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In with new optic since I don't own a bipod.

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>>29374569
Woah it came!

Looks good. I need to order another PA MD ADS.

Check out the Tango Down cover.

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>>29374543
In with future bolter

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>>29374543
My bipod doesn't sit flush with my muzzle

>>29374569
w-where is your forward assist

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>>29374543
Am bipod now

>>29374586
I'm planning to get one next time I order something, I just need to figure out if I wand OD or black.

Last night before the rds came in I was wondering what all the hubub was about the TD cover, and now after using the bikini cover a little I understand.
Fuck the bikini cover.
>>29374612
soon.jpg
I just haven't gotten around to it yet.
That, TD cover, BCG/CH is all that's left for me to call this done.
>>29374625
10/10

>>29374595
I extended the legs a little for it to do that. I doubt yours can because of how stubby they are even when they're extended.

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>>29374546
on an ak it's a booster but they advertise that it reduces back pressure. I'm pretty sure it would increase it. it's the same design as the one in pic
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C6ON82U/ref=s9_simh_gw_g200_i1_r?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=154Y7RK6A508WAAJNSGZ&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2437869742&pf_rd_i=desktop

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>>29374639
And I have a 20" rifle

Oh, I got a holster for the S&W now

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>>29374630
When I was comparing the Sparc II and the PA MD ADS they were basically tied, except once you take into consideration the TD cover the MD ADS clearly is the better option right around $200.

Go OD is my call!

Your pistol makes me want to paint mine.

>>29374654
>Oh, I got a holster for the S&W now
Nice! Where for fuck did you find a holster for it?

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>>29374630
Needs the Fatman still my friend. You need that girthy muzzle device to emphasize the c-cut in the rail.

>>29374651
Thanks dude! I'm running the KAK Flash Can right now and it doesn't actually have a baffle like the KX3. How do you like it?

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>>29374543
In for my balance > your balance

Also messy workshops.

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>>29374679
My oven?

>>29374693
can't say. haven't used it yet

>>29374678
Do it, it's fun.
Just make sure you're patient with it and avoid frogtape.
I used frogtape for my black layer masking and rushed my light green layer and those are the two main flawed areas of my paintjob.
Fatman is still in the cards, It's just lowest priority behind bcg/ch/fa/sling/light since it'll make it insane to shoot and is $115.

>>29374703
>My oven?
Oh shit, you've made a holster already? Cool! How much would you charge to make one for my 82?

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Am ATPIAL-C now

>>29374734
The cost of materials.

>So $6

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>>29374746

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>>29374049
I will absolutely consider that bro thank you

>>29374290
so sayeth the father, the son, and the holy glockamole

Glad it's holding up so far

>>29374818
More like derpy as fuck eyes

>>29374856
>cookie cutter comp
I never understood this thing, especially since I never see anyone butt it up against the rail.

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>>29374813
Cool, I'll bring it over sometime.

>>29374872
I want one on a full auto SBR so I can clear out ranges in a mag or less.

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>>29374874
They're really basic designs. I don't have the materials to do fancy shit.

Might make one of these though.

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>>29374939
If you could do an IWB one that'd be cool, but I don't mind an OWB. Doesn't have to be fancy, I'll pay you $10 for it though.

I'm having trouble deciding on whether to build my lower, then buy a complete upper, or completely build my gun from the ground up. Anybody got any advice?

>>29374990
Build it from the ground up.

I even went so far as to turn my own barrels from blanks, but then again I had access to a lathe and experience using one. I know that's simply not possible for most people.

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>>29374990
If you wan't a general AR-15 with some mods. Then build your lower and pick a generic upper.

If you want an AR that is custom to your looks and need. Start from complete scratch. Also, and AR is NEVER done.

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Doing those transparent rifle I promised before bed
here's one >>29374049
>>29374049


>>29374663
Not that I remember, but if I open my mouth too far it kinda locks open, and if you apply downward pressure it locks even harder.
Fun times. Might be TMJ.

>>29374872
Apparently they work well. Too bad they're so fucking ugly even when they're not lime green.

>>29375009
>>29375019
So even if all I'm looking for is a flat top, free float, and a good barrel, ground up is still probably the best option huh.

>>29375052
Oh and a full quad rail, forgot to add that.

>>29375052
Generally yes.

You tend to either get a meh barrel and shit handguard for reasonable money, or extremely overpriced good barrel and extremely overpriced good handguard. Either way they will be absolutely plastered with the manufacturer's logo.

>>29375057
>quad rail
WHYYYYY

>>29375022

Neat, thx bby

>>29374543
Are FN Scar 5.56 mags any good?

