AK General /akg/

>>29841764
I used to like these generals...get ready for Arsenal discussions...

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>>29841764
niggers.

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>>29841725
I actually recently sold it off to an anon after having it sit around in a parts bin for over a year.

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>>29841764
I like how your mom used to lock you in your room with one of these....

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What's up

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>>29841792
Oh that was just a hook lock because I kept getting out of my crib and fell down the stairs once.

>>29841764
Okay so Arsenals are apparently shit, and Wasrs have problems, and Century AKs apparently suck, and apparently DDI Aks had some obscure problem....


So where does someone interested in a new production AK look?

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>>29841764
Holy fuck the Arsenal slings are short as fuck.
Top to bottom
>Bulgarian surplus AK-74 sling
>East German surplus AKM sling
>Arsenal sling that came with my SLR-104fr

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>>29841843
WASRs, DDIs, and Arsenals are fine. Ignore the memes. Any company can have lemons. Avoid Century made AKs though.

>>29841843
Arsenals are fine, just don't get one that was part of the fucked up batch. Fuck it pisses me off sometimes how much shit gets over blown by you fucking autistic fucks sometimes.

>>29841843
I like my arsenal, there's nothing wrong with wasrs. The others suck though

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>>29841843
A WASR a year ago when they were sub $500
Or just hold your nose and spend $600+ on one now knowing it's still the best value in the AKM market. Get a laminate furniture set with dong.

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>>29841837
dont lie, the 4 square-shaped holes tell all.

anything you want to talk about, anon?

>>29841843
If you really don't want to gamble on an Arsenal then just get a parts kit, decent barrel, and have a professional build it for you. WASRs are fine though if you don't want to go through all that.

>>29841862
Nice sheets.

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I've got a black (10) bayonet coming in for the rifle. I thought about shelling out the money for a proper plum Soviet bayonet but then it'd just be a wallhanger collector's piece and I wouldn't be able to goof off and stab shit with it like what I want to do with this common (10).

Maybe someday, ~$250 for a bayonet is on the cheaper end of bayonet prices compared to the bayonets I used to collect.

>>29841965
Would you happen to be ordering one of the used ones from Atlantic? Because I have one coming in tomorrow myself. Pretty excited tbqh

>>29842020
>>29841965
tell me what serial# it is electropenciled. If you are the 1 out of 10000 winner, I'll buy it off you for more than you bought it for.

>>29841965
AK74 bayonets don't interchange with AKM bayonets because of the muzzle brake, right?

>>29842020
No, I didn't. I really thought about it because they're only like $50 but I just got a new (10) on Ebay because it was only $20 more for a factory new bayonet, even if it isn't Russian.

I'm always paranoid about "fair" condition. Atlantic is great and I have 100% confidence that they wouldn't sell beat to shit products without honestly describing it as beat to shit, but $20 to go from "fair" to "new" was what sold me.

If I have a WASR 2, what needs to be done to have a threaded muzzle for a 74 style brake?

>>29842033
AKM bayonets fit on the AK-74 standard muzzle brakes just fine. They just look like abortions.

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>>29842056

Here's a plum bayonet I was watching on Ebay. Two and a half days to go, six bids at $56. Who knows, maybe it'll go for a little less than what they normally go for. I'm not gonna be bidding on it, I just want to watch what it goes for but if any of you guys are interested it mite b kool.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/371613381901?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

>>29842029
Serial number on the (10) bayonet is 3610

>>29842070
New fsb

>>29842056
>>29842070
It bugs the shit out of me that they don't import these, nor any of the other WASR variants, only the WASR 10. Fucking Cugir fags, RRRREEEEEEE

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>>29842163

Can anyone tell me their experiences with dealing with IronWood Designs? They seem pretty legit and as talented as can be, but I thought I'd run it by you guys.

Also post AK pepes.

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>>29842258
ahem... I'll start...

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>>29842163
>>29842258

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>>29842267
please pretty please I need my pretty purple plum pepe

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>>29842258

Think the recent ur models would be fine since I assume they make fewer of those?

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>>29841871
>sometimes hahaha

>>29842258
Good stuff but be prepared to wait a few months

For those of you with Arsenals, what is the prefix of your serial number? Rob Ski and one other guy on youtube have SLR-107s starting with XM55 and both of them have the bubbling paint.

I have as SLR 104 with a serial prefix of AB54 (2014 manufacture) and I have had zero issues with bubbling paint or anything like that after magdump after magdump of 7N6. There was a time when I was putting a tin of 7N6 though the rifle every range trip (as I had started buying 7N6 years before I even had a rifle chambered in 5.45 because it was only like $0.11 a round) and the paint on the barrel and gasblock on my gun look perfect minus usual wear and tear from banging the rifle around.

Would it be more painful to be shot by 7N6 or Federal Fusion 7.62x39?

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>>29842351
>months
what

>>29842351
>sometimes hahaha
Well I did enjoy the shitposting with the RAS-47. Also the DDI bantz. This whole Arsenal thing is just so out of proportion though, its insane

>>29842351
This. Also, I'm not really sure how it's better than surplus unless you want custom wood types not used on military AKs. That said, it's pretty awesome to r

Are those russian 7.62 and 5.45 supressors imported or are they one of those cool things i will never get?

