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So my stepfather has started up a firearms company and is currently

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So my stepfather has started up a firearms company and is currently manufacturing ARs and suppressors for foreign contracts and the local sheriff's department. He's smalltime right now but has a ton of tooling. My question to you all is what are unique and interesting things (doesn't have to just be for an AR) that you would like to see on the market?
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Monitoring this thread to patent troll your stepfather.
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>>30339039
A .223/5.56 bolt action upper for AR-15s.
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>>30339079

Go for it bud, we do this for fun. Only got the 07 to get to play with fun stuff and you need clients to make that fun stuff.
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>>30339094
take the gas tube out. done.
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>>30339112
I want turn-bolt, not straight pull.
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>>30339094

Any reason you'd want that over an AR without a gas system?
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I kind of want to see a bolt action carbine chambered in a handgun round. People have done this to mausers from time to time, but something that isn't a chop-job would be kind of neat.
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>>30339039
can you make me an integrally suppressed AR/10-22/22-45 barrel?
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>>30339039
A carbine that shoots 10mm

Something that shoots 7.62 x 54r or 30 06 in semi auto with at least a 25 round mag
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>>30339186
Fucking this.
If he makes an ar carbine that takes 10mm glock mags, hes in bidness
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a hakim in something other than mauser cartridges.
pancor jackhammer
a functional calico.
the AAI ACR.
HK CAWS
simmilar crazy cold war and 80's guns.

a polymer pistol so cheap that instead of buying extra mags, I can just buy extra pistols.
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>>30339039
retro lower receivers, preferably no fence but partial fence is fine too.

i know NDS makes them, but their availability is extremely spotty and their prices are shit. $160 for a receiver? suck a dick.
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>>30339142
This, I want a 14.5" Enfield with pinned/welded brake in .45ACP
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>>30339039
Remington m53 reproduction.
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>>30339039
pistol caliber AR's & AK's that dont cost 1500

a ruger markiii in 9mm

and all metal construction glock 80% lower

titanium ar upper, lower, parts kit, bcg, gas tube, that are case hardened and engraved.

a semiauto .410 handgun

45-70 hangun


something like the surefire warden that wont end up costing over $300

custom ar-15 lower engraving services.
>i send you image, you engrave on blank lower, send to my ffl.
>you should already have blanks


all i got for now lol some of this is just wild bs.
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Why do people want rifles in not-rifle calibers? That sounds stupid to me
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semi auto version of stoner 63. yes theres the robinson arms m96, but they arent made any more and robarms sucks ass
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Work with Sig to be able to make copies of the SG 542
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>>30339213

OP here, that's actually a pretty good idea.
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>>30339261
MKIII in 9mm. Next level shit
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>>30339213
>http://www.quartercircle10.com/product/glock-large-frame-lower/
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>>30339127
I could make up reasons like simpler mechanism, fewer moving parts (maybe), legal more places. But really I just think it would be neat.
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>>30339263
ammo interchangeability/consolidation, magazine interchangeability (usually), cheaper ammo, more accurate than pistols due to stock, good candidates for SBRs without large losses on ballistic performance, and greater muzzle velocity than pistols.
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>>30339286

11/10 would fucking buy.
Pic wholly unrelated.
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To have it come with a modified Muzzlebrake and Extended Clip.
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>>30339142
That actually seems pretty neat.
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>>30339094
they would shit with joy in the northeast for that.
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>>30339039
What state?
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>>30339286
Yeah honestly thats the best idea youll get here.

Im not sure what capacity 10mm glock mags have but dont make it a low cap gimp.

I think 10mm fits in 45acp mags universally but not sure
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>>30339363
>I think 10mm fits in 45acp mags universally but not sure
if this is true then you could use the Kriss extend-o-sleeves.
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>>30339217
oooo, thanks for reminding me of them, i was thinking about building a retro special snowflake rifle.

