Any Info about the Situation in Azerbaijan/Armenia? Media r

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Here are photos of a downed Azeeri gunship and pilots

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Dozens killed in Nagorno-Karabakh clashes
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/04/heavy-fighting-erupts-armenian-azeri-border-160402084508361.html

new war is comming? yay

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Here are the dead pilots

Wasn't this the place the US State Department went calling for democracy?
The lady if death who keeps showing up before confl8ct like a sexy Ares?

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Another burnt azeri pilot

>>29469004
all of the pockets are open lookin fo dat cash

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>>29468928
We Kicked those goat fucker's asses in the 90's and we will do it again. We already lost our mountain to Turkey, we aren't loosing this useless valley.

>>29468950
can anyone ID the helicopter?

reports of a flood of Armenian volunteers into recruitment centers, Azerbi MLRS being used near the town of Terter.

Azerbi forces have made gains near Karabahk and have begun to fortify the positions.

Fighting ongoing near the Armeni controlled town of Martakert

>>29469060
nevermind, turns out it was an Mi-24

Turks stirring shit again, same as last time

more info: Armeni artillery is being mobilized, with sightings of SKAD rocket artillery (ballistic missile with range of 180km) being seen near the Armenian town of Vardenis, moving towards the front lines.

footage of night fighting near Karbakh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-O0hDPVzWc

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>>29468928

On paper the Azerbaijani military is more advanced, they have mig 29s and more mi-24s, they have bmp-3s and t90s and about a 2:1 size differential in tanks, ifvs and aircraft.

>>29469188
Meh. Everybody loves rooting for plucky little Armenia, but the Orthodox-sphere in general is a bunch of faggots
>gangster state Russia
>Serbia, #1 believer in Jewish-HATO conspiracies
>Greece, 'nuff said

>>29469128
this looks like central europe 1892

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>>29468928
Daily reminder

>>29469234
But they suck ass at fighting.

>>29469234
Azerbi forces have a clear advantage with regards to artillery (they got TOS-1's, Smerch, T-155's, ATMOS 2000's and Msta's). Which they will use over their air assets as they don't have the equipment to spare (still have an aerial advantage over Armenia as Armeni only got 11 SU-25's) and Armenia has a decent amount of AA equipment.

>>29469263
holy shit that is hilarious, im going to start following him now on twatter

>>29469288
that was in the 90's. I wouldn't say they suck now considering the Azerbi government has sunk money into modernizing and training their armed forces.

In addition, there might be the possibility that they've learnt from their mistakes. Im not saying they're amazing, but to state that they still suck is a bit presumptuous. We'll see how good they are soon enough.

>>29468928
The Armenians kicked the shit out of the Azeris during the breakup of the USSR, but the Azeris have used the interim period to buy an assload of newer equipment and gear. The Armenians still have extensive dug in positions and the combined NKR-Armenian army, so I believe it would still be a close affair if the war heated up again. Would also be interesting to see how Russia, Turkey, and Iran react.

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>>29469110
>SKAD rocket artillery (ballistic missile with range of 180km) being seen near the Armenian town of Vardenis, moving towards the front lines.

Fuck me this is more serious than I thought. How many are dead on each side?

>>29469321
i always get confused when one source calls it SCAD and the other one calls it SKAD

>>29469326
about 18 deaths reported on the Armenian side with 35 wounded as of 4 hours ago with Azerbi reporting 12 of their own dead 8 hours ago.

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Armenia is allied with greece?
Greece hat its war with turkey?
uhh greek army soon !

>>29469376
Go Armenia go.

does greek have army with all of those debnts maybe they can send syrian refugee instead

>>29469348
Arty or actual ground combat?

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>>29469376
>Armenia is allied with greece?
no, they're both orthodox

Azerbi forces captured what they call an Armeni saboteur, no details on where or when he got captured.

pic related is a rough map of the hostilities.

>>29469408
no idea, these are just government reports. Though Azerbi GRAD's have been reported firing on Armenian positions, so a few fatalities could have been from that.

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>>29468966
>>29468982
>Filename
I keked

>>29469321
any info about SCUD Vehicle 103?

>>29469304
Russia is legally obliged to intervene
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_Security_Treaty_Organization

Turkey and Azerbaijan also have bilateral support treaty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreement_on_Strategic_Partnership_and_Mutual_Support

If either of the countries is attacked directly this will escalate into Russo-Turkish war. Which both Armenia and Turkey probably aspire to achieve right now.

>>29469455
>Which both Armenia and Turkey probably aspire to achieve right now.
both Armenia and Azerbaijan*

>>29469423
>armeniashits getting shrekt
Kek!

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Azerbaijani military spending : $ 4 bln usd
Armenian military spending: $447 million usd

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>>29469472

http://boards.4chan.org/k/thread/29465362/border-spat#bottom
This and the Armenia/Azerbaijani General on /pol/

>>29469494
>assrekt armeniboo
The next few days are going to be very sour for you, prepare your diapers

>>29469434
i've only seen one heli and one drone downed thus far, any info on the other things Armenia has claimed to have destroyed?

>>29469455
The only thing is that the territory is claimed by both countries. It isn't an attack on Armenian but an attack on "The independent republic of Karbakh" (which is under Armenian protection).

>>29469514
Fuck off, my family's there. The last thing I

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Here is one of the Israeli made UAVs that Armenia shot down

>>29469545
>was rekt by Azerbaijani attack helicopters

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>>29469514
Fuck off, my family lives in that region, faggot.
>>29469519
The casualty report is difficult to understand due to the inconsistencies in both sides
Armenian Casualty Report
>200 Azerjis dead
>2 Mi-24/56 helicopters down
>4 tanks destroyed
>2 drones destroyed
>30 Special Forces Azerbaijin dead
Azerbaijin Casualty Report:
>100 Armenians dead
>65 Armenians Wounded
>Strategic positions captured
>Admits 12 Troops lost
>admits one helicopter downed
pic related are Azerbaijani casualties, there is stil fighting occuring in Talish.
Talish
>http://youtu.be/GLE1ohdFvbM
One of the downed helicopter
>http://youtu.be/7ZctLBsJXPY
>http://youtu.be/NqatFUgMFxM
I'm having difficulty finding Azerbaijani reports. It's difficult knowing which is true and which isn't

>>29469692
Video evidence of Second Helicopter shot down.
>http://youtu.be/VwwGkdWw9aQ

>>29468928
So who is a good guy? Armenia seems to be a Russian puppet.

>>29469758
There is no good guy and bad guy in an ethnic war, let alone, war in general. Azerbaijin is aTurkish puppet but also a part of Russian influence.

>>29469787
>Azerbaijin is aTurkish puppet but also a part of Russian influence
That confusing. It's look like Azerbaijan have a lot of modern Russian weapons and a bit of Turkish weapons too. Armenia doesn't have shit.

