AR Thread / AR General /arg/

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Don't buy federal.

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>tfw almost first
Is the Aero Precision AC-15 a good rifle for the price range? Also, can anyone recommend me a good optic for a reasonable price?

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>trigger and LPK arrived in town at 1am this morning
>UPS won't deliver them until Monday anyway

Fuck UPS.

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>>30324330

So, now that my upper is done, it's time to do something about this basic bitch lower.

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Trying out those Daniel Defense mags. Solid as fuck so far. And dat 32 round capacity.

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Gf wants to go shooting soon. Need to stock up on ammo and stuff, meh.

>>30324365
Yes, Aero makes decent/good stuff. For optics, check out Aimpoint or knockoffs (Vortex, Primary Arms) but know that you get what you pay for.

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>>30324383

>>30324330
I love AR's, they're small enough to conceal, but the firing power and mag size make them one of the best weapons next to AKs.

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>>30324330
Finally removed the eotech covers that it came with when I got it. To bad my Vortex Strike Eagle will be here monday along with the AD Mount.
Also have a magpul handstop, MBUS pro front sight, stolen valor rear sight, magpul hand stop, QD end plate, QD rail attachment, and MS4 sling getting here monday. Am very excite. Last thing I need is a flash light

>>30324368
UPS have cucked me more times than I can even count

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>>30324330
mmmmmmmmm, chocolate suppressor

>>30323238
>>30323210
>>30323117
>tfw i got mine on armslist for $250 and in great shape
>i was gonna sell it
>i was gonna make a bit of profit
instead, i built this upper and not am going to buy a t2 for it.

god damn it.

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i haven't been out shooting in 2 weeks

my range is overgrown and needs work

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how important is concussion blast? no idea what i should get for in a muzzle device.

>>30324392
>>30324383
What upper receiver is that?

>>30324339
>mass production
>constant flow of precision movement
>wonders why every now and then something does not fall into place 100% of the time

Image your headspacing being off. Kind of like that. Shit happens. Another example is of all sperm used, your cell made it through. Congrats.

>>30324427

Gibbz

>>30324368
i hope they bring you a new grip and stock too lmao

>>30324387
Your rifle has me considering a 10" KMR over a 13", that looks great.

>>30324429
Federal xm193 is consistently shitty.

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>>30324339
I've bought nearly 3k rounds of their red box 55gr and never had any issues

>>30324423
but you were supposed to shoot that brown bear today

>>30324470
yeah well i woke up late and a new pc case and some keybaord parts arrived

>>30324453
Back when the ATF was considering a ban on the green tipped wonder boolits, you knuckleheads spouted that XM193 was superior. Now fast forward to today.... >consistently shitty

I hope your platform does get banned. At that point no ammo will be worth buying.

>>30324470
but you were supposed to shoot that cbc a month ago.

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>>30324392
That is a sexy rifle

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>>30324482
what case

>>30324489
ya got me. new upper soon

>>30324485
M193 is superior it's just that Federal has shit quality control.

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>>30324368
>That stock

You have fucked up son

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Here comes the ugly.

>>30324499
fractal r5

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>>30324524
get the fuck off my board

>>30324447

Is that a 10" rail? It looks like a 13" rail on a 16" barrel to me.

>>30324530
nice, i like it. i need a new one, the one i have has annoying ass lights on it.

>>30324392

Looks like something out of Mass Effect. Far too smooth for that Halo aesthetic. Really nice.

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>>30324518
i have that same glass but with no logo

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>>30324538
Make me. :^

>>30324490

Thanks, yours looks pretty nice too.

>>30324556

Wasn't going for that necessarily, but Mass Effect is one of my favorite series, so that's something.

>>30324392
What optic+handguard?

Guys, I'm feeling the itch. I want to build, but I can't tell if I want to build an M16(A1) clone or go the full-retard route and try my hand at an AR-10.

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>>30324518
Can you tell me what that insignia on the shot glass is? My grandpa briefly wore that patch during WWII, but he mostly wore 1st Allied Airborne Army, then 17th Airborne Division, patches.

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>>30324574
Thank you, just need my hand stop and scope

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>>30324563
That's a perty rifle. Not gunna lie.

>>30324583

SLR Ion ultralight 15" and PA-MDS

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Anyone have thoughts on MaTech vs KAC vs Magpul BUIS

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>>30324524
Kill yourself.

>>30324601
kac and magpul are goat. matech a shit

>>30324586
its Airborne Command

>>30324339
did it come like that?

I fucking hate when people post one picture and provide zero information on how/why it happened to them.

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>>30324614
What ak bayonet in that

>>30324655
Yes it came like that.

>>30324680
Looks like a Romanian type 1

>>30324680
Looks like the standard Romanian stabbing tool.

>>30324558
>alcohol paraphernalia

reporting to authorities

>>30324586
Its the overall Airborne Command -patch. Primarily worn my non-division level airborne units before they would get scooped up by the higher level units. The patch went away in 45 but my last unit would wear it on our wet weather gear to pay homage to the old days.

