Battle rifles are obsolete and you can get the same looks and

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>>29467261
>you can get the same looks and handling from smaller
They're just saying that to make you feel better.

You're wrong OP, a 1911 will never be obsolete.

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Why do we keep making these threads? Just to suffer?

>>29467629

Dat height over bore. Dat cheek weld.

>>29467655
Russian Style Chin Weld Time

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I love battle rifle

>>29467606
Ooga booga dindunuffin has a scar and I don't.
Fml

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>>29467688

>>29467261
Who cares

>>29467655
>Dat chin weld.
FTFY

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>>29467606
>>29467688
Shit-tier grunt
>AK
>dusty maroon beret
>chicom chestrig
>old scruffy DPM jacket and OD pants

Nobleman
>G3
>bright red beret
>body armor
>full DPM cammies

Operator
>SCAR Masterrace
>helmet
>tacticool molle platecarrier
>commando sweater

>>29467629
>overgrown 1970s style pinky nail for sniffing cocaine

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So Kenya/3rd world thread?

>>29467629
Way to guard that Rhino!

good job!

seriously though, when is somebody just going to start cloning the fuck out of that thing and reintroduce them to the African wilderness.

we've been cloning bulls for years (bull riding), cloning a rhino shouldn't even be a challenge.

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>the last dinosaur

>>29468178
that look on both of their faces. one of pure terror and the other hoping he's not going to be forced to shoot the rhino.

both of them definitely respect that rhino and are fully aware that it could kill them if it chose to.
gotta love American press and their idiot ideas.
I'm American as well by the way; I can just picture the photographer making the request.

So /k/ tell me why the g3 is so widespread in Africa? It must be good for something right?

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>>29468350
Better than AK.

>>29467710
>be nigerian private
>be sad face all day

>>29468120

Also they could probably introduce a population of cloned rhinos to Texas or something and make it easier to protect them.

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>>29468350
.308 was the main export caliber of the West during the Cold War.

Slav allies got AKs and supplies of 7.62x39mm.

Western allies got G3s/FALs and supplies of 7.63x51mm.

>>29468518
*7.62x51mm

>>29467261
Looks and handling are subjective.
Power is a scientific measure.
(in real life, of course)

>>29468511
>rhinos get added to local rodeos.
I would definitely pay to see that.

>>29467683
That range is a dump and you should be fucking ashamed.

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>>29467683
>having multiple berm stops
>not making one huge berm 150 yds back

>>29468511
>>29468561
>hurr not ethical
Wasn't there some serious discussion about cloning and growing extremely endagered species in the States and just letting the real ones die from Africa?

>>29468749
if there was, the only decent ethical argument would involve the introduction of a non-indigent species to a new environment (see pigs, pythons, cane toads, and rabbits). plus this would be an extremely effective means of reviving the white rhino population (especially since that one specimen in the pic is the last of it's kind).
plus the cattle industry has been employing cloning for various purposes since they cloned the sheep.

As for the rodeo, no animals are harmed any worse than they are out on the range (barring accidents involving cantankerous bulls). the individual events in the rodeo are all based directly upon the tasks required of those who manage the herds (usually called cowboys).

>>29467320

what kind of sight is that?

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>>29468572
>>29468626
Its a free public range 20 minutes from where I live where you can shoot anything you want (minus tannetite and 50BMG) with no range officers and rarely any people. Hate on it all you want, but I had a ton of fun shooting shaken up ginger ale cans on the second and third berm. The benches are higher than the range so at 25 or 150 yards you are still shooting down into the berm.

>these gelatinous anons

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>>29468350
>why the g3 is so widespread in Africa?
It's cheap to buy. All their hand-me-down Commonwealth L1A1s are finally worn out but only Brazil makes FALs anymore, however Turkey and Pakistan crank out G3s for pennies, and Northern Europe is dropping 7.62x51 for 5.56x45 so there's lots of surplus G3s available. If they want to stay REAL FUCKIN' NATO they have to go with the cheapest option, since they can't afford large numbers of SCARs or 417s.

>>29469175
>dat open field on the right
A stray .308 is easily effective up to 3 miles.

>>29469368
careful u might kill some corn or a mule deer

>>29469368
Guess its a good thing I shoot at the berm?

If I miss in a manner that is going to send that round 3 miles, a berm wouldn't have stopped it cause it would be going way over. Also this range is in the middle of bum-fuck-Egypt North Dakota

>>29468547
>implying battle rifles don't objectively look better

>>29469418
implying nothing
I use small, clear words on purpose
you may chose form or function, depending on your needs / wants

>>29469149
Looks like a Weaver Quick Point.

>>29467261
Show me where I can purchase an actually decent HK93 clone and I'll admit you're right

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>>29469732
https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/zenith-z-43-p-5-56x45mm-nato-pistol-detail.html?Itemid=0

The rifles aren't here yet, but you could SBR one of these.

