What are your thoughts on Blackthorne products? Are they a scam?

Oh fuck I had no idea they existed

They're pretty sexy though

>>29460936
They also have Micro Galil parts kits

>>29460967
Fug DAT I want a galil 308

Isn't Blackthorne just a re-branded Hesse?

>>29461035
Hesse went to Vulcan. Had a Hesse. Receiver looked like pot metal. Wouldn't be surprised if they've changed names again though. That gun was a pos. Squeezed the trigger half the time with my eyes closed hoping it didn't blow up in my hands

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Man. I want one. And only 11 in stock. Lucky bastard. I've always wanted one. Looks like it even has the bottle opener on the bipod.

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bunping for further desires to know. $379.00 and a $20 shipping fee seems like a good deal for the parts kit but I'd like to know if its a great deal and the parts kit are of quality.

>>29460894
>check GB for shits and giggles
>see this http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=550568974

Fucking hell

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>>29461899
>.308 Galil
>Given a fucking commiefornian fudd stock w/thumbhole
>Zero decency to at least stain the wood
>On sale for approx. 2 grand
>In Progun Kentucky
>mfw

>>29461936
A) that's a postban, hence the thumbhole stock, no bayo lug and no threaded barrel/flash hider. It was imported after the 93 ban aka "post" ban. See "sporting purposes" test.
B) in sunny CA, a thumbhole stock is the same as a pistol grip for "assault weapon" purposes. So adding one would do nothing. I think you're confusing a bullet button with it.

Most postban lumber sucks. The stocks were added after the fact simply to get the guns in. They didn't give a fuck how it looked.

>>29462904
>Post ban
That has to be for Commiefornia then, because I've seen two other spoterized .223 Galils and they had their pistol grips instead of that abomination.

>>29463782
And mainly before they ruled out the thumbhole stocks into the ban. Previous ARs had the thumbhole stocks

>>29461853
parts kits that require an expensive milled receiver are usually cheaper

>>29461139
>>29461035
Yes, Hesse/Vulcan/Blackthorne are all the same entity.

Here's an example of their fine handiwork
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1491243_PSA___At_Range_today_LOUD_BOOM___Vulcan_50_cal_EXPLODED___Bolt_lodged_in_guys_neck__PICS.html

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>>29463814
Mmm yes but are the galil good?

I want to fuck fucky sucky sucky $20 you get everything

>>29463801
So I should get a milled reciever and then buy the spare parts separatedly? Or should I get a milled reciever and a parts kit without the reciever?

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>>29463847
Ayy, looks like somebody did some great coloring in the doujin page. Care to link me the uncensored one?

>>29463847
Do not trust anything assembled or manufactured by them. Have any parts kits purchased through them inspected thoroughly by a competent gunsmith before use. Do not give them your money in the first damn place because they are scum

>>29463870
It's in here somewhere
https://imgur.com/a/aJkSn

>>29463980
Well that sucks.
Nobody fucking makes galils.

>>29464139
There's this one company in Ohio that makes recievers and parts. Forgot what it was called, its a little pricey but its worth it.

>>29460894
Yes

>>29464139
Thanks m8

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>>29464210
That doesn't help much anon

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>>29464494
Ohio Rapid fire

ohiofag here, ur welcome.

>>29460894
Hesse/Vulcan/Blackthorne are all the same group, and they will fuck you up. Don't be an hero OP.

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>>29460894
You fucks are so retarded.

LOOK AT THE KIT.

>No stock
>Shit aftermarket non-galil dust cover
>Shit US barrel thats 9/10 times 1-12 and precut
>Repro gas block that is notorious for being out of spec
>handguard retainer is for a .308 Galil and not a .223

I shouldn't even have to tell you this since Blackthorne = Hesse = Vulcan.

If you want a Galil ARM, get a preban.

>>29464523
How is the Israeli Galil different from the Finnish RK rifles anyway?

>>29464523
>>29464210
It seems many would disagree with you.

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124623

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>>29463782
Seriously? It's the "Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act," more commonly known as the 1994 assault weapons ban or Clinton's ban.

It already sunsetted, so I won't go into the rules. The point is: it's not California and it never was. A bunghole stock is the same as a pistol grip according to the CA test.