>not him btw
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>>30339301
r-really? you think so?

i did something good today?
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>>30339389
good luck getting one. maybe in half a year.
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>>30339360

A free one, not like we even have retail distribution for anyone to look up, but I'd like to keep some anonymity. And before I get anyone's hopes up too much we have an engineer who's a partner that does our design work and since this is a hobby for all of us we're pretty much restricted to what he's interested in which is evil black rifles.
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>>30339363
>>30339373
hmmmm
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Make copies of MGS V fake-guns.
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>>30339303
>out of stock
my suggestion still hold weight, mofucka
>>30339286
10mm silencers. 10mm fanboys are stuck using .45 cans, if your stepdad can cater to that crowd....
You owe me a 5 year 10% royalty and a free product example
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>>30339406
fml...

>hey we make this super kick ass repro kit
>2-3 batches a year


wtf are you doing the rest of the year ya cucks??
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>>30339303
>>30339426
>>30339363
>>30339373
>>30339326
>>30339286
>>30339213
>>30339186
does anyone even make a 10mm ar-15 barrel?

lol gl fining a barrel or bcg....
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>>30339448
They make 40S&W barrels and bolts. You'd just have to ream the chamber.
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>>30339326
pic got my sides in space senpai.
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>>30339416
Its either .40 or .45 mags that 10mm can be used in
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>>30339426

Hah, if you see them hit the market then get in touch.
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>>30339461

Yup, I'm thinking that's the best idea pitched so far, especially because it's something we could market. If we go that way then a suppressor would definitely be the next logical step.
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>>30339039
M16A1 clones that are proper and not these abortions niggers are putting out. You can compete with colt and Troy and if your price is right it won't even be a competition. Also modern Lugers and c96.
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>>30339448
>>30339461
I read it on some forum that (maybe qc10) was experimenting with a 10mm at carbine. They made it gas operated though, the general consensus from the forum was that 10mm too hot for simple blowback and even that it will work that way you were on the hairy edge of safety.
>Probably ar15.com
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>>30339805
That's all for the engineer to figure out. The concept is solid though.
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Makes the 10mm carbine gas operated roller lock like a ptr
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You're not the first person coming to /k/ wanting people's wish lists and you won't be the last who'll never bring anything to market either.
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>>30339648
Cool, now buy me some wolff spare mag springs. Daddy needs backups
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>>30339039
Make a C96 in a modern cartridge.
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>>30339844
Oh I don't disagree with the concept. Merely meant to impart that it's probably not as simple as find a mag that fits and ream out a 40sw chamber
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>>30339862
fuck this guy, there needs to be more companies willing to branch out beyond the boring, basic bitch, bullshit, boutique ARs,1911s, and glock clones.

I'm this guy,
>>30339426
>>30339360
>>30339213

if youre serious about this shit, hmu with a company name, zip/state, and a contact. i have working designs in progress, and I honestly dont want anything besides a product, professional reference, and credit.

[email protected]

(you)>>30339039
>>30339286
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>>30339862

You're absolutely right, we may never be able to bring some of this stuff to market, but we're only interested in doing things no-one else is and if any of this does make it to market then you guys will benefit
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>>30339039
A Famas.
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>>30339980

Email sent
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>>30339258
Probably the only good idea in the thread, amongst shit that already exists or wouldn't work and thus hasn't been done.

I would like to see the Remington 600 again,but in a few new flavor like 6.5grendel and 5.7x28. Options for both are pretty damn limited. Pretty sad the savage m25 cant feed from Five-seveN mags
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>>30339980
>fuck this guy, there needs to be more companies willing to branch out beyond the boring, basic bitch, bullshit, boutique
ARs,1911s, and glock clones.


Aw, you mad? Where's the guy who was going to make a bunch of vintage stuff? Or 80% stuff? I'd love a new production AR-180 or a Krag-Jorgensen carbine in .30-30 but I'm being realistic in that it'll never come from someone posting on /k/, looking for ideas.
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Side mounted scope mounts for muh fudd gun with tighter tolerances than standard commie mounts. It's too damn difficult to force the ak bracket onto modern rifles.
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>>30340396

Hey I'm being honest here, the most likey scenario is that we continue making ARs and suppressors for LE and odds and ends for ourselves. I've got one trigger idea for the civilian market that we're going to try selling and if I can find something else that we can profitably produce that no one else is then it's a win/win. The projects you're referencing seem like they were biting off a lot more than they could chew.
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>>30339142
Don't ruger make bolt guns in 44mag? Or is that too big for what you imagined?
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>>30339112
>>30339094
>removes gas tube for straight pull goodness.
>gas block... doesn't.