>>29469778
>$1,500 for completely unproven Turkshit
C'mon now

>>29469789
Go buy yourself a C93 I guess.

http://www.kellyenterprises.net/firearms/kellyenterprises-omega-german-rollerlock-pistols-rifles-and-sbr-s/kellyenteprises-omega-ke-93-full-stock-5-56-rifle-pkg-detail.html

>>29467710
>belgianarmy2050.jpg

>>29467261

The point of BRs is that their larger caliber rounds are ballistically superior in every way (power, range, speed, and accuracy) than the rounds commonly used in modern assault rifles.

>>29467261
God damn it, is there any way to mod a G3 so it DOESN'T mutilate the brass? I've wanted one since high school, but I handload now. I don't want my brass getting chewed up. That's a no-no.

>>29468749

It's been suggested quite a few times to introduce large african animals into Australia. The animals would like it and the Australian ecosystem has a need for such animals, ever since the fucking abos killed all the big fauna 40,000 years ago.

>>29469878
Port buffers have been a thing for a really long time.

>>29469901
Tell me more.

>>29469901
>>29469920
Yes, how the hell do you bypass the fluted chamber problem?

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>>29469920
You put it on the ejection port and it helps protect the brass since that's where the majority of the damage occurs.

>>29469942
The fluting damage is minimal compared to the ejection.

>>29468518
How much of a difference is there between the two rounds?

>>29469953
/scribbles note

Thank you. Anything else I can do to save my brass without affecting the reliability of the weapon? Are there aftermarket extractors or, I dunno, something? I'm an AR guy. I know little of the kraut battle rifle except I want one.

>>29469960
The .308 is way more powerful. You don't see people going elk or bear hunting with the old Soviet round, as a general thing.

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>>29469942
The fluted chamber just puts a few lines on the case; they're just cosmetic damage. The lip of the ejection port dents the fuck out of the hot case wall as it ejects; that's where the real problem comes from.

The port buffer is a chunk of rubber riveted to a metal shell that clamps over the top of the receiver. You can see one in pic related, and on >>29468042

>>29469985
>they're just cosmetic damage
PTR owner here, I have actual flutes along my spent casings. As far as I know, though, most ammunition manufacturers use softer brass than what reloaders generally want anyways

>>29469979
Ok, I was just like there is only like 12mm difference and I always forget how round measurments are translated

>>29470054
/Googles the stats

7.62x39 = 35.6 grains case capacity driving a 123 grain bullet

.308 = 56 grains case capacity driving a 150-180-grain bullet

They're in different leagues.

>>29469960
7.62x51 is a full size round, comparable to old bolt action rifles.

7.62x39 is an intermediate round. Much more comparable to 5.56 or 5.45

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>>29470054

It's an assault rifle round vs a full power round. The 7.62NATO has a much further effective range owing to it's flatter trajectory and higher velocity. The downside being that it's heaver, bigger, and harder to fire rapidly. Basically the battle rifle vs assault rifle argument that's existing from the beginning.

>>29469960
night and day, 7.62×39 is a intermediate which behaves like a slightly milder 30-30 while 7.62 NATO/.308 is a full power rifle cartridge designed to replicate garand food 30-06's performance in a smaller package

>>29467683

>range looks like a literal dump
>bayonet stuck in the dirt

pig disgusting

>>29467261
Battle rifles fulfill the role of a marksman's rifle within a unit. Battle rifles aren't quite obsolete yet.

>>29470238
As expected of ptr owner

>>29470238
Should I be worried about getting my wittle baby wifle dirty?
>>29470479
Its not a PTR, friendo :^)

>>29470525
Six of one...

>>29470533
U wot m8?

>>29469778
Why SBR when you can just get the HK-style pistol brace?

I'm looking to get one of the 9mm pieces of Turkshit.

>>29470547
I'm saying that whatever derivative of cetme, it not surprising that it's at a range that's become a field of trash.

>>29469368
good thing he's not shooting in that direction

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>>29467261
I really wanna buy this and throw a PA 5x on top.

>>29470691
Why not build an AR10 for less?

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>>29470525

no but you should perhaps care for it by not sticking the bayonet into the ground damaging its edge and point.

Its your gear so whatever.

Ill keep a keen point and double edge on mine though.

Its meant to go into people not rocks.

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>>29470632
Do you desire a photo of that rifle at a nicer range?

>its an original Century CETME
>one of few that actually works

>>29470709
>caring about the sharpness of a bayonet
>implying you will ever do anything with that other than attach it to the rifle for a photo op
I'm dying over here.

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>>29470707
Because if I'm doing an AR10 I'm going to do it right. Cheap AR10s look like ass
>>29470720
I shot one the other day coincidentally

>>29470776
You put the mags in your chest rack? I discovered they fit but they sink right to the bottom

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roller delayed is for faggots.

>>29470720
how can you tell how original a Cetme is?

I know it should be based off of the serial number, but what numbers should I be looking for?

>>29470749
Reddit detected.

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>>29470749

say that to my face faggot and not online, see what happens.

