Are the AR and AK the pinnacle of rifle design? The US and Russian

>>30297723
In the last 50 years three guns have been responsible for about 80% of most rifles:

AR-15

AK

AR-18

>>30297723
Reliable operations with reliable designs. The three big ones being Short Stroke, Long stroke, and Gas Expansion while having a rotating bolt. Most recoil designs aren't used in new models, neither is the tilting bolts in the actions(Roller delayed blowback may be an exception, haven't heard from lever delayed blowback).

Are they the pinnacle? No
Has anything came a long that would justify spending the millions to phase out the rifles, purchase, and retrain troops on the new service weapon? Nope.

No.
Reasons why AK's suck:
7.62x39 is inaccurate

reasons why AR's suck:
top charging
direct impingement
buffer tube
5.56x45

Features that would be featured in the pinnacle of rifle design:
Cobalt Kinetic's auto-drop-empty-magazines and auto-close-bolt-on-fresh-magazines
quick change barrels
6.5 Creedmoor
other features similar to the RA XCR

>>30297808
>I dont have guns

>>30297808
>Cobalt Kinetic's auto-drop-empty-magazines and auto-close-bolt-on-fresh-magazines
Is that when the magazine automatically drops out when the last round is fired? If thats the case, then its a shit idea, soldiers would be dropping their mags everywhere instead of putting them back into a pouch and theyd lose them all.

>>30297808
>7.62x39 is inaccurate
Knowing this little about guns and ammo. Lol

>>30297723
>Are the AR and AK the pinnacle of rifle design?
No, firearm design has been a mature technology since the beginning of the cold war. And while there's guns I think are better than either the AR or AK, the differences are small enough that my/your opinions probably have far more to do with personal preferences when it comes to features, rather than said gun being objectively better.
>>30297808
>i heard it on the interwebs so it must be true
>the post

>>30297920

> picking up, throwing empty mags back in pouches in combat

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>>30297723
Ahem.

>>30297749
Whats wrong with tilting bolt? Dependence upon receiver strength?