Do helicopters have any real value in Modern Warfare now that

>>30097767
Yes

Why not just put MANPADS on a helicopter?

If you're going to go on another glider is better than helicopter thread again you should seriously contemplate suicide.

>it's another "my ideas are so brilliant why is US Mil so stupid?" thread

>>30097767
Do soldiers have any real value in modern warfare now that bullets are everywhere?

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>>30098246
>Do soldiers have any real value
No.

>>30098062
This.

These threads are getting really cringey as of late.

If only the top military minds and strategists in the US military were as intelligent as the anons of /k/ - Weapons.

>>30097767
A weapons system doesn't have to have perfect 100% survivability in order to be useful in battle. Acceptable losses are a thing.

Even with portable anti-air weapons, helicopters are still fare deadlier than they are vulnerable.

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They're building APS for helicopters.

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>>30097767

Attack helicopters are used like flying tanks. They can take advantage of the terrain better than any other flying asset.

It's a damn shame the Apache didn't make it... it really, really is.

Also, I know attack helos kick ass from my training in Desert Strike, pic related.

>>30098295

The average human life is allegedly worth around 7 million. Soldiers are worth millions more.

>>30098649

Very true, but the more survivability the better. Equipment should be durable. One of the reasons I like A-10. It's not meant to fly very long in contested airspace, but after air superiority is achieved there's no better plane. Yet.
>muh F16
It can't lose an engine and fly home. A10 can.
>muh F35
Yea it'll be glorious but it's not ready yet.

>>30098934
>that prick with the fucking rocket launcher
>not as bad as a Rapier, but still
Man I nostalgiad hard

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>>30099043
>Mission 2
>Land
>pick up POWs
>ZSU randomly spawns and rolls up to shoot at you even though it wasn't there when you checked your map BEFORE picking up POWs
>Die

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>>30097767
What is CMWS and how does it work?

The two little dots under the side windows are a godsend. The forward one detects radar, the back one detects the rocket plume on launch and automagically dispenses flares.

>>30098876
>just fuck my payload capacity up senpai

MANPADs can't beat Choppers, when was the last time a helicopter crashed because of a MANPAD? That's right.

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>>30101267

>when was the last time a helicopter crashed because of a MANPAD?

This month actualy:

>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tf3RwwJ00I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tf3RwwJ00I

>>30101267
Mi-8 down in Syria, as far as I remember

>>30101267
Like a couple of weeks ago

>>30101292
>>30101295
>>30101322
Arabs

Doesn't count.

>>30101343

>Moving the goalpost.

lmao

is it true that only the latest kamovs have ejection seats?

ukrainian mi-24:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HJpxxkO2yY

>>30101449
What happened?

>>30101477
nerve gas

>>30097767
Use gliders

>Very fuel efficient
>Hard to hit because of more compact frame
>Cheaper

Helicopters where a mistake since vietnam, much less since now. They always get the pilot killed. Most of the deaths in all wars since nam in the us army have been helicopter pilots

>>30101343
>>30101413
kek

>>30101493
This, helicopters where and will always be shit

>>30098214
I too have hitmarkers irl

>>30098934
>Attack helicopters are used like flying tanks.
No they aren't
Choppers can't take hits

If you are facing an enemy with actual anti-air capabilities, you need to be much more cautious with your choppers.
To the point where they really aren't worth their cost.
Considering you could buy and field several tanks for the price of 1 chopper.

Russia recently withdrew a lot of fixed wing aircraft and brought in choppas in syria.
>http://russia-insider.com/en/su-25-attack-helicopters/ri13814

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>>30097767
>Do helicopters have any real value...

The day a Strela or Stinger can do the following will be the day a MANPAD will remove the value of a helicopter.

>>30097767
Yes.
Just fly incredibly low and spray chaff and flares and IR flashers whenever you're in a bad zone.
Russia's been crushing it with old HINDs in Syria, just using them as flying tanks, flying down streets and shit.
Takes good pilots but it's proven effective.

>>30097767
KAT KOBRA KAT

>>30101343
>Turks vs. Kurds
>Arabs