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>>29842365
My nigga.
>tfw I bought it last 2015

Anyone know the supposed issues DDI aks were having? as far as i can tell they are the best quality for the money, but, like with any firearm, you need to make sure to inspect it for cants and other out of spec parts

>>29842467
>shitty barrels
>a bunch of canted shit
>non-matching parts kit used for builds
Hmm

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>>29842444
>>29842365
>fellow AB54s
muh niggaz

>>29842499
you need to get laid more

>>29842499
>non-matching parts kit used for builds
What's the big deal if it headspaces fine?

>>29842499
Proofs? I've tried looking asking, but all I can find are too-tight mag wells when the rifles first started shipping

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Should I be worried about minor mushrooming of the bit of the bolt carrier that resets the trigger on my vepr 54r? Could excess wear be caused by using heavy ball 54r vs light ball? Also, what muzzle device should i get after I remove the pinned muzzle nut? I kind of want something functional but also nicer looking.

pic related

>>29842513
:^)
>>29842516
Because it's fucking disgusting.
>>29842524
Just fucking google it.

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>>29842365
AC zero issues

>>29842385
Most of his stuff is made to order

>>29842420
Never get

>>29842547
>made to order
Well sure but I didn't think it would take fucking months

>>29842560
>Well sure but I didn't think it would take fucking months
Then you thought wrong.

>>29842543
>Just fucking google it.
Just fucking read my post. I did, and all I could dig up was the mag well issue then one guy endlessly bitching while posting absolutely no proof

>>29842589
Then fuck off and don't worry about it if you're too stupid to find the dozens of posts and pictures.

Would the RAS47 be a decent gun if the bolt were replaced with a milspec bolt?

>>29842597
No. The bolt isn't the reason why the headspace on the rifles have been walking out, nor the sole reason they've been exploding

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>>29842444
>AB 54
Me too I love my 104 zero issues

>>29842563
I guess I can wait a few months. If anything it means he is getting alot of business/takes his work seriously. Is it really worth it?

>>29842351
Zasta! My man. I've been eyeballing the SA-26 parts kits on Royal Tiger imports; full kit+torch cut receiver and 5 mags for $49. Thought about picking two up, are they an easy build? My buddy is a talented welder, he did an Uzi and is almost done doing a reweld on a VZ-61.

>>29842632
Depends on what kind of furniture you're ordering. If you have a MAK-90 with a slant cut receiver, a new milled gun, or you want a specific combination of features, yeah it's worth it. What kind of AK do you have and what do you want out of it?

>>29842596
>dozens of posts and pictures
the only thing i have come across is one guy who thought his ak had a bolt hold open and was complaining about slight canting ad machining marks. any proof would be welcome, rather than just blowing hot air on the net

>>29842351
zasta senpai let me pay u the big bucks to build my DPM parts kit, i crave the dinner plate goodness

>>29842691
I have a WASR-10. I guess I don't really know what you mean when you ask I want out of it...
Just a really good looking rifle that I can take out and shoot all the time. Something still handy when SHTF and something I can pass along to my kids

>>29842727
Dude just refinish your wood
>spend 1/4 of value of gun on wood that looks slightly better
>on a wasr

>>29842736
my WASR furniture is crap. I'm okay spending money on furniture that will last until well after I'm dead and buried

>>29842766
There are people literally paying money for beat to shit surplus battlefield pickup furniture that I guarantee you is even more beat to shit than your furniture and that stuff is still 100% serviceable.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill. If you want to drop hundreds on fancy furniture then go ahead, but you can literally refinish it yourself for less than $50 and have a beautiful set for considerably cheaper.

>>29842787
I don't mean crap as in beat up, I mean it's completely inferior wood

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>>29842802
Just order a set from apex
>pic related my wasr

>>29842070
FUCK I WANT ONE

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>>29842560
That's what happens when lots of people want your products and you're a small shop.

>>29842656
Shouldn't be a problem especially if your buddy can weld a vz61 receiver. Unfortunately if you can't do your own bolt work you'll need to pay to have it done. This place has a bunch of useful parts http://re-mil.com/parts.html

>>29842713
I can't legally do that sadly

>>29842929
If i buy that 9mm barrel, what other conversion work would need to be done? Do the 7.62 tok mags work for 9mm?

>>29842140
In all likelihood, the WASR-10 is the only variant still being made.

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>>29842034
>He didn't buy them when they were $20 from Rguns

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Convince me not to get an AK-74 and copy this AKOU build.

>>29842929
Not a legal gunsmith or something like that?

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>>29842972
this brake?

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>>29842972
this plum polymer?

>>29842984
>being this new

>>29842972
The fagpul handguard looks like cancer.

>>29843007
not really experienced with parts kits builds, so very new

>>29843029
The ATF determined that completing someone else's build, even off a 100% receiver, is a no-no.

>>29842972
I already told you, that LHG is dildos.

>>29843043
so how would that affect companies like SMG guns, maybe one of these days they will be back to building kits, is that considered illegal?

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>>29842970
I bought mine for $25 from Circle 10.

>8733

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>>29842992
Not a fan.

>>29843005
Really dislike plum furniture. If I'm going to get a "modern" 5.45 AK of any kind I'd probably look for some kind of 105 clone.

>>29843013
I think it looks alright when combined with the wood and bakelite.

>>29843045
Same as above :^

>>29843061
They have a license to manufacture. Zasta doesn't have an FFL, let alone the proper type.

>>29843076
>Really dislike plum furniture
well aren't you a fickle little bitch

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Does anyone know if they make a J Comp for 7.62 caliber?

Anyone have experience with the Surefire comps for 7.62 AKs?

>>29843079
ah, thats what i was curious about, thanks

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>>29843085
>Fickle
Do you know what that word means? Because I don't think you know what that word means. I've never really been a fan of plum. There are some nice looking plum sets, but they're pretty few and far between.

