>2 ak's >~1100 rounds fired with only 1 malfunction

>>29409175
mud

>>29409175
Do we need to post the dust video where the AK fails after 1 round :^)

>>29409175
>Why do you not favor the AK?
Didn't they not manage to kill anyone?

To this day I am shocked they didn't kill anyone
Didn't they only hit one? Bizarre.

>>29409175
>why dont you want a rifle caliber over a pistol cal?
b-but i do.

>>29409210
It was all AP ammo, over penetrating but they shot up over 20 people

>>29409212
None died

gunstores that the police took rifles from, got in legal trouble afterwards. Because they didn't properly transfer the guns the police stole from them.

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Never gets old.

>46 minutes of shooting
>robbers fired 1300 rounds
>in total both were shot hundreds of times
>m16 and ar15 bounced off steel plates

>>29409237
>>46 minutes of shooting
>>robbers fired 1300 rounds
They also didn't hit shit
They were heavily armed but they sucked

>>29409258
>jesus zergface fuck!

If he had used the stock and the sights. they might have actually done some damage.

that is some arab tier shooting.

>>29409259
>>29409287
To be honeart when you have an entire companys worth of policeshooting at you, you don't slow dowm and take pop shots at people. They suppressed the police as best as they could, withstanding all odds until the end

>>29409212
They hit wuite a few, and timely medical assistance is the reason nobody died.

On pair of cops got shot to shit and crawled... into a dentists office, where they got stitched up immediately. Pure luck.

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Don't forget about the AR they used too
>the LAPD museum is fun

>>29409287

guy had like 2 inches worth of armor under that jacket

shouldering and aiming correctly probably wouldn't have worked very well

plus you have a full auto AK with drum mags, why the fuck would you aim?

>tfw no /k/omrade to rob banks with

>>29409227
>gunstores that the police took rifles from, got in legal trouble afterwards. Because they didn't properly transfer the guns the police stole from them.
>"take this it's not safe to go alone"
>"you're under arrest"
>protect and serve :^)

>>29409319
Pretty sure that's what led to the death of the first guy after he stopped using his ak, he had an HK91 but it jammed, his thumb got shot off, and then he called it quits with a baretta 92

>>29409325
even a private fresh from us army basic, knows that the giggle switch on his weapon is useless or makes things worse 90% of the time.

>>29409359

they were there to rob a bank and get away not kill all the cops in the state

>>29409296
Accurate fire is the only way to keep the police at bay. They didn't even succeed in suppressive fire as evidenced by how many times they each were shot

Face it: they were amateurs and weren't ready for a full scale firefight. They had the firepower, but they weren't able to employ it to full effect

>>29409325
>making excuses for the failures of others

Face the facts: the shootout was a failure.
Zero police KIA
100% robber casualties
They couldn't even get out of the neighborhood of the bank

>>29409359
Full auto makes literally everything better you disgusting pleb

It was a goo try, too bad it just caused a militarized police force.

8/10, respect.

>>29409369
>they were there to rob a bank and get away
>they were there to get away
>failed to get away
What is your point?

>>29409347
Yeah, he actually stopped using the HK91 once the cops shot the receiver and magazine of the gun.

>>29409369
But they killed a guy before in one of their previous successful heists.

Why couldn't the LAPD just fly in a couple officers with bolt action rifles?

Were they really that bad at SWAT back then?

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Would they have changed the outcome of the situation if they had used improvised explosive weapons like pipe bombs, ect?

Remember, they got caught on the way inside the bank by some cops who just happened to be cruising by and saw them go inside.

>>29409440
It was in LA, the swat team got held up because of traffic conditions and the chopper was being used to take someone to the hospital IIRC.

>>29409449
It was supposed to be an 8 minute job, the only bombs they had were I'm the car to set it on fire to burn evidence

These dudes stole 1.3mil the year before

Wtf man

>>29409212

They just wanted money, probably didn't want to kill anyone.

>>29409521
They sure as fuck tried.

>>29409503
What I mean is, they had this long ass shoot out trying to escape, would homemade hand grenades have made a difference for them, IE, throwing them at police behind cover while running for it?

Would it have changed their kill count at all? I'm talking offensively, not blowing up the car for evidence.

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>>29409440
They were alright

>>29409542
Their arms and shoulders were shot to bits I doubt they had much throwing capacity left

>>29409401

they tried to steal a truck and get away?

the point is if they wanted to actually waste cops they wouldn't have just shot in their general direction wildly

they would have stayed indoors for one

you're trying to call two people who armed and prepared for this shit a couple of idiots because they fired over 1000 rounds and nobody died, as if they were simply too stupid to aim

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>>29409175

>full body armor
>against cops with only 9mm and a couple shotguns
>1100 rounds fired
>no kills
>AR comes into play
>immediately gets rekt
>trying to justify your choice in rifle this way

FUCKING

KEK

>>29409567
"Shot to bits"
99% of the rounds that contacted the assailants hit in the torso, they just had body armor on, and we're on drugs.

If they could hold up AKs with 75 round drums they could throw pipe bombs, especially since they were using a cars trunk for weapon cache.

>>29409604
Pretty sure one of them just shot himself. The other guy got fucked by AR's when he was trying to hop into another car.