>>30324744
>>30324749
kthx

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>>30324751
i-its for water

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>>30324782
move along citizen

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>>30324813
dont hurt the dogger bolice man

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>>30324614
Working on it bby.

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>>30324891
>you made a difference!

Every tiem

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>>30324873
How's your Mk12 build going?

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>>30324392
That is an absolutely gorgeous rifle anon. I'm leaning towards Gibbz for my AR10

I hope mine can be as a s t h e t i c when I get the barrel and sights next week

>>30324392
18"(?)
UBR
Gibbz upper

Oh yiss

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>>30324950

Thanks! I'm pretty pleased with the way it came out. Thinking I'll pick up a MEGA lower for it soon.

>>30324964
16"

Also, older pic

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>>30324945
lower is done, pic related. im ordering the upper in a week or so

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>>30324365
What do you consider to be a reasonable price? I can guarantee you what I consider reasonable is probably quite different from what you consider reasonable. Use a proper price range.

>>30324368
Welcome to the wonderful world of the shipping business where nobody cares about you or the package you're receiving.

>>30324392
Looks good, but oh wow you must've really been intent on building a meme gun because that's what you've got.

>>30324424
If you don't shoot with anyone it doesn't matter, but if you do shoot with people then your friends will hate you. I don't give a shit at the range, but since I don't shoot at ranges anymore I dropped the Lantac Dragon because my buddy did nothing but bitch.

Also, depending on the brake some of it will be sent back to you, in which case that definitely matters.

>>30324601
Matech is overcomplicated shit, Magpul MBUS is good if you're cheap, Magpul MBUS Pros are the best price/quality ratio and are way stronger than most people will ever need, and KAC's are the best overall, though way too expensive as a set to be worth it.

>>30324950
>UBR
Is this meme coming back around? I hope it is so I can laugh when it goes away for the same reason it went away last time.

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>>30324987
Where you ordering it from? Which Mod?

>>30324988

Not sure what you mean by meme gun, but it works for me so hey if it's a meme gun, it's a meme gun.

>>30324985
Billet MEGA Lower?

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>>30324988
>>30324632
Thanks.

>>30324985
That's very similar to what I wanna build

>>30324988
>>UBR
>Is this meme coming back around? I hope it is so I can laugh when it goes away for the same reason it went away last time.

Sorry I have disposable income I can spend as I desire fampei.

I'll stop that from now on a buy only /k/-approved, bargain-bin garbage.

>>30325003

GTR-3S is the plan. Hopefully sometime in the near future.

>>30324998
PRI Mod 0. unfortunately glass wont be for a while, there is a big expo coming in august and im hoping leupold will have a lot of glass out, so i can look at em.

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Still haven't 100% decided what I want to build this into. Leaning towards an A4gery.

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>>30324392
Cool rifle.

Anyone recommend a handguard with a profile that would look good with this upper (IE octagonal shaped)? MLOK 9" preferred.

>>30325019
Jesus anon why would you even buy something nick doesn't personally approve

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Confirm/deny: A dimpled/fluted/whatevered barrel is stiffer than an undimpled/unfluted/unwhatevered barrel of the same weight, but bendier than an undimpled/unfluted/unwhatevered barrel of the same diameter.

>>30324988
Prolly around the 300-400 mark, but that's flexible

>>30324988
Why was UBR a meme?

>>30325046
What logic are you basing this on?

>>30325021
>GTR-3S
PLEASEEEE let /arg/ know what the fit is like between MEGA and Gibbz

If they mate correctly I'll basically have my dream AR10

>>30325032
Maybe a Midwest Industries M-Lok, they come in 9.25, but no 9

>>30325064
I think I read that somewhere and I need to know if I have it backwards or something.

>>30325019
>>30325035
If he would finish his "Slav-quality garbage and where to salvage it FAQ" I would certainly build a hardy, /k/-approved pipegun

>>30324241

Thanks for the god-tier explanation, bro.

>>30325046
Yes. The geometry of the dimples will create more material away from the central axis, creating a greater resistance to certain deformations, and also in local areas.

Yes, removing material will always weaken an object in many ways. (an exception is crack initiation and certain fatigue issues, but that is something else)

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>>30325070

Yea, I'll be sure to post once I get it.

>>30325101
God damn anon I really like that

>>30325046
Aren't dimples just so that the gas block screws don't fuck up? I'm not sure what effect it has on the performance of the barrel other than that.

>>30325046
Stiffer for the weight. The fluted barrel will not be as stiff as the original, but it will weigh far less and be stiffer then an equivalent lightweight barrel. Make sense?

>>30325101
Ch reciprocates though, amirite?

>>30325137
No.

>>30325137

non-reciprocating

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>>30324485
>I hope your platform gets banned
Like your ammo, you Slavaboo? Pic related.

