Apparently F/A-50 is shit. When will people ditch them for

>>30420091
>Waste of money
>Shit
Two different things there buddy.

>>30420091
The Kia of fighters.

>>30420091
The F/A-50 gives the Philippines the most powerful air force in the region, superior to the Flankers and F-16s in use by its neighbors.

>>30420148
kek what

>>30420148
you joke? Or you retard?

>>30420148
Yet it is shit, says Duterte.

I'd trust the words from flips' prez compared to some random people from the internet

>>30420200
This is the same Flip pres who thinks it's a good idea to not be a US ally anymore.

>>30420200
>>30420207

He's probably right on the grounds that 12 aircraft aren't going to accomplish a whole lot considering the force strength of their neighbours (one of which is fucking China)

>>30420155
>>30420177
>>30420200

Many Filipinos talk down about regional air forces as if this were so. They are very confident in the capabilities of the F/A-50, that would re-establish the air superiority that the PAF had in the 1970s with the F-8 and F-5

>>30420229
Thats hilarious.

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>>30420200
>>30420148
>Comparing armed trainers to Flankers and F-16s

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>>30420091
Chian here,

Duderte is olev.

I hope relationship can be normalized soon, so that we can offer them JF-17s as well.

As the only country taking an active political and military stance against China, many Filipinos regard the AFP as being second only to the JSDF and ADF in the Asia Pacific region, one of three on the same level as the West.

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>>30420229
Surely they can't be this delusional?
I mean you could come up with excuses like Chinese pilots are shit but at what point do 200+ Sino-Flankers and ~400 J-10s vs 12 F/A-50 trainers seem like an ezpz win.

>>30420207
And yet he's the prez instead of you

>>30420200
Duerte would rather have the US defend them than buy fighters, he never said F/A-50's were "shit".

>>30420276
Its not so much against China, but small countries like Taiwan, Malaysia, Vietnam and Indonesia which they consider themselves better. Of course, they also look down on China, but recognize it as a threat.

>>30420091
He's right

>>30420292
>but small countries like Taiwan, Malaysia, Vietnam and Indonesia which they consider themselves better

All of those countries, every single one, has a far better air force both in number and airframe capability.

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>>30420276
You shouldn't argue with the most powerful race on earth

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>>30420248
>many Filipinos regard the AFP as being second only to the JSDF

Then again, most powerful race.

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>>30420148
>>30420155
>>30420177
>>30420200
>>30420148
>>30420237
Well someone fell for bait

>>30420285
That doesn't say much, look at who the US is willing to elect, both this year and previous ones.

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>>30420311
>commandoes get rekt by ragtag peasant rebels with flip-flops
>most powerful race

http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=e52_1423575551

>>30420091
>F/A-50
Anon, that's not aircraft capable. Retard.
It's FA-50. There's a big difference between F/A and FA.

>>30420091
The Flips got what they paid for. A modern fixed wing low cost fighter/advanced trainer that has more capabilities than the F-5E but definitely ain't in the F-16 class. And that's okay. Traditionally, Failpenis issues has been internal/coutnerinsurgency against it's homegrown Commies (let's karaoke Internationale) or ragheads (is balut halal?). Manila relied on the US to deal with external threat and the US had the postings to do so ranging from Cavite back in the day; Sangley Point which closed down after Vietnam, and finally those wiley brown bastards told the round eyes to beat it so Uncle Sugar lowered the flags from Clark (the fucking volcano aside- the US could have easily rebuilt Crow Valley) and Subic.

>>30420372
*Aircraft carrier capable

>>30420370
pretty much america's independence from england

>>30420397
Yup. Philippines is american-tier in term of military

>>30420359
Name one negative thing about Trump

>>30420148

Dude, it's rude to bogart the bong. The FA-50 ain't much compared to the F-16s that the Singapore and Taiwanese have in numbers or the Su-27s that the Chinese generally have in zergrush numbers. And how many flying Hyundais Manila managed to scam? A dozen? Two? And w/o beyond visual range air to air. A complete lack of AEW or an integrated ground based radar network. Yeah keep thinking that shit and you will get fucked harder than a white girl at a pool party hosted by Mandingo and friends.