If it were something kinda like the new Ruger Precision Rifle just as an upper, that could be pretty sweet.

Pic 1/? A single shot lower?
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>>30340515
nigger, what's wrong with the retro lowers i suggested? the only other place that offers them runs such small batches that they never have any stock and just fill back orders.

even if you don't have the forgings for retro lowers you could just reprofile a2 forgings.
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>>30340396
not mad, frustrated with the industry and its track record for just pumping out cookie cutter crap. have you heard of the robinson arms XCR? probably not because it doesnt take magpul furniture, the bushmaster ACR failed hard on the civvie market b/c they fucked up on the follow through and overlooked simple design queues that could have made it a real SCAR competitor. shit, it just occured to me that they could have partnered with Steyr and shared the barrel system with their AUG
Sig is the only big company even trying to do something different with their shit, HK just changed the shape of the usp serie, called it the VP(x) and threw it at hollywood
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>>30340538
2/?
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>>30340545

That should be easy for us to do too, I'll have to see what goes into the finishing. At the least we could do a small production run and see what the demand is.
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>>30339142
straight pull bolt action pistol caliber rifle/carbine/pistol variants with a threaded muzzle, folding stock and popular mags


that would actually be really sweet
legally speaking and niche market speaking
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>>30340546

I really like what Sig is doing pushing the envelope, that's what the trigger system we're producing will be doing it's looking like we may be too late to the game at this point though and we're still tied up with ATF approval.
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>>30340569
3/? Never reload at the range again.
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>>30340590
4/4
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>>30340396
ALSO
VIntage repros would take too much effort for recalibrating machinery, and consumers would just complain that 'muh fit-n-finish' just aint tha same.
the neoAR180's are the serbu 15 or 16 upper, sig's mcx, and a couple other things, I'm honestly surprised Armalite hasent tried to bring back the 180 though. nobody is gonna bring back anything in chambered in 30-30, its rimmed, and its old. fuck it. 30-06 though...
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>>30339261
>>30339301
>>30339402
not really doable since a straight blowback 9mm action would need to be far too heavy to fit into a mark III receiver

that's one reason why almost all 9mm pistols are using a tilting barrel to suck up recoil
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>>30339906
like 9mm ?
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>>30340618
not him, but 357 sig
fuck it im trippin
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>>30339186

>7.62x54r

NOT A FUCKING PISTOL THOUGH. DONT END SURPLUS AMMO.
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>>30340625
.357sig when there are 7,63 C96s anyway

IF you are doing a repro/redesign/strenghtening then make it a 9x25 Dillon
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>>30340599
FG42 style AR upper

nice
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>>30340673
ammo availibility though m8
you can ream a 357 sig chamber for the Dillon. then have a 10mm option fuck 45acp ;^]
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>>30340685
a 357magnum AR would be kinda nice too

i know it's rather shitty with the rim, but THAT would open up a market full of ammo


(or a lever action AR with the lever connected only to the upper pushing a locked bolt)
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>>30339039
A 1/2 Sale M1903A3 in 30 Carbine
or an AR in 30 Carbine
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>>30340708
*Scale
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>>30340601
do updates on vintage guns.
like the new BAR, that shitty remmington handgun that immediately got recalled.

