Y-20 Strategic Airlifter enters service, only 3 years after

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>>30307503
Engines are still the D-30 copy, WS-18.

But even with those. 66 ton carrying capacity is ensured.

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>>30307506
Prototype with different color scheme.

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>>30307510

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>>30307526
The final engines, the WS-20, are currently tested on an IL-76 platform.

With them, the Y-20 would be able to carry at least 10 tons more.

Impressive

Now that Janes has verified it, no one can say otherwise.

>>30307503
50 cents

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>>30307503
>those chink engines.
Looks like something off a WW2 german jet.

Why can't the asians figure out engines?

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>>30307503
What an ugly, weak looking jet.

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>>30307503
damn, i knew chinks were small but i didn't realize they were this small

>>30307653
they weren't able to steal those designs

>>30307653
>>30307664
>What is low-bypass vs high-bypass
You guys need to look at more engines.

>>30307503
>According to Jane's as well, China would want 1000 Y-20s. This number will enable China to deploy entire armored divisions by air.

Holy shit that's more than what even Murrica has. Even if that number involves Y-20 derived special mission planes such as AWACS and Tankers, it's still more than the US has C-17s.

China is planning to conquer America?

>airlift is all you need for power projection
>they'll definitely produce this in the thousands!

21st century is shaping up to be another century of shame

>>30307825
>reading comprehension is hard

But off 50

>>30307838
Their naval buildup is already underway. Airlift is literally the only thing they still need.

>>30307503
Who takes these sneaky pictures of Chinese equipment? Silly American Spies with meme cameras or very nosy Chinese citizens?

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>>30307858
Tolerated wall-climbers.

And it is not that the Y-20 is classified. It was shown during airshows.

>>30307503
>This number will enable China to deploy entire armored divisions by air.

When and how would this even be possible? Against a nation with no airforce and no air defence?

>>30308266
Yes, let's drop them all in areas where there are high concentrations of defenders. No one has ever driven into a combat zone from 20km away, after landing behind a mountain range. We drop them right on top of our enemy. The burning wreckage from 1000 aircraft holding armored vehicles is our main offensive weapon.
t. China

>>30308266
Who ever said they'd send them against well defended positions? Are you being retarded on purpose?

>>30308349
>>30308395
>well defended positions
>high concentrations of defenders
yeah he didnt say that. he said against a nation with no airforce and no air defense. chinaboos both of you.

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>>30308266
You know that the PLAAF isnt so weak, as they cant accomplish air-dominance vs. Taiwan, right?

They are Asia's largest and strongest airforce by far, with most numbers of 4th gen platform and strike aircrafts in service, in addition to a fuckhuge number of older platforms that all at least can act as attack aircraft or just missile sponges.

Chances are, for a Taiwan scenario, that the PLAAF do not even play such a huge role in air-superiority, as their ballistic and cruise missiles will make short work of their AD (that isnt even considered as IADS by any means).

Then, a single J-11B/D regiment could sweep the skies of any stragglers, while ancient Q-5s and J-7s could conduct CAS with inpunity, while the Y-20s deliver entire mechanized formations onto captured air-fields.

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>>30308496
A couple JD-16s could completely shut down Taiwanese air-defense by EW and DEAD means.

>>30308496
Why do you bother to convince them? They obviously don't care for facts because it'll get in the way of their shitposting so just let them believe whatever they want.

>>30307520
Very IL-76md-90a, ain't it?

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>>30308512
IL-76 aft and fuselage
C-17 tail
An-70 nose
A-400M landing gear housing

All in all, a nice looking combination.

>>30308522
oops, wings as well. for the IL-76 (except for the super-critical wings, which is a chinese original)

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>>30308522
Needs more crown molding

>>30307850
It's going to be sad when they find out about the whole air superiority thing.

>>30308638
Not like they aren't building carriers and J20/J31s.

>>30308496

Lmfao I love to see those heaps of scrap even get off the ground

>>30308507
>4chan
>altering fundamental beliefs
If you think obvious propaganda will work on an anonymous image board, you're retarded.

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>>30308496
>mfw the majority of their airforce is still shitty mig21 copies.

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>>30308791
China isnt North Korea.

In contrast to them (or even to the Russians), even the oldest J-7s can take off and actually have regular air combat training. China does not lack funding, unlike those other mentioned countries.

