made illegal right before I was going to buy one.

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I was gonna order Atlantic Firearms' PTR91 GIR package but then the website went down and now everything's out of stock because of Orlando panic-buying faggots.

>>30521011
Mlok, uso, Adm, competition trigger
It all checks out

>>30520659
>.223 used in AR-15
>.308 used in both guns

>>30521085
Why wouldn't you call them?

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>>30521117

>>30521121
because I'm a fucking retard and didn't think of that and don't have a debit card set up yet.

>>30521132
Atlantic doesn't take SNAP cards?

>>30521148
I recently got set up with a credit union and they don't do online payments/transfers without the card, so my paypal is empty so it wouldn't have mattered.

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anyone have experience with the trijicon vcog on a 308? yay or nay?

>>30521414
http://fnforum.net/forums/scar-accessories-scopes-mods/76176-vcog-scar-17s.html

>>30521424
well that answers my question awesome thanks

>>30521454
So yay or nay

>>30521552
definitely yay especially now that I know they have a quick detach system too

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I love my FAL

>>30520467
Except the pictured SCAR is clearly using a 7.62 mag and lower, you pedant.

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>>30520430
#blackriflesmatter

>>30520430
CA...life is suffering.


But on a side note, while the Riger Mini 14 has an all stainless steel option, why dosen't Springfield offer a full stainless M1A not just the barrel?

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>>30521606

>>30521822
No demand for it
M1a buyers want steel and wood rifles.
I don't think there is any stainless BRs, maybe an AR10 receiver set, maybe

>>30522025
>Being not-retarded is autism!
Sorry, retard, that's not how it works.

>>30522037
A Stainless M1A scout would be a sick fishing boat rifle.

Right now I'm thinking my only option is a marine cote 590A1

>>30522068
There are some bolt guns you could look at.

>>30520826
LOL

>>30522066
>There are SCAR rifles made in .308 and .223
Your getting full on mad over a picture not having both the 16 and 17 picture. Let that sink in. Your getting your jimmies rustled over it.

>>30521131
More like illiteracy.

>>30520448
Holy fuck you're dumb

>>30522126
What are you even on about?

The picture shows two guns chambered in 308 (or at least close enough) and you're sperg fergusing over the fact that SCAR16s exist -- yeah, they exist, but they're not in the picture and they have no relevance to the discussion.

So knock it off, retard.

>>30522215
The text says SCAR
Not SCAR 17
Just SCAR

>>30522228
Still doesn't make it wrong

>>30522228
but the *picture* is a SCAR17.
and the picture *says* it's using .308 rounds
because it's being compared to the M1A.

The existence of the SCAR16 has no relevance to the picture. Dumbass.

>>30522228
What is inductive reasoning?

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>>30522228
you are a fucking mong, it's obviously a SCAR 17 just admit that you are a fucking tard and move on

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>>30522271
>>30522292

Akchuawly, it's a SCAR-H (Mk17 Mod0) with a poorly photoshopped birdcage flash hider.

The SCAR-H, SCAR 17, and SCAR 17S are all different rifles according to FN - each with their own separate serial range.

All of them however are SCAR's. So the OP image is not incorrect.

>>30522365
>It's a SCAR-H, not a SCAR-17
and you deduce this from the right side of the gun... how?

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>>30522434

Because it's standard FN marketing material. The most common and likely used of which is the SCAR-H with the AAC 18T MITER flash hider.

It initially appeared to be photoshopped to appear ban compliant (compensator instead of evil flash hider) however upon further examination I've discovered the original source material dating back to the announcement of the limited edition SCAR-17S package.

So this is in fact a SCAR-17S (albeit still photoshopped) yet my point about the separate nomenclature and serial sets for each remains standing.

>>30522434
>auto selector

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>>30521148
>SNAP card for a PTR
Fucking epic

>>30521084
Not actually. What is banned is a muzzle break, not a muzzle brake.

Which got that provision struck down by a judge, though I think the last court overturned that judgement.

>>30523269
>Muzzle break
Why would I want to break the end of my barrel?