>>29843111
pretty sure you are the only person here who does not want a plum rifle

>>29842943
From what I've heard maybe changing some spring lengths, but yes mags will work with both.

>>29842984
Yeah.
>FFL one day

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>>29843143
Yeah? I'm fine by that. Everyone here can want a plum rifle, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I don't think they look all that good.

>>29843152
interesting. This will need to be looked into... a 9mm carbine like that could be built pretty cheap

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>>29842351
LHG on that M70 looks comfy as fuck, but that masmatched furniture tho...

>>29842530
No, BCG tail peening is pretty common in AKs. You'll get faggots sometimes claiming it means parts have been improperly heat-treated (see: NPAPs last year) but it's caused by the difference in the contour of the hammer and the contour of the boat tail being different and coming to a compromise. Often hammers are harder than bolt carriers also which contributes.

Basically unless it's fucking with the function of the rifle or other components are getting chewed up don't worry about it.

>>29842083
>bayonet is 3610
Congratulations, you're not a winner!

>>29842258
stripped down milsurp thats stained with 100% no-additive tung oil looks better, and original.

>>29842970
what other numbers you got?

>>29843163
This isn't /arg/ faggot, no one here wants to see the same pics of ur steelwool-polished shitturd posted for the upteenth time. Also, no one gives a fuck about your opinion. Go sell your trenchcoat and pubes growing on your head to fund that abomination you want to copy.

>>29843286
>stripped down milsurp
where can I find some?

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>>29843168
Plus all the semi parts but it's still definitely worth it for a rare and neat semi subgun

>>29843246
I'll get a matching lower sometime. Sory for triggering you

>>29843286
I like how his gun looks

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>>29843286
>steelwool-polished
Good meme, friend :^

>Also, no one gives a fuck about your opinion.
He says, spewing his unsolicited opinion.


>>29843327
Is that a Strike One? How is it?

>>29843327
are yours in 7.62 or 9mm?

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>>29842444
>>29842506

>tfw have a SLR-107FR XM55 Heresy Edition™ meltagun

I field stripped the rifle and checked for canting or parts that aren't fitted nicely, as Robski found on his XM55. Luckily everything on my rifle seems to be put together straight and tight.

Hopefully when I run a few mags through this thing next week the paint won't melt.

>>29843403
It's not melting, it's boiling off and bubbling, which would suggest that they didn't degrease and take off the oil before painting/enamel

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Does anyone lube their piston? It seems weird to me a part with so much friction would work better without any lube.

>>29843456
I've never heard of doing that, but you make a good point. Gas might cook it right out though

>>29843311
APEX has surplus dong sets. ask again after you get it, and i'll tell you how to stain it.

>>29843327
>I like how his gun looks
look at his retard-mark on his RSB and tell me you still like how it looks....

>>29843456
Excessive fouling is the result.

See the inside of your gas tube, how it has those star-shaped bits that stick out? Those are the contact surfaces on the gas tube. It's a small contact surfaceso the gas tube can slip on them with minimal friction, without having to use lube that can potentially accelerate fouling.

At least that's what I assumed those star folds were for.

>>29843486
>so the gas tube can slip on them with minimal friction

Meant to say gas piston. Sorry, it's midnight and I need sleep.

>>29842365

Mines XM-55 But I doubt I'm ever really going to dump more than one mag at a time so I'm not even worried.

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>>29841764
Jolteon is the superior Electric type.

>>29843365
Yep, it's awesome (if you have giant hands)

>>29843367
Two finished in 7.62 and two 9mm in progress

>>29843485
> omg it has a scratch...
I like how it looks

God damnit /k/

I just want an AK-12 ... Is that so much to ask? Just a simple default military rifle, no fancy optics or overly expensive accessories

Just somehow a crate of rifles and ammo mysteriously disappear from some forgotten russian armory, and appear on my doorstep

Has anyone else reported problems from the XM-55 batch?

>>29843673
The big ones are Rob and that other guy on Youtube who bubbled his finish with just 3 mag dumps.

>>29843403 here, I hope to guinea pig my AK soon.

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>>29843672
You know, if you feel that it's a passion worth pursuing. Why not make it yourself? You can capitalize on. The civilian market too while you're at it.

>>29843711
I'm shit with tools

Most complicated thing I've done was reloads and that was because I had the press

>I am like a monkey with a rock

>>29843456
There's really not all that much contact between the piston and the gas tube. Lubing it would only really cause more gunk to build up on the piston.

>>29843666
Interesting; it seems to me like it might be better for people with smaller hands, but that's based on the looks of the gun more than anything. I've heard the muzzle flip is ridiculously low due to the bore axis being mere millimeters above the hands.

I asked this in the previous treads already which what optic would be acceptable in order to be "purist compliant "

Is there a list of all the slav optics somewhere?

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>>29843779

>>29843779

http://russianoptics.net/

>Just watched this
>Wanted to punch my screen every time he says "Still not as quick as an M16"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbcr1lJ2aDw

Anyone know of a way to just strip the finish off my slr-107?

>>29843802
Submerge the parts you want stripped in a solution of 50% bleach and 50% ammonia

>>29843802
Yeh. Start shooting it a bunch

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>>29843802

-Hoppes
-brake cleaner
-paint thinner
-vodka
-urine
-alien urine

>>29843802
>strip everything down
>rent an aircompressor and media blaster
>accept that you'll have a bunch of baking soda or sand all over the fucking place unless you have or make a cabinet
>strip down the finish
>get some engine enamel
>do it yourself

I used industrial grade stripper for now. All I'm getting is purple shit.

