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Duplicate thread. Actual new thread is >>30403188

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>>30403194

Wow dipshit. Great formatting.

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>>30403194
In

>>30403205
No, you fucked up the name.

>>30403194
I use PMC M193 in 5.56, got pretty good accuracy today that I will confirm tommorow.

PMC 55g .223 sucked asshole and I'm convinced that was an ammo issue. It also chronos at less than 2700fps out of a 16".

Used to plink with M855 but that was dumb so I'll save mine.

>>30403211
>meme tip

>>30403206
uh this is the correct way genius

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Those centurion rails are super aesthetic, but they're kind of bad.

Here's the picture anon wanted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZyxGOc4MP0

is steel jacket ammo bad for your gun?

>>30403228

I have degrees from Harvard. Don't fuck with me.

>>30403245
no

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>>30400210
In for gote decal. Still trying to decide what to put it on. Give me ideas.

>>30403245
Not enough to matter, no

>>30403230
>>30403144

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>>30403258
You still don't have an AR

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>>30403194
do you think she uses suppressors to masturbate?
556rc would be a bit small but a 30cal can...

also, xm193 is goat plinking ammo

>>30403230

Thanks boo. I'm thinking about the "dirt brown" color but I'm a little worried about it being too shiny.

>>30403277
Why hasn't this porno been made

>>30403258
oh shit my bad

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Posting to say thanks for the input on the paint job. It turned out pretty okay.

>>30403260
in the trash

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>>30403258
A college degree means nothing now

why do you guys ruin your guns with kindergarten paint jobs

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>>30403292
not sure, i'd watch it.

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>>30403312
No no, I asked where to put my sticker, not your rifle. :^)

>>30403326

>inb4 Giddy posts his crayola rifle 30 times

>>30403314
why are you so boring?
i bet you're the type of fag that buys a 3/4ton truck and never gets it dirty.

>>30403314
they make this magical thing that removes the paint for when you get tired of it.

>>30403333
lmao got em

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IN IN IN IN

GREEE
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EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEEE
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EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN!!!!!!!!!

>>30403305
good urban camo

>>30403326
Send me your suppressor and ill make it

>>30403342
>>30403333
he got you with quads, you should probably call the suicide hotline

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>>30403346
send me your ass and i'll cream it.

>>30403343

should've gone with a darker green for your upper and lower brah

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>>30403343
green acog when

>>30403350
im out of minutes ;_;

>>30403360
I would like it darker but it's from the factory so it's fine. Chicks like it.

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>>30403343
Green a best.

>>30403361

were you in the military?

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>>30403345
Shanks. I wasn't actually going for an urban look. It's just gray, tan, and brown with some local greenery to stencil with. I probably should have done it with a mag in the mag well since it's gotten sticky and my mag won't drop free, but I can probably sand it down.

>>30403361
>green acog when
No for a while. I want to get a FLIR monocle and/or a 4x4 utility quad, and the Acog does the job required so it's fine for now.

>>30403382
no he's not old enough yet

>>30403379
This guy knows. This guy here.

>>30403382
it's classified but he shot old binnies goat

>>30403382
why do you ask?

>>30403385
i feel ya

>>30403389
sure i am

>>30403399
>why do you ask

I'm in the government and I'm trying to track you down

>>30403399
not to be a veteran

>>30403415
im in the government, no need to track me down.

>>30403418
super secret 2 year contract

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>>30403206

>anon, why are you making me wear this

>oh god you're taking a picture?

>>30403313

>look mom, i posted it again

>>30403343

kermit pls

>>30403434
those are some nice show rifles, when are you going to take it outside and shoot it?

>>30403399
>i feel ya
That's not saying I won't drunkenly order one, but summer fun only has one more month and then it's time for hunting season preparations and the expenses that come with it. I may get a new autoloader shotgun too if funds permit.

This year it's
-goose
-duck
-maybe bear if I get a tag
-wood chicken/pheasant
-deer

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>>30403456

but i do.

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Warden and Sidekick in but those cock suckers in MN need to get the fuck back to work and send my SFMB
Finally replacing MBUS, ordered a Stolen Valor. What's a Gucci FSP?

>>30403458
take me hunting pls

>>30403434
What uppers are those? Also BCGs?

>>30403476
>What's a Gucci FSP?
matech

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What do yall think of all black ar with desert dirt color geissele rail? All black excelt the handguard

>>30403476
Mapul pro, DD fixed, KAC taupe (gucciest)

>>30403483
We're 2100 miles apart.

>>30403494
i think i have bigger tits than her.

>>30403494

i think you need to go to /fa/

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>>30403486

heres the parts for the top AR, pic related. bottom rifle's upper is all aero parts. cryptic in the top rifle, MI carpenter bolt in the bottom rifle.

>>30403502
;_;

>>30403506

We've seen your gear loadout so probably.

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>>30403526
i'm gonna post a pic anyway

>>30403511
How do you like the MRO? I need a 1x red dot for my new AR.