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should I get an AR10 or an M40?

>>30523544
What's the budget and the goal ?

>>30523286
To get more wobble per bullet and kill whole classrooms of babies I assume. Why else would you want a deadly assault weapon.

>>30523925
>M40, bolt action rifle
>Deadly salt raifu

>>30523544
It depends on the price really. An M40 will outshoot a cheapshit AR-10, but a good AR-10 will be pretty much as accurate and with the benefits of being an AR.

>>30523672
>>30524353
hopefully under 2 grand
I want to shoot far

>>30524410
If your going to buy rather than assemble, probably the boltgun route.
If your going to assemble, AR10

Either way, I hope your not including optics in that $2k. And if you want to go far in .308 type gun, get it in 6.5 creedmoor

>>30520430
What's a good place to find an M1A at a decent price?

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shoulder thing that goes up was ordered yesterday, and bayonet lug soon...

>>30521131
He's right you fucking retard, read the image again

>>30520430
It's not banned by name, the stock, barrel accessory, and 20round mag are though.

That M1A falls into the same category for the muzzle and the mag.

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>>30520430

>What does your bigoted ass refuse to buy?

Paint stripper.

>>30525064
Topkek

shot the scar at my range and fucking loved it.

wyr have an m14 or scar please respond

>>30525128
Wyr?

>>30521131
kill yourself you illiterate nigger

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>>30525384
>This is so easy

>>30525006
>that scar
>that pic with that caption

>>30525417
Whatsit a scar from?

>>30525349
would you rather

>>30525464
FN Herstal.

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>>30525600

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>>30525582

>>30520659
Diagnosed with clinical mental retardation. Hand in your guns.

>>30521584
Buy it and lemme know bb

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Haven't seen sa/k/uya in this bread yet, lemme bait that secsee boipucci

How are century arms fals? Are they dodgy like the wasr 10? Also how about dsa they're pretty expensive

>>30521085
I managed to bag the PTR 91 SC as soon as the order page came back.

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>>30526463

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>>30521085
>>30521132
>>30521148
>>30521168
never stop proving the meme

>>30521595
i do too

>>30523544
>>30524353
ARs are shit but its an election year so buy the scary looking salt gun

>>30524576
https://www.slickguns.com/search/apachesolr_search/m1a?view=list

My FAL is shit and it's better than yours
wait where did that picture go
I think I deleted it

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>>30525064
same just throw her around and youll get the wear oper8ing is the only way to make it look better

>>30525128
scar because its the best battle raifu

>>30526463
had to do that work thing and yard work

>>30526495
they are a bad gamble avoid them unless you know it isnt a shitter (good luck)

>>30526525
sorry for your loss

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>>30526463
>>30526841
Speak of the devil and he shall appear

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>>30526925
Oh hey I found it
Threaded barrels are overrated

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>>30526987
Hey, I got mine btw.

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>>30527047
Threads let you put muzzle devices on easily.
And cans

>>30526936
nah, ain't a loss to me. I like the PTRs, they're fun to shoot.

>>30527129
Oh hey Witcher. Where did you get that handguard?

>>30527150
>SBRing a .308
>giving it equivalent ballistics to 7.62x39 in identical barrel lengths with extra stupid report
Nah

>>30527150
Is that a SCAR, or just a FAL riced into the tenth dimension?

>>30527217
Hell yeah. That's my secret "this will be retarded and awesome" dream. Don't shit on my dreams, man.

>>30527221
I feel like this very obviously looks like the latter

>>30527217
That's an 11" bbl
That will be like x39 from a 17" bbl
The can will reduce the rapport

>>30527221
What's the difference?

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>>30527221
Riced FAL

>>30527244
>That will be like x39 from a 17" bbl
...which is identical to x39 from a 14" bbl and very close to 11"

>>30527245
Short answer, everything
Well. Mags are almost identical

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>>30527216
here
http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/HK91-G3-GREEN-WIDE-HANDGUARD-25p2154.htm
http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/HK91-G3-BLACK-WIDE-HANDGUARD-25p2152.htm
and here is the bipod
http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/HK-BIPOD-2p1.htm

>>30527245
50 years of firearm development?