>>29843929
That's little bits of the paint senpai.

>>29842140
I need a WASR 3 like a junkie needs H.

>>29843727
Me too, but you never you till you try.

>>29843727
Also, practicing helps.

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>>29843942

Not sure if you guys can see this but this is what it looks like under the finish. Is this normal? If so I wonder what happened with the other two rifles.

>>29844061
So wait, why are you doing this again?

>>29844082

To see if they painted over rust like people are saying they did. It's pretty much all clean, though I think there was oil along with the finish. I see zero rust though.

5.45x39 mags should cost less.

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>>29844223
Cool, maybe you should do something about it. Or are you too lazy to go anything about the cost of those mags?

>>29844325
What can I do?

>>29844333
You could stop being poor.
If 74 mags popped up cheap, the people who can afford them now would just buy more to horde, and you still wouldn't get any.
So stop being poor, or quit bitching.

>>29844362
>How can I make 5.45x39 mags cost less?
>by having more money
Epic, nice, I like it.

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>>29844223
I agree; its too bad that 5.45 AKs aren't that popular here in the US. Seems like that might be why nobody imports any of the good ones, which means the only reasonably priced 5.45 mags are Crapco shit.

>>29844362
Being poor has nothing to do with thinking that $30-40 for a good magazine is ridiculous, especially when I get AR mags for $2 and AKM mags for like $10.

>>29844365
>Being poor has nothing to do with thinking that $30-40 for a good magazine is ridiculous
Oh, I know. I'm just sick of hearing about it.
Circle 10s should cost $20 but it isn't going to happen, and I don't post about it every thread like a whiny girl.

>>29844381
Point taken, but it doesn't make his point any less valid, just less of a necessary post. That being said, its not like this thread doesn't have it's fair share of those.

>>29844391
Fair enough. But the people selling sell for what the market will bear, and not often any less.
>Shitposting in /akg/
While it does occur, and I do my fair share of it, doesn't mean it should be accepted.
I get called on my shitposts on the regular.
That's what I want, resistance not acceptance.

>>29844364
In theory, it's sound.
>Have more money
>Buy a ton of mags from overseas for cheap-ish
>Sell at minimal profit
>Drop the bottom out of the market
>Market prices are adjusted to the new lower prices.

You've just made 5.45x39 mags cost less.

>>29841843
Norinco the best.
Ah no sorry in USA is banned !

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Bump

>>29842705
let me elaborate, he thought all aks had bolt hold open standard

>>29844365
>tfw my usp compact mags are 40$ a pop

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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=554095164#PIC
Don't slabside mags typically go for over $150? If so I'm buying at least one of these.

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>>29844475
>tfw not burger and can & do own Norinco
feels good mon!
Especially considering it was my low-budget panic purchase.

>>29844061
>taking steel wool to your unfired gun just to see if it's damaged
tippest toppest of keks even the second time.

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>>29841843

Pretty much all of those are fine assuming you're willing to actually take the time and inspect it to make sure it's not a lemon, and do a little research on the rifle you're buying.

Just avoid RAS47s since the furniture and a number of small parts, such as the sights, start to come apart after prolonged shooting.

And definitely avoid IOs unless you have a fucking death wish. The bolts have been shown to catastrophically shear parts off under 50 rounds, and the gun itself is so badly overgassed that the bolt carrier will jump the reciever rails if you remove the recoil buffer.

>>29844061
>yanking the finish off a brand new gun

I mean I appreciate you giving it up in the name of science, and I know it was a shit finish to begin with, but goddamn man.

>>29844111
if they had painted over the rust you'd have just whipped it off in the first place...

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>>29845660
Who say's burgers can't own Norincos?

Just because they're not imported anymore doesn't mean they suddenly vanished. They're easily available secondhand.

>>29845657
No. That's pretty high.
I've seen them fairly regularly at ~$75.
>If so I'm buying at least one of these
Look harder and get a pair for the same price.

>>29844061
Jesus Christ

>>29844061
>Could go shoot his Arsenal
>scrapes the paint off instead

I guess its not like the finish was going to stay on there very long if you did manage to shoot it.

>>29844061
Cerakote it graphite black now.

The barrel looks fine.

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>>29845660
that god-awful buttstock

>>29844061
OP don't listen to the retards, there is nothing wrong with the metal under the finish

it looks like a machined surface on my AK barrels (non rusty ones)

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>>29843815
i see u like chlorine gas

>>29845657
slab sides are 75 on RGUNS

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would you consider this bubba'd? felt like messing around with my vepr before I picking up an actual rpk stock set and I think i like it, just need to figure out if i want a barrel mounted bipod or just install either a rail or a sling swivel screw for one. Also fuck the 23" x39 for not being prethreaded. Had to thread it in 15x1 rh and get a g3 flash hider.

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What the fuck are they talking about?

>>29846046
>>29846248
Oh, interesting. I've seen them pretty high before. Did a new shipment come in or something?

>>29846689
And about whom are they talking?

>>29846712
no clue

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Look what showed up today :)

>>29846677

Not bubba'd per se, just goofy.

>>29846677
Vepr Stocks and forearms look like shit to begin with so I'd say that you've made an improvement.

>>29842972
I really want to know what flashlight mount that is.