>>30403534

lol @ this dyel

>>30403534
Giddy, on the slim chance that's actually you I applaud you.

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>>30403515
You seem like an alright kid, so I would take you out. Even if we busted out on wood chicken or coon, we could hunt steel bowling pins.

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>>30403540

I like it a lot. its so damn light and great FOV

>>30403553

don't inflate his ego, manlets are already full of hot air

>>30403534
do more diddly's

>>30401658
>>30401681
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/612598_.html

someone else was making those carriers for colt and they stopped using them.

the C marking is rolled into place on "real" colt carriers.

yes i undersatnd the implications of calling that a fake carrier but it's exactly as i suspected. it's when colt tried to contract out to other companies because it was post sandy hook.

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>>30403564
is that your personal range? looks comfy

>>30403434
What

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>>30403434
Look Psi!

All fixed up and loctited!

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>>30403593

>LOOK MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN

AK owner, here, someone redpill me on the 5.56

Is it true it causes some real nasty cavitation?
Or does it just tumble through the body?
What's the deal?

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>>30403584

Ssa or ssa-e?

>>30403590
Did you go shooting in sultan today or what? I hit up my Darrington spot. Dirty as fuck. Shits going to get shut down, I know it. Feels fucking terrible man.

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>>30403632

you have to live with that trash not me

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>>30403640
"real" colt C markings are rolled

>>30403643
Do you want a light pull, or a lighter pull and slightly crisper break?

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>>30403590
Yea, it's a pistol range but almost everything is rifle rated so I can set it up out back for AR or milsurp rifle practice.

I eventually want a whole shooting gallery, so i buy a little every year to add to it. The Texas Star was this year's buy, polish plate rack hopefully next year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FNDCL6Bpqs

so I went to the gun range today and got a 100yd lane. I was trying to teach my mom to shoot at 20yds and the guy at the range got all mad because there is a "50yd minimum". My mom and I were taking turns. Then he tells us we have to put it to 50yd or go to the 25yd lanes.

faggot pissed me off

>>30403657
Whats so trash though? It is exactly the same thing.

>>30403666
How thick is the steel?

>>30403643
-e

>>30403644
nah not today, thats an old pic. i will probably go next Friday since i have it off. i fucking hate how people trash these places, i need to do some recon around sultan and find a spot to keep secret

>>30403666
kek them black guys. i want some land one day so i can make a comfy range. get a dueling tree next my man

>>30403672

>streamlight

>4 oclock instead of 1 oclock where god intended it

yeah, no, nothing wrong with it at all

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>>30403673
3/8 AR500. Figure non-magnum pistol at 10, rifle at 100. This Texas star is 3/8ths too. They also make a 22lr version.

You can buy angled rifle steel targets which you can safely engage at much closer ranges too.

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>>30403553
it is but i'm only 5'9" so it's basically cheating

>>30403576
?

>>30403639
I know you faggots can read, someone help me out here

>>30403702
Streamlight isn't Inforce. And this one is literally a brand new product that is hopefully PA AMD tier of budget but good.

>>30403702
Why not 11 oclock?

>>30403639

depends on the round, some yaw, some fragment

>>30403722

we dont tolerate hate speech here mister

>>30403725

surefire or kys

>>30403664
Both of them sound like they'll do the job, I'm not really looking to do precision shooting or 3 gun

>>30403736
My acog balances it out

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does anyone make taller flip up sights?
i want to co-witness with my lower 1/3 mount.

>>30403639
>>30403722
there are so many different types of ammo that it can do anything you want.
standard xm193 is a decent round that will fuck you up if it hits you and the fance ammo will do even more nasty stuff.

5.56 is pretty damn good.

>>30403194
What are some of the best looking keymod rail covers? I need some ideas.

>>30403730

thats fine too, if you're lefthanded. i wouldnt want my light pushing against me/my gear when wearing a sling.

>>30403745

no it makes it look out of place, like buying a bentley and putting poorfag aftermarket rims on it

>>30403639
It bruises your shoulder. Gives ptsd

>>30403706
Thanks homie

>>30403739
Then get the SSA. I have the Colt pin version, and it's great.

>>30403714
Deadlifts

>>30403765
>does anyone make taller flip up sights?
>i want to co-witness with my lower 1/3 mount.
I don't think so, but why would you want that?

>>30403767
noveske imo

>>30403771
kek

>>30403765
>>30403736
Thank you.

So longer range, will fuck you up bad, is lighter.

Should I sell my AK and get an AR? Or at least an AK in 5.45

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>>30403657
Reminds me of Kim Kelly

>>30403792
Keep 7.62 ak, build/buy ar in 5.56 and 5.45. More the merrier

I was looking at low end retail AR's, and ended up going with a S&W M&P Sport II.

After the fact, I was asking someone at a local fun store about why they wanted so much more for the M&P Regularz vs. Sport II version, and was told "Muh MilSpec", and chrome lined bore.

