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What does /k/ think about revolvers being used in real combat

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What does /k/ think about revolvers being used in real combat situations?
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>>30452478
I'd rather have an autoloader but for doing what a handgun needs to do they get the job done.
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>>30452478
Revolvers are only good when you don't wish to leave evidence.
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Personal preference I suppose.
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>>30452478
They'll kill just fine. 6 shots is probably enough. They can shoot hotter rounds.

I guess if you think you'll be fine with 6 rounds, then go for it. I personally would for me.

Nothing really wrong with revolvers
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>>30452478
As backup to a carbine I don't see why not. As a primary combat weapon I'd want something with more capacity.

>unless we're talking about fighting bears
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>>30452478
In general? As much as I love revolvers for reliability and, generally, higher stopping power, they don't fire quickly enough in the kind of hectic environment produced by combat. They're excellent tools for home defense and good for finishing off tougher animals while hunting, but autoloaders have made them obsolete for military and police forces in most places.
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>>30452612
>stopping power
Your opinion just flew out the window.
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I find myself more confident putting a shot where I want it to be with a revolver over an automatic, so I would have no problem going into a situation with a .357 magnum. Anyone else feel like a better shooter with a revolver?
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when you're jerry miculek it's cool.
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>>30452612
don't fire quickly enough? Do you shoot single actions?
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They are used today in SWAT teams in combination with the shield. Automatic can fail to feed if slide gets stuck on the edge of the shield.
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>>30452478

I'd rather have annauto, even though I love revolvers.

Let's face it. Revolvers are antiquated. They work, sure. But so do autos. And autos have 2 or 3 times the capacity. And are easier to reload. And can have caliber commonality with SMGs.
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>>30452827
Yeah. First time shooting I went with a glock in 9 and another one chambered in 45 gap along with a
.357 mag and .44. 1 inch groups with both magnum revolvers at 15 meters.
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>>30452904
Problem is that reloading a revolver is fucking stupid hard with a shield in hand. With an auto you just drop mag, reholster, hit the slide stop. With a revolver there is no good way to reload using one hand. Yes you can and probably should carry 2 pistols if you're the shield man but then a guy with 2 Glocks can have 40 rounds on tap while a revolver guy gets 12.
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>>30452981
>drop mag, reholster, hit the slide stop
whoops, meant to write drop mag, reholster, insert mag, hit the slide stop
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>>30452478
Revolvers are outdated, and magnum rounds are unneeded.

A high-capacity semi-auto is all you need. Even a Makarov would be infinitely more useful than a revolver in combat.
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>>30452618
>Not wanting a revolver for the literal, unironic stopping power

It's like you don't even know how bad a hollow point .44 mag can mess up the niggest of nogs
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>>30452478
They're pretty good.
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>>30452478
Eh, depends on what combat you have in mind.
How often do most grunts use anything but their rifle in non-urban combat? as such I would say that whenever a glock etc could be used out in the open, a revolver could do better, as it is a life or death situation where you need to put some rounds in someone and a jam will cost you your life for sure. Same reason I would go for the simplest combat knife possible, you don't want to need it, but when you do, you don't want anything fancy.

Urban combat, where due to close quarters the secondary pistols may become primary weapons, I would go for a higher magazine capacity because suppression may be required and I can't use my rifle due to lack of space.

Horses for courses desu, same as asking if there is a place for shotguns in modern combat.
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>>30453026
Problem is that military guns get beat to shit with little maintenance or actually harmful "maintenance." Armorer work on a revolver is more time consuming and unlike autoloaders a revolver with a fucked up frame or with flame cutting is more or less irreparable, whereas on an auto you can swap out a cracked slide or frame.
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>>30453040
Fair point, just an idealist opinion that they could be combat effective in a small number of situations where jams would mean assured death.
As you say though, not worth the investment from a brass perspective.
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>>30452618
Stopping power is a thing, dude. It even has its own Wikipedia page.
"Stopping power is the ability of a firearm or other weapon to cause enough ballistic trauma to a target (human or animal) to immediately incapacitate (and thus stop) the target. This contrasts with lethality in that stopping power pertains only to a weapon's ability to incapacitate quickly, regardless of whether death ultimately occurs."
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>>30452478
a 12 gauge revolver for door removing
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>>30452478
in an honest to god SHTF situation, an autoloader is the better option, for the same reason that every dindu ends up with 5+ rounds in him.