>>29469810
Armenia have a Russian military base. That's all what you need to know.

>>29469810
>Armenia doesn't have shit
That's were you're wrong. Armenia has always been supplied and backed by Russia. Even to having a defense pact. The geopolitical situation with Russia and the two is that Putin doesn't want the two to escalate, otherwise he'll be forced to lose influence with Azerbaijin and aid defenses from Armenia.

>>29469758
Armeni are mostly Christian, Azeris are overwhelmingly Muslim. That settles it for me.

>>29469758
My family from my father's side lives in Armenia. During the war in the 90s, both countries commited acts of ethnic cleansing. Neither of us are clean, but I don't care, I'd do anythinf to ensure their survival. I regret being unable to get the dual citizenship, might as well get one now.

>>29469692
Good I hope they get removed and uploaded to liveleak so I can smoke pot and laugh at them

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqatFUgMFxM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLE1ohdFvbM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LafVHeK-e2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlgQyOCcxRM

>>29469692
This helicopter video is from 2014.

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But will we see a sexy K3 in the wild?

>>29469474

1/10th, we've seen worse odds than that.

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>>29469957

>>29469736
This footage is from may 1997, when a Turkish AS-532 helicopter shot down by PKK with a SA-7

Serbia provided these to Kurds, because Turkey was arming Bosnians and UCK

>>29470526
>>29469970
Fuck, damn timestamps

>>29469455
i dig it

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>>29468966
>>29469004
>>29468982

>>29469471
Turkey is doubtless looking for any possible way to drag NATO in

>>29470620
NATO is only obliged to act defensively for its own members, none of which are involved yet, and even if Turkey did it would be their own aggressive act and not affect article 5 in any way.

>>29470620
not gonna happen. not aftr the recent tensions.
also, regarding azerbaijan, how likely is it their military suffers from the same problems the arabs have, i.e. good equipment but poor training, poor organisation and an overboarding bureaucracy with no delegation? Their situation seems comparable, they are both rich in resources, ruled by a de-facto dictator who has to live in constant fear of a coup, and their muslims and therefore bring similar cultural prepositions into the equation.

>>29470672
>>29470656
It's not going to happen, but the Turks will probably try some false flags or something.

>>29469060
Super HIND or Mi-24 PU1

>>29470672
They are probably not up to western standards but they are probably up to Russian ones. Same level as the Armenians. The Azaris also have a relationship with Israelis so they might have received some training from there too. They might be Muslim but saying that that determines military competence would be like claiming French soldiers have same competence as Congolese ones. Arab military incompetence is due to a long list of cultural and political factors, Islam plays a rather small role in technical competence and a rather large one in moral.

But Armenians are fighting for survival, lose NK and they are done. Armenians have a good relationship with Iran, a counter balance to Baku-Ankara. Loosing NK means loosing that life line. So they will fight, just like in the past with much grater moral and the courage of a desperate men.

If it does escalate into a real war, the question will be will the Armenians be able to survive until Russia resolves the issues, by any of the means available to it.

>>29470656
Im pretty sure turkey would be left to dry no matter what.

>>29470803
the weird thing is that there is this kind of triangle unfolding right now. The West(tm), Russia and Turkey in some kind of mexican standoff, they are all beginning to dislike each other right now. If you ask me it's going to be a question of who of these three will ally with whom.

>>29470818
Pretty sure you need to lay off the vodka.

>>29470818
Good, they should be. Edrogan's regime deserves everything bad that happens to it.

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>>29470803
Ive got an increadibly basic understanding of this whole situation, so firgive me if Im wrong but a few minutes of googling tellsme that Azerbaijan is 85% Shia muslim, wouldnt this all line up Azerbaijan closer to Iran than Azerbaijan to Ankara?

This is the first time Ive ever really looked at NK, Armenia and Azerbaijan in detail, so its all a bit foreign.

>>29470893
The portion of the west that makes up the actual forces of NATO would not, at this particular juncture, decide to possibly start WWIII over a majority Muslim country whose government appears to have actively been trying to agitate some kind of conflict for a while now. Sorry. Not going to happen. Even if it kills NATO or it gets Turkey kicked out they aren't going to mobilize troops to help, ESPECIALLY American troops.

>>29470922
This.

>>29470949
Yeah, I don't think anybody is in a big giant hurry to defend Turkey. They're sliding back into the pit Ataturk dug them out of in an awful hurry.

>>29470929
Azeris are very secular, they were Soviets at one point. They're also ethnically much closer to Turks than to Persians.

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update:

Armenian Totchka U and Smerch spotted near the town of Xankendi

Azerbi GRAD's spotted in Karabakh

sorry for the hiatus, was at the gym

Does Armenia have any way to counter the T-90S?

>>29470982
near**** not in Karabakh

>>29470986
determination

>>29470986
they got Konkurs and Shturm as well as a few Milans for their infantry for long range contacts.

They got T80's (20 of them i believe) and about 200 T72's though only a few are confirmed to be T72 BA/3's. Don't know what the other variants are

So its Armenia vs Azerbaijan
but Armenia is a Russian puppet and Azerbaijan is influenced by Russia and Turkey?

>>29470978
They are, but they're very blood thorsty against us Armenians. We literally hate each other, the last conflict ended up with the both of us attempting erhnic cleansing in the region. We've managed around 700 Azerbaijanis removed and their invasion force killed off approximately 1,200 Armenians. If they did it once, they'll do it again. I'm not gonna risk my family to falling into their hands.

>>29471042
Azerbaijin is a puppet of Turkey, but Russia has been recently trying to get them out of Turkeys influence and into theirs for a much stronger buffer zone and field of influence in the Caucus. So far, its not working

>>29471120
*Are* you getting any support from the Russians? I don't grudge it a bit if you are, mind.

>>29470922
Let's be honest.

Ergodan is to Saudi Arabia what Putin is to the Soviet Union.

A decade plus long game of "I'm not touching you."

They're both wankers.

>>29471042
Azerbijan has gotten closer to the west (and through that Turkey), hell the Azerbi president was in DC recently lobbying the Americans for broader and deeper security relations.

>>29471134
Putin is in a bind, if he supports Armenia, he'll loose Azerbijan to the Turks and to the west. That's why he's been more or less neutral and is asking for a ceasefire.

>>29471134
Yes. We're very dependent on Russian trade and commernce in our military. Most of our equipment and indigenous firearms were highly influenced on them. If Azerbaijan were to go on a full offensive, then Russia is to fully cooperate with the defense pact and aid us directly with boots on the ground for our defense

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>>29471145
>Saudi Arabia
>Soviet Union

gr8 b8 m8

>>29469474

Azerbaijan inflates its spending numbers.