But the Sport II has a Melonite treated BBL, inside and out, which is supposed to be more bettah. Lower friction, no chipping, more durable, and higher Rockwell hardness.

The lower and upper on the Sport II are also made out of the same Aluminum alloy as the Regularz.

So once and for all, dispel the myth that it's not a bad fun, or tell me why the Regularz is better.

From what I've been seeing, a Melonite treated BBL is way better than chrome lining.

so for under $200. is ARP the barrel to get or is it BA Hanson?

>>30403823
BA Hanson

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>>30403361
I wish I could go hiking in the mountains of Afghanistan without risking my life. Maybe in a few decades.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=afghanistan%20mountains

It puts Colorado to shame.

>>30403434
Nice man. Are both yours?
What magazine is that?

>>30403534
Look thick. Solid. Tight. etc.

>>30403564
Cool picture.

>>30403657
Who is that?

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>>30403786
>Deadlifts
yeah, i need more weights, i can only go to 285 with my oly bar.

>>30403786
>but why would you want that?
i like using the rear sight in conjunction with the rds to get the dot really crisp for precise shooting/zeroing.

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We gonna #PaintThisGun this weekend.

#NoFlyNoCryStillBuy

How does it feel to know that we're all probably on a watch list now?

Gonna paint the handguard, upper, and lower with the green. Leave everything else as black accents. Gonna make sure to do this inside with no ventilation for maximum fun.

>>30403814
I'm not really a prepper but I figure it'd be best to stick with one rifle, and if the AR can put people down hard at a longer distance that's what I'd want.

I think the only advantage I'd have with my AK is I could beat someone to death with it, and I the rifle itself lasts longer.

Maybe more reliable in the field but the difference is pretty negligible afaik

>>30403840
>tfw 6'2

>tfw getting bigger but nowhere near that yet

IM GOING TO MAKE IT

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>>30403767
The Noveske ones are pretty sexy, followed by the BCM ones.

>>30403786
Thanks brev

$140 shipped for KAC Taupe a good deal?

>>30403643
MBT

>>30403639
Unlike 7.62 or 5.45, there is a hell of a lot of variety in ammo.

Some of the military loads cause a crapload of cavitation (m855a1, mk262, mk318) but are expensive. Some are inferior to 5.45's yaw but super cheap and decently effective out to ~200m (m193).

But, unlike the x39's, there is a large variety of not horribly expensive but good expanding softpoints (no, those no-name "softpoint" loads from Tula/Wolf/Barnaul do not actually reliably expand, they've all been tested). These leave horrific wounds and reliably expand out to ridiculous distances (500-700m depending on barrel length) while being very accurate, and start at 50cpr.

Then you have the total "range ammo" shit: M855 (despite its cost it sucks for killing things) and your generic 55/62gr FMJ's and OTM's.

So, the tl;dr version is:
>if you shoot 5.56 at living targets, if you're using anything that might maybe even think about doing anything other than EXPANDING (not fragmenting, not tumbling) you're doing it wrong
>because of this, it shits all over both x39's

>>30403851
just roid up if you're open to the idea.
i want to do it but it's too expensive and i'm afraid i'll fuck up and wake up dead.

>>30403840
You can make less weight work by pausing at certain parts of the movement, or by going slower.
It'll cause a little more hypertrophy that way too.
>i like using the rear sight in conjunction with the rds
You still can. The T2 shouldn't have much parallax at all.

>>30403866
np

>>30403851
You'll get there soon. Just work on your form, and the weight will go up.
Also try sumo if you have long femurs

>>30403867
>$140 shipped for KAC Taupe a good deal?
YES

>>30403870
Test is cheap. Start with that and MK677

>>30403841
Do stock, too

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>>30403910
I'll keep the stock black for now. If I decide to paint it I definitely can do that really easily after the fact.

>>30403868
Thanks anon.

I was fooling around with an AR at my lgs and it felt good. Made a fool out of myself when it came to that little bolt release button, and I thought I broke it when I pulled the bolt back and tried to push it forward, but when I figured it all out I enjoyed it. My only complaint was that it felt like a toy, but I'd probably get used to it

>>30403835

Ya both are mine, just finished the bottom one. Mags are $7 D&H from PSA. Great mags.

Grill is tori nonaka

are muzzle brakes worth it? do they decrease accuracy?

>>30403941
>are muzzle brakes worth it?
If you want recoil reduction.
>do they decrease accuracy?
They usually have no effect or improve accuracy

>>30403906
>You still can
yeah but i have how low the dot is, it's no big deal, i was just curious but there isn't so i'll stick to the pro.

>mk677
idk, i want to but at the same time i would hate myself if i did . not sure why i'm against using it but i am.
maybe one day.

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gonna zero my 10.3 tomorrow, tell me why i should zero at 50m and why not 25m.

>>30403955
*hate how low

>>30403927
No prob. I like both AR's and AK's, but if I had to fight with one or the other and could use something other than issued ammo (M855) it would be an AR hands-down.