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>>29846812
Pretty sure it's Echo 93s Mk65 mount.

http://www.echo93.com/#!product/prd1/4443154061/mk65-light-mount

>>29846812
scout mlok

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>>29846219
Nothing wrong with it.
It's even NATO length

>>29846689

so much AK drama recently. hell, even that SpiveyArms on leddit is getting blasted for some shitty clone build he put out that took 16 months.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ak47/comments/4hy269/east_german_mpiaks74n_by_spivey_arms/

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What should I buy next for my 74 ?
>more mags ?
>ammo?
>bayonet ?
>pic related current collection

What was wrong with taking off some paint dudes. I ended up stripping everything and refinishing it anyways

>>29846955
A companion 5.45 AR15

>>29846955

better sling or more mags.

>>29846976
I already have one in 5.56 and it's my least favorite rifle.

>>29846990
Any recommendation on a better sling ?

>>29846955

More mags. Go for the max combat ammunition load of 22 pounds.

For the M16 that translates to about 22 fully loaded magazines. For a 74 with polymer mags I'd imagine it'd be roughly there, perhaps one or two less.

Then comes more ammo, and spare parts.

>>29847007

blueforce vtac is the best right now

>>29846955
I think you should stop posting the same shitty pics of your minuscule amount of ammo and common mags and thinking it's something special

>oh wow eight magazines
>oh boy a 45 round RPK magazine
>gee whiz 4500 rounds of 5.45

It's a cool rifle and you've got some quality mags and enough ammo to have fun with, but cmon stop posting your babby-tier 5.45 collection every single thread and every time 5.45 is brought up outside of /akg/

>>29847020
Well it should be a baby it's only 5months old.
>also no

>>29846942
See this is the kind of shit that makes me laugh.
Fucking impatient children handing thousands of dollars to some nobody, because they "don't have a year long wait time".
Fuck that noise, there's a good reason Mario at POHF has such a backlog, because he does great work and people know it.

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http://www.sgammo.com/product/surplus/30-round-ak-47-mag-excellent-new-condition-hungarian-military-surplus-steel-magazine

Are these any good? I ordered some and I'm nervous, despite military surplus mags usually being halfway decent.

Also figured it'd be more rational stocking up on these than playing the rare Pepe russian bakelite game.

>>29847061
Most steel ak mags are gtg, Koreans tho can be hit or miss so would avoid

>>29847015
>Recommending Larry Snickers overpriced meme sling.
Toppest kek.

Should have said SPOSN RT-3.

>>29847042

I would never, ever, entrust that much money with someone that is only known on a handful of websites building shit out of his garage. Common sense desu.

>>29847082
>SPOSN RT-3

Oh fuck off. I hate that fat shit myself but that sling is very good. And you just have to look around to get a fair price. It's not hard.

>>29847061
The Hungarian steelies at SG are gtg.
Might need a good cleaning though.

Personally I would've gone with some Yugos from Copes for a few bucks less each, but those are still a good deal.

>>29847092
Yup.
Some people's kids...

>>29847061
Yup they're good

If there's any rust on them just soak them in Coke for a day and then spray paint them

>>29847121
Ha and people drink that shit

>>29846942
>No offense to anyone, but I definitely wouldn't trust a build involving thousands of dollars to some millennial with Reddit cred, who taught himself to build AKs out of his garage a couple of years ago.
Lol. Seeing spivey arms get put on blast in his home turf is making my day. I feel for that guy though, having a $600 EG AK74 barrel get lost in the mail and then having his kit get shit all over would not make me happy.

>>29847143
But honestly if your going to spend that kind of money you should have just overpaid to have a qualified and established gunsmith build it.

>>29847143

Spivey is done for.

>>29847099
Calm down Larry.
Nobody wants you to stroke out.

Seriously though, I've seen quite a few people recommend it, but I've never seen it under $40-$45.
The SPOSN can readily be found at ~$20, so for half the price, one gets a much more versatile sling.

>If you're into that
I personally just use good old surplus slings.
Never failed me.

>>29847184
Ived hiked 40miles+ with the stock sling that came with my slr and it's not bad, but it can start cutting into your shoulder neck region after a while. Dependent on how you have it slung of course.

>>29847161
>>29847177
Yep. The customer really screwed up by not doing his research on who would do the best job. There are plenty of well established AK builders who would have done a great job cloning the EG. I wouldn't trust Spivey to build a Romy G kit let alone even touch one of my babies. Spivey is a Reddit meme and I'm happy to see him finally get exposed. If you can't even smash a rivet properly you have no business selling building services to customers.

>>29847235
Chimps, at the rate you're going, nobody is going to touch your babies period.

But yeah, fuck that Spivy retard.
Hope that kid sues his ass, but that probably won't happen.

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Would you still be angry if you bought an XM55, but it didn't seem to be running into the issues Robski ran into during his video related to bubbling paint, rust, or canting?

That seems to be my current situation, and I'm not exactly pissed, but I'm still pretty damn annoyed that people might use this to try and talk me down in price if I ever chose to sell it in the future.

>"Ehhhh, I hear those ones melt. Knock down the price 200 bucks and I might do a deal."

>>29847255

hes not going to sue him, that would be retarded. he gave him a chance to right the wrongs and Spivey chose instead to dig his own grave. Hes on leddit for fucks sake, how did he not know that his shitty rifle wasn't going to ruin him?

>>29847214
For a hike like that I'd pick up a surplus RPK sling, with the pad.

>>29847143
What do you have against Spivey? I'm not questioning you, I simply don't know much about him.

>>29847270

if the rifle is fine why the hell would you even sell it? stop fucking worrying god damn.