>>29470823
If it is a C308 then it is new and not a true CETME. If it says CETME on it then it is probably an original one. I bought mine from a guy whose had it for years shortly before the C308 came out

>>29470802
Yeah I had to dig a little to get them back out but when I get one eventually I'll probably use paracord to make magazine tabs. The 30 rnd FAL mags fit perfectly.

>>29470832
what?
>>29470851
You just seemed overly concerned about the well being of a $17 knife. My AK bayonets would probably give you an aneurism

>>29470019
Self reloaders mean less new purchases so it can very well be planned. Or they just cheap out on materials because cost.

>>29470811
>spot the tranny

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>>29469920
>>29469942
>>29469973
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=312593

>>29470939
How does that optic work? I know it's some Vietnam era shit but is the funky top tube for illuminating the crosshairs on the sight?

>>29470937
Spotted one

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>>29470879

I'm just havin a laff m8

that is a Vietnam era military issue bayonet with scabbard. Since its authentic I like to keep it nice. IDK how many real deal M14 bayonets are out there but I do know they aren't making more from the 60s..

pic related is a modern one I have on my 590A1. I think the older ones were more classy.

I would really like a G3-style rifle (probably a PTR-32 or one of the HK33 clones for more affordable ammo) but I'm worried the charging handle will be an issue.

I'm left-handed and it looks to be placed in a really inconvenient position. Haven't seen one locally to try out. Anybody use one left handed or want to try shouldering it that way and tell me how annoying it is?

>>29470973
It's an OEG. You don't actually look through it, it's opaque. Think of it as a passive red dot, it puts a little dot in your vision where you want the bullet to go, but you're not looking through a lens.

>>29467261
with that logic, forks should be obsolete since you have spoons that can do almost all jobs that a fork is used for.

>>29469878
For as long as you've been a on /k/ getting close to a decade of tripping,how the fuck do you not know about port buffers. You amaze me sometimes

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>In the early 80’s, El Salvador equipped their forces with the G3. >The average recruit was about 16 years old and all of 5 feet tall. These guys were tough but they couldn’t reach the cocking handles on their G3s with the weapon shouldered. >The good news was the plastic broke off the cocking handle, leaving a hole in the metal exposed. The hook on the H&K sling could be attached to this hole in the cocking handle instead of the sling attachment point. This allowed you to step on the sling and load the G3. >The American advisors referred to this as “kick starting”.

http://loadoutroom.com/1216/heckler-koch-g3-the-last-sturmgewehr/

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>>29471473

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>>29470776
>dat P83
Sexy.

>>29470802
>but they sink right to the bottom
Do this:
>>29470867
>use paracord to make magazine tabs
It makes the mags way easier to get out.

found used g3 grips for $1 online if anyone wants the link

> mfw you're absolutely right in all but the most niche circumstances (i.e. Afghanistan)
> mfw the same thing is true for 9mm over .45 ACP
> 1911s are even better in 9mm

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>>29470973
It's a fiber-optic reflex sight.

>>29471161
>Anybody use one left handed
I practice with my weak side, and though it's more awkward having to reach over the rifle it's not impossible. IMO though, unless you have a super boner for the HK-style rifle you should find a more lefty-friendly option.

>>29471177
It's not an OEG.

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>>29471161
>>29471869
Not a problem senpai, left handed operation of the rifle with supporting right hand on the charging handle is not a problem, in reality it feels like it's more on top than the left side so you aren't even doing any reaching even with the rifle shouldered and pointing straight downrange.
I think the HK slap is even better with lefty stance.

But then again I'm a guy who thinks that lefties have an advantage on kalashnikov ergos.

Safety is pretty meh even with right hand on grip, I hear it's meant ton operated on the supporting hand and not with thumb. Lefties hand reach over the gun with right hand or break grip hold and use index finger.
Conversions to lefty safety are available as even Germans did it to their soldiers.

Some of the grooved grips are right handed and even those don't feel bad on the left palm but when you switch to right hand it feels right.
Again you can change grips how you like.

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>>29471743
Damn, I can't wait until Ivan ships my SADF rig. Just bought a shit ton of mags, I'm ready to go full apartheid.

>>29472072
>french style ankle strap boots
>rhodie camo trousers
>rhodie chestrig
>T-shirt
>beret
>G3 with a fucking double shoelace/string sling
Why aren't those slings a thing with your babypoop FALs?

>>29467320
Boo this nigga! Booooooo!

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Why are there so many fucking g3's in africa? Who sold them to them?

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>>29471869
I googled a bit about that sight and it's so cool. I like the looks and all retro kind of stuff, on top of all it needs no batteries.

Gonna start to look for one, they seem to be 50-100 dollars. They'll appreciate in value for sure, let's check price again in 20 or 50 years.

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>>29473481
>they seem to be 50-100 dollars.
If you're not paying literally a dollar for it at a yard sale, then you're not doing it right.

>>29467261
Don't care still love my FAL

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>>29473575
Prove it fggt; make love to her and take pictures.