>>30420397
southern phlippines' independence when?

>>30420397
>>30420406
Both of you are completely retarded. SAF's position were compromised because there were in an area that was controlled by ABU SAYYAFF.

>>30420372
F/A doesn't refer to aircraft carrier capability..

>>30420426
It does in US terms, FA 50 is not equal to F/A 50 bro -_-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_F/A-18_Hornet

>>30420416
Since like after WWII.

>>30420448
>>30420416
ARMM region
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangsamoro_Islamic_Freedom_Fighters

>>30420438

F/A means Fighter/Attacker you cretin.

Its even in the godamn wini you linked

"designed as both a fighter and attack aircraft (hence the F/A designation)"

>>30420421
how doe sthe phillipines struggle with a fucking insurgency

Just roll over em with tanks and M113's..

>>30420461
F/A stands for
Fighter/Aircraft carrier capability
You cretin

>>30420438
F/A is an American designation for "fighter, attack". It has nothing to do with carriers other then the fact that the current us carrier fighter has that designation. No one is trying to claim the fa-50 is carrier capable or as capable as an f/a-18.

>>30420438
We're not talking about US fighter, you namefag wannabe.

If you're too poor to buy tripcode passes just be anonymous like the rest of us

>>30420472
Because "Guerella tactics"
Also, the Philippine government has "negotiations" with the Bangsamoro people (freaking retarded government, Bangsamoro peace process). You should look up Joseph estrada, he went All out war with them (Both NPA [commies] and the Terrorists in ARMM [or any other province controlled by them])

>>30420472
The brits had the most powerful military in the 18th century.

Didn't stop the american from winning

>>30420494
Oh damn,

>>30420475
So, why we use F-14 instead of F/A-14?

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>>30420475

Just no.

But thanks for namefagging, I can filter out your retardation

>>30420509
So deluded. Britain at the time was way far off being the most powerful military force at the time

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>>30420532
>>30420520
>>30420438

That was meant to be bait, but I forgot to stay anon.

>>30420540
Is this some kind of history revisionism?

>>30420540
But it isn't know, is it?
>GB can't keep the colonies
>GB got beaten by Washington, which was one of the worst Generals (research)

>>30420091
Humanity peaked with the F-14 anyway

>>30420475

You window licking fucktard. F/A or FA stands for fighter attack. Made popular in the late 70s early 80s as a twofer. Generally, a light type fighter w/ reasonable light attack capabilities. Not exactly good at either but good enough.

>>30420370
EXCEPT they weren't commandos, they call themselves commandos but they're really just swat, part of the police force.

>>30420472

Corruption and incompetence. The real reason why MILF, Abu Sayaf, NPA and whole plethora of motherfuckers haven't been made dead yet is because fighting a real war costs money and needs men of decently moral caliber/fairly honest fuckers willing to wage it no matter what the cost. That would mean the general officers,ministers, and a whole fuckton of bureaucrats would be out of a job since they can't steal, graft or bribe their way out. And the powers that be know that and won't equip the men necessary, plane the campaigns necessary or execute them in such a manner.

>>30420091
When M-346 get a radar and ability to engage Air to Air
>>30420292
Everyone in the region excluding Laos and Cambodia have a better air force than Philippians.

>>30420409
I think he's talking about Hillary, considering it was Obama the past two elections. There are Democrats who know she's a criminal but will still vote for her anyway.

>>30420091
>Apparently F/A-50 is shit.

Only thing that makes it shit for air forces is the fact that it's too capable for a advanced trainer. That might risk proper fighter fleet of said air force and prevent purchase of more capable fighters like Gripen or F-16.

>When will people ditch them for superior M-346?

Only superior thing in M-346 over T/TA/FA-50 is the fact that it's less capable and smaller political risk for air force.

>>30420155
>joke
>retard
Same op buddy

>>30420276
Phillipino invented jet.
What do you think?

>>30420409
He not phillipino!
Kek

>>30420342
>>30420547
>I was only pretending to be retarded!
ok kid.

>>30420245
Try again Chink, the moment Duterte sucks up to China is the day he gets removed from office.

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>>30420475
>Fighter/Aircraft carrier capability