At least in part because I'm confident in my ability to reliably hit man-sized targets out to 350m offhand or out to 500m from prone supported with it, I've never been able to shoot AK's that well (in part due to ammo, and in part due to dogshit-bad sights and an almost total lack of appropriate magnified optics)

>>30403965
Use your ballistic calculator to find out what 300 is.
It might be close to 25

>>30403955
It just helps recovery and muscle, tendon, and joint health.

>>30403965
Because with mk262 from a 10.3", a 50m zero will be closer to on at 150 than 200, and nowhere near on at 300 if you zero at 25.

>>30403982
Yea that's one disadvantage the AK has.

Alot of people think that just because you can get railed parts for almost all along the top of the rifle, that it's as good with sights as AR's though. But the dust cover moves alot, and the gas tube will melt your optics, so that leaves you with just the rail and I guess the rear sight block

>>30403965
with 50yd you are going to hit +/-2 inches from POA all the way out to 250yd

>>30403984
>It just helps recovery and muscle, tendon, and joint health.
i'll look into it

>>30403992
only using xm193 from the 10.3

>>30404027
it works best with test and roids

>>30404006
I mean, picatinny-topped side rails are a thing but those almost always put the optic up high enough you end up with (at best) a chinweld. Not conducive to consistent shooting even with a "good" optic, and the good combat optics have short enough eye relief to be an issue with side rails.

>>30404044
fuck it, i'm just gonna eat cookies and baconators and hope the animal hormones make it into my system.

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>>30403835
Not knowing who Tori is!? (it is excusable since she changes her hair color often)

I just almost finished (getting front sight and light soon) my first AR and decided I will post it to this Chinese tide watchers enthusiast forum.

R8 and H8 I guess.

>>30404073
Baconators are GOAT

I'm still in the "eat whatever the fuck you can" stage.

I'll probably start creatine and stuff too soonish

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>>30404088
6.7/10

I'm new to ARs and I'm looking for a good quality 4 sided rail and some flip up iron sights. Any advice?

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>>30403333
PTR stock. :^

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>>30404088
Nofrontsight/10

Looks ok otherwise.

>>30404107
DD RIS II FDE and KAC 600m USMC irons.

>>30404107
DD and mbus pro

>>30404107
Drop in or free float?

>>30404105
The ATF is going to love raiding your place. Why 6.7 may I ask.

>>30404120
I am getting a MBUS Pro soon.

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>>30404127
>>30404128

Thanks fellas.

>>30404136

I honestly don't know. I've always been more into handguns and then I was out shopping one day, felt an impulse to spend a bunch of money on a new gun, next thing I know I'm walking out of Cabela's with a Bushmaster QRC (pic related). Now I'm just looking to modify it more to my tastes, but the problem with that is that I don't know what my tastes are. This is actually my first rifle other than my obligatory nugget and a 10/22 my dad gave me when I was a kid.

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>>30403819

No opinions?

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>>30404107
pic

>>30403906
>I spoke too soon and was the other KAC FSP
Is $177 shipped for a Taupe a good deal haha
Why so many used stolen valors but no used 99051's

>>30404177

are you literally retarded? why do you post that gun 20 times a thread

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Get on my level.

>>30404181
The micro is used on all Marine A4's, while the taupe is sometimes used by SOF on the M4A1 and MK18

>>30404192
U 'mirin?

>>30404174
Do you have access to a dremel? I will try to help you unfuck that AR.

>>30404138
will be 7 when you get front sight and light. nothing wrong with it, its just basic ya feel.

>>30404217

What do you have in mind, anon?

>>30404192
this is my only joy in life.

>>30404236
You gotta cut off that delta ring and maybe cut off the bayonet lug. Using this hand guard will allow to get a free float without the hassle of removing the barrel and that damned FSB.

https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=422

>>30404181
>>30404213
Is $60 shipped a good deal on used condition stolen valor KAC 600m """surplus"""?

Alternative is """new""" KAC 600m """surplus""" for $50 but it's first time seller and seems shady

>>30404213
Good point, the Matech ones are too ugly for my tastes.
I swear Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance has fucked up my wallet by making me only want high quality (((expensive))) shit made w care and precision.

>>30404267
It's a fair price but not a good deal.

Lotsa Marines end up pocketing one or two a couple times a year and selling them, honestly they're probably safer to buy from than people that've sold hundreds since CID doesn't care about onesies and twosies.

>>30404267
Yea, pay the $60
trust me

>>30404270
>making me only want high quality
iktf

>>30404267
Got used one shipped for $53 today
There's a new one on ebay for $70 shipped

>>30404257

Is it really necessary to cut them off? Can I not just disassemble the rifle and take them off without destroying them?

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thoughts on this setup? it's p comfy

>>30404298
Yes, and that's the preferred method but requires tools.

Also, the taper pins on the gas block can be a REAL bitch.