>>29842070
I thought 45 degree gas blocks were really bad for 5.45

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The rail has been installed!
Optics in due time.

>>29847270
>Selling an AKs
What are you, some kind of faggot?

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>>29847295
Nice work, I'm glad you got the rail on.

>>29847286
>>29847299

>not selling an AK to help fund a better AK

C'mon Ivan the Cold War is over, embrace capitalism.

>>29847289

it's actually drilled at 90 degrees but they still used the 45 style.

>>29847329

>not selling AK to buy $3k AR

it's like you don't even want to be gucci

Have everything needed for my 105 clone. Waiting to get my stamp approved. Who do I send it to?

>>29847359
Spivey Arms

:^)

>>29847359
NSA

>>29847313
Yeah, after I took a hammer to it, it went on without a fuss.
Gonna mount an rds on it, still not terribly sure what though.
An aimpoint comp m4 might be what I go for if I get the cash.

>>29847372
I was expecting this. Bahaha

>>29842547
what model is your krinkov? i want to copy you, how do i zasta?

>>29847329
>Being so poor you have to sell an AK to afford a "better" rifle.

Capitalism does have its upsides.
One of them is not having to compromise having just a couple AKs.

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>>29847329

>sell Arsenal in November for 4000 bucks, with the election panic of Hillary getting elected and passing a new, more restrictive AWB being drummed up
>Trump is elected instead
>his first four years leads to the abolishment of the Hughes amendment, 922r, and various arms import bans
>full auto, fully intact, 100% Russian and Chinese AKs hit the market in the 1000 dollar range
>the price of semiautos crashes
>you buy 3 full auto Russian/Chinese AKs and all the bakelite mags and surplus ammo you could ever want

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>>29847380
Wew, I never had to use a hammer but the rail did come with the rifle. It should be easier for you at least now that you got it on the first time.

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>>29847061

They're fine. Maybe you'll get some sweet moonman mags.

One of my favorite things about buying steel surplus mags is looking at the arsenal stamps.

>>29847424
>moonman mags

Holy fuck that's a thing?

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hey /k/. would this be shit? or good?

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/zastava-n-pap-underfolder-detail.html?Itemid=0

Also could I put a regular ak stock on later if I wanted to?

>>29847432
>Also could I put a regular ak stock on later if I wanted to?

Not without swapping the rear trunion, but it can be done I guess

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>>29847465
I just can't decide. This or a wasr. help me

They both have bayonet lugs, right?

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>>29847424

>"They are "sanitized" meaning no proof marks to indicate the manufacturer as is customary with certain export contract sales material."

Damn, I guess no stamps for me.

Also kinda sketchy. These mags could show up anywhere and no one would know when they were imported or where they were manufactured...

>>29842547
How do you like the obzor? I'm stuck between that and the kashtan

>>29847507

Just do the WASR ya cunt. The stock is more comfy.

>>29847523

Obzor a nice. Prism sights are something the Russians are pretty good at.

Avoid Russian red dot sights, the US BTFOs them in that department.

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>>29847395
i want to believe

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>>29846730
Ammo's always glorious to have.

>>29846730

I wonder how that ammo stacks up against regular wolf and silver bear. I'm going on a spending spree next month and I want to pick up the best 5.45 while I can (including some 7n6)

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Does anyone actually do anything with the dinky 10 round magazine their AK comes with? Seems kinda superfluous when you own a few dozen 30 round steel mags.

In fact, does anyone here own sub-30 round mags who doesn't live in some hellhole state that restricts magazine capacity?

The 20 round Hungarian tanker mags seem sex, especially when it simplifies things to 1 box of ammo = 1 mag, instead of the hotdogs-and-buns problem that people run into with normal AK mags.

>>29847078
The 30 rounders are fine, maybe a bit more fragile but nothing to really worry about.

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>>29847601
I bought a 5round norinco for shits (20$)
Has the tightest lock up of any mag in my wasr.
>so cute

>>29847601
I keep my 10 rounder loaded just because why not. I imagine they're useful for benchrest shooting and such.

>>29847601

bench shooting. good for sighting in and target practice. I use 20 round magazines all the time in my AR too.

>>29847255
Hahaha damn
>>29847282
He's a hobby builder who got an FFL. Nothing wrong with that but I'm tired of seeing him get recommended endlessly on Reddit when so many more qualified builders exist. The only thing he really has going for him is that he's young and hip and Internet-relatable. Reddit is such a fucking hugbox which is why he became popular, not because of his build quality. Now he's getting exposed and the only thing he had going for him is being ruined. When I used to go on Reddit the users were always so cringey with how circlejerk-y it was.

>>29847415
It wasn't so terrible. I avoided any damage by using a rag for cushion.
I guess I can rest easy knowing that it'll be tighter than hell?

>>29847532
Even the PK01VS is shit?

I've been on the fence between an Obzor or PK01VS, but if Russian tube optics are shit then maybe the Obzor will be my best bet.

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>>29847601
>>29847624
>>29847629
>Not having a 1rd AK mag

All of you are plebs.

My converted Saiga has a strange feature. You can put it on safe, pull the trigger, and now the trigger is significantly lighter. I didn't know AKs were supposed to have a set trigger. It's a Texas AK trigger.

>>29847432
Just get a wasr. Underfolders only look cool feel shit shit when shooting.

>>29844424
Once again, I totally agree with what you're saying, but I don't consider his post shitposting. Its just a post that doesn't need to be reiterated, which might make it a shit post, but I don't think it's necessarily worth haranguing the guy over.