except make them good, not spotty qc chunks of shit.
Auto 5's, lugers, broomhandles, remington model 8 clone, leverguns, ppk, anything on forgotten weapons.
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>>30339039
Monolithic 80% FNH SCAR uppers in M-LOK and Keymod format.
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>>30340706
no. go big or go home, .500 s&w and it being only semi rimmed should make it feed easier
what we REALLY need is someone to make a case forming machine capable of easily changing dimensions so weirder calibers arent so goddamn stupid 3 bucks a round expensive. unless its a false scarcity, in which case, its probably Freedom gropu's fault. fuck you, freedom group. again.
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>>30340737
a 10mm C96 would be sweet indeed
would buy
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>>30339039
Also FNH SCAR 17 variant uppers that run AR lowers direct fit for AR 15 and AR 10.
Or modular Mag well AR lowers that can have the mag section swapped to transition between AR 10/308 and AR15 uppers
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>>30340755
doesn't Colt make such an AR10/15 platform?
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>>30340737
hey, I'm all for it, but churning out mossy 500 actions and 870, and ar15/10 308w/e are so easy that companies are just like 'hurr durr it keeps selling durr lets keep making the same boring shit and slap some realtree cerakoteTM on it' and people buy it because the only other options are too fucking expensive with 0 aftermarket
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>>30340760
901 series
308ar(maybe ar10) takes any ar15 upper, but only their specific full pwr rifle cal upper. its breddy neat
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OOH OOH A LONG STROKE PISTON KIT FOR AR10/15
Include adapter for adjustable gas blocks, piston guide tube, short-ish length piston key/action rod for bolt carrier, pistons that slip onto the end of the piston key/action rod

Similar design to the PWS (primary weapons systems) long stroke piston system but a kit that can be installed onto any AR.
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>>30339261
45-70, chill out gorilla wrists...
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>>30340760
No idea, I'm thinking simply that I'd love to be able to buy a SCAR 17 upper and slap it onto an AR lower.
I prefer the FNH gas piston system much more than any piston retrofit, plus I've got a major hard on for the ambidextrous-ness of the SCAR upper.
The upper receiver of the FNH SCAR is the only part you can't buy on its own. You can buy literally every other component.
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>>30340873
because you suck, and they hate you


or wait.... nah that's a different company
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>>30339273
So. Much. This.
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>>30339186
The HCAR is a semi auto .30-06 and comes with 30 rounders.
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personally I'd like a Winchester 1895 Russian 7.62x54R 1:1 repro
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>>30340795
That makes me moist
I really wishould the AR platform had slot style barrel assemblies that allow for quick change of barrels on a single upper.
Like being able to swap the barrel and bolt or BCG and the mag-well and have gone from 5.56NATO to 7.62NATO in 5 minutes or less and not have to re-do headspace and timing.
Kinda like the ARAK 21 and Late gen SCAR where you pull 2 pins to swap the barrel and swap the bolt and you're good to hook. Slap in a SCAR 16 mag and rock small caliber from using 308 a few minutes prior all with hands and maybe a punch.
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>>30340898
Forgot pic.
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>>30340908
aren't there like 3 companies each SHOT show that present such a system ?
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>>30339473
It ain't .40
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>>30340879
Lol, and if it's a change that allows for an AR15/10 lower receiver and mags to literally mate right up with no other adapting parts then it's technically a new upper that FNH cannot legally come after you guys for.
Especially if it's an 80% where you've gotta machine out the ejector port, barrel vent ports, and a few bolt holes and tap them and the take down pin holes.
80% that they can't do shit about. And I can tell you I'd buy the shit out of it.
Especially if you guys made an adapter to mate an AR barrel to the FNH SCAR upper as its not a thread in upper but a Trunon that uses a pair of pins to mate them together for quicker barrel replacement and caliber change...
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>>30340879
>>30340924
Also would be significantly cheaper that way and more friendly.
Instead of $1000+ on a barrel assembly and $500 for a semi lower, and not even being able to purchase a SCAR upper....
>>30340913
I haven't seen it, I'll look up shot show 16 on YouTube but so far the only stuff I know about is SCAR lowers that adapt the AR pistol grip and magazines. No uppers for SCAR at all
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>>30340599
This, but in 54r and/or .308. Ideally it wouldn't require proprietary mags, but the ability to go from 5.56 to .30 cal would be it worth it.
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Make a literal shitload of these: Hamilton No. 7 bicycle rifles.

They were chambered in .22lr, and were made almost exclusively out of cast aluminum, steel rod, and brass, all of which was then nickel plated.