>>30527264
10" bbl x39 with the accordingly lightweight bullets is doing like barely over 2000fps
150gr .308 with an 11" bbl is doing 2350fps

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>>30527216
I got it from ebay but here's the same thing on gunbroker: http://www.gunbroker.com/item/569048821
>>30527287
It's not a normal wide handguard.

>>30527331
10" clocks in around 2100.

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>>30520448
>>30520659

>>30527333
At an extra 130 I dont think I care that much
>>30527287
Will the bipod work with the standard PTR slim handguard?

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>>30527394
No it won't since the mount is on the wide handguard itself.

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>>30527414
the ad you linked says
>looks like it has never been put on a rifle

you can literally see wear and scratches lol

>>30527394
and no

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>>30527446
Did you also put a PA scope on yours?

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>>30527446
I didn't even read the ad. The Namibian furniture is pretty rare and that's about what I paid for mine.

>>30527354
So, with ammo that's 25% heavier, .308 is going to have 250-300 fps faster than a shitty x39.

Correspondingly it will have a MUCH higher BC and SD

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>>30527469
naw thats from the summer nugfest
i just put wood, bayonet mount, carry handle, and a metal sef lower not a fan of rails

>>30521011
Aren't supressors illegal?

>>30527648
Like so much in life, if it's legal or not depends on how rich you are

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>>30520430
>What does johnny law keep you from owning?
I'm in AZ, so only things that go up in the air before they go boom.

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>>30526495
The WASR10 at least has like a 70% chance of being good and well put-together.

A Century L1A1/R1A1 Sporter has like a 30% chance of successfully cycling a round.

In short, frankenFAL a worst. Garage a best.

>>30526936
All of my early morning runs have yet to yield any results outside of the pistol grip.

>>30527676
you can't own firecrackers tho

>>30526936
Lemme see that boipucci

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>>30527719
run through the brush

>>30527766
here is my watermelon pucci

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>>30527803
My pp didn't even tingle, I need you inna dress bb

Hi.

I'm not interested in big shooty rifles, I'm more interested in rifles with a historical context.

I was thinking of getting a mauser. But I hear that a type-99 would be an ideal bolt-action to own for collection sake. What do you think?

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>>30527719
>2016
>still has VCR
Get your shit together

>>30527571
It's almost home

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>>30527990
That rifles are tools, and have no historical importance. Outside of something passed down through generations. Old hand augurs were sweet when was a kid and my dad and I were needing to put holes in studs before the AC got ran out there.

These days I use my Milwaukee.

>>30528028
>current year
>doesn't have a vcr

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>>30528155
>2002+14
>Not downloading TV shows and movies off the internet and not paying a dime or watching a commercial ever again.

Console peasants

>>30528184
>implying 4k isn't currently a meme
I'm not even a consolefag, but this needs to stop.

>>30528202
You dont have a 4k60hz display?

>>30528232
>60hz
Why would you ever?

>>30527990
>type-99
Have fun trying to find ammo.

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>>30528149
>and have no historical importance
>Durr durr tools
I understand, entirely. The rifle is a tool. You're not wrong, but I find your callous dismissal of the significance imbued in some tools to be completely fucking close-minded.

We as a society like to have relics, whether they're old machines such as an old Model-T, or a fucking forged silver cross in a church. We'd be better off if we had relics with actual context to remind us of the past. People like you would see all that shit thrown away and turned into modern tech. Then how the fuck do we know how far we came?

My uncle is a metalworker and a motorhead. Always has been. The dude can weld like no one's business, and he's the go-to for many people for anything dealing with fabrication. His great-great-grandfather was a fucking blacksmith, who had to make his own tools to work.

My uncle's got several of those tools. Do you know where they are? They're on display in the house, with a little information card explaining what each was used for.

>Hurr durr, why you have that Mosin? Just get a .308 AR and get with the times.