You want the target dealth with, end of discussion.

Yes a revolver can have more of a punch to it and really fuck a guy up, but when it boils down, who in their right mind would be stingy with that extra round to the chest? Be it drugs or adrenaline, some motherfucker will keep going or not notice they have been shot, taking the chance of "one and done" is not an option when fighting for your life.

Now, if said revolver had the option of shotshell, that might be a better option.

TLDR: Put enough rounds in him so you shouldn't need to doubble-tap, then doubble-tap
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>>30453103
That is just such an abstract concept that I can see people hating it. I think it is okay to talk about the general concept, but I would rather see "energy transferred" or "wound size" as a measurement. Those can be measured and they can be quantified.


That said, your opinion is flawed, since they obviously found a spot in certain situations. See GIGN, Manhurin MR 73 and the 1994 Air France Flight 8969 raid. It might be a niche, close quarters with obstacles for hand and body movement, but I can see it being used today in at least a sidearm capacity with a "BIGGER STOPPING POWER CARTRDIGE" against NIJ II armored targets.
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>>30452988
>Revolvers are outdated, and magnum rounds are unneeded.
Maybe the revolver is there because it's higher calibre than the smg.

Revolver with AP for body armour maybe?

nogunz here, don't know what the fuck I'm saying
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>>30453018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSxPTlJ1nOA
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>>30452478
It worked for the GIGN during the assault on the grounded Airbus in Marseille-Marignane airport in 1994. They all had a semi auto pistol as a backup though.
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>>30452478
>>30453395
video related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vdFB884dgw
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>>30453407
>>30453395
That's some intense firefight scene.
I get it. Revolver is a viable choice over any other handgun, albeit its apparent yet not totally deal-breaking shortcomings.
I just can't figure out why would someone carry a pistol as a backup weapon for a revolver.
Why not just carry two fucking semi auto pistol if you're so afraid of one being dysfunctional in the heat of the battle.
>Surplus revolver inventory you say? That explains a lot.
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>>30453696

>need to draw a gun quick if someone runs up on you
>semi-auto has a failure to fire
>I'll just tap rack

vs

>need to draw a gun quick if someone runs up on you
>revolver has a failure to fire
>pull trigger again
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>>30453774
Yeah right hooray for the revolvers.
So why not GIGN operators carry two revolver then?
I was wondering why would you carry a semi-auto just to be the backup weapon of a revolver.
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>>30453834
>I was wondering why would you carry a semi-auto just to be the backup weapon of a revolver.

suppressing fire?
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>>30452585
My grandfather told me this verbatim when I was about nine years old.
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>>30453834
>hurrr hurrr why would you carry two different tools instead of just duplicates of the same tool?

Same reason I'd carry a hammer and a screwdriver instead of two hammers. They've got different uses.
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>>30453696
>>30453774
>That's some intense firefight scene.

And the best part : it's entirely accurate. No GIGN operator was killed but a lot were injured not any hostage was even injured.
Call it pure luck because it is.

The 4 terrorists were killed.

The next day François Mitterand, the socialist french president then, invited the GIGN members in the Elysée palace to congratulate them.

None of them were masked.

After this, litterally ALL of them suffered from threats directed towards their families by the islamists terrorists who had activated their networks to localize these people and their families.

That's when the last shitheads at the top of french counter terrorism understood being undercover was mandatory.

Here's a video of the guy, Thierry, who neutralised 3 of the 4 terrorists, and took a hail of AK round and a grenade in the back, ass, and legs, in the scene I linked prior. He's still shooting. Good stuff starts at 5'14.

https://youtu.be/FlVLobAmCHc?t=314

>"this is a MR73, weapon of all GIGN members, mine was destroyed during the assault, the group offered me this one engraved with my name. I like shooting but since I can't shoot with my right arm anymore I took a step back. Now i only have fun shooting stuff."
>"Thierry ended his carrier as a shooting instructor"

Believe it or not, despite being decorated with every single medal the french army and police and office of fabulousness France knows, Thierry was never granted the grade of major.

