Gearfag Thread: Load Bearing Vest Edition

>>29628353
Kitted up what do your lbe carry?

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>>29628493
I'll take an exploded pic when i get home from work, but MRE's, water and some other shit

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>>29628649
Got one of them gucci jetboil?

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>>29628698
I seem to have good enough luck with the MRE heaters so I've never really looked into buying one

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I'll post some of my gear.

good everyday belt?

>>29628803
What shorts are those?

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>>29630639
UDT shorts

>>29628698

As an outdoor fag

Jetboil < MSR windboiler

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Well I labeled my shit.

Also Fayetteville gear shops have some pretty sick deals, got my ammo bearer a locally manufactured plate carrier for $155.

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Anybody know if there are jeans suitable for operatin'? I live in the desert, sweat a lot no matter what kind of physical activity and fell in love with BLM land for shooting, Was just wondering if there were jeans or jean type of pants that dont retain water like a camel and hold up to /out/ type of abuse. Havnt been able to find anything through google.

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Did ten miles on the Art Loeb today
>quest 4D GTX still going strong
This was the deepest water I could find to test them in because it's sort of a ridgeline trail with not much in the way of standing water

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>>29628353
got some camo color reference pics i'll dump for newfriends

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>>29632193

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>>29632204

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>>29632215

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>>29632105
You probably want a pair of lightweight raw denim jeans. Soft, light, but durable. Also they look great and only get better with age.

Gustin is pretty good for the price
https://www.weargustin.com/store/3317

Studio D Artisan is great but more expensive
http://scout.heddels.com/brands/studio-d-artisan/denim-jeans/studio-d-artisan-d1596-one-wash-raw-denim-jeans

Also Naked and Famous have some light weight stretch ones.

>>29632034
Those MOAB boots are GOAT

>>29630724
>fanceefeast or whitebox alcohol stove is better

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IN with the cheapfag gear boiiiiiiiiiii

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>>29632266
nice, thanks.

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>>29632204
>>29632215
mad props

>>29632105
might be worth mentioning - Levi's sells a spandex imbued line of jeans. Unwittingly ended up with a pair, and while it holds water like a mafhk, they are comfy as fuck when on the move.

>>29632034
of course you did
is it just me or did you consolidate your color schemes?

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>>29632444
Fast fit is best fit.

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>All deez plates
Fuck assaulters, where my recce homies at?

>>29632961
Consolidate like how?

Like try to have matching colors? Yes.

The hydration carrier kinda tickles my 'tisim by being FG instead of RG, but that's what was in stock, so that's what I bought.

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>not gear queer


RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Also, a I was talking to a fellow soldier today. I was talking about how I only had 4 guns. He asked me why I needed, 4 guns, what I was going to do with 4 guns.
>in the infantry
>why do you NEED guns
I am so full of anger, hate, rage, disgust, competent, and few other synonyms that I can't think of because my English no good.

Does anyone have pictures of ranger green gear over flecktarn? I can't find much of that elsewhere.

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>>29633119
Ranger green is way more grey than people give it credit for. But do you know color theory? Colors change based on colors around it. For example, This is ranger green.

>>29630359
Where can one get a fanny pack like that one?

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>>29633170
This is also ranger green. Rg isnt as versatile as coyote brown, but it'll work.

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>>29633185
Of course, lighting fucks everything up. Literally looks wolf grey

>>29633170
>>29633185

Hm thanks. Looks like a ranger green plate carrier/pouches would work decently over flecktarn... I've never seen a flecktarn PC/pouches.

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>>29633205
I personally think it works best in contrast. It'll look baller as fuck on top of
Multicam
UCP
Marpat desert
Tropoentafartin neonazi desert camo
And coyote brown/tan solid tops.

>>29633101
Nah, that exists even in active duty. You have both extremes in the infantry. Knew one guy who would build ARs for fun, had a Barret 50. Cal, and a fuckton of other guns and ammo. In that same platoon we had a guy who had zero guns and no real intention of getting any.

Hell, I didn't get my first gun until after I got out of the service.

Let's just hope these people become enlightened

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>>29633231
I would base the clothing around the pc. Unless you're squid, the plate carrier probably cost more than your clothes.

I wouldn't lose sleep over it. Priority 1 is carry gear, priority 2 is protecting your vitals. Correct color pairing is a little far down the list.

>>29633243
Oh trust me. I just introduced a private to Palmetto state armory. But this guy is
>straight antigun
>tried to tell me Tolkien wrote the hobbit before lotro
>thinks morgoth is sauron's father, failed to mention melkor.
>thinks he's an "RPG guy". I asked if he played pillars of eternity, wasteland, geneforge, baulders gate, mask of the betrayer, or deus ex. Nope, witcher 3, skyrim, fallout

The rage is on so many levels

>>29633318
DO NOT TALK BAD ABOUT WITCHER

This is your last warning

>>29633318

Everything about this post is fine, but don't talk shit about tw3 you fucking Kurwa

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>>29633318
Well, The Hobbit was published first. The rudaments of LotR existed very early on, but Tolkien made significant changes to the lore after the publication of The Hobbit.

>RPG guy
>involving pixels

Dice or no balls.

>>29633364
>>29633382
>I love shit combat systems that they tried to change every game and failed to ever make good.
>don't need good combat for an RPG? Dragon's dogma and dark souls did it. Fuck, it's a different sort of combat, but Balder's gate / pillars stuff gets tactical as fuck.

Furthermore, the quality of a game doesn't mean it isn't normie as fuck.