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>>29473436
portuguese mostly afaik

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>>29473436
Probably Turkey and Pakistan. No more FALs to buy and SCARs are too expensive.

>>29473805
G3 dudes operate and FALs are given to FNGs.

>>29468495
>>be nigerian private
>>be sad face all day
this reminds me, whatever happened to the Congo militia guy? Aint seen one of his threads in quite a while.....

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>>29474042
All of those are the FNGs

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Jambo /k/, my name is Chad Jomo-Grorno.

I'm a 27 year old American Bruddah (African Enthusiast). I draw poverty and disease on my tablet and spend my days not eating and experiencing health defects (diarrhea, starvation AIDS).

I train with my sharpened twig every day, this superior weapon can shoot straight through a wet tissue because it kicks ass, and is vastly superior to any weapon on earth. I earned my twig license two years ago, and I have been getting better every day.

I speak Swahili fluently, both the hibbity and the bibbity accents, and I write fluently as well. I know everything about African history and their complete disregard for civilized life, which I follow 100%.

When I get my African visa I am moving to the Republic oif the congo not to attend a prestigious high school and learn more about their magnificent culture. I hope I can become a dirty water collector or a diseased ridden youth.

I own several loin cloths which I wear around town . I want to get used to wearing them before I move to Africa so I can fit in easier. I have unprotected intercourse with my elders and seniors and speak Swahili as often as I can, but barely does anyone manage to respond.

Wish me luck in Africa!

>>29474776
k

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Blumpkin.

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>>29474776
>I speak Swahili fluently, both the hibbity and the bibbity accents
Ken-sama goes to Africa.

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>>29476927
That's the joke.

Also thanks for that rare Pepe.

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>>29467629
>MFW cocaine nail
holy shit ahahah

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it snowed a little

>>29474776
>both hibbity and bibbity accents
MY FUCKING SIDES

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>>29477405
And now today it's going to be 60°.

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>>29477465
do they make a ptr in the hk91 fashion where no rail but paddle release

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>>29477502
They have it on their website but I haven't seen it in stores. The HK91 didn't have a paddle release though.

>>29477502
>>29477558
I've heard that you can order it directly through PTR. I think some people got one from buds. I'm not 100% about either of those though.

>>29477465
Is it your first year in the great lakes?

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>>29477502
>do they make a ptr in the hk91 fashion where no rail but paddle release
Yes, but apparently no retailer has ordered any yet.
http://www.ptr91.com/products/PTR%20G.I.?id=23

>>29477690
28th.

>>29469403
Where in bum-fuck-Egypt North Dakota?

So my escrow check finally came in and I'll be ordering link related:

http://www.ptr91.com/products/PTR%2091%20KFM4R?id=5

Thing is I want a new stock and hand guard before it gets in (the stock stuff looks horrendous, but it's the only model with the barrel I want and the welded rail).

The stock is no biggie, but with the short cocking tube, what do I need to look for to make sure I get one that fits? I would prefer wood furniture if that matters.

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>>29478257
ew

>>29478300
That's why I want new furniture before I even get it in my hands.

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Think im going to pick up a pair of PTRs here shortly now that my FAL is all good to go

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>>29478319
understandable

>>29478327
you should even it out with an m1a and one terrible g3 variant

>>29478336
>you should even it out with an m1a and one terrible g3 variant
Id rather deal with the G3 stuff first since the surplus is going to dry up. M1as arent going anywhere and the surplus is already gone.

Also I need to collect all of the roller lock clones to increase my power level. Already have C93 and POF mp5 (in the mail).

Gun virgin here, how much do FALs go for and where would I acquire one? Would I just have to order online?

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>>29478257
>what do I need to look for to make sure I get one that fits?
HK33 / G3K forearm length is the same.
>I would prefer wood furniture if that matters.
Then you'll have to cut down a wood G3 forearm. Not difficult.

>>29478350
>How much
Depends on the build
Century for $700-900
Kit builds for $800-$1800
DSA Voyager $999
DSA Para $1800
FN Originals $3000+

Avoid anything made by hesse/blackthorne/vulcan unless you want to fucking die.
>Where would I acquire one
Gunbroker
Falfiles
Local pawnshop
Local gunshop
DS Arms

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>>29478346
>C93
sweet jesus pls tell me you dont shoot it

>>29478350
from 850-3k+ depending on inch/metric/kit build/DSA/FN
a cheap kit one will be under 1k
dsa will start at 1k for the voyager
1.5k for an sa58
1.8k para folder
fn 2.8k best

>>29478336
That paint job...
Ugh it's terrible

>>29478417
tfw its supposed to be bad

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HK33/93/insert your favourite clone here with 40 round mag and wood stock is literally STG44.

>>29478427
>it's bad on purpose cop out

>>29478388
>sweet jesus pls tell me you dont shoot it
I got a good one with 0 bolt gap move between rounds. Active duty FBI weapons armorer also liked it when he got to shoot it.