>>30404308
no

>>30404314
why not

>>30404298
>Can I not just disassemble the rifle and take them off without destroying them?
You will never use them again. cutting them off is much easier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV6KexkDk-0

>>30404308
>A2 stock
ew

Rest looks comfy though.

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>>30404308
Psi will flame autism at you for not having a "perfect" light setup.

Looks usable as hell.

>>30404290
Fuck just bought the new one for 70 but the option to cancel the previous order is gone.

Will be hawking the used one for $50-55 soon.

>>30404308
Seems pretty mix and match

>>30404322
>A2 stock

>>30404328
>Looks usable as hell.
all my how

>>30404308
looks ok but the vfg looks too forward.

>>30404319
Are you 6'5"?
Also, please get a keymod or larue light mount

>>30404298
Also make sure you get the 12.5 inch hand guard.

>>30404342
nah its in the perfect comfy spot

>>30404352
larue light/acog mount are next

>>30404337
Well, for starters, the BCG is so shiny you'll blind your opponents! Thats awesome!

The custom dust cover WILL get you range attention for the ladies.

The A1 gear matches your personality, which is also A1 ;)

I'm drunk idk

Lots of Tripfags ITT.

Plox give opinion:

AR Platform:

>Chrome lined barrels

***as opposed to***

>Melonite treated barrels

>>30404257
I've been eyeballing this FF rail. Might just get it.

>>30404402
i like chrome but qpq seems like it's getting really popular

>>30404402
I've read somewhere that melonite is better for accuracy and barrel life.

>>30403670
you should have told him to fuck off

>>30404408
do it

>>30403670
Next time just throw a handful of brass at him when his back is turned. If he gets mad shoot him :^)

>>30403722
>>30403639
didn't reall all the other fags but let me simplify it for you since these tards dont really know how to do that.

5.56's effectiveness comes from its ability to fragment. The dirty little secret is that it wont fragment at longer distances (specifically velocities slower than a certain figure i.e. 2700fps)

thats pretty much it

i'm strictly speaking military rounds, i know how to cater to an ak fag, everything you guys do is military oriented. you dont really have as many non military ammo options as we do so i'm giving you a mil-centric explanation.

tl;dr mil ammo in the AR-15 relies on fragmentation to be the most effective. that fragmentation is based on speed of the round when it hits the target.

>>30404417
Accuracy potentially, barrel life not really.

It's a tradeoff between a surface treatment (no additional thickness/coating in bore) and a really fucking hard, fairly thick coating.

>>30404402
The problem with melonite is that we have no idea how it performs in the long run. It could last longer than chrome, it could not.

>>30404441
There are military rounds that fragment reliably down to very low FPS's

Mk262 for one, and provided Mk318 is what I think it is(An OTM 62g) then it should as well.

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Posting melonite.

>>30404444
>It's a tradeoff between a surface treatment (no additional thickness/coating in bore) and a really fucking hard, fairly thick coating.

Dunno, The melonite stuff changes the molecular structure of the chrome / moly the barrel is made of, at least to a certain depth. It isn't a coating, but not sure it wears off unless you've put elebenty thousands of rounds through it.

Chrome is a surface treatment.

>>30404518

Damn moneybags, way to make us all feel bad

>>30404534
QPQ is a surface treatment. It treats the surface of the barrel without adding anything (insert argument over how many ten-thousandths of an inch you have to go before it no longer counts as "surface", whatever).

Chrome is a lining. you are physically adding a layer.

You've literally got your shit backwards.

>>30403277
Does your can cast a big shadow being that far in front of your light?

my barrel is chrome and it isn't the best but it sure isn't a crapshoot

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>>30404547
Keke

Noob here, what low pro gas block with a rail would you recommend to me? I have moe hand guard, and am looking to put a flip up sight so i dont have to cowitness. thanks.

>>30404574
how much money ya got

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>>30404422
Don't tell me what to do.
>maybe next paycheck

>>30404551
>QPQ is a surface treatment. It treats the surface of the barrel without adding anything (insert argument over how many ten-thousandths of an inch you have to go before it no longer counts as "surface", whatever).
>Chrome is a lining. you are physically adding a layer.

And that's the question.

Treat the metal vs.coat of paint. I'm not judging between the two, just keeping the question alive.

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Found a work around for getting a precise dot, it's electrical take with a hole.

>>30403805
busy philips' character in that show was absolutely fucking bananas crazy. i fucking hate females like that.

How often do you guys clean your ARs?
I have a chrome lined Colt and was just wondering if it would be okay to leave the thing alone for a year before I get back to it. Would it have too much problems even if I coat it with a lot of oil?

>>30404554
yes

>>30404534
I've read melonite wears off much quicker than chrome, but that's just what I've read on the subject. Also, chrome affects accuracy while melonite doesn't.

>>30404669
>I've read melonite wears off much quicker than chrome, but that's just what I've read on the subject. Also, chrome affects accuracy while melonite doesn't.

Sauce, if you happen to have it.