I played all 3 witcher games. And while it was pretty good, that cocksucker ain't no RPG man

>>29633390
Bruh, dnd basic expert bitch here. It blows my mind that the concept of different leveling rates didn't fucking stick. Literally the best way to balance wizards and buff rouges. Also, fucking being told I can't do something clever because I don't have the required feat for it.

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>>29628803
nice udt's, 10/10

>>29633318
melkor and morgoth are the same being

>>29633548

No homo but those thighs tho

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>>29633063
>Like try to have matching colors?
Yep. comes together more nicerly now

>>29633050
you gon do this to me again?

>>29633050
I see you have the DD front sight too. Ever had a problem with the screw coming loose? I had to tighten mine down after a range trip.

>>29633564
Goddamnit. That's two strikes. regardless, melkor is not sauron's father. Melkor is a ainur. Sauron was a maiar, of aule, melkor's rival among the valar.

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SOE m4/AK micro rig and a slick carrier made by I can't remember who.. ha.

Also fast fit ftw

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>>29633272
idk man, sometimes I have night terrors because my gear doesn't match. I'll find myself scowling when I wake up.
a tiny part of me wants to get another LBT but in mc tropic, but another, smarter, and very nostalgic part of me likes the m8 and sees that I have a perfectly good carrier already.

>>29634329
*M81, not m8

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>7 weeks later, still waiting on my G-Code holster

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It's coming, the payment cleared earlier tonight, they should ship on monday I suppose. Excited.

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>>29632105

DESU senpai I've pretty much retired my combat shirts and pants fatigues.

Civie cloths + tactical gear is the new GQ

Anybody got real experience with the Arcteryx(?) Combat pant knee pad inserts? I'm considering purchasing a pair to replace my shitty issue pads and chinko emerson crye copies.

>>29633101
He needs to have his rifles and cord taken away.

Any who, back on topic. Looking to get a RLCS H harness for a patrol rig. Anyone have experience with the Eagle Ind H Harness from the RLCS of SFLCS kit?

>>29632105
Duluth
Hold water but are pretty goat


>/out/ish clothing companies that make decent jeans from what I've heard.
kuhl
TAG

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>>29628353
smerch best lbv

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finally got woodland cammies again.

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>>29635405

>>29632109

I have them, and have had them for something like 3 years. Yet to find fault.

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>>29632435

But the MSR is a flameless burner, so it's way more tactical. Yes it's maybe not as versatile as a multi fuel stove, but for trips of less than a week or so and so long as you're only having to feed yourself and a battle buddy they are A* class.

Literally the only let down is a lack of piezo.

I use mine innawoods/onnamountain/onnarange all the time. Although pic isn't mine.

>>29636927

The only thing MSR has a leg up over the Jetboil is its way easier to lock the pot onto the burner.

Both are pretty effective in boiling water super fast.

>>29637121

I do have both - a Jetboil Sumo Ti for when I'm in groups/guiding, and a Windburner for when it's just me and a buddy. I like the Windburner's radiant burner for up on mountains, it lights and stays lit in everything I've ever faced.

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>>29633101
>a fellow soldier

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>>29634329
spoken like a true gear queer. i know that feel.

i'm trying to make a saw gunner kit here
would this LBV go over an iotv?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-ARMY-MOLLE-II-ACU-FIGHTING-LOAD-CARRIER-VEST-/321992537850?hash=item4af84036fa:g:0REAAOSwgQ9VwtNH
would want to know opinions and suggestion

>>29635331
What is this knockoff garbage?

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>>29637266
Yes, but you probably want a belt instead, the FLC has no way of securing itself to the IOTV so it's going to slide around a bit unless you can tighten it down.

Contrary to popular belief, you CAN go prone with your shit loaded like this.

Were you not issued an FLC at CIF?

Why do you need to buy one?

>>29637811
do the gunner and assistant gunner both carry ammo? how does it get decided if you should cary more primary mags and lose a belt of ammo? do you carry them in nutsacks or what? what happens if a gunner runs out of ammo while on patrol?

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>>29637821
It's all about the team's preference.

My gunner just has a 50 round starter belt, and I'm carrying anywhere from 600 to 1400 rounds, the tripod, and the extra barrels, a PAS-13, a rangefinder, and 7 mags for my primary.

My gunner doesn't trust nutsacks, and if he shoots through his starter belt before I can get to him than I've fucked up, the AG should never be more than 25m to the left of the gunner.

We picked up an ammo bearer recently, I'm interested to see how much he can carry.

As a gun crew, we really have no business using our M4, making people fall down is meat gundam's job, and he excels at it.

>>29637846
so he carrys his own ruck but you carry the ammo and your day to day shit?

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>>29637846
>ammo bearer
>meat gundum
you need to sit on his shoulders with a pair of AT4s while screaming in japanese

>>29637872
He's got his ruck, the 240L, and an M9 with 2 spare mags.

>>29637894
I'm not exactly small, we do have a little Colombian kid who could fit in his ruck.

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>>29632225
>mfw someone uses the infographic I made.

>>29637811

If you want a good SAW/ 240 set up look at this example.

What's fucking funny about this is that all the gunners in my weapons squad and the saw gunners in my PLT migrated to a set up like this about 3 months into deployment.

>>29637821
The AG has the mags for his M4. Ours would do two of the 3x low profile shingles and everything other piece of real estate on him was for the gun. Our AG would have 5 mags just of tracers for marking. That's the AG's job is to keep the gun fed and find offerings for the blood God.