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>>29478482
ive seen worse

>>29478508
i wouldnt trust feds

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>>29478468
>long-stroke gas piston moving a tilting-bolt
>roller-delayed blowback
Literally.

>>29478529
>ive seen worse

Pneumonic plague's a lot worse than bubonic, but I'd rather have neither.

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>>29478557
big words for roller delayed blow back

>>29478542

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>>29478120

>>29478360
I'm not against the OD polymer, but I've heard I'll have fitting issues with the bull barrel. I assume the HK33 forearms will have the same limitations?

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>>29479675
>I assume the HK33 forearms will have the same limitations?
It only applies to the slim plastic ones, and in the US those are very uncommon in 33 length. Wood ones are GTG even on heavy-barrelled PTRs, as are the wide forearms in 33-length.

>>29480153
Ah. Looks like I'll be cutting a full length one down then. I'm a fan of the thinner guard look.

Thanks for the info

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>>29480220
How big are your hands?
I have sasquatch hands, and specifically chose girthier handguards

>>29480290
About average, nothing crazy either way except for my dainty ass fingers...

I'm a form over function guy anyway lol

>>29480373
Picking up a second 17s, putting on narrower handguards in case my GF wants/needs to use it. If only the handguards were in stock.

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>>29467261
>Battle rifles are obsolete
Having fun never becomes obsolete in the civilian world, and full power rifles are ALWAYS more fun to fire shot per shot than their smaller caliber counterparts.

>>29480849
>neither in the pic are battle rifles

>>29480849
Dis man has a PSL, I like you. I like you alot. What year is yours? Mine is a 79

>>29480987
If any ak variant was to be named a battle rifle it would be the PSL without the optic.

>>29478388

God that shit is so ugly

>>29481057
Whats yours look like?

>>29480987
Mle.49/56 is definitely a battle rifle.

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>>29480987
Actually, the MAS absolutely is a battle rifle. Just an earlier one. The psl definitely is not, but just there to support my full caliber argument.
>>29481022
This, but it's still not one technically. But it's probably the closest the slav nations ever got to making one anywhere recently, that I know of anyway.
>>29481022
79 also, I erased the other numbers on pic related but left the year. I'd still say it's the most fun rifle to shoot out of my collection.

>>29478417
Are you unaware of the history there? That paint job is intentional in color choice and application.

>>29481033
>quoted the wrong guy
This, but it's still not one technically. But it's probably the closest the slav nations ever got to making one anywhere recently, that I know of anyway.

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How am I doin guys?

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>>29481209
>not a SOCOM 16
Breddy gud, breddy gud Anon.

>>29481209
Vortex hunting scope?
Id change that brake out to something better.
Asides from that, assuming it groups well enough at range to justify the bipod, looks good.

>>29481233
Honestly, its my first rirst rifle, got a cheapish scope to get aquainted with it, didnt pit it on until i got comfy with irons.

Also that bipod is sexy as fuck, i wint even lie, rule of cool made me get it

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>>29481230
Wat am i lookong at

>>29481275
Who made the scope mount?

>>29481285
an inferior rifle in the snow

>>29481286
YHM 1" scipe ring set

>>29481299
post your BR, anon

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>>29480987
mas is a BR
PSL isnt

>>29481299
If its the Socom 16 i understand, but aesthetically speaking the 16 makes my dick diamonds

so is the g3 like a prolonged mp5

>>29481333

Did they feed pigeons lead and have them shit on top of the bullets to form the SP?

>>29481362
MP5 is miniaturized G3

>>29478388
C93s are either great or trash. Century's QC was really hit and miss. I've fired a couple thousand rounds through mine and the bolt-gap is fine.

>>29481362

No, the MP5 is a shortened G3.

>>29478327
I saw you at the range today. You have a nice fal man

>>29481401
You didnt go up to him and say hi let alone ask if he wanted to get a little gay in the parking lot. What is /k/ coming too?.

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>>29481401
>playing stalker IRL

>>29481377
>>29481372
are you srs

>>29481438

Yes. The G3, MP5 and HK33 are basically the same thing repurposed for different cartridges.

>>29481401
>>29481434
>>29481436
In my defense I went to shoot my Lee enfield. This guy who appeared to be 50 brought out a nice FAL and I was oggling it from afar with my friend. Me and him are only 18,19 so this older gentleman looked intimidating. Anyways, this FAL has the same exact same paint job as the range one.

>>29481401
>>29481434
>>29481436
>>29481476
That wasnt me, I am only 20 and I spent the day packing boxes

>>29481705
Woah. Where is that paint job from? Is it milsurp furniture?

>>29481710
>Woah. Where is that paint job from? Is it milsurp furniture?
Its from rhodesia m8

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>>29468042

Indeed, the hierarchy is quite clear.

>>29481710
It's called having >>29478388 pic rhodesian paintjob and being too lazy to fully scrape it off the plastic parts.

>>29481942
My paint job >>29478327 is 100% original

>>29483279
That place looks like a shithole

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>>29483296
Yup.

