Is it really worth the extra $1,000, /k/? I really want one,

>>30030422
Just get a USP 45. If it was good enough for Vincent it's good enough for you too.

>>30030427
But Solid Snake had a Mk23. And just the overall cool factor. I wanted to get a new gun with my bonus but this would be the most I've ever spent on a handgun.

>>30030452
See if you can hold or try both out at a range first. See of its worth the extra for the MK 23 after that.

If you can wrap your hands around it, it's extremely accurate with an excellent trigger

>>30030452
You're gay if you don't also get the LAM and suppressor, another $2k at least

>>30030422
Get an FNX45 tactical. Best 45 on the market, fuck that overpriced hunk of 80s shit.

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>>30030422
If it has a polymer frame then take your business elsewhere and buy something with an alloy frame that's actually worth those prices.
H&K fucks the civilian market up the ass anyway so you'd be better off.
All you're buying is a plastic frame, gold lettering, and HK on the box & slide.

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In all honesty just grab a USP .45 tactical.

>>30030422
How would a Mk23 in 10meme be?

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>>30031643
>How would a Mk23 in 10meme be?
Fucking amazing...
Never once has it crossed my mind that a Mark 23 chambered in 10mm is what I NEED.
Wonder how much a gunsmith would charge...

>>30030728
>>30030728
Poorfag Defense Force already on location, I see.

OP, if you want it, get it. It's the most overbuilt pistol in history and you will never have buyers remorse over the quality.

>>30030728
You can find them on armslist/gunbroker for like $1400 and there's literally no better pistol on the market in that price range. Or any price range really

>>30031769
Fuck gunbroker. Wants me to send a copy of my ID to make an account. I thought the whole ID thing was for the FFL.

>>30031811
I don't use gunbroker for that reason either but they're there

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>>30031751
>>30031769
Tell me something.
What the fuck can the Mark 23 do that a Kahr, Glock, Rock Island, or even a Hi-Point can't? Can it magically make the shooter shoot something better than .45 acp?
Does it absorb every bit of recoil til there's none left?
Can it make the owner a pro marksman over night?
Sorry if I'm sounding like a douche but I don't see the point of this particular firearm.
Used to own one myself and once I got over my "honeymoon" phase & 1000 rounds later, I realized that it's no different than any other polymer framed .45 on the market and that I was now $1500 short in my bank account. To be entirely honest it felt like a heavy, giant plastic toy in my hand with a few bells & whistles that weren't all that special. Maybe if at least the frame wasn't made of polymer I would have at least considered the idea of keeping it for what it could have been worth.
Seriously, gun manufacturers that make their firearm frames out of polymer really need to pass the savings onto the customer. The Mark 23 in my opinion should be about as much $1000... Maybe even less.

But hey! If OP wants one, then he should give it a shot.

>>30031905
Because it looks cool. Retard.

>>30031905
It's literally the most proven reliable handgun ever. That why it's $1500. Tons and tons of R&D went into making it the most reliable, accurate and indestructible pistol ever. Just because something is polymer doesn't mean it should be less. Polymer isn't a money-saving measure, it's for weight. If you're going to knock something, at least admit upfront you're biased about something you knew about the pistol before you bought it.

Interesting fact about the Mark 23: the number "23" designation refers to the number of magazines the test gun #1 fired before its first malfunction. So basically after every 23rd clip the gun needs to be detail stripped and the cosmoline has to be re-done.

>>30031733
>>30031643
Stupid. You can just do a USP in 10mm

Mk23 is for shooting 45 super like it's goddamn .22lr

>>30031979
Want to know how I know you're full of shit?

>>30032002
You can shoot .45 super out of the USP pretty well too

>>30031905
I mostly want it over the USP for the extra cool factor and MGS. Also I just got an excess of money.

>>30031979

Nice. I love gun trivia!

>>30031956
Dude, I'm still an H&K fanboy and in no way am I biased.
Like I said, "...but I don't see the point of this PARTICULAR firearm."
I'm fairly positive at this point in the gun industry production age that polymer is FAR cheaper to produce and manufacture than steel or any other alloys out their on the market. It's literally just pouring melted "refined" plastic into a mold.

>>30032014
If I had the money and time I would have totally loved to find a flashlight/laser module for the rail and go through the legal process of getting a suppressor for it.
Might even go as far as to stalk Kojima and David Hayter until they signed the backdrop of the frame case I'd mount it in.

>>30032058
Have you ever personally seen a durability difference between poly and metal?

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>>30030422

I got one. And yes, yes it is worth the price.

Try to find a used one.

I love mine.

>>30032058
>It's literally just pouring melted "refined" plastic into a mold.
This statement alone shows that you know absolutely nothing about plastic molding.
Shut the fuck up.