>>30453834
It was a cultural thing I believe.
Nowadays just everybody uses a Glock 17 or 34.
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>>30454123
Fuck me, that's brutal.
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>>30454089
What is the different purpose of revolver vs auto then?
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6 bullets. More than enough to kill anything that moves
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>>30453167
I want one right now
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>>30454089
Revolvers and pistols are tools design to accomplish the same exact thing.
With different set of pros and cons.
Learn to analogy.
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>>30452478
Not at all my first choice. That said, keeping a little J-Frame snubby in a pocket holster tucked inside a pouch on your rig wouldn't be a bad idea as a last ditch effort BUG.
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>>30454167
Revolver is for reliable "react" gun to draw if someone runs up on you and you can't afford a failure to fire/dud/can't tap/rack in time.

Semi-auto is for "I don't have a longarm on me and there's five guys over there I want to shoot"
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>>30454123
So.. basically surplus revolver inventory resulted from probably 1940s doctrine.
Good thing they finally scrapped all those revolvers. Just my personal opinion.
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>>30454185
I disagree. That's like saying shotguns, revolvers, and sniper rifles are tools designed to accomplish the exact same thing (killin' people). They have different functions.
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>>30454221
I don't quite understand the "surplus" part, the MR73 is a .357 magnum which production started in, you guessed it, 1973. Before that, the Police and Gendarmerie Used MAC50 9mm pistols.
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>>30454221
>scrapped
>still standard issue

???
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>>30453319
No you're right, Mr nogunz

Revolvers are ultimately preferrence, since things like AP rounds and larger calibers are possible with polymer pistols now, bit thats not to say it can't all be done with a revolver.
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>>30454123
too bad they didn't just haul in the families and put them in prison for life.

its bullshit that you should have to be undercover to do that job. that only contributes to the climate of fear that the terrorism itself is intended to create. yeah the gear has to be militarized but this is still essentially a police action; why the fuck do we in the western world go around semi-tolerating these cancerous ideologies at the expense of the comfort of our own people? fucking extradite and bury in gitmo.
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>>30454227
Sniper rifles have reach that revolvers won't even dream of.
Shotguns have multiple ammo type of your choice.
Pistols and revolvers however, share the same category for the most part.
>Revolvers and pistols are tools design to accomplish the same exact thing.
Still stands, the "thing" is not just propel a metal object.
That would be truly overlook the differences in firearms.
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>>30454304
So why is reach a valid difference but not failure to fire avoidance a valid difference?
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>>30452612
They really aren't as reliable as the memes would have you believe.
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>>30452478
Maybe if it's a .44 but .357s have been almost entirely replaced by really hot 10mm HPs.
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>>30454337
Except they are in regards to dealing with duds, FTF, stovepiping or a double feed. because those aren't issues for a revolver; you just pull the trigger again.

I'm not saying that a revolver is infallible, but there are reliability advantages. Semi-autos have capacity advantages.
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>>30454374
Tap and rack.
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>>30454402
Can't be done with one hand, and takes much longer than just pulling the trigger again.

Also tap and rack will not solve a double feed. You have to do a mag pull before racking.
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>>30454325
>So why is reach a valid difference but not failure to fire avoidance a valid difference?
Because reach and ammo type selection are some of the primary concerns between different purpose you wish to accomplish with firearms.
SWAT would't carry a Glock to sniping mission.
But in any scenario that a revolver is fit for, a pistol would do just fine as well. Vice versa.
>failure to fire avoidence
>revolver
You mean it doesn't require rack the slide after misfire?
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>>30454419

See >>30454374 and >>30454416

If you're drawing on someone who is rushing you with a knife, and you're pulling the trigger on a double action revolver, you are going to shoot them, barring all of your rounds being duds.