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>>30325133
That's what I thought. Thanks.

>>30325120
Wrong kind of barrel dimples, you're thinking of pic related.

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>>30325019
I have disposable income I can spend as I desire as well; the difference is I don't make stupid decisions that I'll replace in 6 months when I get tired of lugging around two pounds of poor cheekweld and no storage space.

Does my rifle look bargain bin to you? If it does, you're pretty retarded. Maybe you should've spent your "disposable income" on a good optic rather than aesthetic parts.

>>30325035
>Jesus anon why would you even buy something
Yeah, be poor like Giddy here.

>>30325050
You could get a PRO or ACO in that range, and that's by far your best bet in terms of a red dot as far as I'm concerned. You could also get something like a Leupold if you want a variable mag optic.

>>30325054
It's unnecessarily heavy for a stock that has no storage space and poor cheekweld. They're beautiful, strong stocks, but the result of the strength is extreme weight and a proprietary buffer tube design. Slapping one of those on any rifle and you'll have one of two (or even both) of these things: an extremely overweight rifle toted by one of those "U JUST NEED 2 WERK OUT" fatbody types, or an extremely unbalanced "I LIKE THE WEIGHT IN THE REAR OF THE WEAPON ANYWAY" ignorant types.

I've helped a few of my buddies build their ARs and many chose UBRs and then talked about all that stupid shit like that stupid strike plate attachment, but every single person I know dropped it in half a year after they realized how it was the bottleneck of their rifle.

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I just got this XM16 upper for a retro build but it has a different front pin and I was wondering what kind of lower I have to get, because it is too big for my current Mil-Spec lower

>>30325147
Nice

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>>30325163
>an extremely unbalanced "I LIKE THE WEIGHT IN THE REAR OF THE WEAPON ANYWAY" ignorant types
If your weapon is rear-heavy it just means you need more coolguy stuff out front.

Are there any good AR10s on the market that I can buy or would I have to build one?

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>>30325163
>UBR a shit
Thanks for the info.
Any recommendation for alternative?
Name of muzzle device?

>>30325200
>most recurring question of /arg

>>30325215
SOPMOD
O
P
M
O
D

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>>30325200
DD

List of /arg/ approved weapon lights
>GO!

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>>30325163
How do you like the TA33, and would you choose it again over a TA31?

>>30324563
What lower do you have there?

>>30325237
Muzzle flash

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Are asshats already panic buying lowers uppers and ammo?
Because I went to dicks sporting goods and saw a couple hundred round boxes.
Maybe it is because of Maryland shitty gun laws who the fuck knows.

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>>30325237
These motherfuckers

My MK4 SMR came in today. That and my Trijicon accupower. Now just waiting for the barrel, gas tube and upper and I'll be golden senpai

>>30325233
>>30325230
Thanks.

>>30325233
Sexy looking

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>>30325196
But coolguy weapons are only front heavy, not balanced or rear heavy!

>>30325215
SOPMOD, LWRC mini and micro SOPMOD, almost any of Magpul's other stocks (barring the MOE), the BCM Gunfighter if you're a faggot like me, or really most other stocks. The UBR is a DMR stock and nothing more. If you've got a DMR, then the UBR will be a great stock, but other than that it's terrible.

>>30325200
KAC SR-25, Daniel Defense's AR10, or if you feel adventurous you can try out the DPMS G2 for everyone. If you want to build one then have fun digging through two different part styles and building a rifle for way too much money.

>>30325243
I enjoy it thoroughly and if I had the choice of a TA31 or a TA33 I would probably go with the TA33 all over again. The TA31 is awesome and is better than the TA33 in some ways, but I really prefer the TA33's lower magnification and longer eye relief.

>>30325254
The wrong one.

>>30325237
Surefire weapon lights and nothing else.

So, I took off those little inserts that the B5 stock has to help with the rattle, and I have to say, I kind of like it better without them. You lose some of that anti-rattle, but it adjusts a lot more smoothly now.

>>30325307
senpai streamlight makes good lights too
inforce makes *okay* lights

>>30325163
>lugging around
What/where are you lugging shit around? Do you open carry your AR around town?

> Does my rifle look bargain bin to you?
Looks pretty good, exact for for that dumpy looking stock. Is that a 3x30 ACOG? Do you like that Muzzle Comp?

> Maybe you should've spent your "disposable income" on a good optic rather than aesthetic parts.
Why not both? I have four parts left to buy: 16" Barrel, VG6 Epsilon, some BUIS, and either an Aimpoint T2 or Trijicon TA31H/Green

>>30325307
Thanks mate, you might've sealed the deal for me. Have you tried running it quickly on closer targets?

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>>30325343
>Do you open carry your AR around town?
do you not

>>30325343
do you not go innawoods with you ar?