Their fighting force is shit and last time they fought Armenian volunteers (not even professional soldiers) they lost 5:1 casualties

>>29469736
Nope, that video was posten in 2011

>>29470929
They are also Turkic, but more importantly there is a large Azari population in the north west Iran and they make a large majority of population in the region around Tabriz. So from Iranian point, if NK falls, so falls Armenia and than the Azaris could come for Iranian territory, and there already is a conflict there,primarily political but it could escalate. And short term, Iran and Turkey are competing in the same region for dominance, Ankara is brother to Baku to Tehran has to be a cousin to Armenia to keep the balance and presence.

>>29470876
For a period now Turkey has been growing and as such has sought to expand its influence on its region. And that brings it in conflict with Russia on more than one front. Russia has been in decline and is looking for a way to reverse that and that means they have to strengthen their power in their region.

The West falls into two camps, US is willing to fight and contest even in serious situations, such as with Russia, but lacks resources to be everywhere. The shift to East Asia is the issue of US national security and takes precedence over contesting East Europe and the Caucuses from Russia so US is and will look for local allays, say like Poland and Turkey to counter Russia, they will do it for their interests but the overall result falls in line with US strategy. While the EU countries have no desire to challenge anyone, and are willing to exercise might only on people who can't strike back.

If it come to blows, US will help Turkey and EU will moan and bitch but do nothing until winner is known.

>>29471156
Aliyev visiting Washington is irrelevant, as Armenia's president was also in Washington just two days ago. Also, even though Russia wants to look like they have a neutral stance, they give free shit to Armenia and charge Azerbaijan for military hardware.

>>29471200

They 'give free shit' only cuz they border turkey and russia wants s-300s and s-400s as close to Turkey as possible.

Armenia does pay for a large amount of hardware.

Russia has 3000 troops in Armenia and more on regular exercizes.

>>29471168
not really, the budget looks inflated because it includes procurement of new equipment.

>>29471200
>irrelevant
Azerbijan has been spending millions lobbying the US for better relations.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/06/11/how-azerbaijan-and-its-lobbyists-spin-congress/

also, that's because Azerbi ground equipment tends to be newer than Armenian equipment.

For example: Azerbijan has 100 t-90's, the Kornet and BMP3's and Smerch's and TOS-1's while Armenia has t-80's, Konkurs and BMP 2's and other older equipment.

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Update :

Armenian Casualties : 18 dead, 35 injured

Azerbaijan Casualties : 200 + - dead, 2 Mig-24 shot down, 2 Israeli made UAV shot down, & 9 tanks eliminated

>>29471272
with all due respect that smells like propaganda. Thus far the Azeri gov has only confirmed 12 deaths and no wounded.

Got any info on the reports? the Nagoro-Karbakh government has previously made reports of massive enemy casualties that turned out to be false, so that makes me skeptical.

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>>29471258
>>Azerbaijan has newer hardware

kek

That hasn't hrlped them before, also, Mig-24 isn't shit compared to the super HIND, which is what Armenia has, as a pose to the Mig-24. So try harder mehmet

>>29471272
I wouldn't believe casualty reports like that even if the equipment advantage was switched. And I assume you mean Mi-24.

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>>29471331
history repeats itself.

>>29471322
>thinking im a turk
and here I thought it was going to be a decent thread. Im just here to look at non biased facts.

Kornet's and T-90's ARE newer than the T-80's and Konkurs. That's a fact, nothing more, and Armenia have the latter.

>that hasn't helped them before
they might have adapted, might not have. Who knows, I just wanna see how both sides do.

>>29471272
>9 tanks eliminated
Fuck me that sounds like a lot.

So possible no addition to the 'middle east general' threads then?

>>29471442
This area is known as the Caucasus, it's more Eurasian than Middle East

>>29468928

Armenia's camo looks like that experimental UCP-D from a few years ago, will there be any chance to find some after all this? Maybe a plate carrier or some uniforms?

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>>29471605
>Armenians suddenly start wearing Flora/Gorkas/SURPAT
:^)

>>29471308
The tanks sound reasonable, as for the dead troops, both sides are bullshitting.

>>29471642
kinda. The fact that they've shown dead Azeri troops but no downed tanks doesn't necessarily raise suspicion, but I have yet to see any pics of those. And considering the Armenians have been quick to show off pictures of dead enemy combatants and destroyed equipment, Im left wondering if its just that they haven't been uploaded yet or they are bullshitting. Plus no reports of Azerbi tanks in use (as of yet).

All im saying is im waiting to hear more on the info the Armenian guy has brought up.

>>29470986
>Does Armenia have any way to counter the T-90S?
Kornets.
>>29470803
>They are probably not up to western standards but they are probably up to Russian ones. Same level as the Armenians.
This meme again. Which western forces are we talking about? US, French, and British are definitely head and shoulders above but compared to say Germany and they are there with it.
Also Russians have showed themselves time and time again to be a peer force with the big 3 of NATO if only in skill(equipment is getting there with the rearmament efforts), even before the reforms that have improved them they handily stomped the Georgians who are actually in a very similar status with regards to skill with the Azerbaijans- having recieved training and advice from Western-leaning militaries.

>>29471685
There are a few issues with with. The Armenian side doesn't allow any footage to be shot, it doesn't even want people uploading the movement of military hardware within the country. Now the funny thing is, Azerbaijan denied the downing of a helicopter, until Armenia released the footage, so I'll just leave you to ponder at that.

>>29471685
>kinda. The fact that they've shown dead Azeri troops but no downed tanks doesn't necessarily raise suspicion,
Knocked out tanks doesn't mean its destroyed.
Knock out anything flying and its certainly destroyed when it inevitably crashes.

>>29471836
>>29471744
makes sense

>>29471887
I usually take it with a grain of salt until further evidence and acknowledgment from both side is announced

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stuff used by Azerbaijani operators

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnKZgHZKUSg

>>29471961
I thought mines were banned in warfare under current international law.

>>29472312
>current international law.
only states that have signed the Ottawa treaty "can't" (wont) use land mines. And at most you could be taken to the ICC for using them after signing onto the treaty. But they aren't banned under the geneva convention and you can always opt out of the treaty before using them.

TLDR: states ethically opt out and it isn't illegal under international law

>>29472348
plus Azerbijan hasn't signed the treaty

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa_Treaty

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>>29471961

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ1zAdheH-E

>>29469128
Jesus, why do all middle eastern countries have those stupid blue gates.

>>29469758
Jacob seems to be a good guy. Is that you, Holly?

How realistic would it be, if the shit hits the fan, Iran will intervene to support its ally Putin and to oust Aliyev and perhaps Airdogan?

>>29470949
>>29470959
Your opinions are irrelevant if Turkey is attacked by a state power.