>>30528245
Considering an nvidia 1080 isn't consistent at hitting 60hz at 4k, yeah I'll manage with 60, until 144hz 4k displays come out, which would almost saturate DP bandwidth

>>30528149
>That rifles are tools, and have no historical importance.
Do you sneer at people who drive way better, older cars than you do as well?

Has anyone tried buying one of those SKS crates before?

>>30529070
>sks
>/brg/
Wrong bread friend

>>30529109
Oh.
Wrong tab.

Saw the mosin and thought I was home.

>>30527648
>Summer

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>>30528315
Not really the right thread... BRG is for automatic and semi automatic weapons firing full size rifle cartridges, not for bolt guns.


...But IMO the Type-99 is one of the more interesting adaptations of the mauser action. Just get ready to either pay silly prices for 7.7JAP, or get ready to reload.

>>30528028
Don't insult my VCR-fu.

>>30530333
>Not really the right thread... BRG is for automatic and semi automatic weapons firing full size rifle cartridges, not for bolt guns.

All because I posted a fucking Enfield while calling that other guy a retard.

Relax.

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>>30530379
Shit, my bad. >>30530333 was meant for >>30527990, not trying to hate on your post, mang. I agree though, other guy is a bit of an idiot. Dismissing historic value in a tread centered around three of the most antiquated service rifles still fielded is the height of folly.

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What color do I cerakote my scar 17s upper for maximum /BRG/ shitposting? I want to go with a solid color, no camo.

>>30531076
FDE or gtfo

>>30531192
That's lame, it already comes in FDE.

>>30531218
and now yours will come in FDE too

>>30520709
>tfw you will never unsee the uggboot
Why senpai? Why did they do this to me?

I don't know what scope to buy for my scar 17s

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>>30531726
high quality red dot

>>30529043
>older=better?
what?

I dont sneer at people who have a passion for old, obsolete weapons, cars, whatever. I just dont find a connection to the past in material things.

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>>30531076

>>30531076
I mean if you made the whole thing just one shade of FDE then it would be a special snowflake for a tan scar.

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>>30531076
Maximum shitposting?

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>>30531865
and he could tape off the markings so everyone could see he bought black and not FDE, really express his regret?

Banning specific rifles or features is dumb and wont achieve anything
Its very simple what to do
Ban
Semi-Automatic
Rifles

>>30531914
Full auto only?
Can we keep burst firing at least?

>>30527150
Just get a SCAR, you heretical bastard

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>>30520430
>>30520709
>>30520765
>>30520806
>>30520887
You fuckers ruined my view of the scar now all I see is a boot FUCK YOU!

>>30532551
>implying there's anything wrong with the boot
It's like the maks dick grips, it gives it character

>>30520430
>want SCAR more than oxygen
>live in NY (upstate at least)
>must have died and gone to hell without knowing it
>WAKEMEUP.jpeg

Moving eventually but for now I've got my eye on a saiga in .308 and a pso-1. Will post pics when i get it regardless of how bullied i'll get for not getting an ar-10

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>>30532551
Change it

>>30527394
It wont but the wide handguard is good anyway. Does well for heat, plus the bipod is quick detach.

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>>30531076
Will stick out from the regular FDE crowd

>>30533152
If your going to make a semi auto in a non standard caliber, at least do it in an interesting caliber.

>>30525006
I have a new waifu.

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I want this rifle to fuck me daily ;_;

>>30525064
and half decent beer from the looks of it

>>30533838
Don't set the bar too high now

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>>30533893
Is shiner really that bad? For a very small price increase (in my area), it's a massive improvement over Bud and Coors that doesn't break the bank to buy in bulk.

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Rolls Royce of battle rifles coming through.

Fuck it's heavy as fuck.

>>30534352
Stop being poor

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>>30534366
Now what'cha got thereeee?

>>30534368
Fair enough, if I have money to blow on .308 then I can probably afford to blow some on decent beer.

>>30534400
Stgw. 57

>>30534352
Your not even old enough to drink beer faggot

>>30531076
Rhodie cerkaote. Make this real.

>>30520659
>>30520448
You goddamned Zika afflicted retard.