>green reticle
lmao

>>30325365
green is fine
when you need the illumination it won't matter what color it is
also lime green is not as common as you would think in the PNW

Sighted in my 5x optic today and finally rang steel at 300 yards. I know that's pretty close, but it's further than I can repeatably shoot so far with shit-tier ammo with my bolt-rifle. AR eats shit ammo and I can ring the gong about 90% of the time. I can already tell this is going to be an addiction.

>>30325365
>do you not go innawoods

You mean leave my house?

Are you crazy?

>>30325215

Gotta say, I disagree with the UBR bashing going on. It's solid as all hell, has a great cheek weld, and looks sexy to boot. It is heavy, I will gladly agree with that, but it doesn't bother me at all. I would happily buy another if I built another lower.

>>30325158
I'm like milsurpguy. I own both rifles. I love both rifle. But I'm looking at an M1 garand atm. But you guys can't make up your mind. I just roll with what I have.

>>30325381
enjoy your washout

>>30325399
ebin

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>>30325200
SR-25 E2 ACC M-LOK

>>30325237
Surefire Scout

Or if you're poor, an M951 off ebay plus an LED conversion.

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>>30325431
I will

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>>30325474
its great

>>30325541
What are you trying to shoot? Ants?

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>>30325407
>>30325307
>>30325230
>>30325233

Thanks.

Does new Gen2 of UBR coming out soon matter? Still very heavy but 4 oz lighter? Building a lightweight rifle so may just go with B5 SOPMOD.

https://www.magpul.com/products/ubr-2-0-collapsible-stock

>>30325600
If you're going light just get the Falkor BMSMIL

>>30325593
>never heard of antman
>ants are used by antman
>never trust an ant

>>30325032
http://www.smosarms.com/collections/rails/products/sm9-mlok-rail

>>30325541
that's not bad

>>30325593
i am showing washout due to the green reticle and green grass. its what we are talking about

>>30325617
>Falkor BMSMIL
>not Battle Arms Development Lightweight Buttstock that weighs half as much

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>>30325667
riiiight

>>30325237
This with malkoff drop in.

http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=LF&s=26&id=855

>>30325682
>Battle Arms Development Lightweight Buttstock
>>30325617

Damn that thing is barely anything. Would it work for SBR build or am I being trolled/is it a meme?

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what's /arg/'s thoughts on picrelated?

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>>30325645
Thanks.

>>30325768
ugly

>>30325768
spacegun

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>>30324680
Answers are correct.
>>30325768
Fantastic way of making people with more money than brains and taste lighten their wallets. Reading the component list on those things and then seeing how much they cost is a fucking riot.

>>30325785
>>30325786
>22:32:00
confirmed for ugly spacegun

>>30325768
Literally looks like they're taken right out of Destiny^tm

>>30325796
>component list
highlights?

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>>30324330
Just got an AR. Basic model though, and lacks a sight. What are some decent cheap sights?

>>30325845
>Pay something like $2900 for your tacky spacegat
>Melonite barrel
It's fucking insulting, but also funny as shit.

>>30325870
Irons, optics, or both?

>>30325870
magpul mbus

>>30325870
What did you get?

>>30325885
Either, but I prefer Optics.

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>>30325541
Too bad you don't have fiber optics ;)

>>30325872
kinda new to the whole AR thing, is melonite bad?

>>30325896
DPMS. I know it isn't amazing, but it was cheap, and I'm on a budget.

>>30325920
Oracle? How much?

>>30325905
It's a poorfag alternative to chrome lining. It's not bad but it's far from appropriate for a $3000 rifle.

>>30325333
No and double no.

>>30325343
I use my AR to hunt hogs on a few of my friend's properties. My buddy also has a 500yd range that I shoot at and when we shoot it's usually for six or more hours at a time, and during that time we usually don't put our rifles down because there's nowhere to place them.

>Looks pretty good, exact for for that dumpy looking stock. Is that a 3x30 ACOG? Do you like that Muzzle Comp?
See? Not bargain bin, just sense. I've used the UBR enough to know that it's shit for anything other than a gun that'll never leave the bench or a DMR.

The stock is nice and weighs less than the standard carbine stock. There's a single drawback, and that's that the QD sockets suck on it. Yes it's a TA33, and I like the Lantac but I got rid of it for the MAMS because the concussion was annoying my friends and because it can't mount a suppressor.

>Why not both? I have four parts left to buy: 16" Barrel, VG6 Epsilon, some BUIS, and either an Aimpoint T2 or Trijicon TA31H/Green

>Why not both?
It's perfectly fine to do both, but then why waste income on something like a Primary Arms and a Vortex while waiting? Continues to show a not-so-smart pattern of spending money, in my opinion.

>>30325365
Green is good, faggot. No resale value though, and that God for that.

>>30325346
Yes; BAC works fine.

>>30325600
Haven't looked into it but I doubt it'll be any better realistically.

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>>30325900
savage m8

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>>30325768
Gayer than 8 guys fucking 9 guys

>>30325872
>melonite
For a basic tier gun it's fine but 2800+100 that's fucking hilarious

Pic related, day two of/???? Working on this bottle

>>30325931
New for just under 500.