>>29473064
With Iran's presence in Iraq and Syria, it's unlikely they have the resources to divert to Armenia. Even if they did it would take a weeks to get there. At best they would provide air assets in a SEED role.

>>29473116
*SEAD

>>29473107
The next US president has already promised to remove the US from NATO

>>29469474
Raw amount of money does not mean much. Take Japan and their crazy high overall costs or Brazil and personnel costs as examples.

No one is else is going to be involved, they'll want the status quo to continue and push for peace. The conflict is solely integral to the belligerents, there is no proxy involved here regarding Nagorno-Karabakh and no other nation wants to be involved in a territorial dispute that doesn't concern them.

You're better off just discussing Armenia/NGK and Azerbaijan's military actions.

>>29473116
Perhaps they will help overthrow Aliyev with limited troops and will concentrate on sending guns and advisors to the kurds to help ousting Erdogan and will let Armenia and Russia take care of Erdogan if he is not down after the defeat of Azerbaijan. A total military victory over him would not even be necessary,just enough to oust him.
The persian dominance over the south caucasus would be fortified and the turkish kurds would be best friends with iran in the aftermath and perhaps we will even see a kurdish state arise.

How much of Azerbaijan's infrastructure do you guys think relies on the internet? Could a DDOS attack help Armenia?

>>29473601
Imdoingmypart_starshiptroopers.gif

>>29473295
You say that now, but Georgia might jump in with Armenia if they get tons of fleeing Christian refugees.

>>29469975
what am I looking at?

>>29474409
>Christian refugees.
Huntington pls, Azerbijan can't do more than take all of Nagoro-Karabakh and even then the Christina refugees would just settle in Armenia. For them to make the trek all the way to Georgia would be stupid.

Even then, Georgia wouldn't intervene in either side because they still want to play the middle man now that they've left Russia's sphere of influence. They got luke warm relations with both countries so it seems illogical to think they'll come to the aid of Russia's key ally in the Caucasus.

>>29470803
Wait, so the Armenians, a past Soviet state that is overwhelmingly Christian is allied with Iran, a muslim nation, while the Azi's, a muslim nation are allied with the Turks and Jewish Israelis?

Jesus Christ this is going to be a goat rope, isn't it? This is a convoluted pre-WW1 mess again.

History may not repeat, but it sure does rhyme.

>>29474526
It's not surprising. Of all the Muslims, the Iranians are the least shit in the area. Turks and Saudis always funding jihadi head choppers.

>>29474463
Looks like soldiers, not sure if dead tho.

>>29474639
>>29474463
Armenian pictures of dead Azeri soldiers in Karabakh

>>29471744

That's a smart policy. To be honest, they whole thing about the Syrian War making for good footage has a lot to do with syrians apparently being completely fucking stupid and telling the entire world what they're doing and when and where and how and with what strength.

Ukraine footage is mostly either strait propaganda, or doesn't seem authorized. Just posted by volunteers.

The Georgian War, iirc, had very little media coverage during the war, especially after RUAF bombed a BBC camera crew (which of course is legitimate. operational secrecy and all that)

Most of the neat pictures we saw came out after the war.

Fighting has resumed after a lull during the night in which Armeni artillery was reported.

Now an Azeri offensive is taking place in the south of Karabakh and so far APC's and artillery have been reported.

Armeni hackers have reportedly taken down Azerbi government websites.

>>29475240
sources?

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>>29475297


https://twitter.com/Richard_RSC
for the reports on the Azerbi offensive

https://twitter.com/S_Zoppellaro
for the arty

pic related is pictures from Karabakh; supposed Armenian arty strikes

>>29475324
its on now!

>>29475334
not really, Azeri forces took mount lalyatyapa prior to renewing attacks in Southern Karabakh. My guess is that they want to push as far as possible so as to whither away the defenders before more reinforcements from Armenia arrive.

Now Azeri have announced a unilateral ceasefire.

Also:fuck you BBC for waking me up with that update

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>>29475939
deviously cheeky

https://twitter.com/CalvinFesserton/status/716560809510318080?s=09

top kek

>>29468966
>show charred corpse
>blur out dicks and balls
Fucking American, Christian scum.

>>29475939
Take land, call for a ceasefire and than bitch about an proclaim yourself the victim when it doesn't hold. Russian tier propaganda moves.

>>29476143
>Take land, call for a ceasefire and than bitch about an proclaim yourself the victim when it doesn't hold. Russian tier propaganda moves.
When have they pulled such a move? need to update muh narrative.

>>29476171
Open the map of Europe, look for a small country called Ukraine. Russians take part of land and than call for a ceasefire and when Ukrainians refused declare them the aggressors.

>>29471272
>Mig-24
WTF Mig-24?

>>29476194
There was never a war though. 15k of 20k uki soldiers in Crimea have joined russian army even.

>>29476171
It was EU/USA actually. After they saw their UA friends being slaughtered by separatists they called for peace. Russia is still pretending that she has nothing to do with the conflict, just a concerned observer

>>29476205
I was referring to the Donbass region. But you are right there was no Russians there. Just oppressed Russian civilians who decided to rebels against dictators from Kiev and took with their tanks onto the streets.

>>29476232
>I was referring to the Donbass region
But they haven't claimed lands as they did Crimea there, yet.

>>29476202
probably meant mi24 which is the Hind

>>29476232
>and took with their tanks onto the streets.
Now let's be fair here, they didn't have tanks at first. A few surrounded ukranian armed divisions abandoned their tanks and ran over russian border, and only then separatists aquired some tanks. I believe it was russian term, we let you save your lifes, you live your vechicles intact for rebels to grab. (Maybe Russia gave them a few tanks after that, nobody was counting).

>>29469957
dude weed lmaoo

So Azerbaijan has lost a bunch of T-90S's?

>>29477665
Acording to Armenia they lost some tanks (but no proof as of now) but it wasnt said which ones.

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I bet the Donovians were behind this!

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>>29468966
Oh fug, benis :DDdd

>>29477831
They also got t72's so they could have used those in their offensive and kept the t-90 s in reserve. Well know soon enough

>>29474542
Iran's a good boy! Hezbollah and Quds Force don do nuffin'!

>>29477854
Served in SAPA while in Atropia, that was some feirce fighting. Not even the foolish Americans could defeat us

>>29470656
Doubt Armenia or Russia will attack Turkey directly. If they fuck few Roaches in Armenia/Azjan NATO won't have to respond.

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>>29477854
>mfw I actually trained with this

Few new points

Turkey, Belarus and Pakistan have offered military aid to Azerbijan.

A few mortars landed on the Iranian side of the border, prompting the Iranian border guards to issue a warning to both the Azeri and Armeni forces.

More artillery fire from both sides.

Ukraine becoming involved by asking the OSCE Minsk Group to activate talks on the Karabakh conflict.