>>30534426
Ya got me there.

>>30520430
any recommendations other than the south african rig for battle jackets and such?

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>>30520430
SCAR uses 7.62x51, not .308

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>>30534781

>>30534366
You lucky fuck I want one so bad but I'm a poor as shit student

>>30534938
Can't afford 300 Swiss francs?

>>30534954
Which Canton are you in?

>>30534986
AG

>>30534998
A few years when the chf:EUR went nutty it must have sweet to be so close to Germany to get shit cheaper

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>>30533893
>>30534352
>>30534368
>>30534415
>shiner
>bad
no

>>30520709
Holy shit it is an ugg

Anyone use a vortex strike eagle here?

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>>30527990
You should check the milsurp general thread if there's one up, they will probably recommend a Yugo M48 Mauser if this is going to be your first milsurp gun other than a Mosin. A k-31 is another good recommendation, and type-99's are also actually very good rifles (I know several people who think they're the best bolt rifle of WW2) but ammo for them can be expensive.

>>30528028
>>30527719
>>30528155
>>30528184
>>30530333
>current year
>doesn't own laserdisc
>or a PVM

>>30536025
>I listen to all my music from wax cylinders

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Gold is tactical right?

>>30536654
Nice
Tiger stripes gold is more so
But 8/10

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>>30531856

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>>30537189
this desu fampai

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>>30537189
Maybe red?

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>>30537189
>FN blue

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>>30537280
Apparently Gunkote makes a version called Anodized Blue that matches the FN blue.
I'd get my FNS done like this with it.

Too bad battle raifus are too expensive for your average poorfag, I wish this general was a bit more active sometimes

>>30537227
do mauve

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>>30537300
Cerakote NRA blue is pretty close too.
There isn't a strict color palate chip that is the definitive color. FN is known for not giving a shit over color matching. But that anodized blue is pretty tight.

>>30526841
Oh there's no doubt I'm a poorfag, that fact cannot be contested. I just feel like a retard because I fucked around for too long and ended up missing out on free shipping too because of the Orlandofag panic.

>>30537466
>Complaining about missing out on free shipping
It's $30 faggot
Bring your lunch to work for a few days, bam, $30

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>>30537466
You mean something like this?

>>30537497
Yes, exactly like that. You smug son of a bitch.
>>30537493
It's not a huge deal but it still would've been nice.

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this is my rifle

>>30537735
Needs a lug

>>30537998
I bought mags and sling instead

then I bought a metal buttplate

the lug will fall somewhere between a shitload of ammo and my next rifle

>>30538024
I'm partial to pepper laminate stocks on that gun

>>30538127
by the time I get done buying stuff for this rifle it's going to cost as much as a SCAR

fucking kill me

>>30525395
ebin troll ubvoted

They're full on banning semi autos with any features and you're crying about a scar...

When this anti 2a shit fest hits your state, you'll wish you got active NOW

>>30538317
I'm very active in the firearms community, I shitpost everyday

>>30538317
I don't live in a shit state
Move, or at least stop projecting

>>30538200
Then why not buy a scar?

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Calicuck in the market for a battle rifle before we get cucked even more. Don't really know too much and am seeking wisdom. Can /brg/ give me their battle rifle teir lists?

Pic unrelated

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>>30538688
Samefag here

Also, I forgot to mention that I'm not a poorfag, so cost isn't an issue. I'm leaning towards a SCAR because they make me hard when I see them, but am open to other ideas

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>>30538683
because `Nam

I also wanted a gun with the Garand action

>>30538688
Great tier: SCAR
Good tier: FAL, PTR
Ok tier: Voyager, PTR 91GI, AR-10, M1A
Shit Tier:C308 L1A1

>>30538723
I agree with the 'nam part but I'd get a M1A with walnut stock if I was going for 'nam nostalgia, but hey can't wait to see the final product

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>>30538719
I wouldn't get a scar as a calicuck unless you move out desu

>>30538762
Saving my pennies for an M14 stock with the selector cut out so I can decorate it with a fake selector lock

>>30538742
What's the difference between the PTR and PTR GI that separates them in quality?