If you're drawing on someone rushing you with a knife with a semi-automatic and you have a failure to fire, and you're confident that you're going to tap and rack before being stabbed in the neck, be my guest.

As I said, I don't believe that revolvers are infallible, nor am I saying they're the be all end all for a sidearm. I'm just saying there is a very clear, albeit niche, use for them, in regards to "I need this gun to fire right fucking now".

Maybe I'm crazy and paranoid for being concerned with that situation, but I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
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>>30454416
Well the first point can be countered with a google search of one handed racks.

While yes it is slower, so is reloading a revolver. Which unlike a jam is 100% guaranteed to happen.
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>>30454374
>you just pull the trigger again.
until a blown-out case jams the cylinder and turns your revolver into an expensive rock.

semiauto failures all have issues, yes. and those issues it has which revolvers don't, all have a viable solution for while you're still being shot at.

>>30454416
>You have to do a mag pull before racking.
you have to do X, but you have an X to do, instead of zero options.
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>>30454447
Only guaranteed to happen based on how many people you need to shoot.

Also, moonclips/speedloaders are a thing.
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>>30454468
Okay clint eastwood. But what about for fighting normal humans that don't stand out in a clear well lit environment waiting to be shot?
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>>30454442
I'm not talking about your self-defense scenario here.
I was talking about GIGN.
>be civilian, get mugged by nigs, better shoot
>Opps it doesn't go bang, can't trouble shoot before getting stabbed thirty times
v.s.
>be top tier operator in France
>Opps my pistol doesn't go bang, better let my buddy covering me with his pistol while I deal with this
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>>30454500
So you're saying GIGN, a small, specifically funded SWAT unit, actively sabotaged their ability to perform in extreme danger situations by choosing the Manurhin 73?

Literally the only advantage offered to them by a semi-auto was capacity. In scenarios where they're already going in prepared with a primary long-arm.
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>>30452981
They also have another guy on their ass with a m4 or whatever room clearing tool they chose.
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>>30454530
>So you're saying GIGN, a small, specifically funded SWAT unit, actively sabotaged their ability to perform in extreme danger situations by choosing the Manurhin 73?
Nice straw man there bud.
MR73 isn't cheap.
I guess the adjustable trigger is totally worth it.
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>>30453407
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1rG-i3lsb0

original video
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>>30454221
>MR73
>surplus

it's the Rolls Royce of revolvers
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>>30452618
Where revolvers excel are Magnum calibers. .44 Magnum out of a four inch revolver has similar energy to 5.56 from a 16" rifle. And .454 Casull gets into the low end of battle rifle caliber energy. All in a relatively small package. 10mm does get you into hot .357 Magnum energy and can be had in a reasonably sized handgun. There's also .460 Rowland, which is comparable to .44 Magnum, but it requires a muzzle brake to work probably in a pistol.
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>>30454457
>But what if it blows up on you?

The same could happen to a polymer handgun (it happens more often, actually) and it would also leave you with zero options.

There are pros to revolvers, anon. Trust us.
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>>30452827
My first handgun was a single action .357 Magnum Blackhawk. It sort of annoys me that I shoot a plow handled single action better than anything else years later.
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>>30453026
Most grunts don't have a secondary weapon, their service rifle is their only lifeline.
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I had many jams with semi-auto(mostly bad ammo) so I rather have revolver if the only thing in hand is cheap ammo
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>>30453167
I'd buy one
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>>30454681
no, that's Korth
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>>30453167
Bretty sure the MTs-255 is 20ga
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>>30454737
So what would be the McLaren of Revolvers?
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>>30454808
Probably something by Bowen custom.
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>>30454808
I was always under the impression that Dan Wesson made the best
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>>30454123
lot of injureds tho watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bls7B191cpU
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>>30452478
https://youtu.be/qzMx3Z5EbQQ?t=348
watch that segment and then answer your own question.