Shorten the firing pin to 2" and replace the rest of the length with barrel, and you'll have a 16.5" barrel. Use 3/8" steel rod bent on a mandrel to make the stocks and the barrel support, and use .22 barrel liners as the barrels (totally doable if you make a billet steel breech/chamber portion, that'll handle the real pressure problems).

Stamped steel sights, cheap as shit packaging and minimal shit to go wrong would make this an interesting firearm to bring to market.

If you could find a fast ass way to make these and sell em for $59.99 or something, they'd be killer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlWamNCUZIc

The only cheaper gun to make would maybe be a Hamilton Model 27, which I can tell you more about if you want...
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non reciprocating side charging ar-15 uppers in 5.56mm
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>>30340988
Also this. In either caliber. Piston please, PWS style piston retrofit kits with non reciprocating Ambi charging handle (top mount akin to the scar charging slot
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>>30339039
I want a lower receiver that will let me remove the ping pong paddle without requiring tools so I can shoot 9mm or .223 quick change
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make an MP412 REX ripoff and sell the fuck out of it
>probably on the simpler side of the things suggested in this thread/actually doable
>will be the only .357 magnum break-action revolver that is modern on the market
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>>30340981
Want.
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>>30340913
Yup can't find anything on a scar upper at all for shot show.
There's new handguards/rails and lowers, nothing about uppers tho
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>>30341021
I don't care how much this would be. I'd pay for it.
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>>30339039
i'd want to see borchardt c-93's produced in .380, .32, and 9mm
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>>30341021
I need a magnum caliber break action revolver in my life.
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>>30339094
>AR10 and AR15, turn bolt action upper that is hammer fired
>The turn bolt just locks the bolt in place
>Takes regular AR barrels, just plug the porting with special gas block
>What ever special snowflake handguard, upper, barrel, iron sights, trigger you want
>Poor mans but stronger Ruger Precision
>Don't have to worry about FFL shit since you're making straight uppers

I shit you not, money would be pooring in.

It'd essential
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>>30339142
guessing you wouldn't count .45 Colt as a handgun round then, since there's tons of bolt action carbines in that
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>>30341021
do this OP do this holy shit
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>>30339039
An AR 15 with the reliability of an AK47.
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Make a good 4 inch barrel revolver. Blued metal, wood grips, useable sights, 6 shot .357/.38. Chop 2 inches off the barbell for cc. Sell a shitload.
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>>30339286
if you can sell in in canada people will shit briques
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>>30339039
a 300 blackout conversion kit for a plr16
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>>30341021
DO IT
O

I
T
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>>30339039
A modified AR pistol grip and trigger that extends to the left or right instead of straight down. Just to fuck with states like mine (MA) that call pistol grips an assault feature. God I had them so much.
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>>30339261
PSA just destroyed the 9mm AR game. Lower was less than $200, all said and done, BCG was 150, used a stripped upper i had and a $100 barrel I bought with a $20 eBay handguard (will replace with nice eventually). $100 for some fixed HK sights.

$550 for a basic bitch shootable AR pistol. I'm at more than that because of NFA stuff.

>have not shot it yet because I'm waiting for my 9mm to show up
>hope it works as 9mm ars are finicky
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A side loading 9mm openbolt upper that ejects out the bottom
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>>30340981
meh the little badger already did the minimalist shtick and folds to boot
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>>30340965
This has been my dream for years. Why not sr25
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Barrel sleeves for VZ61 Skorpions with a threaded end that can be installed with minor GU smithing.... The barrel is too thin to thread.
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>>30340981
tell me more
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>>30339039
An AR upper that takes 7.62 AK magazines from the side or top and ejects out the magazine well.

The SKS in different calibers. (5.56/.223, 5.45, .300 Blk) Also make it integrally suppressed.

An clip-fed semi auto handgun. (Yes, clip. Think Steyr M1912. But modern.)

A cheap semi auto rifle that takes P90 magazines.