>>29479300
>Belarus
wait, I get the others but why Belarus?
Am I missing out on some political backstory?

>>29479314
Azerbijani news has reported it

http://m.haqqin.az/news/67233

The Belorussian president called his Azerbijani counterpart to express concern and the "Foreign Ministry of Belarus has expressed a clear position supporting the inviolability of the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan."

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>>29469494
>It even has a cute little Apple laptop.

>>29468966
He didn't fly so good

>>29479395
Tbh this confuses me. T*rkroaches being able to afford nice things like an Apple laptop, yet alone being able to use such complex machinery, seems unreasonable.

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few pictures and a video of the conflict

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icu2BUxZ3Vs

pics are of Armenian forces

>>29479439
It's there for show. It's probably a Chink bootleg as well frankly famiglia.

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>>29479457

>>29473521
Yeah I am sure Iran a country with multiple ethnicities would love for Kurdish state to arise and balkanization to occur. I am wondering how PJAK would strength once the Kurds turn to Iran.

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>>29479467

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>>29479475

>>29479489
Conflicting reports over the possession of the town of Talish in Karabakh, with Azerbijani MoD stating that it is under their control, after Armenian officials stated that they had recaptured the town

>>29474526
>Wait, so the Armenians, a past Soviet state that is overwhelmingly Christian is allied with Iran, a muslim nation, while the Azi's, a muslim nation are allied with the Turks and Jewish Israelis?
Have you been living under a rock? It's been this way a while. [Establishment Sunnis + West] versus [Shi'is + Orthodox] versus [Jihad Sunnis]. Those are the only relevant factions in the world right now.

>>29479314
>>29479392
>Belarus siding against Russia
holy shit

https://youtu.be/t4jUAHjChxU

Armenian drone captures the aftermath of a btfo Azeri position

>>29468966
20 mins into Allah akbar & chill

He gives you this look

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Are azeris getting BTFO yet?
Judging from their performance in the 90s its really only question of time before they get rekt

>>29479457
that looks like digital camo ww2 era fatigues
fucking armenia
based af

>>29480818
Their offensive has ground to a halt. Can't tell if it's political pressure, Armenian reinforcements finally arriving to the front lines of their general incompetency.

Most likely the first two as Azerbaijan is under political pressure to end the fighting and is having go face Armenian reinforcements arriving from Yerevan. Though they've held their ground thus far against counter attacks (reportedly).

Who knows, only time will tell

>>29480865
Or***

During the first war between 1988-94, Azerbaijani military was under command of a journalist and a plumber. Azerbaijanis were discriminated during Soviet rule so they didn't have much high ranking officers. Their military organisation was in a huge mess.

Armenian military was under command of a four star Soviet General.

In last 20 years Azerbaijan organised their military well. This time they will most likely crush armenians but probably right now they stopped the assault due to political pressure. Still they got some of their stolen land back.

On paper Nagorno-Karabakh belongs to Azerbaijan. So a limited war shouldn't trigger Putin but nobody knows what this corrupt dictator will do. Also he will have a hard time due to Panama documents and his $2 billion in off-shore accounts, so he might use this as a smoke screen.

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>>29481875
>turkposting this hard

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>>29481875

https://twitter.com/Zinvor/status/716711142496800768

>>29482200
Fucking savages...

>>29480730
Judging from the video, the Armenians have shot down one Mi.24 Helicopter, 21 Kills Confirmed against the Azeris (Compared to the report of 12 KIA from Azerbaijins MoD) and what looks like one tank destroyed.

Azerbaijani "trophy". No different from ISIS with their beheadings and taking them as a trophy.
>https://mobile.twitter.com/Zinvor/status/716737321069096960
Azerbaijani "Special Forces" (Not sure if they are or if they're not). KIA, 4 RPG 26 acquired
>https://mobile.twitter.com/Zinvor/status/716632461971759105
Armenian Artillery team bombing Azeri positions. God bless and keep my family safe boys.
>https://mobile.twitter.com/Zinvor/status/716782240034922498/video/1

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>>29481875
Cry more faggot.
>Thread Theme: http://youtu.be/ioN8pzx1G50

The Ruskies better step in for the Armenians or their salt as Allies will be questioned

>>29483717
We can not do this openly, because Karabakh is de jure Azeri clay. Shitstorm from the west will be immense.

REMOVE KEBAB
ALL MUSLIMS ARE ANIMALS

>>29481875
> Also he will have a hard time due to Panama documents and his $2 billion in off-shore accounts
$2bn? That huge demoting from previous $100bn claims. Putin just got trouble sleeping from these revelations, lol, sure.

>>29483657
Are you an Armenian or Azerbaijani ?

>>29483808
Look at how badly the Armenian weaponry is inferior to the Azerbaijani.

MiG-29s,T-90 .

Just bring nukes to the table,Russia won't even have to fire a shot to bring the Azerbaijanis to ceasefire

>>29469036
If this were one of the cancerous boards, I'd bet my intestines we'd see a US flag pretending he's Armenian.

>>29483808
Oh please, you guys eat up the trade deals with Turkey and the West. Hell, even your government is lobbying for further relations with the US. Russia only gave you those weapons because:
a.) Putin wants to remove Western influence from your country by having a neutral stance in the conflict and making trade deals with your government
b.) Putin wants reinforcement with the buffer zones in the Caucus and influence in the region, thus needing your government and Armenia's to cooperate otherwise he's forced to attack your government if they ever invade Armenia
c.) Armenia at the time was attempting to start relations with the EU, the deal was also contributed to Armenia's loyalty with Russia, and guess what? It worked, Armenia immediately stopped and joined Russia's economic pact.
Either way, we're not handing you NK, that has always been our land ever since the founding of our kingdom.

>>29483989
I'm half Armenian, my father was adopted. I'm still trying to get a dual citizenship. So far, I'm having trouble finding sources to see what the Azerbaijanis claim on their side. Any help would be grateful, since both sides have been bullshitting with their reports.

>>29484095
I'm russian, not armenian though.

>>29484126
Exactly how much disputed land we're talking here ?

Because the Armenians should capitulate if the Russians don't help out

Gotta feel bad about the Armenians,I did a project on The Armenian Genocide by Turks

Best of luck to you and your people

>>29479697
Azeris are Shia.
The Iranian - Azeri conflict has nothing to do with the Shia-Sunni conflict, but stems from the fact that Iran sees Azerbaijan as their land.
Iran backed Armenia back in the 90's in the original Azeri-Armenian conflict, which was seen as a betrayal by the Azeris and created the hostilities.
This was later cemented by the Azeri supporting Azeri separatist movements inside Iran (southern Azerbaijan).

>>29479720
Russia is yet to take sides, plus it could be a misquote... they could just be offering to sale them some equipment.