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Ok, to build waifu you'll need
>a parts kit from apex
>extra gas block roll pins(2 short one long) for the gas block and bayonet lug
>new trigger group, and handguard for 922r
>receiver (got mine on CNCWarrior, very well made
>a barrel (I managed to find an original IMI barrel)
>shims for the barrel(amazon .1mm, 28 outer diameter, 20 inner) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006U1V10G/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_mj3.wbJ5EEE1X
>a shop press with some steel bars to press gas block on
>a trigger guard rivet jig, and some drill bits of various sizes. 3mm for gas block and bayonet lug, whatever size the selector hole is for the thumb side, and a #50 and #25 drill for the gas port and its step respectively.
>time, patience, elbow grease, and various tools.

>>29461261
You stupid fuck the bottle opener is not on the bipod. Pleb

>>29464210
Hahahahaa those are the cheap ones and they're known nau guaranteed to have problems and need hand fitting if their heat treating is even good. Many builders wont work on those receivers or will charge you more be ause they suck.

>>29464562
These hopeless fuckboys won't listen. Your information is lost and meaningless to them.

Yes OP buy that expensive incomplete mixmaster ak parts having shitty rusty reported to commonly be missing pieces and a problematic barrel kit and then find someone who will work on yoir shitty receiver because I know you'll jew out amd go for an aow rec. Then let us know how much you got for your pile of shit once you finally sold it and just bought a Golani which is "just as good"

This >>29464852
Or
This https://www.iwi.us/Galil/ACE-Rifle-GAR1639.aspx

Sorry mang

>>29464562
>>29464943
Your lack of reading comprehension is surprising. OP simply wanted to know your thoughts as he lacks the knowledge of the company products.

>>29464523
Fuck your name in particular.
The faultiest of receivers, threads abound regarding their shittiness. A second version was made which didn't solve much. When the owner of ORF died the best known galil builders passed on buying his leftover lot of receivers. By the way ORF doesnt exist since anymore, way to be behind on the times and not know how to use google.
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80039

>>29464951
But the galil ace is fucking gay

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>>29463782
not cali but clinton era ban, while you may be too young to remember it after the 94 ban they started importing them like this so that they could still get them into the country h&k did it too

>>29464852
>Caring about 922r
Please cite one indictment for 922r.

>>29467068
Ah, thanks

>>29464852
Which kit did you get?

>>29467376
The "good" kit, used a drill with a brass wire wheel to take off the surface rust I also forgot to mention to get headspace gauges

>>29464852
>>29467594
>Shims
>s
How many shims do I need?

>>29469116
I ended up using one on the current barrel, with the first one I fucked up on it took 2. >shim it with one
>get the barrel tight with a wrench or similar
>headspace should be a little loose but not enough for no go
>then tighten all the way super tight
>check headspace again
>mark on receiver and barrel to time right
>hand fit gas block so its square with the receiver
>tap it with a hammer to get it stared and tight
>remove barrel
>press on components
>drill step using gas block as a guide, should be 24 degrees but not through. Just a small amount to take off some from the surface
> press of gas block just enough to see the drilled step
>drill gas port using smaller drill bit
Press on gas block
>mount barrel to receiver, time it to where you had your markings, this should be really tight and the final install
>check headspace

>>29467594
And what is the "good" kit?

>>29470689
Light surface rust and some grease. everything needs to be taken off like the front and rear sight assembly and all that, then cleaned of grease and a touch from the brass wire wheel.

>>29470928
Anon, is there a good kit NAME?

The dealer you listed has multiple kits.

>>29470969
http://www.apexgunparts.com/imi-galil-parts-kit-w-new-us-made-barrel-5-56mm-good.html the barrel it comes with is garbage, extractor cut is already made and won't time right with the headspace. Buy a virgin IMI one

>>29471204
What, the 4000 pre bans?
What do you think I'm made of?

>>29472840
I got mine for $60

>>29473008
Are you being sarcastic or are you fo reals? Autism is really getting to my head these days

>>29473320
Fo reelz nigga

>>29473470
So... You got a prebanned reciever for $60 bucks?

>>29473703
Oh no. I thought you were talking about the barrel, I got the receiver for $500 on CNC warrior

>>29473736
Oh noice. $500'snpretty good

>>29460894
>I'm looking for a Galil parts kit,
then dont buy blackthorne. They are missing half the parts, and the other half are aftermarket.

your best bet was numrich when they got in the SAR kits. you missed the NOS israeli surplus barrels on APEX for $110. Basically youre 6 months too late for the parts, and a long journey from getting a reliably useable milled lower.

Best bet? Just buy a quality AR, or a Polish Beryl or SLR104 if you reallllly want a AK 556

>>29473994
I'll consider the Beryl.