>>30520430
AusFag, I can't buy shit, fuck John Howard!

>>30538816
Barrel, fit, finish etc. think of the GI as a plain jane budget AR-15 while the more expensive models are better built, nothing wrong with the GI model, I have one myself and love it. I just know that there are better quality PTRs out there

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>>30538816
I think that more expensive PTRs have a powder coat finish and/or a bull barrel, while the GI is parkerized and has an original HK profile barrel.

>>30538784
bullet buttons exist, and would be grandfathered if registered before 2017

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>>30536057
take your mid mount off before you snag it off something

>>30537735
need wood

>>30538784
fuggo af

>>30538871
>I think that more expensive PTRs have a powder coat finish and/or a bull barrel
The A3R from atlantic has the powder coat finish and the HK profile barrel
>And if mine is any indication it doesn't group for shit
I'm probably just shit, though... Does anyone else feel like the G3 platform is just hard to shoot well?

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>>30539089
I can't quite pull it off like this guy

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>>30539128
Hence the and/or. The really expensive PTRs like the FR or whatever it's called have both, and those are like the same price as a proper SA58 (i.e. not a Voyager).

The G3 has funny recoil imo, but it's not worse than other BRs (SCAR 17 aside). It's just more of an awkward shove instead of a kick.

>>30539226
>but it's not worse than other BRs
Yeah, it kicks much more softly than my m1a, it's gotta be related to the billion pound return spring and how fast the action operates.

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Why are there so many "battle rifles" these days being made with 1in10 twist rates? I just want a PTR and DS58 with good old 1in12 twist rates so I can use military bulk ammo. Fucking hell. I don't want a DMR, I want a hard nosed, bayonet equipped lead sprayer. If I want to stablize 175gr bullets, I'd get a bolt gun.

Also, I am hoping to one day get my hands on M993ap. These bullets are 125gr, so I REALLY want a legal BR in that can stabilize the vast majority of military ammo.

Sorry for sperging there.

>>30539704
I should clarify that both PTR and DSA are making their rifles with the ridiculous 1in10 twist rates these days. The M1A at least is 1in11. Also, I would like to purchase a BR for under 1k which is why the PTR being in 1in10 twist rates, is very annoying.

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>>30539704
Get a SCAR, its 1:12
The reason why is that people have been told that you need 1:10 to shoot the 175gr pills, so they go that route.
>>30539735
>under $1000
fucking poorfags

Get an FNAR, its 1:12

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>>30539777
>175gr meme cartridge

All the good military ap/barrier blind ammo is light. Hence why ALL military 7.62NATO MG's and BR's are all in 1in12 twist. Even sniper rifles still maintain a minimum 1in11.25 twist.

Also, the cheapest bulk ammo for .308/7.62NATO are 155gr to 145gr.

>>30539900
>Actual defense of light grain cartridge loadings
Neat

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>>30539900
both M21 and M25 sniper rifles had twists under 1:11.25

>>30540233
Yet not the 1in10 that really is only popular for one god damn cartridge: the 175gr SMK.

>>30541892
>That much extra effort to turn an M1A into a bad SCAR clone

>>30542770
I like the SAGE stock, I think it looks cool. Yeah yeah, it' makes an already heavy rifle even heavier, but it's not like my M1A was anything other than a range queen to begin with.

>>30542770
it's in no way a SCAR clone, pretty much the only thing they share common is caliber

Never thought about buying one of these before.

Are M14s hard to come by?

>>30543075
You can find Springfield's M1A's at most gun stores, they're just expensive because it's them and like, three other manufacturers making semi auto repros.

>>30543075
Easy to buy, hard to maintain (by modern standards)

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What is the best rifle chambered in 7.62x51mm/ .308 that can be purchased for under $1500.

>Hard mode: Semi Auto

>>30543870
>Hard mode: Semi Auto
How that fuck is that hard? Are you new to guns?

Nogunz here, is there any difference between the more modern looking military rifles and the older wooden ones? Besides the ability to accessories?