revolvers are shit
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>>30452618
>5.56 out of a 16" barrel can barely put down a human
>.44 magnum out of a 6" barrel is considered a legal, humane, hunting round for deer
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>>30452585
why is that?
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>>30457087
because you don't leave any spent casings behind, duh
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>>30452478
If you think about the calibre you need to actually hurt people in "real combat" you are almost forced to take a revolver from the civilian market.
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>>30452478
Breddy gud
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>>30457073
On the other hand, 5.56 out of a 16" barrel is also a legal and humane hunting round for deer
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>>30457094

I'm not from /k/, just a tourist. I know nothing about guns, sorry!
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>>30457146
just remember revolvers are shit
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>>30453395
Don't they shoot each other with for like a test or something
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>>30455501
>https://youtu.be/FlVLobAmCHc?t=314

So what's the Honda Civic of revolvers?
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>>30454597
I thought they used sw586
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>>30452478

Considering a pistol's main role is emergency suppressive fire while you get to cover to find out what is wrong with your rifle, more ammo = more better.

Pic unrelated.
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>>30457447
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJecVFaLGq0
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>>30452618
Anon, when people talk about stopping power being a meme they're referring to automatic handgun cartridges like 9mm, .40s&w, and .45acp. .357 magnum is when stopping power actually does see a big bump up.
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>>30457146
>>30457087
automatics eject brass, which, if you're a goof, will have your fingerprints on it. if you're going to be a bad boy, use some nitrile gloves to load your magazines.

revolver's only eject brass when you manually swing open the cylinder and operate the ejection rod, so you can easily eject the used brass into your palm and then pocket it away from the crime scene
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>>30457447
yeah they wear like huge armor though, it's fucking crazy and requires a shitload of trust
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>>30457459
>So what's the Honda Civic of revolvers?

S&W Model 10
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>>30457547
>>30457560
Holy shit. Why don't we do stuff like this
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>>30454076
your grandpa sounds like a reasonable man. did he show you how to do dangerous stuff like mine - was with the Royal Army Ordnance Corps and did a bunch of stuff during the blitz. Still had all ten fingers
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>>30453407
Goddam that blonde French bitch is ugly
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>>30452612
a 1911 has more than enough stopping power and you can reload it much faster. A .44 magnum is overkill
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>>30452478
As something in the bottom of my bag or a snub nose hidden in my vest or ankle holstered I think it is a great reliable back up for when your backup is empty. Last stand beyond sidearm, before knife.
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>>30458567
>stopping power
There's that term again. When will people who know nothing about firearms stop talking about firearms?
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>>30454757
the law enforcement version is 12 gauge
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Does self defense count as "real combat" or are we only talking LE/ Military? Either was one major advantage to revolvers is they don't go out of battery when you press them against someone's body.
Other than that I can't think of a major advantage to revolvers
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>>30453407
Thanks for sharing
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>>30453204
Unless its an S&W 500
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>>30452478

as much as I like them I'd rather have a handgun
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>>30458454
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>>30452953
Honestly though SMG's are becoming fairly irrelevant.
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>>30452478
I'm a big fan revolvers for civilian life and I think they have some good aspects for SHTF scenarios, but I think the majority of combat professions are better served with a semi auto.
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>>30454174
except 7 moving things
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>>30461653
>not getting two for one bullet
Step up your game
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>>30461653
Be a good shot
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>>30452618
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>>30455501
Christ, just hit people with that thing. Looks like it can bust some skulls.
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>>30462874
https://youtu.be/oorh_yYuhvE?t=1m15s
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>>30452478

They aren't ideal for "combat" in the military sense, but for law enforcement or self defense in a gunfight they have several advantages including reliability. The biggest disadvantage is that they're totally impractical to load in any sort of moving gun fight. Two situations I can think of where I would personally take one over a garden variety 9/.40/.45.

As your only gun, a 6" .357 splits the difference between a pistol and a rifle in the sense that your practical range is going to be much further than a pistol, since much more care is put into the quality of the trigger, and they've got much higher power and a longer sight radius.

As a vehicle gun, since you can minimize the effects of the disadvantages. The high power of .357 makes it better for shooting through car body panels, and the 6 round limitation is less important if you plan around only having to fight your way to a carbine in your trunk.