>>30308887
Roughly the half, actually.

900 J-7s and about 1200+ modern 4th gen combat planes. That chart is only the partial inventory of 2014.

In 2016, that number grew bigger again, with 400 J-10s (3 regiments of J-10Bs to be exact) now in service.

>>30308885
If you think simple facts are propaganda then you're the retard.

>>30308917
Meanwhile Russia has 0 defence across its eastern borders.

Its only about time until China and Japan form a coalition and take siberia for themselves.

>China would want 1000 Y-20

Horry sheet

>>30308958
China is so powerful that they do not require propaganda. They only speak the truth at all times. We should be so grateful for such news about their military from their military.

>>30309323
Yes. Anything said about the PLA is propaganda. Even if it comes from a respectable third-party like Janes.

Luckily you're here to redpill everyone!

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>>30309299
AWACS, Tankers, Gunship variant and civilian, as well as possible exports. And possible airborne lasers.

I think they mean the full production run.

>>30307653
That's a low-bypass engine. Just stick a big fan around it and I'd be your normal 700 series jet engine.

>>30307825
China is also three times as big as the U.S.. According to your logic, their army shouldn't be over 2 million strong, unless they want to conquer America.

>>30309368
But Jane's is not Chinese, they do not truly know. Only China may confirm what Jane's says about China.

>>30308496
>China attack Taiwan
>winning
Would they win before or after getting btfo by Amarica? I guess the Chinese government will convince them that a defeat is victory.

>>30309262
>China and Japan

Not until they aporogize fol walu climu

>>30309436
>America has little forces in the area
>America sending a fully competent force to defend Taiwan island

>>30309449
>Amarica not taking the excuse to knock down China a notch.
Besides, China would never attack, can't lose those Amarica sheckles.

>>30309369
What are those boxes on the J-20? Missiles?

>>30309475
Very true.

>China not taking the excuse to know America down a notch

>>30309498
Guessing ECM pods

>>30309323
10-20 years ago Chinese nationalists used to love hawkish US thinktanks and China-threat articles because they portrayed China as big strong and threatening; while the Chinese government was portraying themselves as weak and harmless.

Nowadays, they don't pretend as much. Yeah there is propaganda everywhere, but it isn't necessarily Chinese propaganda. More often than not, it's American propaganda hyping up Chinese strength.

While I'm certain that China is overhyped to some degree, one would have to be a blind to deny that China has one of the most powerful air forces in Asia. Not even the frigging US can afford to discount them and you are a moron for doing so.

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>>30309511
>China doing anything to Amarica

>>30309498
Stealthy missile pods, also note the fanart forward swept wings

>>30309498
probably missile pods.

>>30307503
>It will finally kill the meme about China having no power projection.
some airplanes =/= logistical and military capability to field a force anywhere in the world for any period of time

>>30307531
Why I thought of Kerbal space program?

>>30307503
China has no power projection, even with a C17 copy.

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>>30309542

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China will grow larger.

>>30309733
>That pic
Kek, the Chinamen better hope nothing bad enough happens to their country to make the 800 million impoverished people there smarten up and realize where the real power lies.

>>30309691
They have the most auxiliaries in the world champ ;)

US Sealift Command is smaller than China's Coastguard.

>>30309528
Just stating the obvious. Any discounting is just your interpretation.

>>30310064
So the coast guard is going to move troops around?

>>30309744
so what? the little chinks will be average height in 20 years?

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50 Yuan and 5 Good Citizen points have been deposited in your accounts, OP.

>>30308684
It's going to be sad when they realize they don't have a functional carrier doctrine.

>>30309369
>posts what is obviously a photoshop from weibo
>putting it in a 50 cent propaganda thread
>weibo is just chink reddit

top lel

>>30309822

The Chinese as a people have a pretty bad record of pulling off successful revolutions

Besides, the time honored tactic of killing a shitload of Chinese people seems to work pretty effectively every time.

>>30307850
>Their naval buildup is already underway
kek

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>>30309369
>Jet based gunship

>>30307825
China is huge, and most of their country is hard to travel through, making it hell for any large movements.
In the US you can just put your shit on a rail and send it across, in China they'd need something more if they ever expect to make large movements with any speed.

>>30310175
Says the cucks getting their women to manlet spics and nignogs....actually guess you and the chinks share that in common.