>>29845660
>>29844475
Its not like we can't own them, they just cost more than they're worth. I could go on GB and get a Type 56 right now, but it'd be $1500 and up, which is way more than a used AK is worth by any standard.

>>29846942
To be fair, looking at the closeups doesn't really give me much faith in that build. Then again, I'm not knowledgeable enough on AK building to tell if anything is really fucked up or if it just looks like shit.

>>29846812
>>29846902
Has you covered. I honestly had no clue either though, thanks.

>>29847270
The answer is simple: don't sell your firearms. I'm sure Arsenal will eventually address the issue, probably, maybe not.

>>29847295
Reading it I was about to ask why you would put a rail on before an optic, then I looked at the photo and it all made sense.

>>29847507
Do you want the more compact rifle that's built more to RPK specs than AK specs? Then go with the NPAP. Do you want a "standard" AKM? Then go with the WASR.

>>29847532
>Obzor is nice
What? The tint on them looks absolutely terrible. If you've got to get an Eastern-made optic it's probably the best choice, but aren't they the same price as an Aimpoint?

>>29847973
What does it matter if they're the same price as an aimpoint?

>>29847512

Ah fuck, didn't see the sanitized part.

>>29847973
>but I don't think it's necessarily worth haranguing the guy over

That's a good word for it.
Ok tripfriend, I'll ease up on the guy when he inevitably posts it again.

>I honestly had no clue either though, thanks
You're welcome.

>>29848045
Looking now they're only $470, which is about $100 shy of what I thought it was. What matters about that is that you can get better optics in the same price range. The Obzor looks cool as fuck, but it's not a $500 optic. An Aimpoint T-1 would be a better choice if you're willing to go more expensive, or a PRO if you want a cheaper choice. The tint on the optic is horrendous and, while the reticle is nice, its a bit big for an optic with a field of view that isn't all that great.

I'd love an Obzor, but the price is outrageous for what you're getting. If you have your heart dead set on one, then good for you, but there are better optics by a long shot in that price range.

>install new ak side rail, get it as tight as i can on the rail while still being able to remove it by hand
>can wiggle it side to side with my hand

What can I do? Link related is what I'm working with.

http://kalinkaoptics.com/rifle-type/ak-vepr-saiga-slr/mounts/patriot-ak-centered-side-mount-w-picatinny-rail.html

>>29848151
What a quaint opinion.

>>29848214
I'm not sure if you're shitposting or if you're seriously trying to say that you believe its nothing more than my opinion when I say that Aimpoints are better than slav optics.

>>29848262
I'm not sure you understood the question asked. It was obzor vs kashtan/PK, nothing was asked about aimpoint.

>>29847601
i had to convert mine to a legal hunting mag
>2 rounds mag

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>hunting any animal that isn't airborne with more than one round

Degenerate.

Seriously though what are you hunting? We've got javelina here, they seem like the perfect animal to hunt with some surplus nugget, SKS, or WASR.

>>29848694
intended for >>29848595

>>29848694
yeah, as if they would stick around to see if i hit the second time
prey list: deer, rabbit, foxes, galliformes, any other small game

>>29847624

>5 rounds
>$20

But why

>>29848769
Because I thought it was cool

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Has anyone ever thought of getting their AK laser engraved? Or is that more an AR owner's thing?

What would you have written on it?

>>29849483
An appeal to heaven

>>29846730
Neat. I got one of those a few days ago.

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Daily reminder

>>29847601
I have a 10 round mag for sighting in

>>29847874
are those keychain mags actually functional?

>>29849682
So, I have an NPAP with a similar problem, only the sight block isn't canted (did the table test and everything, rifle is put together straight), the rear sight leaf itself sits slightly to the right of center. The rifle zeroed fine though the front sight post sits off-center enough that it bugs me.

What do?

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>>29849483
Already did, NFA trust info

The sights on my SLR104 are ever so slightly canted. Laying it flat on a table on the rear sight block and front sight, it slightly wobbles left and right with one of the front sight ears being about .75 millimeters off the table. The front sight post is slightly drifted to one side with about 1.5 millimeters of the front sight drum exposed. The rifle is sighted in just fine and I have no problem hitting steel plates at 300+ meters if I do my part.

Should I throw a bitch fit and complain about ARSENAL CANTED SIGHTS BUBBLE RUST $1200 SHOULDA BOUGHT A WASR or should this not bother me as long as the rifle is able to be sighted in properly without too much drifting needed?

>>29849814
What you should do is form your own opinions instead of asking a Mongolian glass blowing forum to form them for you

>>29849814
you should sell it and build a Gucci ar.

>>29849833
Ok, I'll go ask AKfiles to form an opinion for me

>>29849846
Already got Gucci AR

>>29849846
Is your Form 1 approved yet? EForm on a trust?

Wondering how long the one I have in right now is going to take

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>>29849814
My arsenal was canted so bad I had to slap on an RPK sight just to get it to shoot right. It preforms flawlessly. So no, you shouldn't worry about shit. Unacceptable for a $1,000+ rifle but I'm willing to bet money it will last a LONG fucking time. Robski shows pics of finish bubbling off, a few canted sights pop up on a recent batch of SLRs and every retard with their mom gets a cock up their fat ass and starts spewing memes about arsenal. Have fun with your AK. Yours is just fine.

>>29849870
If you do that then you'll come back with the opinion that Obummer is a reptilian

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>>29849682

>>29849871
i filed my eform 1 last week, got tired of trying to find enough money to buy a kac lower and just did my delton.
it was so easy, i regret not doing it months ago.