Personally I'd carry a revolver just because I spend more time with them at the range. A long, smooth double action with contoured grips just feels more natural to me than a semi-auto, and I shoot them much more accurately at speed.

>>30454337
>They really aren't as reliable as the memes would have you believe.

Reliable and durable are two different things.

I've got no doubt a modern semi-auto will be better at shooting a huge six-digit round count costing literally 20x the value of the gun when it was new, or some nonsense where the gun gets dropped in a bucket of mud.

In real situations that actual people face, like using a clean gun out of a holster that has probably less that 10000 rounds through it, a revolver is almost certainly going to be more reliable.
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>>30453018
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>>30457552
> Squat
> Pick up brass
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>>30457491
Tom Clancy pls go
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>>30452478
I'd be fine with using an SA revolver in combat, but it's the only handgun I have, so...
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>>30463514
Clearly no idea on how easy one could be lost
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>>30464065
Eh... what? You do not lose a firearm in battle. I'd sooner lose a limb. What the hell military did you come from?
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>>30464299
hes talking about the brass casing, dummy
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I want the armor they use
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>>30452618
Stopping power as it applies to cartridges like the .44mag, .454 casull, .500 S&W, is absolutely real.
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>>30453167
I have the sudden urge to cc two of these in shoulder holsters for full borderlands-esque badassness
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>>30454808
>>30455501
>>30455252
mr is the best,not by far but it will always be the one pistol that have so little know failures and have been used by an anti hostage team with that kind of reliability
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>>30453026
Revolvers aren't more reliable. It's a meme dating 120 to 100 years ago, when metallic cartridges were something relatively new, pistols were rare, and industrial manufacturing processes were still dodgy.

During this time what happened was that pistols jammed because of faulty mags and faulty ammo. To continue to fire the gun, the shooter had to clear the jam. Revolvers offered the advantage of when having one round not firing because of a faulty primer, the only thing the shooter had to do was to cycle the cylinder.
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>>30452953
>autos have 2 or 3 times the capacity. And are easier to reload
more capacity, more reload
just admit it's harder than it looks to accurately aim a firearm, it's probably not the revolvers fault from any sort of mechanical standpoint that you need LOTS more bullets.
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>>30452598
Six shots...
>performs gratuitous juggling act
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Come on guys, will you please stop attributing divine powers to pieces of steel?

Yes, an MR-73 is a great revolver.
Yes, it's made of unobtanium and will not blow your hand up even if you fire an accidental .357Mag load (it'll still ruin the cylinder, but it won't burst and the frame won't be damaged).
Yes, the MR-73 was designed to be able to survive an extreme training regime without need for replacement of major parts. GIGN used S&Ws and Colts prior to the Manurhins, and had to discard those weapons after a 4 to 6 weeks of use due to frame stretch, ratchet failure, etc. GIGN burned through insane amounts of -hot- .357Mag on a daily basis at the time.

GIGN's point man would generally always use his .357Mag with what we'd call +P+ ammo. They focused on one shot takedowns, if it came to a gun fight. Their track record on the matter is well documented. The hot magnum rounds lend themselves well to those takedown, and even penetrated light body armor with little effort. Having your point man use a revolver also made him far more mobile and reactive than when using an SMG or carbine. But in all out firefights, I'd say it disadvantaged them.

In Europe, a new MR-73 is the price you'd expect to pay for a tuned S&W686. For that price, you get a better construction and a trigger from the factory which is easily as good as a tuned 686. Arguably better since it's easier to adjust.

I would however never say my MR-73 is better than a Korth. But it doesn't have to be. Korths are retardedly expensive race horses, whereas MR-73 are quite acceptably priced work horses.
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I would also say that I'd take my X-Five or Sphinx over the MR-73 into a gunfight. In a heart beat.

Pistols are faster to reload, pack plenty of punch, are easier to fire quickly (for me) and generally stoppages are quick to rectify.
When a revolver does go down, it's generally not a quick fix. The only revolver related stoppages I've experienced myself was bad fitting .357Mag ammo, which would set back once fired. The fired case would be pushed rearward and the case would expand in the cylinder, preventing it from being pushed back. The only thing you can do about that, is try to pry the case forward or wait until the case cools and it'll slip back on its own. Either way, you're out of the fight.
While I agree you should only get into the fight with tried and tested ammo, the thought of this happening would scare me to death.