>>30544211
They'll put the same calibre holes in the same targets if that's what you mean, but the actions of each gun can vary greatly.

>>30544229

Are the older ones still semi auto? Or more frequently bolt action? Which are cheaper? Easier to maintain? Or are these questions to vague? Sorry for question dumping, your guys' sticky doesn't have any info links or anything

>>30544246
All battle rifles are semi auto, this is a battle rifle thread. Obviously something like a SCAR which was designed very recently with modern materials is easier to break down, clean, and lube than an M1A which traces it's design back to the 1930's. Battle rifles are expensive guns, a SCAR17 will set you back a few thousand, an M1A about $1500

>>30544246
How old are we talking?
Infantry had commonly issued semi-auto rifles since WW2, with rifles like the Garand and SVT. Modern furniture usually means lighter weight to carry (solid wood is heavy) and, sometimes as you mentioned, the ability to "accessorize".
Bolt actions have been common up to and including WW2 though.

>>30544281
>>30544263

Thank you for the advice anons.

What rifle is the most well rounded? Something that I could use for self defense, hunting, that is easy to maintain? It doesn't need to be the best in these categories, just something somewhat versatile and reliable.

>>30544300
How much are you looking to spend?

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>>30544300
You're opening a can of worms with that question. If you had just asked which one was best we could just all agree on the SCAR17 and go to bed.

>>30544336
>>30544334

Kek I'm sorry anons. I am poor, and just want to be able to protect my self and my girlfriend. If you have any sites you'd recommend I'd gladly do my own reading.

What if you build a SCAR out of wood?

>>30544353
If you give a dollar amount of how much you want to spend (or a range) and where you live, it'd be easier for people to help you.

>>30544369

I live in Indiana, am 20, have ~$500

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>>30542840

>>30543870
DS Arms SA58

>>30544396
Battle rifles will usually run you a bit more.
Consider a cheap AR build or a shotgun?

>>30544396
>$500
If you're just looking for HD, get a shotgun. You're not getting a battle rifle with that budget. Especially with ammo being $.50/round. Like the other anon said, get a shotgun.

>>30544815
Shotguns for HD might have been the best choice in like the 1930s. For $500 you could put together a poverty AR15 build that will a better option. In particular it wont shoot through nearly as many panes of drywall.

>>30544825
If it means the guy wont get back up, I'll gladly do some drywall work.

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>>30544831
Mag capacity is a thing
Reload speed is a thing
Recoil moving your weapon off target is a thing

the .223 is perfectly suitable at HD distances.

And its less about doing drywall work, and less about hitting your loved ones, friends, neighbors in head the stray bullets.

My state laws are pretty lenient.

Money, however, isn't. If I had the money, I'd buy an original H&K G3A3 or G3SG1 and get one of those sight mounts for it, y'know the ones that look like vices with a rail on top, and slap on a huge WWII era German made scope.

>>30544861
>Mag capacity is a thing
>Reload speed is a thing
Is your home being invaded by 5+ people? Holy shit. Your killing a couple people, not the entire mafia. And as for hitting your loved ones, you should be aware of your surroundings anyways. And especially aware of what is behind and around your target. That's one of the core tenants of firearm safety.

>>30544869
>especially aware of what is behind and around your target
What about whats behind walls.

My home isnt getting invaded. I live in an area with no crime, shit is amazing here. Mag capacity is a thing because missing in stressful situations is a thing. Mag capacity is a thing because if its worth shooting once, its worth shooting a couple more times to be certain the threat is really dealt with.

>>30544887
>What about whats behind walls.
Are your walls so thin they can't stop a bit of buckshot? It's a shotgun, not a 20mm cannon.

>>30544897
Buckshot will go through like three or four double pane walls.

>>30544897

Can shotguns shoot slugs or buckshot? What is the difference?

>>30545251
They can shoot either. Buckshot is many small pellets contained within the shell. Slugs are basically one large high power bullet. They're also basically snails without shells.

>>30545262

Kek. If I am in my home, would I not prefer to use slugs to prevent collateral damage? I imagine they do much more damage to a human bean.