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>>29483296
obviously they use g3 variants

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>>29483524

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>>29483668
europe in 2016 is north africa fampai

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>>29483668
>Swede
So if your country uses a G3, it will look this soon?

>>29467261
The HK33 is absolute sex compared to the G3.

>>29483805
Kinda like Rhodesia except with Muslims instead of niggers.

>>29481286
Im an idiot, you meant the the actual mount huh? Its a springfield arms mount, solid hunk of steel, heavy as fuck for its size

>>29483805
Whereas if your country used an FAL, it already looks like that.

>>29483992
M14 mustard race

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>>29470691
I went with the A3S because I like PTR's bull barrel.
Put a 1-6x on it and I love it.

>>29471473
It's not for manlets.

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>>29478120

>>29485589
>pls no bully.jpg
At least you know whats its likely to draw before you posted it.

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>>29485589
>A3S because I like PTR's bull barrel.
A3S... doesn't have a bull barrel tho.

>>29485630
Am manlet; cannot confirm.

>>29485716
Anybody know what camo that is?

>>29485716
>A3S... doesn't have a bull barrel tho.
Well shit, must have been looking at the FR.
Might order another one and put a longer barrel on it anyway.
Still love the bitch though.

I shouldn't order things tired.

>>29485743
Marpat?

>>29483296
>tropical paradise

>>29486231
>look dad I posted it again
>shut up and and keep on sucking you tranny

>>29467261
Have fun shooting your $1000 varmint rifle. Leave the adults to the real shooting.

>>29467261
>looks
What?

>>29473467
>you will never EVER fuck momo

why even live

>>29487599
>Its not accurate enough for a varmint rifle

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Alright, I'm looking for wood furniture for my PTR 91 but I can't seem to find it in stock anywhere. How often do these get re-stocked or is there somewhere else I can go that has them?

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>>29488865
>How often do these get re-stocked
Rarely. PTR bought most of it a couple years ago. Your best bet is Ebay or Gunbroker, or find somebody that will ship from the EU.

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>>29485589
A3R here.. What scope?

>>29489954
Thats a Primary Arms/Vortex/whatever 1-6 optic

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>>29467261

Why not both?

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>>29489993
Because .308s look better, even in whats essentially the same gun.

>>29490013

Looks yeah, but the 16S is more fun too shoot tbqhwy

>>29490035
Depends what your looking for while shooting.

>>29487621
samefag

>>29490013
>get 20 round 5.56 straight mag
>fool people you have SCAR 17

>>29480987
MAS is objectively a battle rifle, PSL depending on configuration can be.
>>29481361
>>29481333
jesus christ do they know what QC is?

>>29490415
It wont have FAL ribs on it.
You would fool the uninitiated though

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>>29490426
this shit is old im guessing its made in the uk according to the mark i have three boxes one was already opened ill shoot it the other two ill save

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>>29481401
creeper status 5000

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Can anybody identify the rifle/mag in this pic?

>>29494437
Optic* not rifle

>>29494437
G3 variant and HK clear mag

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>>29494437
That's an MKE polycarbonate magazine.

>>29494658
Thanks.. Any idea on where to find them? My googlefu is weak as fuck.

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>>29496037
Zenith Firearms is working to import the poly G3 and HK33 mags right now; supposedly they're waiting on approval from the Turkish Ministry of Defense for the export. Some came in a few years ago and were sold via HKParts.net.

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>>29467261
Are the choate folding stocks for g3's a shit? Pic not related.

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>>29496469
>Milspec M4 stock on a G3

>>29497356
Because the A4 collapsing stock screams comfort

>>29494481
You know that's for EGLM, not for backup sights.

>>29498663
Not right now you don't

>>29496093
Thanks senpai. I hope they get them through, I think they look pretty tits.

SVT is a battle rifle?

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>>29499991
no

>>29499991
yes

>>29499998
why? it was made for these tasks.

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>>29500081
sorry morning retiredness thought i read SVD

yes the SVT40 is a battle raifu enjoy it SVD isnt

>>29470169
>It's an assault rifle round
KILL YOURSELF

its called an intermediate round

>>29500100
Why is an SVD not?

>>29472172
Actually those boots were based off of the American M43 double buckle boots

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>>29500142
its a DMR

>>29500160
DMR implies accuracy.
I guess to russians 1.5-2moa is accurate
Well. At the time it came out a semi auto 2moa gun was pretty damn accurate.

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>>29500186
well slavs also dont believe in cheek welds either

>>29489954
What bipod is that?

>>29500303
Its not an atlas, so its shit

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>>29500303
>>29500309
Hk bipod made for the g3 with the wide handguard.
>ignore the socks

>>29500595
Like I said

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>>29500599
That atlas is uggo and is have to attach a mount somehow which I didn't want to do. This attaches directly to the handguard without modification so it's what I wanted.

>>29500605
Why would you even use a bipod on that thing?