>>29637846
Meat Gundam, that's a good one dude.

>>29637846
>meat gundam
Im adding this to my vernacular.

>>29632444

>no blue chapstick

0/10

>>29634329

>autism

Armour wear has some deals going on again.

$250 for two level IV SA ceramic plates with a throwaway PC
$15 for IIIA soft 5x8 side plates or $35 for 6x8.

Just thought I'd shill for them; I got the 15$ 5x8 panels for my mayflower apc and I got their $200 IV SA plates before.

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>>29636927
I've got an MSR. Got it when I took my trip down the Grand Canyon last year. Suited me perfectly for 3 days. Not as good as cooking over an open fire mind you but because of the Native's rules we had to use burners. The MSR suited me quite well though. Got to eat my delicious beef stroganof mountain house meals to my belly's content.

>>29634329
wear an OD /k/ patch and your gear is 10/10

>>29638330
Please don't

/k/ patches are exceedingly cringey

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>>29638491
He's a civvie posting in a Gear Queer thread
It's already cringe

Why not add an autism patch so you could shitpost in real life with like minded people?

Buy Condor

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>>29633674
Aww yeah.

>>29633859
Replaced a flip up Troy for red dot since I keep it up anyway. I used some thread locker shit I had lying around, haven't had any play in the few hundred rounds put through it since install.

>>29639185
>He's a civvie posting in a Gear Queer thread
It's already cringe

listen to this welfare queen, the reason there is a market for gear is because of civilians. unless your in some hot shit unit you aren't even allowed to use a lot of this shit. You are seriously talking down to the small minority that is actually prepared and interested in this shit.

>>29628649
You carry MREs in your LBE? Learn to pack wtf. Get a ruck or daypack.

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>>29633182
Mine in the picture is AWS #50369 Fanny Pack


Eagle Industries, csmgear, also make some.

>>29639185
>I joined the military so I could have the "right" to play with cool shit
Faaaaaaag.

>>29639618
What helm is that?

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Got two more mag pouches on the way. Need a backpack.

>>29632598
This photo is great.

>>29639637
MSA ACH helmet

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Anyone got an opinion on these packs?

I want to get one as a hydration and general "stuff" carrier for this summer because I'm spending the next 2 months in the woods for field work.

Is it as good as their other products/ is it worth it?

I'm kind of skeptical of its usefulness because there's no internal organization pouches or hip belt.

The only real redeeming factor to me is it looks cool and can expand alot.

>>29639680
Neat as fuck. Look into direct actions line of back packs

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>>29639869
This is the other pack I was thinking of.

About the same price, shit ton more organization plus padded hip belt.

Only downside is I couldn't run this with a plate carrier or a belt setup as easily as the flatpack.

>>29630359
What jacket is that?

>>29639869
It's way to small to need a fucking hip belt.you are miss interpreting how small that pack is. If you put enough weight in that pack that you would need a hip belt you are doing it wrong.

I suggest if you are doing wilderness shit and need a backpack with a hip belt that you get something designed for backpacking.

The flatpack is just a jansport schoolbag with compression zippers.

>>29639869
>>29639888
Eagle Yote is the most practical pack I've ever used.

>>29639888
This will serve you better if you are going to be carrying shit and going a distance. But you need to also remember your feet and the more shit you have in your pack the harder it's gonna be in your feet so you boot and sock game need to be on point

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>>29639935
Way ahead of you

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>>29639897
Arktis b110

>>29639927
this.
Beavertail packs are based.

What kind of boots/footwear do y'all have?

>>29641034
The best >>29632109

>>29639972
Linesman's boots are for hiking in
There are better options

Unless your climbing a tree or pole with irons during your hikes

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>>29639870
Pretty expensive.

>>29641329
Jansport then

>>29641364
I've not got much experience with packs. I'm looking at Drago, is that an airshit brand?

>>29633205
Ayy :^), where did you get that for $60?

>>29641400
tactical assault gear's website

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>>29641625
Thanks

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>>29639680
maybe try spec ops brand?

Got a THE pack on sale. Not massive (40L range), but it's expandable and packs down nicely. Very comfy with the frame insert too

Hits the sweet spot between a Jansport and an actual 60L+ ruck. Accepts a hydration bladder of course (amongst other great features)

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Holy shit I just got my first baofeng today and by God and sunny jesus is it over my head

>>29642112
It's just a walkie talkie, anon.

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>>29642112

I bought a ghillie suit the other day.
I don't know what the fuck I'm even going to do with it.
>lolpremade should've made your own
That's a lot of work.

Is there any place for an SPR/DMR in comparison to going with a carbine with a red-dot or low-mag optic? I've always had a hard-on for 18"-20" ARs, but it seems like that sort of thing wouldn't fit in with a group.
I don't think I've ever seen a DMR kit in these threads, nor have I on poking through Google (outside of airsoft websites)

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>>29642119
Fuck you I've been sitting on my ass for way too long leaning all these new acronyms like VFO and MR and TOT and DC and all kinds of nonsense while meanwhile afraid I'm going to get arrested because I keep hitting the transmit button on accident and not being sure if I'm allowed to do that on this channel or that channel and I can't even get the back light to change colors because of reasons I don't understand

Y tho

>>29642178
>confessing to illegal PTT
Lol enjoy your raid

>>29642187
Only on illegal channels the manual said so ;^)

>>29642168
You could getchu a DMPS AR-10 with 20 round mags, then build a plate carrier or chest rig to magnify your combat effectiveness with your raifu. You'd fit in with anybody if you could reach out and effectively touch some baddies at a klick with your primary weapon.