>>29481875
>This time they will most likely crush Armenians

a military without fighting experience crushing in a mountain/high hills combat... doubt it.
Furthermore, the Armenians are fighting for their lives, or at the very least they believe they do, while the Azeris are fighting an offensive/expansionist war that they have started. Such things directly effect moral and so the quality of the troops.
The Azeris may win, but I'd doubt it will be easy.

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>>29484234
1,700 square miles or 4,400 square kilometers for metric users. Population is a majority of ethnic Armenians. Tbe Azerbaijanis tried tk change the demographivs in the region to gain claim of the land during the Soviet Union, we're not allowing those criminals from cleansing our people again.

>>29484431
Of course we're fighting for our lives. The Azeris has always tried to change the demographics during the Soviet Union era and have attempted ethnic cleansing during the war in the 90s. The moment the Azeris step into Armenian soil is the moment Russia steps in to stop them due to our defense pact (Just like the US defense pact with Japan). We acquired that territory fair and square during the first war amd we're not going to allow them from taking it from us. Otherwise, they'll genocide the people either violently or demographically.

>>29484535
Well that's too much land to giveaway.

>>29484600
>We acquired that territory fair and square during the first war
that sentence is a bit of a conundrum considering they're "regaining the land lost".
>genocide our people
that makes more sense

>>29484632
We'll we're still basically at war with Azerbaijin since we haven't signed any peace treaties afterwards, we only signed a ceasefire compliance. Thus we're still at war, although it has gotten a bit cold until now. I still recognize that occupied land as my people as it has been in the past and in the future. The problem is that the Azeris have the West on their backs, and Turkey is a large player. The Turks hate our guts, and they're more than willing to aid Azerbaijin if the conflict goes South

>>29484601
It really isn't when the land is composed of ethnic Armenians in the Nargono Karabakh Republic to be annex with Armenia. Not to mention that territory was acquired theough the first war and will remain so. We can't compromise anything with the Azeris since they'll refuse anything unless all of it is theirs. Not to mention the land acquired is approximately a meager 13% compred to the whole country. The capture of NK to Azerbaijan is the death of my people living in that region

>>29484234
>>29484535
>>29484600
>>29484601
>>29484632
>>29484700
>>29484772
Seems to me it's just better to offer up this: Armenia evacuates all Armenians in NK to Armenian territory, gives up the majority of NK.

Meanwhile Azerbaijan gives up Nakhchivan to Armenia and takes most of NK, the amount of land traded is a fair and even split. Anyone in Nakhchivan who wants to go to Azerbaijan may do so freely during this switch.

Seem fair?

more arty being fired by Azeri troops. Armenian troops claim to have recaptured large swathes of land in the north.

Because of conflicting reports between the Azeri and Armenian governments, its difficult to know if the reports are true.

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Oh god I hope this escalates, finally something interesting going on. I mean can you truly say that you're living if you're not for total kebab removal?

>>29469263
fucking bants machine

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>>29484632
They regained a couple of posts on April 1, but yesterday morning the Armenians regained those posts & have taken additional areas in weren't in their control before.

>>29479720
Idk seems pretty real " Minsk supports a peaceful resolution of the conflict in accordance with the generally recognized principles and norms of international law, first of all, on the basis of respect of sovereignty, territorial integrity and inviolability of borders, as well as relevant resolutions the UN Security Council and OSCE decisions."

I think they tried some political maneuvering and fucked up because well... slavs

>>29469128
Thanks for the shit video

>>29480865
Seems like Armenians took back Talish. As they posted the "results of Azeri attack".
http://razm.info/ru/

http://en.aravot.am/2016/04/03/175185/

I have Armenian sources.. Any news from Azeri side?

I'd like Armenia more if they weren't constantly bending over backwards to fellate Russia.

Not to mention all the Armenian diaspora in my hometown were annoying fucks.

>>29484022
in the 1990s war, Armenia had literally no air force while Azerbaijan had sizeable air force piloted by experienced pilots from all across the USSR and the situation was similar in other areas as well.

yet they still got rekt

>>29484022
>Lose war

>Start to throw around money to get shiny toys.

>Still can't do shit.

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>>29487202
Armenians and Russians see a common enemy in Turkey for their own reasons. Turkey needs be expelled from NATO before they can invoke Article Five.

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>>29468928
>tfw you will never operate with a battle-priest

Why are you still breathing /k/?

>>29487253
as much as people on 4chan like to meme about t*rks, Turkey is a more valuable partner in NATO than most other member nations. They just need to boot Erdogan before his Ottoman revivalist fantasies send him over the deep end.

In all honesty, there will probably be conflict in Turkey pretty soon. Erdogan is tremendously unpopular with most of the country, and the old secularists he removed from command in the military still command a lot of respect among enlisted men.

>>29487309
I thought Erdogan was popular with Islamists and nationalists who are still a majority there.

>>29487335
Islamists, yes. Nationalists can go either way. All the secularists would have to do is conjure up shades of Ataturk and mount a relatively united political front and Nationalists would flock to them in droves.

The main issue is that Erdogan has almost complete control over the national police force and the media a la Yanukovych. Erdogan's starting to step on a lot of toes, though, including the US. If he gets to uppity I'm sure a more direct leadership change wouldn't be out of the question.

>>29487364
Didn't he ban Twitter and Facebook at one point?

>>29487169
eh, most videos on YT i've found are similar. Same goes for liveleak

Azeri and Armeni forces in charge of press leaks are doing their jobs well. Most things i've found are post fighting videos of wounded, shitty arty videos or like the one I posted.

most "in the moment" video i've found was an Armenian soldier surrendering.

>>29487364
Also thank you for the info, anon.

>>29487391
Did he get beheaded?

>>29473149
Who?

>>29487390
He's banned all sorts of shit at one time or another. In years past he's usually remembered immediately afterwards that his government is supposed to be a secular democracy and undoes it. Recently he's been getting more bold, though.

>>29487400
no, just approached with a white flag across a field, got yelled at and vid ends

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=04b_1459717288

Turkey is a lynchpin for the Mediterranean and the US would never let it fall.

Not to meantion they are a nuclear shareing state.

Armeni MoD reports 3 enemy tanks knocked out during morning clashes, no indication as to where or when it happened (apart from happening this morning).

Old news but apparently Armenia has lost ten tanks yesterday against Azeri forces (same source for both reports, plus its from a "neutral" i.e. Russian news source)

>>29487471
They also reported a grad

so it sums up to around 16 vs 12 tank kill count in favor to Armenia...

>>29469036
This isn't the original armeniball version of this image, why the shit edit?

>>29487446
Strange... Veeryy strange.. Also why did they turn off the video? Did one of them go full Allahu Snackbar and shot the guy?