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>>30325899
Does it have an FSB or are you completely without any sort of sights whatsoever? If it has an FSB, get yourself a Magpul BUIS rear or, preferably, a surplus KAC 600m rear off ebay. They'll both cost about the same and are sturdy. KAC is better, tho.

Git good with that, just don't expect anything like precision beyond 50m with basic irons. Then, move on to optics and figure out your pricerange.

>>30325905
Melonite is what you get when you buy a PSA Freedom upper. It's a way of cheapening out on chrome lining, which is the industry standard. For a rifle that's just shy of $3000, a melonite barrel is hangyourself-tier.

>>30325953
None at all, sadly.

am i missing something here?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Knights-Armament-KAC-rear-600m-sight-/262474953937?hash=item3d1cb9f4d1:g:Lw0AAOSwn8FXSibE

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>>30325941
>Green is good
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>>30325992
Jesus, at least say you don't have a railed gas block.

>>30325994
No but that marine is a fucking retard

>>30324446
There's literally nothing wrong with that stock.

The grip, however, is kind of shit.

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>>30325996
You don't have fiberoptic green, you niggerino. Only you suffer from that.

>>30326006
heres another

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Knights-Armament-KAC-Rear-flip-up-Micro-Sight-200-600M-USMC-25650-/142024413546?hash=item211150916a:g:9rIAAOSwu1VW8Zv7

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>>30325994
>seller: oorahh912
>"Picture has two sights but you will get one I have one out for a better picture"
Nope, everything seems in order.

>>30326021
Name of handguard on bottom one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kac-600M-Micro-Flip-Rear-Sight-Blk-/361421350359?hash=item54266425d7:g:vMIAAOSwI-BWNyVG

whats up with this

>>30326026
I'd still try and find one cheaper around the 60 dollar range

>>30326031
PWS

>>30326050
Thanks

>>30326042
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Knights-Armament-Company-KAC-600M-Micro-Back-Up-Iron-Sight-BUIS-/272272426286?_trkparms=aid%253D222007%2526algo%253DSIC.MBE%2526ao%253D1%2526asc%253D20150519202348%2526meid%253Df6426c17b6d34989be6621ebbd0712d5%2526pid%253D100408%2526rk%253D1%2526rkt%253D4%2526sd%253D361421350359&_trksid=p2056116.c100408.m2460

>>30326015
>There's literally nothing wrong with that stock.
kek

>>30326021
i dont have it cause it will washout :^

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Thoughts on pic related?
Got a bonus at work so I might go ahead an order one tomorrow morning.. Just wanted to know what you guys think before I lay down the cash.

>>30326065
ya, thats a regular price

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>>30326021
had an accupoint on my other upper, from your recommendation.

its still on my mind as getting one again or the leupold mark 4 with offset t1 for this upper.

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>>30326072
>there's nothing wrong with the stock

Should I sell my TA-31F acog and get an exps3 and cash?

>>30326075
The furniture is even uglier in person than it looks in photos. Also that huge gap between the receiver and the handguard makes me want to vomit.

>>30326104
What is the resale market like on fiber optic scopes?

Any good deals come up?

>>30326099
laughingsluts.png amirite

>>30326104
no.

also good luck selling the acog. the market is so fucking saturated with those.

>>30325215
dat CHEETO DUST

>>30326140
>>30326171

Ive seen beat to shit ones go for about $650-750 on ebay. Probably stolen too. Mine is only 2-3 years old, has all the original shit and Im a calicuck so faggots here pay more so Im hoping I can get $950ish.

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>>30326075
>daniel defense

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>>30326092
I really do love my Accupoint.

>>30326075

get the m4v5, v9 or m4a1. That one in your pic looks ugly as fuck

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Is it generally a good idea to go lightweight with a SBR /CQBR type build or will it become too light and difficult to handle?

Pic not related.

>>30326075
Buy a DD upper and slap in on a prebuilt PSA Magpul lower. It's cheaper, performs just as well, and you'll get better furniture that doesn't look like shit. No one buys DD prebuilt rifles.

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>>30326210
why dont you want it anymore?

>>30326231
i ended up selling mine to get the mark 4 thats on this. its a really hard decision for me whether to get one again because those mark 4s will be unavailable next year.

>>30326260
>got a basically-free mk4 1.5-5x
>it's just wasting potential sitting on a .300blk rifle
I should sell it next year for more than MSRP and buy some actually good glass. I'm super fucking disappointed in it, it's literally worse than a Strike Eagle.

>>30326293
worse than a strike eagle...? thats a joke right?

you probably got a fake lmao

>>30326260

Never really get to use it to its full potential. Its an extremely nice optic though. Most ranges around here max out at 100 yards. I mostly shoot clay targets or steel at 25-50 yards. Figure an exps3 in tan would be better and lighter

>>30326249
>Is it generally a good idea to go lightweight
Yes.