>>29642291
I've considered doing an AR-10, but the price of the gun is likely a little out of my league right now. Wouldn't sticking with a 5.56 be an easier option simply for ammo/mag/parts commonality, faster follow-up shots, and lighter weight?
Also, I've got tons of 5.56 and AR mags, but literally no .308, so that would be a chunky investment for ammo alone.
>out to a klick
I would never consider myself a good enough shooter to pull that off without missing. Out to 500-600 yards is probably the max I'd push the gun if need-be.

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Goruck GR0

>>29642365
It would, and you can get an AR15 with a 20 inch barrel, bipod, and a 4x32 acog or 3-9x40 scope and be able to reach out to 600 meters easily depending on your ammo, but I get the vibe that you'd like an all around, broad spectrum carbine/rifle. Am I correct?

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>>29642178
I know that feel. VA has some bro-tier hammies though.

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>>29642428
2.5-10 power scope is what I'm thinking. Pic related, what I might build this summer if I decide to stick with my idea.
>broad-spectrum carbine/rifle
Sort of. I've been through several different kinds of rifles, calibres, and lengths, and through experimenting with range time and dry-fire practice clearing rooms that I'm perfectly fine with a 2.5 power on the low-end, and that I have no use for an SBR or carbine. I actually find it harder to shoot with the 1 power versus the 2.5 power within 50 yards. The liklihood of me having to clear rooms is extremely low, and its not like I wouldn't be carrying a sidearm anyway in such a circumstance. Might consider building a 10.5" upper just for such a thing.
I find the DMR type stuff suits me best. Not big on shooting close-in nor on precision long-range. Mid-range, sitting to the rear, suits me best.

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Upgraded my magazines using some rare, highly spec'd, Tier-1 operator flexible adhersive material.

Currently fucking around with some some minor stuff with my Chicom rig.

>>29642672
I can dig it, and I can appreciate that you've already got yourself a solid philosophy of use and you're not trying to add a bunch of bullshit to your rifle that you don't need. I would say a build like your pic related would be a solid start and maybe adding a picatinny folding bipod to perfect your DMR role and weapon. Once that's done, if you're not looking for armor carrying, a chest rig would be your best bet to platform off of for scouty/reece activities.

>>29641124
>I will be in a forest.
>Cruising timber.

These are what these boots are literally made for.

Better boots would be Lowas

>>29641794
Whats with that gay ass meme AR?
Don't you know only homosexuals have their rails extend past their barrels?

>>29642951
>that Tier 1 adhesive material
WHERE
TO
COP??

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>>29641794
>1-point sling
>1-point sling is mounted on stock instead of the end of the receiver
>Eotech
>No irons
>15km of rails with nothing mounted on it

Why senpai?

>>29643003
>solid POU
You make me blush. I now spend an autistic amount of time trying to plan out what I want and what to buy thanks to NnF.
Gunstruction doesn't have Atlas bipods or anything simple, so I didn't include it.
I'm definitely looking at a chest rig over a carrier. I've been thinking a Haley D3CR since it can hold 4-5 30 rounders and 2 pistol mags. If I ever do consider amour, it would probably only be a frontal plate.

>>29642672
Still use an adjustable stock and 18inch barrel
Adjustable stocks are too damn useful. The lop of an a2 is too damn long

18 inch, still has exceptional ballistics. Good enough for the mk12 SPR. It really looks better

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>>29643054
You like? I got a hookup who gets me this stuff. Just $50 a roll.

>>29643054
USPS

>>29641863
>THE pack

I recommend this as well. I've had mine since Afghan 2005. It was once run over by a 7 ton, and once run over by a tank. It has fallen off of cliffs and been dragged for accumulative miles on rock and pavement. I still have and use it and it's still 100%, the pocket layout is fantastically simple and useful.

>>29642135
>That's a lot of work.
It's also the best way of making sure it's effective

>>29643209
Either you're a liar or an idiot, either way, I wouldn't be proud of that story

>>29643083
>A2 is too long
I'm 6'3" with ape-arms. The most comfortable ARs I've ever held had A2 stocks. Not a fan of collapsible stocks anyway to be honest. I always keep them at full-length. The Tavor and FAMAS have lengths of pull longer than an A2 and I find them to fit me very nicely.
>18" still has exceptional ballistics [and] looks better
You aren't wrong, but I've thought about it a fair bit (not to sound like a dick). To make a long story short (including several factors), if I'm going longer than the 16" I currently own, its going to be a 20".
If I do find the extra two inches not worth it, I could just have it cut down anyway.

>>29643235
Did you really take that as a singular war story? I've had the pack since 2005, it saw 5 years of infantry training and deployments, and another 7 years as a civilian camping, hiking, trail bag. Beets. Bears.

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reporting in guys

>>29643077
I would definitely and infinitely advise looking at better quality rigs than the USGI Fighting Load Carrier or Tactical Assault Panel System (both of which I have been issued and used) since they are complete and total garbage. Hell, even a micro chest rig with two rifle and two mag pouches would be better than both combined. I'm not too familiar with all the different companies that make chest rigs, plate carriers, etc. etc., so I'd lurk around here and the next few threads to window shop all the different brands, essentially.

>>29643309
What do you keep in the SAW pouch?

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>>29643309
Do any of you guys who wear desert kit actually live in a desert?