So nowadays, for big city police departments, do all patrol cars get issued a rifle in the trunk or is it just some?

>>29409570
They were clearly too stupid to aim.

>>29409655
yeah, one shot himself before they brought in the ARs

>>29409570
They had superior firepower and body armor
They chose not to aim
They were literally too stupid to aim

I didn't realize this was a North Hollywood Shooters Internet Defense Force thread

>>29409720
Some say he was trying to clear an FTE, but due to his bulky armor and have being shot a few dozen times, he could not do it normally, so he pointed it up while clearing it and NDed into his skull.

>>29409735
He deliberately shot himself with his 9mm
The shooter abandoned the jammed AK because he was inexperienced and could not resolve the stovepipe jam

At this point it has become obvious that you have no clue what you are talking about.

>>29409336

source needed

>>29409735
...how in the fuck would you ND trying to clear a jammed 92fs anyway?

>>29409768
Nope, on the NGC "final report" of the matter two investigators who were invovled in the shootout and the case went back and forth as to if it was an intentional suicide or not.

They slow mo'ed the helicam of the death and everything.

>keep being an asshat though, gets my dickhard.

>>29409330
Im with a buddy

>>29409806
Hold gun verticle and rack slide. Make sure to misplace head in the way

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>>29409724
>North Hollywood Shooters Internet Defense Force

why even discuss an event if you're just going to ignore everything and spew nonsense?

>of course they didn't aim! that means they must be retards! it's not that they made a choice to not actually try to kill everybody that moved and were trying to escape, they were just retards! they should have wasted their time adding dozens of counts of murder to their charges!

but yes we're defending them because we're reminding people that maybe folks who premeditate a crime probably have other reasons for doing things a certain way

jesus christ

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>>29409236
saved

>>29409823
This has to be bait
I can't believe how far night /k/ has fallen

>>29409823
Accurate fire would have pinned down the police and facilitated a more smooth exfil
By actually hitting any cops at all, they would have pulled even more out of the fight by forcing them to tend to the wounded.
Charges be damned, the both died at the scene

Regardless of their reasoning, they had all of the equipment they needed, and they failed.

>>29409909

yes how dare anyone challenge the notion that the north hollywood shooters were simply sub-70 IQ retards who didn't know how to shoot their own guns

everyone lived because they were just too stupid

it's such a clear, reasonable conclusion

>>29409936
>By actually hitting any cops at all, they would have pulled even more out of the fight by forcing them to tend to the wounded.

they did this, but they were just too stupid to get anything else done

don't you know anything? the shooters were just retards.

>>29409957
>>29409941
They could not figure out a stovepipe.

They were retarded.

>>29410021
#2 decided to WALK NEXT TO THE CAR instead of getting in.

After they'd entered a street with no cops on it, with fucking normal traffic to blend into, and a clear escape possible.


Retarded indeed.

>>29410021
>They could not figure out a stovepipe.

try it while being shot at in the open and see how well you handle it

>>29409941
>>29409957
Passive aggression isn't a useful argument tactic on an anonymous forum m8, nobody gives a fuck.

Everyone here has pointed out the glaring mistakes that were made. I can't even figure out what point you are attempting to make at this moment.

>>29410108
Guy in question had 3a armor from shin to neck and was on drugs.

>>29409474
>SWAT got held up in traffic

That is the most southern california thing i've ever heard of

>>29409347
See, what I'd heard is that he tried to wrack the slide in some fucked up way cause of his thumb and he accidentally killed himself.

>>29409655
Depends on the state/city. For most cities the standard is still a 12ga in the trunk (though some cities such as DC don't even have that). Usually the officers have to take a class and qualify with an AR before they are issued one.

This usually means only a handful of officers on any given shift (if that) are rocking ARs/M16s/M4s in their cruisers.

>>29409175
>one 7.62 would have broken legs, arms, etc.
And yet their 1100 rounds of 7.62 killed how many cops?

Gunfights are decided my tactics not equipment anyway.

>>29409319
>that Harington jacket
Casual and classy as fuck

>>29410139
It wasn't just 3a, they nigger-rigged several layers of vests and plates onto themselves.

>>29409175
>only 1 malfunction
You sure about that?

>>29410183
going to agree
OH FUCK WE GOT THE CALL
WHERE IS IT
>SANTA MONICA
>SWAT TEAM IS DOWNTOWN
>IT'S RUSH HOUR
FUCK

>>29410082
If I remember correctly he was using the car as cover? Not that I think that's a great idea or anything but it isn't as simple as him just strolling down the street.

>>29410139
You try and figure out a stovepipe while on drugs sweating your balls off in ridiculous armour in California whilst being shot at.

>>29410467
Well, realistically it's kinda both. I would say tactics are more important but firepower and equipment widen your availability of tactics considerably (not saying buger is better or whatever BTW)

>>29409227
Man thats amazing. Do you have more info on it? I love this kinda stuff

>>29409325
>confirmed skinny

>>29409330
iktf fbi

>>29409544
oh baby
given its provenance, imagine what that would fetch on the Free Market

>>29409210
It was all about suppressing to get away. Just like in the real movie.