The only big win for the revolver would obviously be penetration and energy transfer. .357Mag is simply a heavier & more powerful round than a 9x19mm. I personally would not find that to be most important however.
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>>30463447
>As your only gun...
how about a Tokarev or .45 super or with a 7" barrel, or a 10mm auto with a barrel swap to 9mm dillon?
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>>30461653
So you need an 8-shot revolver?
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>>30469253
What is the lemat revolver
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>>30468669
>Revolvers aren't more reliable.
Technically from a mechanical point of view they should be a lot more accurate than a semi.
Semi have tilting non-fixed barrels, sights that slide back and forth. While a revolver has more parts per say they're just mostly to move the cylinder and if the timing is right it should be a little more accurate than a semi.
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>>30469481
>non-fixed barrels
comparing that to non-chambered cartridges...
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>>30468762
sometimes people don't die right away when you shoot them. also sometimes you don't just have 1 or 2 guys to deal with.
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>>30458567
It's only over kill if you're a pussy
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>>30469310
Not what I was thinking of at all.
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>>30452618
Dude, Froot Loops are the shit. I'm buying a box right now
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>>30469949
Fuck you.
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They work just as well as officer's hip jewelry as any other handgun, assuming you're talking about a military context.
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>>30458567
>overkill
37. There is no ‘overkill.’ There is only ‘open fire’ and ‘I need to reload.’
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>>30468669
>>30469481
I think where revolvers really win out is in the case of a failure to fire, you just keep pulling the trigger. A lot of people who don't train often (and even those that do) may not instantly go for a tap-rack-bang when it does happen.
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Capacity. There's more room to fuck up with 6 shots. My 10mm Glock has 15 rounds and has plenty sufficient energy to handle whatever nogs come my way.
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>hurt durr revolvers are too slow hurr durr

http://youtu.be/lLk1v5bSFPw
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>>30457094
>>30457552
just pick up the casings, dumbshit
a gun's gonna leave residue anyway
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>>30467845
>b-but muh glock 20!!
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>>30471242
I think everything is too slow compared to Jerry.
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>>30469517
In my experience when people attack as a group most of them become bystanders and are ready to flee and leave their buddy behind.
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>>30471242
Jerry is superhuman in reguards to firearms. and he used a custom revolver so...he isnt fair to compare to anything.

Case in point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eHTsaCo03Q
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>>30469498
I'm not saying it's a fact, but when I was thinking about it if the cylinder chambers are timed correctly the revolver has more fixed parts that are in line and stable compared to a semi.
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>>30473958
My bad, wrong vid. this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXEK7rcqO-Y
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>>30457600

I'm fairly certain our armed forces shoot eachother quite frequently.
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>>30474032
It would show who wasn't willing to pull the trigger. I meant like for basic training
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>>30463514
>>30471396
>tfw use Cz-52 in 7.62x25
>tfw my casings act as a secondary projectile.
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>>30470162

They made those quaker products in hopes males would eat them and not get boners.
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>>30474398
Actually, that was Mr Kellog that pushed for Circumcision as a way to stop fapping.
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>>30468392
Read your entire post back to yourself out loud. Are you proud of what you posted?
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>>30452478
>revolvers
You might as well be sticking with a low cap mag 1911

give me my 17+ rounds
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>>30469145

>.45 super
>10mm auto with a barrel swap
>Brno 7.5 FK Field Pistol

There are semi-autos that could also qualify, but a revolver has the big advantage of not being unobtanium. A .357 can actually be pretty affordable to shoot, since you can practice with cheap .38 special.

A Tokarev is also not really even close to being in the same league, accuracy-wise.
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>>30474398
Hah, guess it worked like a charm! Assuming a delayed effect counts as charming. Okay, it's not that I never get boners, but I do not like fapping at all, unless maybe if I do it over and over until it hurts.
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