>>29642951
>dem BCGs

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>>29643333
Yeah I'll be shopping around a fair bit. I don't think I've seen anything yet that seems to be the exact thing I'm looking for besides pic related. Most have too many random pouches and are too bulky.

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>>29643380
I've been considering getting them in my newest prescription and using them as my primary shooting glasses.

As you can see, I'm doing some quite spendy upgrades tonight.

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>>29643405
Regardless of who you go with, manufacturer wise, I would definitely advise a rig with MOLLE webbing so you can customize your rig to you and you alone. Also would not recommend snakememe camo. Amd once you've perfected your chest rig based off of your individual needs, train with it, then train with it, then after that, train with it some more. And once you think you've finally mastered your rig, train with it even more.

Pic related is my kit, am considering attaching one more stacker 2 rifle mag pouch that I have 3 available of.

>>29643405
Tactical Tailor Micro MAV has about the same amount of front space, but it's MOLLE, so you can adjust it to your own preferences.

>>29643566
Definitely no Kryptec lel, it was just the best photo I could find. I would probably go with either OD or Ranger Green for where I live.
Thanks for the words of advice.
>>29643589
That is definitely another option I have looked at.

>>29643662
just look at what you need and if it will work for what you need it to do,i have a d3cr and it works just right for me

>>29643309
What kind of combat shirt is that? and where can i get one

I have two gear queer questions.

First, does anyone use thigh/below waist holsters in a hot/humid area? I need to get my pistol off my waist while wearing my pack.

Secondly, I have fat thighs and thin waist, Levis are fine until I lose about 5 pounds of fat then they fall off at the waist, and my dickies jeans are tight as fuck on my balls.

Halp

>>29643672
Have any pictures of how you have it set up?

>>29643353
my ifak and a few luxuries
>>29643379
marine fag in SoCal so yes I live in the desert sort of
>>29643683
desert marpat frog shirt is the name

>>29642951
>>29643565
Why not just buy spacers and Pmag magpulls instead of being a poorfag?

>>29643698
thought it was just the standard marine shirt

>>29643220
Making sure it's effective, not making it effective.
It it matches from the get go who cares.

>>29642178
Just program in the MURS channels and use it on those. Youtube up on how to program frequencies into it; that's what I'm doing until I go through and get the license shit if I actually do.

>>29643799
Still illegal if it's an unlicensed MURS device, even in low power.
No one knows that law though.

>>29643819
True. I guess I'm betting that they won't do anything if I use it responsibly and at 1W.

What chest rig do you guys recommend? I'm not convinced that a D3CR is the right thing. I want to be able to use the CR as a standalone rig, or clip it in my mayflower APC. I'd like rifle and pistol mags but not too big (3 rifle mags preferable).

>>29643757
it's standard but that's what they named it, you can get it on ebay for 40$ and is unbelievably comfortable

>>29643873
Moreover, no one will know period unless you're purposefully bouncing it off of a repeater or some shit.

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>>29643696
almost all of the time its just like the picture you posted,don't mind the mag in the front pouch just keeping it there for now, but, i keep the whole rig in the flat pack and use it in vehicles for the most part, you can pull it out and get it setup real quick if you need to, i use it when im on the southern border during the summer

>>29643974
Awesome, I've been looking at the D3CR for connecting it to a backpack like you have there, albeit a larger one.

>>29644033
When i know im going to be patrolling i use it as a water bladder, but you can attach it to most back packs surprisingly it will attach to a camelbak hawg and the linchpin also fits the new usmc filbe but my old one just sits in my closet, just get an idea of what you are going to use it for, there are a few packs that work perfect for it

>>29644149
>patrolling
Do you patrol the border? Seems like it would be an interesting thing to do on the weekends.

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>>29628353
>Load Bearing Vest Edition
r8 m8s

>>29632215
>Red
For operations on Mars

>>29644685
>not preparing in advance to invade Mars and remove alium
Full pleb.

>>29628353
Where can I get suspenders and a belt for the MOLLE system? (Similar to the ALICE kind)

>>29632109
waterproof?

>>29645027
Yes, the GTX stands for goretex

Standing in shallow cool water with these is actually a good way to cool my feet off without having to remove the boots. Feels nice

>>29645063
nice

>>29643690
Do a drop, thigh holsters suck in all but a few circumstances.

You should be wearing a belt, also jeans in a humid and hot environment with any type of activity sounds like a great way to get a rash.

So what's the better deal /k/
Crye Drifire Combat Shirt- $67
or Massif FR Combat Shirt- $40?

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>>29632105

I wore a pair of Prana Twill Pants to the range today. Knees are in great shape after kneeling and pivoting and whatnot. 7/10. Prolly wouldn't wear innawoods for any extended period of time. They don't feel like they'd shed water.

Stock pic related.

>>29632193
That reminds me, I need to resew a button.

>>29632105
DTC Firehouse Pant's are tough as shit and have huge pockets. Not "jeans" per se but still damn good pants for operating.

>>29645449
>sweaty cotton hypothermia shit
>good for anything but disposable work pants

>>29644425
some work i do involves working down near the border

>>29634607
why didn't you get one off amazon or some other reliable website

>>29645306
get the crye

>>29645870
it actually dries fairly quickly as far as cotton goes. something about the weave.

>>29632034
I would like to see a video of you operating in that shit.

>>29641794
your AR setup is fucking disgusting

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>>29641794
how new are you to AR15s

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What should go in the extra pouches on my chicom rig? I have a small tool kit in one but the rest could have some cargo

Yall think its do-able to get a pair of crye pants with knee pads and cut out the knees to sew on jeans??
And a follow could you do the same with the cargo pockets??