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>>30030422
get one, you wont regret it

Unbeknownst to most owners, the Mark 23 accepts both traditional .45acp ammunition as well as small .25 caliber beretta pistols.

Simply place the preferably loaded beretta pistol in the Mark 23's chamber and close the slide. The pistol will automatically fire itself out of the Mark 23's barrel and will simultaneously fire its .25 caliber payload at a combined speed of 4500 feet per second. The resulting wound cavity is nothing short of devastating.

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>>30031979
>>30032406

This fucking nig.

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>>30030422
Just get a Glock 40
>half the price
>more stopping powah
>weighs MORE than the mark 23 when loaded
>it's a brick. mark 23's a brick
>shoots 10mm feels like 9mm
>can mount optic
>left over money for holster, ammo, and other goodies
>problem solver
>helps you blend into da hood

>>30030452

Solid Snake also had a USP on the Tanker.

>>30032603
How does your 40 like those HSM rounds? My 29 hates them.

Ballistics aren't that great either i've read.

>>30032603
I passed over one of these recently to pick up a CZ-75 in 9mm. Thinking about picking up an AK or one of these next because I have little to no impulse control when it comes to buying funs.

Not OP, but If i am running suppressed, should I get usp tactical or fnx tactical?

>>30032635

I personally lean towards the USP, but honestly, that's a bit of bias. I think there is fewer things sexier on this planet than a USP Tactical with an Osprey

But honestly, the FNX is a fine pistol as well. However... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdTsFB1ejo8

>>30032616
40 handles them and most 10mm rounds (hot or not, cheap or pricey) exceptionally well. I would personally would rather have Buffalo Bore though and your 29 might rather have them too.

>>30032668
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdTsFB1ejo8
what the fuck

>>30032603
I don't have anything against glocks, but I really do want to get the Mk23 or a USP.

>>30032707

The polymer of the magwell gets flexible when it gets really hot. Honestly, it shouldn't be *that* much of a deal because having the magazine in it should give it the structural integrity of negate that, but still.

>>30032694

Yeah my 29 is fine with BB hard cast 200grain.

I use 180 grain sig vcrown for HD and it cycles those just fine as well.

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>>30032714
I might go for a USP compact 9mm once I get my paycheck in! You should go for that Mk23 and shoot it enough for the both of us

>>30032714
Get the USP. Love mine. Mark 23 is a hype gun. I would get an mk23 if I had fuck you money. I carry a USP every day

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>>30030422
Get a USP9 and stick an Insight M2 on it, that is, if you can find one.

>>30032824

Nobody wants to shoot an anemic round though.

>>30032847
>9mm HPs
>Not more than enough to kill anything that moves
Alright there, buddy. But, I am getting a .45 soon so I shouldn't talk.

>>30032824
my usp9 is my fucking bae. I shoot it better than any gun in my collection other than my 1911. I stick it my ass sometimes it's awesome. rapid fire is so fun with that gun and it makes me feel like a better shooter.

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>>30032847
Sick 9mm bash, bro!
have an image macro that supports your opinion!!

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>>30032881
>I stick it my ass sometimes it's awesome

>>30032881
>bae
Get out.

>>30030422
I got mine used at my LGS. It's an excellent handgun that shoots like a stick of butter. I've always wanted the LAM, but it's pretty goddamn hard to find.

So I got the Tokyo Marui airshit replica. I've got to say that Tokyo Marui makes great copies of weapons and accessories, and the LAM works great for what it is. It's an excellent quality airshit replica, but it is mediocre when compared to the real thing.

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Track down a USP Expert or Elite. All the long-barrel goodness of the Mk 23, but less huge.

>>30033101
>shoots like a stick of butter
I've never heard this before. Elaborate?

>>30031905
Dude, it's offensive, bruh. Do you even offense? I bet you defense like a pussy.

>>30031811

I never had to do this, But havent used my account in years.

If i use gun broker again will i have to do this?

>>30033349
No idea, but I know I wont. There's a number of reasons as to why I or anyone else shouldn't have to send a photocopy of my ID to them.

>>30033135
I really fucking like the Elite. I want an Expert but only the 40 and 45 are on the roster (fucking California). They had 9mm Experts on sale for $1100 last month and I couldn't buy one

>>30033152
It's so goddamn smooth to shoot, like butter.

>>30030422
Go ahead and buy it, its your money

>>30030422
Do it now. Mk23s are gonna go for machine gun money once HK goes out of business, so even if you end up not liking it you'll be able to flip it for a decent profit.

>>30035380
>once HK goes out of business
Kek

>>30030452
He also used a USP9 in MGS2 and a Springfield 1911 in MGS4.

>>30032328
You put the bullets in backward.

>>30031905

>What the fuck can the Mark 23 do that a Kahr, Glock, Rock Island, or even a Hi-Point can't? Can it magically make the shooter shoot something better than .45 acp?