>>30326026
I just bought a used one for $45. The finish is a little worn but it's functional.

>>30326260
whats the name of that range way south?

>>30324985
just wondering how you deal with no forward assist?

>>30326167
>>30326099
Explain the disdain for the bro company stock?

>>30326362
pe ell sportmens club

http://www.plsportsmensclub.com/

>>30326320
im biased toward aimpoint, check those out. often people want to trade up for acogs. see if you can get a t1 and cash.

>>30326406
>http://www.plsportsmensclub.com/
thanks m80

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>>30326396

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>>30326396
its ugly af

>>30326319
Nah. Early model with no illumination and capped turrets.

Glass is better (though not by enough to matter on a low power optic), but it's more like a ~1.7-4.9 than it is 1.5-5x, and the 20mm objective/1" tube and capped turrets really kinda kill its usefulness. It's pretty fucking dim in anything other than full daylight

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>>30326462
Who makes that pen? I need a writing utensil that'll tenderize the shit out of my hand the whole time I'm using it.

>>30326506
not much writing going on with that pen m8

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>>30326396
The biggest issue I have is the locking mechanism. It's super stiff and not smooth. It's shit compared to any number of other stocks that can be had for the price.

The geometry of it is shit compared to any number of stocks that can be had for the price (especially a SOPMOD or VLTOR)

It was a bad decision to get this stock and it's going to be gone asap

>>30325941
>but then why waste income on something like a Primary Arms and a Vortex while waiting?

I'm not.......

I have neither of those. Where did all that come from?

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>>30326462
You just have shit taste

>>30324330
how much space should there be between the gas block and the shoulder?

>>30326092
handguard company?

>>30326524
Did you try lubricating it, or maybe locking and unlocking it a thousand times to wear the components into each other?

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>>30326537
Fucking Fab Defense, I swear

>>30326506
>>30326523
That's a roll pin punch famalam

>>30326543
KAC URX 4 M-LOK

>>30326566
no, its a handcuff pen.

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> not storing a separate weapon inside of your AR

Are you guys even trying?

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here's my AR guys

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>>30324330

>polymer edition
>crusader edition

i know this triggers your autism

>>30326595
nice

>>30326538
please respond.

>>30324383
How do you like your Gibbz upper? I am going to put one on my 9mm SBR to keep gas blowback from my face when using a can. A little pricier but they look cool. Would a billet upper look weird on a standard lower?

>>30324330
What are some good cheap red dots?

>>30326491
>Early model with no illumination and capped turrets

there. dont speak for the rest of them when you have the cheapest model.

>>30326543
its a KAC urx 4

>>30326622
PA Advanced Micro Dot

Literally the only good cheap red dot.

>>30326622
used Aimpoint CompM

>>30326538
shoulder of wat

>>30326622
pa

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>>30326526
I'm probably just making assumptions as to who you are in this thread, which would be the person I originally replied to at the very top of the thread with the Cryptic bolt and the Gibbz upper.

>>30326595
That handle...noice

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>>30326554
Almost as nice as MFT stocks

>>30326548
In over a decade of using all manner of colapsible stock so have never used lube on a buffer tube, or had to wear out the locking mechanism. If that's what you have to do to a stock then it's a shitty stock.

I don't care for the leaf spring design.

>>30326641
that's the area where the gas block butts up to when you push it all the way on.

Trump man when I get the UBR I'll give you an actual review written by someone without the unwarranted complex of being superior.

The general consensus is that yeah they are heavy buy they are solid as fuck and people who have actually bought them who post here (not nicks "friends") have all seemed really happy with them

I've got a stripped polymer lower I haven't done anything with. Is it safe to blast the thing with spray paint until I get it some special snowflake color for a build? I'm not sure WHY spray paint would be bad for polymer but there might be something I'm not thinking of here.

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Shit pics until I get out to the range

>>30324950
>Stealth grey
My nigga. Were you the one asking me for more pics of grey on black before?

>>30326653
if your gb lines up there is no problem

>>30326673
I know that, I'm asking how much space there should be between the gas block and that area.

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Low light steel is so much fun. The spark shower is amazing.

>tfw added new gong to the 200 yard range

>>30326632
>didn't change the garbage reticle for any of the later models
>all models are 1" tube/20mm objective
>glass is the same in all models
Literally my only complaint that wouldn't apply to later models is the capped turrets.

The Strike Eagle is brighter, with a better reticle, and should be more durable due to 30mm tube. It also has more elevation and windage adjustment range, again due to the 30mm tube. It's more like a 1.4-5.9x, so it has a more accurate and more useful magnification range. It's anywhere from $190-$350 vs. $800-$1100, so it's about a quarter the price with the *only* tradeoffs being marginally worse glass and being longer.