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>>30539735
>>30539704
Well, you could always get a garage FAL with a military surplus barrel if your dream is to eat through M80 like a champ. My IMBEL barrel is 1:12, and I'd imagine that the FALs made in the first world are too (excepting DSA).

>>30545767
I'm so sick of seeing this faggot and his ugly ass rifle. I bet you fuck yourself in a furry suit with that rifle too

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>>30520467
>1800 bucks

What the fuck dude, just buy a different gun at that point.

>>30546089
That's not the same rifle.
Cross dresser uses a trip and glossy paint

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>>30546089
No no, none of that. I'm just a sad, sad human being who gets his kicks from angering you guys.

In a way, it makes me happy that my rifle so instantly draws recognition and hatred, but at the same time it just reminds me that I'm a pitiful person that just shitposts for attention because of things that are lacking in my own life, be they friends, family, or working relationships. I'm a failure as a human being, and instead of trying to change that I've instead twisted myself to the point that I enjoy my shortcomings and failings, and enjoy when people point them out. It's a disgusting way of coping with this hole I've dug myself into, and it's a mechanism for justifying my refusal to crawl out.

So really, I deserve your hate.

But at the same time, I'm going to have to ask you to post your BR, fampai.

>>30546334
In his defense, my rifle is probably one of the ugliest - if not THE ugliest - on /k/, and it's almost certainly the most disgusting one on /brg/.

>>30546417
Trips FAL is glossy, therefore uglier
Your rifle is FAL, so more aesthetic than any G3 clone.

Now it is a beater FAL.

On a side note my FFL doesn't have their info on file with DSA, and isn't answering the phone. I just want a forged type II!

>>30546102
You could get a real nice poodle shooter for that much dosh.

>>30547383
In a boring as fuck AR, sure

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If only it was mlok

>>30546417
At least you faux Rhoadie FAL doesn't have a bipod

>>30546417
You on SA bro? We should go to the range if so.

>>30548125
Which one? I'm not doing shit this weekend, and I'll be moving to CSTAT pretty soon.

>>30548188
Any one of them that isnt expwnsive or suck, I dont know the ranges here in SA.

I still need to test out my poverty c308. You can potentially witness me get maimed and capture the moment to share here.

Are MAS 49/56 fags allowed in /arg/?

>>30548322
>/arg/
Wrong bregg

>>30548245
You got $20 to blow? The Bullet hole is pretty good.

>>30547959
disgusting.png

Might as well just get a scar friend

>>30548336
Meant /brg/. One letter off.

>>30548336
Yeah I can scare up $20. Just keep the homoerautism to low levels and should be okie dokie.

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>>30548434
I already have one

>>30548726
8am tomorrow or sunday?

Dug
DSAs employee that enters in FFL info is out for a show. Left like 15 minutes after I had it faxed over.

Order it Monday.
Found out the new forged is all done in house again.

>>30549318
...
Fug

>>30548912
Saturday sounds good. Its 17.50 per person for a 2 hour private bay. Plus $5 for me cause I need a card from them. Are they bitches about buying their ammo like the texas thunder place? Freak out if I wear a load carrier? Lol.

>>30548780
Then don't fuck up a FAL you nigger

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>>30549672
Already have a barrel in .358 Winchester for it

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>>30549672
Have to call DSA back on Monday to order a forged receiver (still not sure on carry handle).

Have the ACR stock adapter.

It's going to look like a short gas action of this

>>30544737
I own an M1A and this anon's opinion is wrong. Sounds like sour grapes to me

>>30549502
Nope, they're cool with whatever you bring, and vests are no issue with them.

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We grenade sight now

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>>30550612

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>>30550612
Just need some rifle grenades and you got a MFing party

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>>30550783
>m70 grenade sort of fits over the flash hider
>not sure if it will explode

>>30550853
>AK
>/brg/
Intermediate git

New thread
>>30550931

>>30550931

>>30550931

>>30550887
>not reading the thread
Wew
Lad

>>30538742
what's wrong w/ C308? I've only heard good things about it