Yes. The Mark 23 is in fact capable of shooting .45 Super stock. It can also shoot fuckawesome .460 Rowland if you get swap the barrel. And if you think an awesome and somewhat uncommon gun like the Mark 23 won't appreciate in value after HK inevitably discontinues them, just because it has a polymer frame,look no further than the VP70.

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>>30031979
>People will fall for this.

>>30035931
This post has put the MK23 on my One Day List. .460 Rowland out of that sexy beast? Holy shit.

I'm doing it, I love my USP 45 and won't settle for a glock for a big 10mm hand-cannon. I'm getting the USP Expert .40 and converting it to 10mm.

How much will that cost? Anyone done something like that?

>>30036151
10mm Auto cartridges are too long to fit in a 9mm/.40S&W frame, so such a conversion would probably cost as much as a whole new gun and then some.

>>30036199

I've read that you need a new barrel, new magazines, an 18lb recoil spring, and the ejection port needs to be lengthened. That shouldn't be too crazy, right?

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>>30036264
That sounds like what you'd need if you were converting a .45. Again, 10mm Auto cartridges are too long to fit in the magwell of a gun designed for .40S&W.

>>30036326

Well, I can get a .45 instead. I'm coming into a lot of money and want to get my yearly gun purchase a little early. Wish H&K adopted 10mm.

>>30035595
Kek

>>30036339
While you're at it, convert it to .460 Rowland instead of 10mm Auto. All you'll need is a new barrel.

>>30030452
If you are getting the Mk 23 solely because of Snake, you better be willing to shell out even more money for the LAM too

Suppressor too

>>30036402
Not the sole reason. I also don't own anything in .45.

>>30036416
I know that feel bro.
I just got a boy job last month, so I'm clearing out some debts before I buy a FuddyFive.

>>30036591
*Big boy job
FFS, I still haven't un-fucked my sleep schedule.
Went from working 3:30 to 1 to 8-5 and I still ain't used to going to bed after 8pm.

>>30030422
OP, I want one as well. But seriously, unless you intend on carrying this thing through many month long survival trips you're better off with a USP or HK45. The Mark 23 is great and it's testing record is impressive but the USP will match it on reliability. If you're for the accuracy then there's USP expert/match variants with longer barrels. They're also as big as a desert eagle, I can post a picture tomorrow of a size comparison if you care.

Also note that the information you find online about the Mark 23 being used by various U.S. special forces isn't accurate anymore, most of them collect dust in the armory in favor of Sigs and even Glocks.

>>30033382
>Experts on sale for $1100 last month and I couldn't buy one
Fuck me that sucks I missed that.

i got to shoot one a few months ago. it was neat and fun. its a big, bad motherfucker. that being said, i truthfully cannot say if its worth the current price. vs the usp? i dont think its worth double the price.
just another anons opinion

>>30036611
I know that feel. I keep getting tossed around between day and night shift. Doesn't help when the shifts can be from 9-15 hours.

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>>30036613
>They're also as big as a desert eagle, I can post a picture tomorrow of a size comparison if you care.
got your back

>>30036662
interesting. ive never thought to compare the two

>>30036635
Shit, that sucks. I'll be glad when I get out of the probationary period and get my full pay. Currently working for 2/3rds of my agreed upon wage for 90 days. Which is still better than what I was getting being a retail supervisor.
There are many funs in my future, no more saving for half a year just to drop on a $500 dollar gun.

>>30036730
Fucking hated retail. Even with the current shit, I'm treated way better in the Army than I ever was working retail. Plus, it's fairly easy to save money.

>>30036761
The difference is night and day, funny thing is I can guarantee you 100% that you have handled something that I have had a hand on, army related of course.

>>30030422
Fuck that, just get a p226 in .357

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>>30036899
10mm is a meme caliber, and 357Sig is just a forced meme caliber.
OUT OUT OUT

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>>30037025

>that pic

>>30035931
Where would you get the barrel for .460?

>>30031811
I never had to do that...

>>30036391

Muh meme caliber

I might just do that, it makes more sense

>>30030452
As much as I love the Mk23 from an engineering perspective, it's not worth it.

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yes. HK is worth the hype, as much as poorfags and sigfags will tell you otherwise.

i would get one but i have 12 year old boy hands so i had to buy the uspc

let me add, sigs are garbage and heavy. theres no reason why your fuck ugly, 19th century ass looking guns should come in a bag because theyre so soaked in oil because your finish is garbage.

>>30030452
Go ahead. Be THAT GUY. The autist who spent a ton of cash on a gun because of a videogame but still cant shoot worth a damn. The "oooh" factor from others wears off after 30 seconds and after they will just judge you based on your poor shooting.