>>30326681
https://www.adcofirearms.com/shopservices/shop_qnew2016.cfm?code=Pin%20gas%20block

>>30326642
Nah that's not me mang, I'm the one with this WIP rifle>>30324950

Although you are right about my spending choices, I have a bad habit of only thinking Cost = Quality.

I mean in most cases, but I go to the point of ignoring cheaper items.

>>30326681
Shouldn't be any. They should touch.

>>30326681
and im saying it will depend on your shit YOU FAG. if your gb lines up with the holes and woreks there is no PROBLEM

>>30326669
>Were you the one asking
Nope not me, but IDGAS, any grey scheme is clear by me

> MLOK covers

my nigga #2

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>>30326705
you, you are a special kind of retarded arent you?

https://www.leupold.com/tactical/scopes/mark-4-mrt-riflescopes/

you must have not shot long enough with scopes to really understand actual optical quality.

>>30326668
Risky. Be sure to ventilate toxix spray paint fumes. Careful there.

>>30326754
Risky because it's polymer or because it's a lower? Or both?

>>30326740
>>30326669
Also I plan to cerakote the takedown pins, selector, mag release, and charging handle lever in Stealth Grey too for maximum a s t h e t i c

>>30326704
Left handwd?

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>>30326705
K. Tube Diameter 1.18 in
30.00 mm

because you cant be bothered to do any research yourself

https://www.leupold.com/tactical/scopes/mark-4-mrt-riflescopes/mark-4-mrt-1-5-5x20mm-30mm-m2/

>>30326524
I cant get the piece of shit off my rifle.

The locking system is shit

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hey dor/k/s, what do y'all think of polymer 80 percent lowers? I'm thinking about getting one so I can slowly build up to having an AR piece by piece. Right now I don't have a well paying job, so I don't have a lot of disposable income, and I'm not sure that by the time I can afford a fancy premade AR that it would still be legal to buy one

>>30326622
>good
>cheap
If it's not the MD-ADS, you chose wrong.

>>30326800
>piece of shit it is

Compress locking mechanism place small Allen key through the holes and pull down. Once done either put in trash or try to sell it.

>>30326833
I have done that. Its like its stuck on the last notch in the buffer. Im going to have to fucking cut it off.

>>30326823
Any reason you want to get an 80% lower instead of just buying a finished one outright

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what are the chances of getting a 9mm factory round with the primer on backwards

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>>30326827
Hey man, the SPARC II is alright. Not as good, but it's alright and looks better.

God I need to clean my rifle.

>>30326823
>polymer [...]lowers
don't do that

>>30326764
Because of the spray paint.

>>30326863
that fucking hangnail

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>>30326871

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>>30326871
Ain't got shit on dat 50k battery life.

>>30326862
it's cheaper, plus I think it would give the gun a bit more intimate and sentimental value, plus if the govt wanted to take my guns away it wouldn't have a serial number or anything like that

>>30326873
o-ok but if I get a non polymer lower then would I still be able to drill it out without getting fancy expensive milling tools?

>>30326794
K, I missed that model. Sorry. I thought there was the 1", non-illuminated model, and the $1800 .300blk-specific 30mm illuminated meme model.

Still.
>glass is the same through all 3 models
>glass is not a significant improvement over a Strike Eagle
I do have both, and I do compare them side by side.

>all models still have a 20mm objective
Which means all models transmit less light.

>the reticle is objectively fucking garbage
This is undisputable. All the models are SFP but they put a reticle in there that would be best on FFP because the stadia lines are invisible against anything other than a plain white background.

oh also dan pls post lewd thnx :3

>>30326863
50/50

>>30326863
Pretty good. I've had it happen with Federal bulkpack, WWB, Blazer aluminum, Blazer brass, Speer Lawman, and Wolf steel-cased.

I've also gotten rounds with no powder (factory squibs are a ton of fun, lemme tell you) and and once a single box with 4 rounds that shipped with no fucking bullet in them, just a primed case and loose powder in the box.

>>30326920
no, it's this one


http://www.polymer80.com/G150-Phoneix2-80-Lower-with-Jig-System_p_1137.html

>>30326944
why not buy an anderson for cheaper or an aero for a little more

>>30326848
Take it apart, hole in the rear of the stock will give you access to the bolt holding the two halves together. Once you do that you can remove the spring and locking mechanism. Again once it's off put it in the trash.

>>30326903
>an 80%
>ever cheaper
They could literally pay you $20 to take the lower and unless you already had all the equipment to mill it out it would still be more expensive than an Anderson or PSA blem.

And considering Andersons are $40 and the absolute cheapest 80% I've seen (without jig) is $50...

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>>30326900
>>30326902
Like I said, not as good. But it looks better aesthetically and it does an okay job. Only thing that isn't as good is battery life.

>>30326908
>glass is not a significant improvement over a Strike Eagle
no, go out and actually fucking use them in the field. shoot from light to dark and dark to light.

go actually spend time with the scope and then come back and tell me that low end vortex compares to a mark 4 leupold.