>>30404459
the OTM non OTM distinction has nothing to do with it fragmenting.

the mk262 mod 0 vs mod 1 are the same design except for one KEY feature that drastically affects the ability of that round to fragment or not.

care to educate me and ak fag what it is?

>>30404518
>>30404572
i built your future rifle in gunstruction pal

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>>30404651

>>30404704
kek

the lead was cutest

>>30404690
Mod 1 is bonded.

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>>30404698
Tanks. I'm saving up

>>30404641
kek

>>30404654
It'll be okay if you clean it well after you leave it

>>30404402
I own ss, plain cmv, chromed and nitrided barrels.

The nitrided barrel is my favorite.

But that's also because it's just highspeed as fuck.

>>30404690
cannelure

>>30404715
Surplus jacket too

>>30404690
mod1 has the cannelure (77gr SMK w/ cannelure vs. 77gr Nosler or SMK w/o)

It fragments at the cannelure.

Most 5.56 bullets fragment at the cannelure.

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>>30404762
Pic

>>30404722
No.

Try again.

>>30404773
If not bonded then its the cannelure.

>>30404781
Bingo.

See >>30404764

>>30404794
Whats all the talk of Mk318 being marketed as Barrier blind ammo if it isn't bonded then.

So the marines also adopted a round that doesn't fragment via cannelure, and that also makes no fucking sense.

Time to drink more

>>30404120
How do you like that GDI mount?

>>30404852
Recoil did a study on returning to zero, and GDI was in the top 3. Over Larue btw

I was going to get a PSA upper/lower which would run around 500 bucks. I have an extra 100 bucks that I want to throw into it. What do I get /arg/?

>>30404878
ammo

>>30404822
Both mk318 and M855A1 have a cannelure.

mk318 has a solid gilding metal rear, only in front of the cannelure is lead-cored. It basically splits at the cannelure, the butt of the bullet penetrates while the lead-cored nose fragments.

>>30404683
Diff. Guy. Speaking to accuracy. Chrome lining adds material to the inside of the bore over all the grooves and landings which is why it is said to affect accuracy adversely. It changes the inner dimensions. Qpq is not a lining. It hardens to barrel. So a shitty barrel is still shitty, a decent barrel still decent, a good barrel still good, but very hard.

>>30404878
$25 more and an mbt

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Where do I mount my weapon light and pressure switch when I get it?

Never had one before. Don't know what the fuck I'm doing.

Also. My PA micro dot is on the way. How much more like John Wick am I gonna be?

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Lazy cell phone quality pic

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>>30404212

Most disgusting AR I've ever seen

>>30404876
was bobro first?

>>30404893
I have a little less than 5000 rounds which is enough for me.

>>30404920
mount it where you rest your finger. use zip ties or velcro

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>>30404894
well, I guess mk318 has a groove, not a cannelure.

They serve the same purpose. Pic related.

>>30404937
larue mbt don't eat dinner for two days

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>>30404117
I strongly considered it, but I've already scratched and beat up that thing enough in the short time I've had it. It deserves a break.

>>30404920
I like my pressure switch on the top rail but it really depends hold you hold the rifle.

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>>30404939
Mount the pressure switch where I rest my finger?

The kit I ordered has both zips and some double sided tape. Should the light be as far forward as possible? Should I worry about muzzle blast affecting it with my comp/brake?

>>30404952
I would certainly hope so, although I have seen videos of Mk318Mod0 failing to separate, or even expand at all for that matter going through ballistics gel. Obviously thats not optimal.

IMO Mk262 is still the better round, and M855A1 is probably the best .mil round out there.

I haven't seen any actual ballistics gel testing of Mk318Mod1 though, so that could be better.

You all think it would be dumb to sell off most of my collection and buy a few nice guns with it? Right now I have several very nice Noveske AR's which I love, a PTR for fun and a few other neat gums I just don't shoot anymore. I'm getting tired of trying to buy/ build a million guns though to try and fill every possible nich or interest. I dont like to have a bunch of unneccessary shit i cant nove around with me. Should I sell most of them and just build/ buy the .308 AR of my dreams and spend the rest on ammo/ accessories?

>>30404930
It used to have a carbon upper, as well as a non rail bayonet lug gas block

My buddy got 10 stripped lowers, what are good LPKs that don't have shitty triggers etc

>>30404935
I think it was

>>30404722
see this is why i know you're retarded and i've been calling you out on it the past few days kiddo. you need to stay in your lane.

>>30404979
I was under the impression the only thing they changed in mk318mod1 was the powder, it uses the same bullet.

>>30404969
Yes

>>30404979
>I haven't seen any actual ballistics gel testing of Mk318Mod1 though, so that could be better.
>same bullet
>better at fragmenting
stay in your lane kiddo.

>>30405001
The PSA one with no FCG.