>>29468928
Postan arty footage.. Don't know if this has been already posted and am too lazy to check.

http://sputnikarmenia.ru/video/20160404/2739292.html

>>29469976
Looks like an SA80 was raped by some drunken AK Slavs

>>29488145
>Armenians
>Slavs
Its literally a bullpup AK-74

>>29486334
Why should Armenia give up anything? They won that land in an armed conflict and now they are defending it. Simply giving into demands when threatened is not accepted in that part of the world.

>>29486334
It would seem fair, but neither government would accept it. Not to mention the scale of migration would be like an exodus

>>29486334
Nay, Azerbaijin only lost a meager 13%. Not to mention that they still owe us for the ethnic cleansing of the region since the Soviet Area despite their stubborness to deny it

This is actually nice, a clean video of people and explosions coming together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQNscspaDQk

>>29488413
that video is old tho, at least three months old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJSIPdpui6s

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>>29487418
Meet NATO spending goals or enjoy beets instead of burgers yuroserf

Some updates: Azerbijan has claimed to have killed 30 Armenian soldiers and three tanks (don't know if the tank kills are the same as those claimed previously).

Reports of TOC (my guess is that they are talking about the TOS-1), heavy arty being used in the front lines.

Armenian president meeting with OSCE members in Yerevan.

>>29489277
Alright then, lets list the casualties inflicted so far from what we can confirm compares to the claims from the evidence provided due to the bullshitting on both sodes for propaganda purposes:

Armenia:
> 33 confirmed kills total to Azerbaijani troops (Drone footage of trench (21), three dead pilots from pictures, 4 special forces where RPG 36s were acquired, 5 special forces from the footage in Talish.
> 1 Drone shot down (Picture evidence)
>1 Mi. 24/56 Helicopter shot down (Video evidence), *total claimed is 2.
>1 Tank destroyed (Drone footage), *claimed total to be 4 due to three more tanks reported destroyed.
Azerbaijin:
>18 Armenians dead
>2-3 Armenian civillian deaths
>35 Armenians wounded
>30 Armenians *claimed dead, *claimed total is 48
>*Claimed three tanks destroyed

>>29489475
Correction: RPGs 26

>>29470620
NATO would not fuck with a well armed and equipped power.
No doubt NATO would roll Russia, but the lives cost by the war would no doubt cause major upheavals in all involved nations - people simply aren't used to massive cost of lives anymore and any deaths are seen as failures of the powers that be.
What would make it a total meat grinder is that Russia has a completely different idea of warfare and loss - they have martyrs, they fucking bless their weapons with priests, massive odds would not affect the population like it would western powers.
It would be a fucking blood bath.

>>29471036
Still a lot of doosh if they know what to do with it.

>>29471635
I want nothing more in life that SURPAT Gorka 3.

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can you ID these soldiers?
are these azerzis or azerbajanis?

something interesting happend today..

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>>29489801

>>29489801

Thats Azerbaijani soldiers.

>>29489801
Azerbaijan soldiers.

>>29469758
What part of "REMOVE KEBAB" don't you understand?

So, if this blows up into a full on proxy war between Russia and Turkey, who wants to volunteer and go remove Turkroach?

>>29490019
There were plenty of volunteers last time plus huge support from Diaspora community. Armenian volunteers won that war with captured and donated equipment and supplies bought with money sent from Armenian churches around the world.

Artsakh is Armenia!

>>29479408
He was a pretty dense boned guy

>>29490042
I'd be all over that shit like DEUS VULT.

>>29490019
My motherland is calling for me.

>>29490057
for you

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>>29489801
>something interesting happend today..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jscclzP_wyM

<- webm

some persons wonder why the other side shoots back

its like north korea border war
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrJMKMOuJkQ

>>29490267
>Sitting static on the top of a hill after firing.
Genius.

>>29468966
Did he have a death boner?

>>29490224
BRB, going to make some pest control patches.

>>29490474
well. its all new for them.

>>29490512
He was killed whilst operating a Hind, aka flying tank.

>>29490527
Well, they won't be around long enough to get good at it then.

Time for a 6 month operation in Armenia, Putin.

>>29476095
Turk roach detected

>>29490019
It won't, Russia can't allow anyone to become a sole sponsor of a country in Caucasus. If they side totally with Armenia they burn a bridge that they can't allow to burn, especially since Azerbaijan is an important economic partner and buyer of Russian military goods. Plus direct military action would unnecessarily antagonize Iran as well. Putin will push for a ceasefire with all the diplomatic capital he has.

>>29490774
>antagonize Iran as well
Why would it?
Iran is Armenian ally.

>>29468928
of course putin is pleased, he benefits greatly from political instability...

>>29490791
Because Iran has interests in the region as well, Iran and Russia are allays of convenience. Caucasus and Central Asia are ares where Iran should expand its influence along with ME. So if Russia intervenes directly, and asserts military solution than Russia becomes the unchallenged master of the Caucasus. Its not something serious like it would be between Turkey and Russia but its still something that will affect diplomacy, at least in that if Russia does go in it will buy Iranian support through some arms deal or something similar.

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>mfw vatniks don't realize Russia is buddies with both sides

>>29487364
Probably the first and last sensible post here. Hate speech doesn't yield much in these threads.

Interesting Update :

The Armenian authorities have confirmed the deaths of numerous islamic extremiat fighters on Azerbaijans side.

>>29491236
No surprise - last time there was Mujahedeen, Chechen, and other assorted elements embedded in the Azerbaijani forces.

Remove kebab, remove roach, etc.

>>29487364
This is one of the most positive evaluations of Turkish political scene from the opposition perspective that remains linked to reality by a single thread.

There is no real opposition to Erdogan. He controls 50%+ of the parliament, the problem is also that the other 50% are controlled by groups that can not work together. CHP , Kemalists, can work together with HDP and MHP but MHP and HDP can not work together. And this was before the start of PKK conflict. Now no one can work with HDP. If CHP tries it will lose a large part of its base and MHP would rather crown Erdogan Sultan than work in any fashion with HDP. The biggest threat to AKP was AKP, the Gulen wing, and Erdogan solved that, he cleansed their institutional influence and is now moving on their secondary sources of power, the media, companies.

Erdogan doesn't face any opposition that is capable of over throwing him. The army has almost no chance to intervene no matter whose support they get. If they try they will be resisted and a coup would require use of force and for what. The end result would be making Erdogan a martyr, and in a few years there would be another conservative Islamist party in power that would probably imprison or kill anyone involved in a coup.

And he hasn't really been steeping of US toes, more like Obama's but his term is almost over. Geopoliticaly Turkey has played and plays the role the US intended for it, a counter to Russia and Iran. And as Clinton and Cruz are both far more confrontational than Obama they are going to lean on Turkey even more to counter Russia. So unless Trump wins Erdogan only has to wait a year or two and than he will be in good graces of the White House once again. Also what ever move the Kurds, both KCK and KNC, planed they have until January to pull them or they are going to be forced to really on European support if they come into conflict with the Turks.

https://twitter.com/taylieli/status/716963308428009472?s=09

>>29491747
I sure do love seeing combat footage with green stuff in it. Breaks the monotony of brown that we see coming from the middle east...