>all models still have a 20mm objective
again, go use it in the field. come back when you understand how much light the human eye can gather

>the reticle is objectively fucking garbage
opinion no matter what. i happen to think vortex cant make a good fucking reticle to save their life.

theres a reason that the army uses mark 4s on spr set ups and not vortex.

>>30326903
>cheaper
You can get a stripped lower for $50
>serial number
Does your state have registration? Cause if not then whats the issue?

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>>30326971
>but it looks better aesthetically

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Why do mil spec style triggers have such garbage lock time?

>>30326987
It does though
MD-ADS looks stupid man

>>30326991
vacuum that shit nigger

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>>30326987
these fucking normies and their "aesthetics" these days.

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>>30326968
Thats what I ended up doing. The locking piece that looks like a staple, was bent and was getting stuck.

Back to my CTR.

>>30326987
>Other people enjoy form as much as functionality
>Throw a shitfit

>>30326974
>no, go out and actually fucking use them in the field
I do this regularly. Did you miss the part where I said I own both?
>shoot from light to dark and dark to light
Can't, I can't see shit through the mk4 unless it's broad daylight. Dusk or rainy days and it's too dim to see the reticle or any non-white/fluorescent target. Yet the SE does just fine, and I've even shot it in the middle of the night with a good moon.

>there's a reason the army uses mk4's on SPR setups and not Vortex
Because no appropriate Vortex scope existed at the time the contract was made and Leupold's been hob nobbing with contract monkeys for longer than Vortex has existed, not because they're in any way better. Same reason they don't use the NF on the M110 despite it being an objectively better scope in all regards while also being cheaper than the contracted mk6.

Seriously, do you own any Leupold product at all? Or have you ever touched a Vortex product that isn't one of their red dots?

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What is the best home defense ammo for a 5.56 AR with 1/7 twist barrel?

>>30326970
well I also have a stopper on my background checks bc NYS counts voluntary admission for mental health treatment as involuntary regardless, and I can't afford a lawyer to fight it

>>30326976
nope, I'm in NC now. It's just they could get a list of manufacturer serial numbers and collect guns based off that, or search sales records and reference it with serial numbers etc

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>>30326903

with either a polymer or aluminum lower you can literally use a drill and a vise. you dont need a drill press.

i bought a tnarmsco polymer lower like 2 years ago after that big thread on here and ive had zero issues with it and i toss my rifle around quite a bit. those guys have done thermite tests and other torture tests on their lowers that show how strong they actually are. most poly lowers fail where the buffer tube is but theirs is reinforced with brass or something like that.

i will say you are more likely to get a lower that is out of spec due to the properties of polymer. my dad has 3 tnarmsco lowers and one of his he got was out of spec and because it was so cheap he just tossed it out. there have been a lot of bad experiences with other companies but so far from what ive seen, the tnsarmsco lowers have been pretty good.

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>>30327001
whatever ya say senpai

>>30327012
reddit must be broken or something

>>30327024
but the PA is better in both function and form

>>30327028
Anything that isn't a penetrator round

>>30327030
>or search sales records
Not without a warrant, which requires them to already know the make and model of the gun a crime was committed with.

>>30327028
one that will hit your target

>>30327015
Mario needs to be in this.

>>30327048
The PA is short and stubby, it looks retarded.

>>30327063
So buy one of the PA CompM2 clones that's even cheaper that still has better battery life than the Vortex.

>>30327015
Hahahahaha it's such a piece of shit. I hate that I spent the money on it.

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>>30327043
th-thanks anon, I'll keep that in mind

>>30327057
well that's under the current law, if they changed legislature I could see that changing. Also the government does illegal shit all the time, idk why they'd play by the rules if they try to disarm the population in violation of the constitution

>>30327063
no reason to argue over it senpai. you are not going to change your opinion and neither am i.

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>>30325276
>killing terrorists through mercury poisoning
Absolutely brutal.

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>>30327026
oh boy, you are retarded as i though. just another poorfag vortex shill.

youve got a fake mark 4 or you are fucking blind.

>Seriously, do you own any Leupold product at all?
kek. this, a vari-x 3 1.5-5x20, a vx3 6.5-20 and not to count the countless leupolds of my fathers collection ive shot with.

>>30327088
Ex post facto and the fact that illegal searches and seizures don't lead to convictions would protect you from that.

Honestly it sounds like you should go "voluntarily" check yourself back into treatment. You're paranoid AF.

>>30325768

The computer "Alienware" equivalent in the gun world.

new

>>30327120
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>>30327116
nice try mr illuminati you'll never get me

>>30327105
Again, have you ever actually looked through any Vortex magnified optic? They are comparable. There's a reason the Razor HD gen2's are considered to be in the highest tier of tactical scopes, up there with the likes of S&B, Kahles, Swarvoski, March, etc.

It's not fake, I know where it came from. Still have the original box and everything.

>>30327159
Can you do a side by side comparison? I'm interested.