>>30031956
Ok no guns, why dont you go play with your airsoft toys while reading wikipedia posts about guns.

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>>30030531
I have a FNX 45 Tactical and the MK23 is definitely sexier.

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>>30030422

Too big and expensive, get a USP for now.
Good enough for him, good enough for you.

>>30038866
>but still can't shoot worth a damn
Someone's projecting

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>>30039857
He has a fucking point, dude.
Once you get over the initial WOW factor then it's going to occur to you that you now have another gun that you have to practice with but good luck justifying training with it because in the end it's far too impractical for civilian OC & CC. Hell, even the military doesn't really care much for it's size/weight and probably don't even have it in their inventory any more.
Plus in the end you'll be paying a ton more for bulk .45 acp or super to practice with.
Unfortunately In the end the Mark 23 is nothing but a range queen and gun jewelry in every sense of the word.

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>>30030422
it'll be expensive, but unless you feel like dropping $4k+ for a complete package it probably won't be worth it to you. the Mark 23 by itself is a very accurate gun, but it's by such a small margin that it may as well not be. most of the money went into making it largely "bomb-proof" and very difficult to damage or stop working. for a range queen, that's pointless.

>>30031979
Mark 23 derives from the Navy Mk 23 designation. It is the replacement for the Mk 22, a S&W semi-auto pistol nicknamed "Hush Puppy".

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>>30032824
i've always liked the UTL. it fits the pistol very well - and fitted acecssories always look nicer IMHO.

>>30036662
the slide is overly large. the grip is less than 1mm larger than the USP.

>>30040207
nofunallowed.png

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>>30038866
>>30040207
Do not listen to these posters. They are both poor and soulless, not actual gun enthusiasts.

>>30030422
If you're looking to shoot lot of .45 Super, maybe.

>>30030531
The FNX is probably more practical for the average person, but
>muh .45 Super

>>30030728
I'm sorry but do you have any familiarity with the Mk.23?
It's expensive for a good reason and probably the most reasonably priced gun in their lineup based on the value.

>>30031643
No, think bigger
>.460 Rowland
>10mm Magnum
>.45WinMag

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>>30030422
Every penny

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>>30043078

>>30041264
>>30041741
Found the noguns

>>30030422

I certainly would, after all as far as we know there has never been a more reliable pistol

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>>30043078

>>30043078
Welp you nigged that rig right up didn't you.

>>30030422
looks kinda like a hi point to me

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>>30030422
Hell yeah dude Bruce Willis blew up a village with one.

>>30043192
>>30043377
Them black guns scare the normies.

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I traded up from a usp tactical, there is definitely a difference in quality, trigger, and felt recoil between the two. only shitty thing is it takes special snowflake mags and thread pitch.

>>30032716
Because i haven't tested it would all polymer pistols be that flexible or does FN just go squishy squishy?

>>30044471
I think it's a problem unique to the FNX. I carried a Mk 23 in Iraq and the heat/sun did nothing to the polymer.

>>30044617
>I carried a Mk 23 in Iraq
[citation needed]

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>>30045757

>>30045781
which 1 r u tho

>>30035931

VP70 hasn't appreciated; it's went down if you account for inflation.

>>30045781
How come some of you are carrying Berettas and some Mk23s?

>>30043078

what kind of laser is that? I want one

>>30045942
one that only fits certain HKs.

>>30045781
>>30045781
>>30045781
What unit is this? I ask because outside of muh sealz I thought the mark 23 stayed in the armory.

>>30035931
I picked up a VP70 for under $500 last month, in box with two mags.

Usually they're around $6-800 though, but that doesn't exactly make for investment-grade firearm just because they're discontinued HKs.

>Though that could be mostly because people hate them. Trigger is indeed as bad as they say.

>>30045828
Smiley white guy, bottom left.

>>30045938
We had what we had.

>>30046001
10th SFG(A) GSC SIGDET. One of the batts wanted more M9s, so they traded our company for their Mk 23s. And USASOC can get .45 downrange just fine. There's an M11 in there, too.

Are there any USPs with rounded slides?

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>>30047233

The p2000 is really similar to a USP compact and it has a 'more rounded' slide than the USP.

Great guns. Improved on the USP in some ways.

Not my pic, P2000 on the right.

>>30047318

Is there any handgun that has a completely rounded slide? Like the opposite of a glock

>>30047625

I guess 1911s are kind of close to a perfect half circle top end. I'd imagine a lot of the browning designs are the same.

>>30047625
1911, Hi-Power

>>30047625
Makarov, PP/PPK, Bersa

>>30047663
>>30047667
>>30047680

Thanks. I like the look of rounded slides a lot more.

>>30043256
Shut your cockhole you joyless cunt, you probably hate bumpstocks and pistol caliber carbines too.