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here, have some more azeri corpses

>Kamizake UAV used by Azeri forces
Supposedly an IAI Harpy 2 drone. Now that's fucking sick. Wish the video captured the impact

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCtjjpqF73g&feature=youtu.be

Azeri air force il 76 spotted heading to Israel, similarly RuAF il 76 heading to Yerevan. Looks like both countries are getting more equipment

>>29492427
Pretty sad that Isreal would help kebab over any other religion. I guess shekels > morals.

>>29492502
>shekels>morals
nah power> everything.

If you want to realize why Israel does 90% of the things it does just read up on neo-realism and realism. Israel loves that IR theory to the point where they are the embodiment of said theories.

Turkey and Israel are buddy buddy. If they can get another country in the region to be aligned to them, the better. Plus the fact that they are next to Iran would help.

>>29488325
>>29488381
>they still owe us
This is precisely why non-Western countries can never agree to anything. Here's a hard, hard fact of diplomacy: sometimes you have to take it on the chin and smile.

I'm not saying forgive them, I'm not saying forget (absolutely do not do that) but making an even border with no special interests on either side would give you something easy to defend. Plus that little pocket of land you don't own? Behind your territory? That's now yours. Easier to defend if your ass isn't exposed.

>>29488365
>Not to mention the scale of migration would be like an exodus
Yes, I imagine it would be but it would settle things pretty neatly. It would give both sides an opportunity to prove to the world they're not thugs and barbarians, and I say this as somebody who thinks Azerbaijan has been consistently in the wrong: it doesn't necessarily mean Armenia was in the right all the time.

Of course, as you've said, neither side would accept it.

>>29492635
Being a cuck is not a good thing

>>29489801
>>29489826
Previous posters are wrong, those are Armenians (check the camo).

Also has the fighting continued?

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>>29492635
>> Azerbaijan Ceasefire terms : Give up Nagarno-Karabagh, thrn we can discuss and better relations.

>> Armenia : Suck a dick nigger

Armenia updated its casualties

20 soldiers killed

72 wounded

26 missing in action

4 civilians were killed, including one child.

>>29492785
The Armenian side lost three positions in the South (over which battles are still going on), five positions in the South (over which battles are still going on). Of the total loss of 200-250 square meters.

>>29492693
>Being a cuck is not a good thing
Where did I say that? Here, I'll explain it carefully for you:

I said give a little so you have a better defensive position to conduct a war from, and when the Azerbaijan government up and declares it wants to invade again (which it will) you will have every right to pull an Israel and take everything you willingly gave up. Nobody will complain, you will have given them every chance for peace and they would be the ones to throw it away.

>>29492740
Beat them squarely in battle and keep offering the same thing. They'll get the hint eventually.

>>29492838
^This. Azerbaijin just want us off the map. Either we do some sort of compromise giving us an advantage or we continue fighting them off our acquired territories.

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>>29492635

Oh shit nigger you literally attained the "merkel voting" stage of severe cuckification. Please refrain yourself from such devious thoughts in the future for your own good and society as a whole.

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>>29492868
See: >>29492838

I guess this is what they call the "white man's burden."

>>29492785
Alright then, updated list of the casualties inflicted:
>Armenia:
> 33 confirmed kills total to Azerbaijani troops (Drone footage of trench (21), three dead pilots from pictures, 4 special forces where RPG 26s were acquired, 5 special forces from the footage in Talish.
> 1 Drone shot down (Picture evidence)
>1 Mi. 24/56 Helicopter shot down (Video evidence), *total claimed is 2.
>1 Tank destroyed (Drone footage), *claimed total to be 4 due to three more tanks reported destroyed.
>Azerbaijin:
>20 Armenians dead
>4 Armenian civillian deaths, including a child
>72 Armenians wounded
>26 Armenians MIA
>*Claimed three tanks destroyed
Are there any further update on Azerbaijani casualties?

Agdara reported to have been taken by Azeri forces, Armenian OSA's seen heading towards the front lines

>>29492929
nah, only Armenia is reporting Azeri casualties, and as always each side blows enemy casualties out of proportion for PR and morale points.

You guys will love this. Lavrov has not cancelled his trip to Baku as many suspected because of the fighting. He will meet with his Iranian and Azerbijani couterparts there on April 7th

>>29492977
Also the Armenian president has threatened to recognize the independent state of NK (Nagoroh-Karabakh) if hostilities continue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=351&v=oH0kC_yNBn4

Armenian news on the conflict

>>29492587
>If you want to realize why Israel does 90% of the things it does just read up on neo-realism and realism. Israel loves that IR theory to the point where they are the embodiment of said theories.
could you elaborate on that? what could i read on the subject?

>>29493066
Realism and neo realism are international relations theories that basically dictate that the safety of the state and the increase of state power are the only thing that matter. Alliances are only to be formed and kept if the state stands to gain from it. Its basically a pure rational actor with no morals.

States are assumed at a minimum to want to ensure their own survival as this is a prerequisite to pursue other goals. This driving force of survival is the primary factor influencing their behavior and in turn ensures states develop offensive military capabilities for foreign interventionism and as a means to increase their relative power. Because states can never be certain of other states' future intentions, there is a lack of trust between states which requires them to be on guard against relative losses of power which could enable other states to threaten their survival. (excerpt from Wiki).

Best example is how the Mossad didn't tell the US government (even though it knew fully well when the bombing would happen) of the upcoming suicide bombing on US troops in lebanon. This is because it didn't stand to gain anything from helping another state, even if it was its ally.

TLDR: Israel (states under neo realism) want to maximize its own power and will do anything to achieve it. If it does not stand to gain from an alliance or from helping other states, it won't help/take part in alliances.

If you wanna learn more. Read Kenneth Waltz "Theory of International Relations." its a good read

>>29492723
Thats Azeri camo and theyre.not speaking Armenian retard

>>29469263
I fucking love the internet.

>>29493538
Check the news footage dumbass>>29493015

>>29476075
>Born to early to explore space
>Born to late to explore the world
>Born just in time to experience real world trolling

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Here is a picture of more dead azeri kebabs, apparently wearing Israeli Fibrotex Technologies camo

>>29491548

I don't really see Trump having any major problems with Erdogan. To be perfectly honest, they're on the same wavelength as leaders. All of the stuff people get mad about Erdogan doing is stuff Trump is arguably OK with having happen.

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>>29493538
That's Armenian fucking camo, look at this pic here. It's the same. Look even the fucking shoulder patch is correct, it's Armenian.