I like jeans and i figure i could just sew it on and be done

>>29646924
Compass?

>>29646948
I got a couple, good idea.

So my rig is >>29639680 and I need some advice.

So far I've got 6 mag pouches, 2 canteens and the buttpack. I need a backpack I can wear with this rig that won't force me to lower the rig down to my waist. I also would like to know if a belt around my waist would help to hold extra shit, like in >>29642178 and >>29643309.

>>29646926
Follow up idea, what if i took a combat top and cut it to a short sleeves, used the extra fabric to patch holes in ripped up jeans and the velcro wrist cuffs were put on the bottom of the pants to tighten the pants around boots???

>>29646926
>>29647059
that's a very roundabout way of saying you basically want crye pants in denim.
which is retarded.

>>29646926
>>29647059
What the fuck? What is your malfunction? Did your Mexican nanny shake you?

Listen up you wasteland wanderer mad Max missed opportunity at a deep throat spit take, if you are trying to hack together some Cryptek Levi's carpet remnant dress for the Oper8r's "Zero Dark Three Zero" Ball, you are dumber than you imaginative tactifail wardrobe.

Maybe I'm wrong, use your girlscout sewing badge and see if your troglodytic piecemeal pretty boy dualing banjo BDU is worth the cost of admission.

If I finally find the strength to put a gun in my mouth to finish what some goat-fucker with an empty jug of palm oil in the catbox started 6 years ago, it will be because I saw you running around brining shame to my species.

>>29643690
DTC Ballroom jeans

>>29647005
my belt helps a bit, not a bad investment if it's to help distribute weight and organize your set up, I'm this fag >>29643309

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>>29628353
This is my simple setup I was working on before I moved, it's in my old state sitting in storage. I took the padded belt out of an LBE vest and taped it to the inside. When I get it back I'm gonna put on another two AR Mag pouches and mark one with a red cross for my IFAK. Already have plenty of medical shit on hand to put in there.

>>29647237
Thanks.

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>>29646924
get a four cell instead of a 3 cell. you dont need for grenade pouches.

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is there any good sites which sells iotv amd ship worldwide?

>>29647196
>>29647162
Well shit i was just throwing an idea out there, i have a pair of ripped up light blue jeans and i figured i could find a good use for em

>>29648765
>one green hard knuckle glove
>one tan hard knuckle glove

>>29648765
Dude they suck. Don't even

>>29646592
Next on my list is a set of ARC rails and a Contour camera, but I don't think a first-person view is what you're looking for.

>>29648954
b-but muh us army

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>>29648765
Ugh, looking at that made me cringe. I've got fucking PTSD from my IOTV.

>>29649525
>Deploying in an IOTV

I am so sorry. Jesus wearing those things in training sucked. If I had to wear full armor (plate carrier for the win though), I'd take even an IBA over an IOTV, assuming I couldn't get cleared for a CIRAS.

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How stupid is the com setup?

>>29649593
easy to lose the remote mic, no pouch on radio, shitty, antenna position, no wide band or 2 meter backup, no tape securing wires, no ear piece or throat mic, et c

it's amateur hour.

>>29649593
are you rright handed or left?

>>29649691
Im left handed.

>>29649593
where the fuck is the tuning dial?

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>>29649708
yeah then it looks fine to me. my radio is set up similarly. i just don't use a lapel mic. I'm going to get a PTT and a headset eventually.

>>29649730
i whish i could have that radio pouch
But with shipping and taxes it would cost me 70 bucks ;_;

>>29649785
>$50 shipping

where the fuck are you

http://762tactical.com/pouches/molle-compatible-baofeng-uv-5r-radio-pouch-extended-battery.html

>>29649818
Germany

>>29649818
i checked it again.
its 40.95$ of shipping

>>29649824
you should look into general purpose pouches then. if you can get a single blue force gear ten speed mag you could use that it would stretch and hold your radio. im sure anyflapped single mag pouch would hold it.

>>29649829
fuck that noise. why are you in germany are you on the base or are you a german? can germans even own gear?

>>29649785
>>29649730
I see a lot of pics of people wearing their radios on their backs. Any input on that? I got the idea from films so go easy on me.

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>>29649836
Yea we can have gear but getting guns is hardish.
I already found a bouch i like by Zentrauron. Pic related. It should fit the radio just right.
I might copt it some time soon.
http://www.zentauron.de/en/Shop/Radio%20Pouches/Radio%20Pouch%20Mini/?color=german+armed+forces+olive&size=Standard

>>29649847
Fine if you never need to change channels or adjust the volume. Basically, you need a battle boyfriend.

>>29649847
Wearing backpacks it a thing

>>29649871
> battle boyfriend
c-cute :3

>>29649847
i'm not an expert in any way but that's a bad idea unless you have a dedicated battle buddie. Wearing a radio on your back makes it impossible for you to fuck with it without taking off your plate carrier and putting shit on your back makes it inconvenient to wear a pack or rucksack.

the kinds of people you see with radios or other shit molled directly on their back are usually operating with a team and not going very far. usually they are entry teams and need the front of their gear for other shit or their big ass milspec radios are too big and have to be mounted back there.

with a small hand held like a baofeng or Motorola it's pointless to move them to your back.

>>29649847
It complicates things by requiring a remote for changing channels and setting now. You also have trouble accessing it to change batteries.