>>29471473
>29470749
Actually I remember a feldwebel telling us to do this in an exercise during my BW time. With blanks the G3 was notorious for not cycling the next round and so our manlets didn't feel left out like they did when God handed out the growth hormones.

>>29500633
Because I want to.

>stop liking the things I don't like

Put your trip back on tranny

>>29500730
>Anon doesnt like my shitty rifle
>Must be sakuya without a trip

Only time I trip is as QB fag

>>29467261

sometimes I want something that hits harder and kicks more

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>>29494451
Some kind of older Burris.
Kind of looks like the C4 to me.

>>29489954
It's made by a company called CCOP.
Same OEM as the 1-6x PA, Millet, and probably Vortex has as they're all Chinese factory tubes. Pretty good glass on it considering it was < $200.
Mine came with Millet flip caps.
There certainly are better scopes out there that give better clarity and quality, but I quite like this one for the price.

>>29469182
>Turkey
>Pakistan
>USA
>Iran
>Greece
>nigeria
>Saudi Arabia
All still manufacture the G3 family. Nigeria and Saudi Arabia may have slowed to a trickle but they still manufacture alot of parts.

The FAL is only produced by
>Brazil
>USA
>Argentina - slowed to a trickle - mostly producing just parts

G3's are just flat out easier and cheaper to
produce, and G3 production = HK33/MP5/etc production

>>29469778
I wouldn't touch a turk .223 HK or .308 HK - Century C93's are usually g2g and at worst need a little gunsmith love and some parts from HK parts - overall much cheaper
And Turk HK .308's, while decent, do not hold a candle to PTR-91's.

Hold out until he turk's start importing semi auto G41's if you can (Modernized HK33 that for some unknown reason lost out to the inferior G36)
G41 features:
-Bolt Hold open device
-Forward Assist
-Dust cover
-Port Buffer (shell deflector) integrated into front of forward assist assembly
-1:7 twist barrel
-uses AR mags
-folding carry handle
-Better, easier to reach mag release (no paddle mag release) because AR mags

Turkey is the only country in the world producing the G41

>>29469942
>fluted chamber problem
It's called a tumbler - cleans it right the fuck up

>>29469878
>Dents
The reason why G3 brass has a shorter lifespan is because on ejection the brass hits the back of the ejection port - denting the brass.
Dented brass in this fashion can be reloaded but you are realistically looking at 2-3 less reloads per case (good cases, with proper trimming can usually last around 10 reloads anyway so it's not a super huge issue).
Port buffer or German brass deflector


Now guys I have an issue - I have a newer PTR-91 with Paddle mag release and the welded top rail (because fuck claw mounts).
Port buffers cannot be mounted onto welded top rails - unless they are cut up and welded onto the reciever (not about to weld a port buffer on my shit when on some guns they can knock brass back into the action)

My main goal for wanting a buffer is so my brass doesn't fly all over the place, isn't a range hazard, and stays close to me so I don't have to scour a range for my brass, and for the extra life it offers my brass.
That leaves me with only 2 apparent options -

1: Rail mounted brass catcher
or
2: Late issue German style welded on brass deflector - can stick on thin rubber padding to the inside of the deflector

Is there any other way for us guys with welded top rail PTR's?
Are the plastic port buffers made anymore - it seems like that would be an easy mod to work

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>>29503189
G41 was meant to be Germany's main rifle and G11 for special forces but East Germany unification ruined everything.

>>29470851
Great Bayonet, shit gun

Should have built a BM59 instead

>>29503189
>G3's are just flat out easier and cheaper to
>produce, and G3 production = HK33/MP5/etc production

agreed.

>The FAL is only produced by
>Brazil
>USA
>Argentina - slowed to a trickle - mostly producing just parts

If you're not able to afford a FAL, you prob can't really afford 308. The cheaper made g3 is far from the zenith of battle rifles.

Is 9X39 an intermediate cart?

>>29471161
Having shot enough HK's and PTR's from either shoulder:
It won't be bad if you just tilt the rifle sideways and ratchet it with your right hand to charge.
Locking it open is another story, and you better have the right arm strength to open those rollers so you have to be manhandling it.

Getting an extended (read HK11) charging handle is a fucking must for you.
And don't even consider buying a G3 style unless it has the paddle mag - the button release blows even for right handers - so that leaves you with retrofitting an older HK/PTR with a tac latch or buying a brand new welded rail paddle mag PTR (I have one it's fucking great - paddle all the way)

Aside from that an ambi selector, but they are easy to find.

>>29471473
That's actually an incredibly good idea - lefties could attach a ratchet strap to that also.
Just be advised if you've never handled one without the plastic - they are fucking sharp and can cut you up - wrap tape around that shit

>>29503433
As a lefty, I don't find the button too bad
>Palm on mag, fingers around mag, thumb on release
>Press button, rip out mag
>????
>Reload

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>>29503424
Yes, for sure.