A pump action double barrel O/U shotgun.
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>>30344008
>pump action
>O/U

how the shit would you even feed the top barrel
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>>30344037
You take a double barrel pump action and turn it sideways.
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>>30339142
Destroyer carbine
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>>30343744
So a shittier version of an AR 15. Great fucking idea.
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>>30343684

Well we're already an 07 with a title II SOT which is the whole reason my stepdad was brought into this in the first place so that's not a problem. I'm really struggling to understand why people would want a turnbolt instead of a straight pull, it's also not something we could market to government contracts which currently are our only source of income. Anything that we make strictly for the civilian market would have to have relatively low R&D costs which a turnbolt wouldn't.
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>>30343860
and it's crap, frankly. And it's much too expensive, and hard to find.

If one could make a gun that retails at $49.99, you'd more than HALVE the price of the Chiappa. You'd also be selling the worlds cheapest new firearm.

>>30343896
The Model 27 was the cheapest rifle available in America in the 1930's. A stamped steel and wood firearm, it was a simple, functional, and cute firearm, it was purchased and used by boys of all ages for a long time.

It also was so cheap that it was used as a "prize" for farmers: in every twenty 100lb bags of chicken feed, there was a chance you'd get a Hamilton Model 27 in the bottom.

http://www.nrvoutdoors.com/HAMILTON/HAMILTON%2027.htm

But if you want to see how dam simple this thing is, look at the picture: you have four major components in the receiver besides the almost solid piece of a bolt: the one pece trigger, the one piece hammer, the spring that serves them both, and the ejector/locking bar assembly.

Beef up the design where it needs to be, and you'd have a hell of a
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>>30339039
Possibly not unique, but at least rare:

10mm AR.
.45 AR.
7.62x25 AR.
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>>30343843
>>hope it works as 9mm ars are finicky
not particularly
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>>30339039
>Vz58's
(literally impossible to get in my area unless I were to somehow manage to actually purchase a Czechpoint before they sell out)
>C96
>Borchardt c-93


Literally the 3 things I want to add to my collection (not for muh collectors's val-you, but just for fun shooting) but can't find any for a decent price

Guy at a local gunshow last weekend had a vz2008 that he fucking spray-painted black selling for $800 cuz its "tactical"
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>>30339039
Pederson device dropin for common boltguns
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I'd like to see a modern K31 type hunting rifle chambered in .308. 7.5x55 Swiss is almost 7.62x51mm already, so it can be done.
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20 gauge revolver with a 7in barrel and like a sort of Sig brace or one of those weird UK legal handgun lengtheners, or to be honest just a piece of metal to fit the curvature of an arm with some Velcro straps. Instant outdoors and backwoods hit for animals and hunting, just keep the OAL long enough to be a firearm and not a shotgun and the barrel length won't matter
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>>30339039
LITERALLY THE WIFE SON
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>>30339039
Quickloader for a wheel gun that can be used multiple times.
Twist one time and the next set of rounds cycles down via spring to take its place. Had an idea for one of these a while back, but could never get it to work right because I'm not an engineer.
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>>30339261
>a ruger markiii in 9mm
A Ruger Luger?
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>>30339039

Magazines for hard to find weapons.

One I own: Steyr GB. It's a stamped magazine, would not be hard to replicate, but current factory magazines go for $100-200 apiece and are hard to find.

If someone made a reproduction magazine and they worked, I'd happily pay $35-50 per.

Also hi cap glock 10mm mags so i can stop converting G21 magazines.
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>>30340396
>new production AR-180
Real talk, new production AR-180 uppers would be THE SHIT

Nodak Spud already makes lowers and part kits.

Last I heard there was someone working on them, but the biggest problem was figuring out the black witchcraft that allowed Armalite to fix the barrel extension in the receiver cheaply
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>>30343880
Sr25 mags would be perfect for the .308 variant. The 54r would be the one with the proprietary mags, unless it cold be engineered to take vepr mags or something.
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>>30339039
A semi automatic rifle chambered in .44 or.357 magnum just for shits and giggles. And make sure it gets mags with decent capacity, unlike the Ruger Deerfield Carbine
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