A lot of people will put the radios on their front and then run a remote antenna on their backs. Some people will run flexible antennas across their backs (if you ever see a soldier with a bunch of clear tubing all over the back of his MOLLE, that is what that is). The most powerful solution is to keep using a whip antenna, either folded in to the shoulder or on a remote on the back.

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>>29649868
what kind of gun do you have?
do you mainly use your kit for airsofting?

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>>29642951
>BCGs
>Mfw

I haven't seen those in a long time.

>>29628353
Are Team Wendy CAM-FIT Chinstrap Retention System worth the dosh

Any recommendations for an MSA tc 2000 Helmet Liner and chin straps? My issued ones are fucking pretty caked in grime and shit of the day.

>>29651817
I like Ops Core. I know some people who got the full helmet liner setup and it was really nice. You could leave it unbuckled and turn your head over and it wouldn't fall off. I just got the replacement straps and a set of GI pads and think it held up really well. They are a 10/10 improvement over GI straps, especially if you're using NODs.

>>29651817
TW Cam-Fit is absolutely worth the money compared to my Ops-Core liner.

The OC system uses a plastic headband instead of an insulated aluminum cable loke on the TW system.

The TW chin-cup does feel a little bigger than the OC chin-cup, this helps stabilize your helmet and suck it down onto your head more.

>>29651859
The Dial-Liner kit is a massive improvement over the GI system, but the TW system is a little easier to install.

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>>29641794
>gear opsec 2.jpg
>opsec
>mfw

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>>29651859
since i'm cheap, i took my regular GI straps, and got rid of the H thing and crossed the back straps making it into a pseudo X nape, it's decently comfortable and works amazing with nods
this is the only picture I really have of it, and i put the watermark pretty much right over the straps but you get the idea

>>29643405
>pic related
but not in THAT pattern right?

>>29649868
fuck zentauron.. waited über 6 weeks for my belt. schon mal recon-company ausgecheckt?

>>29652063
Whatever works for you. I like the upgraded straps because the adjustment buckles don't shift at all, and that was a huge annoyance for me with the GI straps.

If you're .mil, I'll mention that we used those same IR strobes, but had a wide Velcro strip on the helmets and then put a wide strip over our strobes to kind of sandwich them in there. Really kept them secure.

Those issued lights always bugged the shit out of me. I ended up just going with a cheapo headlamp with the band tied down with 550 through the helmet screws. I found it didn't get caught in shit and was just as useful for white/red light. Never had much use for the IR feature.

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>>29635331
digi flora <3

Is WWII issue gear gud and durable?

>>29652262
It would be mildly to notable to have WW2 gear. Sure you aren't thinking of ALICE?

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>>29635331
>>29652239

Digital Flora is fucking terrible. The pattern is absolutely tiny. At any distance, it looks like one solid blob. What the fuck is the point? Just issue a drab uniform.

>>29652280
No I'm talking "vintage" WWII surplus or issued gear I find on eBay. M41 jackets, M37 shirt and trousers, HBT shirt and trousers, etc. I like the way it looks much better than modern tactical gear and the shirts/jackets go pretty well with jeans.

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>>29652300
nah, let me play VDV dress up, it's not your money, also 1st gen was pretty much just solid drab

>>29649593
Thanks /k/oko

Any helmet liners you recommend?

>>29652359
for >>29651964

>>29641794
That AR reminds me of an uncircumcised dick. Disgusting

>>29652359
>>29652365
I'm using the TW Epic Air liner right now.

Lower profile than the GI pads, breathes easier too.

>>29652239
For real though digi flora is garbage

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so my milsurp store has ACH helmets for like $150-$180. Good deal?

>>29652424
this guy gets it. as effective as OD.

>>29652424
so is this jackets camo >>29635405

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>>29652438
>merrell

>>29652408
I'll look into that thanks man

>>29652515
Haven't had this issue. I've taken them down the Grand Canyon and used them as my every day shoes for a bit when I was between regular shoes and too lazy to get new ones.

>>29652508
nobody denies that. but one of these patterns is from the 90's and one from 2008. guess which.

>>29652515
Believing this picture. This is either a troll or somebody too stupid to change out their socks and/or air their feet out. No boot is in an of itself responsible for that soggy tenchfoot mess.

I know a high speed tacticool operator who had never deployed. He thought he was hot shit because while us plebs were on deployment, he was getting badass shooting classes. We all went to JRTC and by the end of it, he was a near crippled mess because he didn't take care of his feet (I guess they don't teach that in the carbine courses). Moral of the story is that you have to take care of yourself.

Any decently made boot will work. Put aside the fanboy arguing and remember to find a good fit, wear good socks, change the socks out as needed, and to air out your feet by taking off the boots and wearing flip flops if possible at a camp site.

>>29652579
I remember some people drooling over it, and i'm drooling over digi flora.
No matter how much people butthurt or give facts about it, it won't change my opinion. Besides why can't people accept variety? Olive drab, woodland, multicam mix is pretty boring

I'm looking for a "tactical" pack. Lots of pouches, molle loops, hydration pack insert, etc.

How is Condor? Any other brands/models I should be aware of?

>>29652860
For a outdoors daypack, some decently proofed offering from a camping store will do you just fine.

For a light daypack, a military oriented camebak like a LOAD or MULE will work.

If you want a full on 3-day pack, nothing wrong with the GI pack. Tactical Tailor and LBT also make good day packs.