Very embarassing, enjoy your 'diversity'

>>30308638
>>30310494
They have, or can easily have, aerial superiority in Asia for all that concerns them. Of course that's excluding America, but the US plays in another league.

And about carrier... well, they have carriers. That's more than what the other countries in Asia can say.

China is taking the right steps to look like a true world power, gotta give it to them. Dunno if it'll mean anything in the long run. But their force projection capabilities will be necessary to safely keep their interests in the rest of the world - which they have already bought out, in many places.

Damn. I ain't no chinkboo but it's worthy to note that China's military is gargantuan now. Eventually, they'll just keep USA out by sheer brute force.

>>30307591
>Now that Janes has verified it, no one can say otherwise.

Who denied it existed?

>>30307858
Usually a little bit from column A and a little bit from column B.

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>>30310770
>MURRICA flies gunships
>MURRICA FK YA

>other countries flys gunships
>hahaha what is this the 40s?

you know people living in the land of the burgers, you really should teach your kids the meaning of why you shouldn't throw rocks when you live in a glass house.

>>30310953
You didn't even address what the anon said.

>>30309498
They actually resemble bomblet dispensers.

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Why dont mods prune these threads?

>literally yesterday
>what makes china good?
>no airlift
>today
>ORANGE CHIKEN PANDA STRATEGRIC AIRRIFT CHOW FUN MANAPUA DOG

worst shill ever

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>>30308540
Useless comparison since the proportion are all fucked up

There's no way A400 are close to the size of Il-76 or C-17

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>>30311123
salty pajeet detected

>>30309409
Not that, but their army shouldnt be allowed to be bigger than the US one so as to not upset the balance of power and cause unnecessary spending everywhere else. The status quo of American hegemony is perfect, they have no right stepping over it

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The scenario stands

>>30311197
But India's army is undeniably better than Chinas in every way. They have working 4+ gen fighters being produced unlike shit Chinese J-10 that crash or flanker derivatives, MBTs built with Western technology (Arjun) that arent T-72 copies like China's Type 99 and 3 carriers and are producing more. India would easily wipe the floor with China in a war

>>30311227

Oh boy here we go

>>30310953
MURRICA doesn't have any jet based gunships.

>>30311227
But can India wipe their asses?

>>30311236
But you cant refute any of that.

Picturethis. Rafales and Tejas's own the sky and the ground is littered with the wreckage of J-10s and shit Type 99s while Arjuns push towards Beijing, and the ocean is cordoned off by 3 CSGs all of China's paper tiger sabre rattling will be the most pathetic thing the world has ever seen.

>>30311207
It's not unique to China imo. Everyone has been snooping on everyone these days.

>>30311260
>I cant refute any of this so I'll resort to stale old memery

t. 50 cent shill

>>30311197

>poo in loo

Do you get .50 for shitposting too?

>>30311261
POO

>>30311197
Is this thread some sort of passive aggressive revenge for India participating in that naval exercise?

>>30307503
Good

>>30307825
It's essentially a jet-engined C-130.

In the sense that it is mid-ranged and weight.

C-17 is long-range and weight.

>>30308428
He is asking a retarded question.

>>30308496
Facts don't matter on /k/.

>>30309733
China only owns a fraction of that debt. And they bought so much of it that the US owns them now.

>>30310814
Better than Arabs, europoor.

>>30308791
China's pilots have similar flight hours to American pilots.

All of them fly. Question is, do they fly well?

>>30308885
>facts are propaganda

Taiwan has 150 4th gen. Most are F-16's and F-16 variants,

>>30308887
Pretty much all have been retired to reserve status.

Kind of like the T-38's, F-5's, and F-16A's.

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>>30309369
That triggers me

>>30309599
>power projection
>put a force and support it anywhere in the world

>>30310765
?

>>30311123
>providing facts via Janes, a third party source, is off-limits on /k/

>>30311227
Poop

>>30311347
Haha what? China didn't even mention it. How would the Chink propagandists know to shill about it on a Cambodian finger painting imageboard if not?

>>30311401
Y-20 may have less payload capability than C-17 (66 tonnes vs 77 tonnes for C-17) but it can still carries 3 times the payload of C-130. It even edges Il-76 in term of payload capability

>>30311553
Better example is an IL-76 then.

C-130's are short-range low weight tactical transports. I think China has similar ones.