Nodoby packages a non-shitty trigger with their LPK.
>nobody packages an AR-Gold, Guysnamedlee, or MBT with a LPK

>>30405001
ive heard DD LPK triggers are decent but you wont actually know until you try. anyway, thats only what ive heard on the internet so who knows

>>30405001
The LPKs without FCGs

>>30404729
cant wait to see it

>>30405001
>http://algdefense.com/complete-lower-parts-kit-with-qms-trigger-400.html

>>30404898
>Diff. Guy. Speaking to accuracy. Chrome lining adds material to the inside of the bore over all the grooves and landings which is why it is said to affect accuracy adversely. It changes the inner dimensions. Qpq is not a lining. It hardens to barrel. So a shitty barrel is still shitty, a decent barrel still decent, a good barrel still good, but very hard.

And, now we're back to my original shitpost:

You can buy a S&W M&P Beleebit for $800+, or you can buy an Sport II which is pretty much the same thing, minus some chrome, but plus Mennonite, with identical fucking receivers and the same barrel material, for hundreds less.

tl:dr: marketing.

If you want an AR, and that's what my original post is about, don't buy the hype. Do the research. You can get a fairly inexpensive, but not shit [polymer lower] AR for not a lot of bux.

That's your starter. Then, you move up. Do the research. It's not a snobby club, despite what some folks post in the AR Generals.

That's all.

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>>30405040
Same. Stolen valor otw. Hoping for a good Independence Day.

>>30403194
I want to cut down my barrel so that when I mount a suppressor its as close to the handguard as possible.

How much barrel would I need to leave past the handguard?
I'm getting a silencerco omega 762

>>30405012
>>30405022

What was this post about then?

>>30404690

This post indicated a different bullet design due to Mk318Mod1 having a cannelure, which would obviously lend itself better to increased fragmentation.

Now I'm being told that the two variants use the same projectile.

>>30405076
what kinda shoes are those? we same glock bros.

ets mags are meme tho

>>30404969
>Mount the pressure switch where I rest my finger?
yes, hold your rifle like you normally do and see where your thumb sits, put your pad there. if you got a good light you dont need to worry about the blast

>>30405058
Meh

>>30405085
>Now I'm being told that the two variants use the same projectile.
mk262 mod 0 and mod 1 have different projectiles dumbo. mod 0 is non cannelured, mod 1 has a cannelure. the cannelure is the KEY point in fragmentation

>>30405074
>plus Mennonite

Melonite. Fucking spell check.

>>30405109
mennonite barrels best barrels

>>30405122
>mennonite barrels best barrels

That's hard to argue with, tbqh

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>>30405076
Onitsuka tiger

>>30405108
See>>30405022


If you're going to shitpost at least do it right and team up with the other guy.

>>30405012
Also this, if one bullet is cannelured and the other isn't its not the same

>>30405079
That's a hard question. Usually, your barrel would need to be ~1.2" longer than your rail.
What rail do you have?

Hey guys, so I was wondering:

55gr = plinking, combat
62gr = combat
69gr/77gr = marksman duties

Is that right?

>>30405132
nigga we same shoes too? what the hell.

same future rail, same shoes, same gun. u r cool guy. i like u

>>30405145
depends on the twist of your barrel, so no not really

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Goddamn, I really need to clean the garbage off my counters.

>>30405026
Pretty sure I saw a lpk with a Geissele trigger on Brownells

>>30405133
are you fucking stupid?
mk262 mod0 / mod1
mk318 mod0 / mod1

like literally how stupid are you dan? you're reaching new levels. please give me something... are you drunk? throw somethin out there man.

>>30405131
Until you get one where the barrel ext cones loose and the barrel is garbage

>>30405154
start with that gun lmao

>>30405134
>>30405079
I meant 0.8", sorry

>>30405145
55 - Plinking, combat
62 - Plinking, combat
77 - Precision shooting, combat

>>30405154
Where did you get that AK5 style trigger guard?

>>30405145
kinda

77gr is also useful for short barrel work

>>30405145
See a lot of combat, do ya?

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>>30405164
Got eem

>>30405161
It does give me peice of mind that I'm drunk, my apologies, I read this post
>>30404690
As Mk318, which lead to me saying >>30404722
Which, if we're referring to Mk262 is obviously untrue.

>>30405172
Self defense is combat tBH

>>30405164
T4 SAVAGE

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>>30405169
That shit is RRA if I remember correctly.

>>30405164
thatsthejoke.gif

>>30405200
Further explanation.

I had assumed that Mk318 as a whole was barrier blind due to bonding, as my apparently retarded USMC infantry friend told me.

It is infact not bonded, but still "barrier blind" by design due to the solid brass base of the bullet.

>>30405203
See a lot of self defense, do ya?

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>>30405151
It's a good day.

>>30405085
You're mixing up mk262 and mk318. They're different rounds.