>>29481209
Normally I hate on M14 lovers and Springfield owners, but the Scout Squad is just too damn sexy.
Do your research, swap whatever needs swapping with GI parts

>>29503494
This, I think it's better for lefties. No need to stretch index finger on grip.

>>29481373
Even the trash ones can be made great by a smith for less than it will cost to buy a turk/HK/non century US made HK33.

C93's are a bargain

>>29500605
And the wider hand guard/bipod combo is bretty rare anon

>>29483805
The swedes cut the front sight off their AK-4's, bought B&T rails (Actually the best there is) when they could have gone weld on, slapped on red dots, and gave them all to the Hemvarnet (home guard).
Overall incredibly fucking stupid of them.
>Hurr durr it's better to just give these homeguard monkeys a red dot and call it a day than to actually train them marksmanship and iron sight usage - we have to cut off the front sight because it blocks durr

Fuck the swedes

>>29503579
Besides Ghillibear, do you know of anyone else who does work on them?

>>29488865
HK parts always has some wood in stock - you might not find everything.

I've just signed up with Atlantic as a dealer (will confirm in a day or two) and I'm wondering if that FAL they have, the SA58 w/ folding stock and 18'' BBL is a good option? I'm unsure about FAL rifles, are the barrels chrome lined?

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>>29503189
>USA
PTR has no military contracts, and likely never will. They are not equipped to hand large-scale production.
>nigeria
Actually produces the FAL; they bought all their G3s from H&K, and have mostly sold/given them away.
http://www.dicon.gov.ng/military.html
>Saudi Arabia
Astonishingly, they renewed their license to produce the G3 as recently as 2008.

>I wouldn't touch a turk .223 HK or .308 HK
>Turk HK .308's, while decent, do not hold a candle to PTR-91's
They've been making the rifle for 40 years; PTR Industries has been making it for 11. I think I know who has more experience in the field of sheet-metal sculpting.

>>29489954
>nearly 300 dollar HK bipod

Jesus

>>29489954
Vortex or NF 2.5-10x

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>>29503608
>bought B&T rails
AK4b rail IS welded on; you're thinking of the AG3F2.

>>29503397
I own both - a full sized PTR-91 with welded top rail, and a Imbel 16" Para
Believe me I by no means think the G3 is better. Economies of scale is much less for the G3 series which is why it will continue to be produced and fielded

The FAL is more ergonomic and infinitely superior in carbine form and as a suppressor host, and optics mounts are a no brainer.
The G-3's strength is as a full sized rifle and as a DMR - those who cannot get a welded top rail have to get a B&T

>>29503613
Literally anyone who builds roller locks or does smith work on roller locks will unfuck a Century C93 or CETME for you

>>29503801
Fair enough friend, so what would be the closest thing I can buy in the US, to a swedish AK4

>>29503634
I thought PTR had contracts/short orders to produce small parts for the G3 series for like countries in South America. Practically all of the parts are made in house now. We already know they've had some LEO buys, wouldn't it be safe to assume Mexico has bought some parts from them?

>>29481196
>Rhodies painted their guns with high gloss paint

No, color may be accurate but that high gloss finish is gross as fuck.

>>29503634
>They've been making the rifle for 40 years; PTR Industries has been making it for 11. I think I know who has more experience in the field of sheet-metal sculpting.

Both use HK tooling so it's a crapshoot. PTR-91's now have all the features you would want out of the box (except a brass deflector/port buffer).
The turk guns are too expensive, for that kind of money I might as well push a little further for an HK91

>>29503840

Which AK-4 variant?
The original or the cut iron sight home guard model.
I personally thing the Norwegian AG-3F2 with B&T rail and handguard + OD grip and HK collapsible stock is the sex

If I ever had to fight /k/ I'd equip my army with battle rifles just to watch you faggots turn on each other and unleash the autism until firefights break out.

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>>29500134
>being this autistic
Jesus dude, they're the same thing.


>cliiiipz

>>29490013
Is that yours, anon? damn son that's so fucking sexy

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>>29504079
Babby new to battle rifle threads?

>>29490013
For once, a scar that isn't in that ugly-ass tan color.
Those actually aren't disgusting looking in that color.
>would buy

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>>29504100
Not mine but I'm buying a second 17s and going to set it up almost like those. Ta11c acog, handl hg if they get them in stock, shooting site trigger, might go ACR stock though.

This my current one

>>29477374
It's most likely a nose picking nail for boogers. People in Europe do it all the time.

>>29469149
>everytime.swf

>>29477820
The Hk91 didn't have a paddle release from the factory actually. Just the same old bullshit button.

>>29504342
>>29477502
>>29504342
Sorry, Wrong guy, and it was already said.

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>>29500747
ptrfags get so btfo'd they assume eveyr anon not praising a ptr is me now

>>29503189
battle raifus only friendo get that intermediate cartridge shit talk out of here

>>29503639
half the cost of his rifle lol

>>29503964
high gloss high drag fampai

>>29504342
idk the ones i shot had it and i liked it so i want dat and need dat