The thing about packs is that you really shouldn't be buying the in order to strap a bunch of pouches a shit to the exterior. If you know ahead of time you're going to be putting that much stuff in a pack, just size up and buy a bigger pack.

>>29652515
>thinking boots can compensate for retardation

>>29628803
What belt is that?

>>29652941
Sorry. By pouches I meant compartments.

>>29633574
I'm most impressed by someone's physique when their legs beefed. Like that dude in Clockwork Orange, fucking tree trunk thighs

>>29652438
i paid $180 for mine a few months ago. it was brand new with tags, made in 2014 and came with the standard pads, straps and a helmet cover.
i think it was a fair price.

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Aft all these years I still find hellcats sexy

>>29653912
They defineitly were not new and they were a bit beat up to be honest. So maybe if they were in a bit better shape I'd go for it.

>>29653317
LBT low profile bdu belt
idk if they're still in production or not, but they cost like $30 or so

>>29652515
>believing someone who thinks breaking in your boots is a meme and didn't change out their socks

You are genuinely almost as retarded as the OP in that image, even if you are baiting.

>>29646924
Anyone got any ideas?

>>29632215
Ah yes, my favorite camo Red

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>>29632215
You're missing some

>>29646924
My advice is to not go looking for stuff to put into a pouch that you have but to make sure you have everything you need without a bunch of extra weight.

That being said, I suggest you get a compass and put it on a tether and stick it in a pouch. My baofeng UV5R also fits in mine but not with extended battery.

You can also fit 2 H&H compressed gauze and a SWATT tourniquet in one if you really squeeze that shit in there. Just dont use SWATT as your only tourniquet.

>>29654606
reference as in common patterns. No one wears that shit.

>>29654074
I bought mine from these guys
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Revision-MSA-ACH-Advanced-Combat-Helmet-Green-LARGE-MICH-with-Multicam-Cover-/152059601808?
it was 180 with free shipping when I bought it.
they did me a solid and mailed me an extra helmet cover for free, so I have a very positive opinion of the seller. put it in your watched list and wait for a discount

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Snapback or fitted hats? Which do you prefer?

Is there any practical advantage to having this hole in the back of your hat other than growing a tactical ponytail?

>>29655341
A good hat has room for a tactitail, no matter what kind

>>29655394
Yeah but I was thinking of putting velcro on the back that way I can wear TWO patches.

>>29655341
beanies, because massive head that doesn't fit other stuff.

my helmet game is weak.

>>29655423
I get what you're saying, how else are people gonna know you're cool?
I preferred fitted hats for that reason (On a serious note, fitted hats are often better quality/more versatile)

>>29655423
>gee anon...

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>>29655341
Fixed cap for me - It just sits on my head better.

>>29655341
I prefer snapbacks, not the flat brim mind you, becaue I have a tactical ponytail.

>>29652508
desert night is not an effective camo it just looks neat.

>>29655341
I don't wear any headgear except when I go shooting. Then I wear a keffiyah because I live in the desert and don't want to get burned.

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>>29652491
This guy gets it OD is the shit.

>>29655489
>tfw size 8 1/2 fitted cap

i know your feel

>>29656287
green in general is best girl.

>>29656684
I suspect I'm the same. I've considered just getting a skate helmet, but even they're tough to find in such large sizes :(

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>>29635331
> "smersh best lbv"
>posts knock-off smersh

Seriously? You couldn't afford an legit one from SSO?

>>29652091
Christ no, as I said in the other reply, it was just the picture was good.

Anyone got any suggestions on where to buy plates from?

>>29658915
AR500 Armor.

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>>29657152
Step aside replica shits.

>>29658915
The target man. SDKTac. Bulletproof me. Chase tactical. Galls. US Armor.

what's the most practical way to transport your gear around to where you go to shoot?
armor, helmet, guns and ammo are bulky as hell and I end up loading like 5 or 6 duffel bags into my car to go shooting. just wondering if there's a better way, maybe one big bag or box that you can just store everything to grab and go

>>29659650
Tac gear in a sturdy plastic storage box or duffle, guns in their cases, ammo in surplus .30 cans.

I need to get me some pelicans for my gear and favorite guns... But I can buy so much ammo and more guns instead. Tis a dilemma.

>>29659209
recently did a test on the AR500 armor, hit it a couple times with some 556, the spalling is REALLY bad, the coating is pretty meh

considering my work sells ceramic plates at 140/ea, id rather buy those and save the weight (and i buy em at just above cost so bam)

>>29660049
Any decent steel plates out there that's don't have awful spalling issues? Ceramic plates are very much one and done and seem to break easily. Also, what is a good budget plate carrier?

>>29660049
Spawling is only bad after 5+ rounds. At that point any ceramic plates would have already become dust.

>>29660058
>plates that don't have spalling issues
ceramics, retard.
life isn't worth a $60 difference between steel and ceramic.
do you think the physical properties of steel change because of a brand name?

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>>29656748
No it isn't. We are past this.

>>29660355
You have no clue about metal working, heat treating, surface preparating, spray coating, or taking one to know one. Retard.

>>29652347
is that a real GP or is that an airsoft grenade launcher

>>29654606
The number of camo patterns ever developed probably numbers several hundred.

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>>29652300

This.

Someone with no idea about camouflage just decided to use a pixel with no pattern so they could pretend to be modern.

VSR was objectively the best Russian pattern.

>>29662315
>VSR
>Not SS-Leto
>Not TTSKO
You're mistaken, anon.

n e w t h r e a d
>>29662501

>>29658148
I commend your good taste in camo and rigs.