Mk262 has, through its various iterations, used 3 (and maybe 4) different bullets.
>pre-contract testing
Used 75gr Hornady and 77gr Nosler, neither with a cannelure
>mod0/undesignated
Used 77gr Nosler or 77gr SMK, neither with a cannelure
>mod1
Uses exclusively 77gr SMK with cannelure
>mod 2/mod2 provisional
Uses 70gr Tac-TX with brown tip, monolithic copper tipped hollowpoint, has grooves in the shank and doesn't fragment but is a purpose-built expanding bullet

Now, as far as I know, there are only 2 variants on the mk318
>mod0
62gr split-core (monolithic copper rear, lead-core front) hollowpoint loaded with ball powder with a traditional roll crimp and green sealant at the crimp
>mod1
same bullet but switched to a Hodgdon "extreme" extruded powder (some speculate it's CFE223), roll crimp, NO sealant

As far as I know the reason they did this was to reduce the temperature sensitivity of the round. Ball powders are normally pretty good, but the newer "extreme" extruded powders are supposed to differ by less than 3% across a very wide temperature range (-100*C to +100*C, which is ~neg148*F to 212*F). Now I don't believe that getting a round to literally the boiling point of water isn't going to drastically change its burn characteristics and I think those claims are exaggerated, but they are VERY good powders.

>>30405200
>>30405228
im glad you have something to blame, i was starting to think ur hella hella HELLA retarded

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fuck me, I really want a magnified optic (accupower) but i don't know if it's smart to spend 800+ bucks on an optic when I don't even have a car, opinions on the MRO i know giddy seems to like his

>>30405239
Well aware of this, just read something incorrectly.

>>30405239
>NO sealant
this i did not know about sost mod1... why did they go with this? roll crimp + sealant + powder change might cause an overpressure situation?

>>30405254
I like my car.

>>30405256
Probably redundant with how deep a groove they have to crimp into, or at least that'd be my guess.

Also keep in mind mod1 is still a provisional round, hasn't been finalized and they might add it later.

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>>30405232
ye

>>30405254
It depends. Do you need a car?

>>30405270
tru, thanks for the infos

Would this round have a cannelure?

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1339912049/black-hills-ammunition-556x45mm-nato-77-grain-sierra-matchking-hollow-point

Many refer to it as Mk262, but is it Mod0 or Mod1?

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>>30405267
>>30405275
Well technically i have a car I'm "borrowing" it from a family member, but its on a lease that ends later this year

>shit posting in it right now

>>30405302
It appears to have a cannelure, but it's not to mk262 spec. Black Hills doesn't crimp the primer pockets on non-contract loads and it'll probably be loaded a little cooler as a result.

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>>30405254
>cant afford car
>buys gun shit instead

You know what comes next.

>>30405134
Geissele mk8 13"

>>30405325
Well fug, anyways a good bonded round would probably be better for what I'm looking for.

Now I regret not getting the TA01NSN when B&H had them for $850.

>>30405317
Ever take it off any sweet jumps?

>>30405341
ill sell ya one for 800 senpai

>>30405334
What're you looking for?

That one you linked is very very good as an accuracy load and would do fairly well as a defensive load.

If you're after something bonded, I recommend Federal LE barrier blind (also sold as Fed Fusion MSR and Speer Gold Dot, exact same load with the exception the Gold Dot uses nickel plated brass, which is a waste).

It can occasionally be found as low as $0.50 a round and PSA almost always has it for $0.60/rd

>>30405325
i've read that Black hills stated that the only difference between mk262 mod1 and 77gr otm is the packaging.

i'll try to find it.

>>30405358
Was it you or qb who lives in the greater seattle area?

>>30405330
I think a 13.7" would work.
I don't know if your muzzle device is long enough to make 16" though.

>>30405317
What's that, an avalon?
dumb GPS placement btw

>>30405358
If you were local, I'd trade my tan ACOG for yours plus a few hundred doll hairs.

>>30405325
need proof of this, and a source to buy "legit" mk262 mod 1 if this is true.

>>30405151
Did you post you rifle or anything in case I see ya later?

>>30405382
RAV 4 and thats the best spot for a GPS

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>>30405391
this is the only picture of my rifle i've posted

>>30405385
My source on the non-crimped primer pockets is I have some and reload the brass.

As far as them being loaded cooler, it's just speculation on my part. A crimped primer should, in theory, allow them to load the rounds hotter before they have to worry about blowing out the primer. I've shot SOME real contract mk262 and the primers are flattened AF, a sign of high pressure, but wasn't able to keep the brass.

ALL US contract ammo has crimped primer pockets by DoD guidelines, including Federal law enforcement loads.

>>30405379
me senpai

>>30405382
>If you were local, I'd trade my tan ACOG for yours plus a few hundred doll hairs.
why you gotta tell me this ;_;

>>30405379
Qb lives in Michiganistan: like me.

>>30405363
Home defense ammunition for killing people as quickly as possible of course.

>>30405414
post a pic of an unfired 'uncrimped primer pocket' round if you can. of the primer of course...

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>>30405391
i've posted a pic of my shoes too kek

onitsuka best suka