>>29849903
Chimps, I am sorry I have not responded to your email, the VSS and AS VAL mags have left the motherland and are on their way.

>>29849903
He's not?
>Going anywhere on the Files but the marketplace
Why would you do that?

>>29849903
wait a sec r u tellin me obongo is NOT a reptilian ??

>>29849903
>>29849938
I went to the news, current events, politics and religion section once and it was literally full of IRL Trumpposting.

The only time I venture outside of the marketplace is if I have a very specific question that I can't find an answer for through Google.

>>29849747
That's kind of hard to correct, try and see if the 2 holes where the rear sight pops into are the same size, also make sure at the battle sight zero spot nubs where the rear sight drum where to sit are even with each other.

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>>29849483

I want to get this written underneath the safety, in the exact same font, to be exposed when the safety is taken off.

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>>29849846

My older bro already has some tricked out M&P15 with a ton of shit on it, including an EOTech. He refuses to get it looked at, insisting that it's fine since he lives in Colorado and doesn't have to worry about hot temperatures.

Going to see how it stacks up with ironsights against my XM55 107fr with ironsights at 100-300 yards.

>>29848357
Nick is full autismo, dont give him attention.

>>29850161
Can't save em all, I guess.

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Why hello there

>>29850161
>superior western optics
Though, I feel like it's all preference.
I would totally slap some Slav optics on my shit if I had a fixed stock and not an underfolder.

>>29850601
Who made those? :)

>>29850707
Recreatorblanks those are late AK74 style, he's making AK100 series next which are slightly thicker then the standard 1mm

>>29850775
Any contact info for him? I wouldn't mind a 100 series one.

>>29850807
http://www.recreatorblanks.com

Or bookface

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>>29843013
>>29843045
Fucking fags can't even appreciate inexpensive mall ninja furniture.

>>29851010
How do you like the magpul handguard? I currently have the houge one and while I like its size and texture, it really has shit mounting options. Hesitant on the magpul because it looks like it might be rather fat compared to other handguards on the market.

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>>29851055
>How do you like the magpul handguard?

Mine is a full-on bias answer. I have huge hands and the handguard is extra comfy for me. I actually prefer my magpul furniture over my friend's palm swell HG I gifted him for christmas.

>>29851093
Oh well fuck, ya a 54r is the length of my entire palm. So I guess I need to find one to handle with my babby hands to know for sure.

>>29851093
are u related to hickok

>>29851093
Man your dick must feel tiny when you jerk off

>>29847661

What builders do you recommend? I have a Bulgarian AK74 parts kit I want built.

>>29851554
I too would like to know this. So far I've looked at Meridian Ordnance and a few others that seem alright but I'm not 100% certain.

who parts kit rifle here?

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>>29851554
In range
Piece of history firearms
Two rivers arms
Rifle Dynamics if you can make sure he isn't going to go crazy with any of his wacky stuff and just build the damn rifle
JBI armory

All very competent builders

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Ohhh, nice clone someone made, with saiga 9 mags too

>>29851831
Are there any that don't have fucking 6+ month backlog?

>>29851977
You could always build it yourself. Probably will cost about the same even after you purchase all the tools.

>>29852135
That's not what I'm asking. You and I both know that in order to do it properly, it cost as much if not more, and you're far more likely to fuck it up. Is it too much to ask for a builder who does decent work and doesn't have a half year long backlog?

>>29851952
Smart move of him to post things not legally importable because of sanctions.

>>29841764
Are DDI aks still good?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW2XimHGyJQ

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>>29851647
me! me!

>>29852314
What country you in ?
> I can't tell is that a third hole ?

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>>29852381
No, that's the center support hole, I didn't have the center support or second rear trunnion rivets installed in that photo.

Still trying to find a place that makes good AK side rails before mounting it (shares a hole with the rear trunnion rivet).

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>>29852381
The third pin hole would go where that stamp mark is near the selector stop.

On the other side of the receiver it's a "Y" shape stamped into it. I like to have the markings for authenticity, even though they aren't used.

Also notice the Bulgarian AB EA selector markings.


Here is an even earlier picture.

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>>29849498

Hey dudes I was the anon that stripped the finish and looked under it to see if there were any issues. Everything was fine and I refinished it myself, when shooting, mag dumped. Worked like a dream zero issues. My batch was from the XM-55 by the way. So if there's anyone out there with that maybe they can go out and shoot without stripping their finish before hand and see what happens.

>>29852433
>>29852411
>>29852314
>mfw that's exactly how I'm planning on having my Bulgy AK-74 built, except y' know, complete and with a finish.
Fuck I just want my Childersguns 80% blank to get here already.

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>be poorfag with new WASR-10
>be afraid to even try magdumping now because something might break or the finish might get fucked up

>>29853257
Well you shouldn't. WASR's are fine you faggot. Stuff breaking is a RAS-47 issue. The finish being fucked is an issue with one batch of Arsenals (XM 55) which appear to have been improperly prepped before being finished or didn't have the finish cured right. There is literally no reason to worry

>>29853225
I would avoid AK-builder scope rails if you plan to add one, I've had two of them crack on me trying to install it.

>>29847395
I really hope this happens and hillary is declared an enemy of the country and is hanged in trumps office

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>>29849483
I would get a polytech/type 56 and have "ancient chinese secret" written in chinese

>>29853257
WASRs are mag dump proof they are also near idiot proof.

>>29853460
Thanks for the headsup nigga. I've been debating on even having a scope rail anyway.