>>29375097
>FN
>not good
That rarely occurs.

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And anon's

>>29375070
I just happen to like the railed look, that and I don't care about the weight.

>>29375107
>PS90
>Five-seveN
>FS2000/F2000
>integrated optics
The SCAR is the first good product they've made since the FAL. They have a lot of decent guns but very few things that stand out. And they've produced a lot of bullshit.

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GI mags best mags

>>29374569

what forearm? I'm looking for one and that looks pretty good.

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>>29374976
This is how it looks on the hip

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>I apologize, my warehouse told me that it was available a couple of weeks earlier, but I do not believe we have this in stock.
rip my ammo. what is some good match shit i can buy

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Implications of free float rail not covering low profile has block?

My rail is 9" and comes even to the back of the had block, tube is covered.

It's not what was intended or what I'm used to seeing. Kind of okay looking though, any reason it matters?

>>29375177
>Implications of free float rail not covering low profile has block?
If you hit the gas block super hard you might dislodge it. You probably won't though.

>>29375155
Matrix Arms Cherlie rail, 13".
It's 12.5 to the deepest section of the "C" cut, and 13.5" from the rear of the rail to the front.
The only real issue I have with it is there's no indexing tabs.
>>29375177
That's fine.
As long as the gas tube is covered it doesn't matter much.

>>29375192
>>29375196
Thanks

>>29375171
IMI razorcore 77gr.

Trajtech reman mk262
>https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/trajetech-223-rem-sierra-matchking-hollow-point-boat-tail-77-grain-2750-fps-20-round-box-n223s77-736211348982.do

Black Hills reman mk262 (y'know, the guys who invented mk262 and who produce it for the military)

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>>29374856
yikes

>>29375205
ill check those out thanks m8

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100 yard sighting in with my new tool
great spot inna logging roads

Its a wonderful feeling when all your parts come in at the same time and you're ready to go the next day.

>>29375233
Luckygunner has the Black Hills for 66cpr currently.

Ordering a couple hundred myself.
http://www.luckygunner.com/223-rem-77-grain-sierra-matchking-hp-black-hills-remanufactured-50-rounds-1

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>>29375163
It's so big o.O
>that's what she said.
Anyways, idc how it turns out I'll take it.

>>29375177
A lot of forends don't cover the gas block so they'll work with M4 front sights.
In other words, you're fine.

>>29375242
is it legal to shoot off/on roads where you are? i would have some sweet spots if i could here

>>29375252
neat. any real difference with reman?

>>29375253
It's for a fucking K frame, of course it's big.

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New build coming together

Just waiting for cryptic coatings or lantec to fucking restock bcg's and it'll be all done

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R8 me fags

>>29375269
99% LC headstamp with the occasional WCC or FCC. It's still very very consistent, they use exclusively .mil brass so LC, WCC, and FCC all have the same case capacity. Also, I'm not 100% positive they crimp primer pockets on the reman (which is a good thing in my book).

Several years ago a local store had some of their 68gr Heavy Match reman (non-SMK 69gr SMK facsimile bullet, not sure whose, maybe their own?) for dirt cheap, and my 1:8 precision upper would shoot it repeatably into 3/4 MOA off bags and bench. I've shot their 69gr TMK reman loads side-by-side with their factory-new 69gr TMK and other than checking headstamps in the brass pile I couldn't tell a difference. If there's any variance it's at a level I can't shoot well enough to tell.
>there is a REASON NSWC-Crane contracts through them

>>29375289
Looks gud. Whose handguard?

>>29375301
Basic bitch, but tasteful basic bitch. 7/10.

>>29375196
Different anon.

Just ordered a 15" Matrix Charlie. For $70 shipped it's worth a try.

>>29375269
perfectly legal, within the boundaries of safety of course

At that spot, you can see where the road curves around the hill to the right so I can see people coming pretty far away and out of my line of fire.

Another question, can someone recommend me a 16" barrel for less than $200 which isn't doggie doo? I'm not sure I'd be comfortable buying a $100 PSA barrel for whatever reason.

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>>29375322
From where?

>>29375322
You might want to put a little lube on the outside of the barrel nut to help get it on, mine is a tight fit.
Feels great in the hand though.

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>>29375334
Also if you haven't seen it, this is the barrel nut

>>29375306
sweet. thanks for the info anon

>>29375329
damn you are luck. i could easily have a 600 yard range but we cant shoot on or over a road

>>29375312
Thanks. Looking to get a muzzle brake for the top one, Amazon has an M4-72 clone for $49 shipped. Anybody got a better recommendation? I really like the way the ALG single chamber brake looks too.

>>29375306
outdoor outfitters has pretty good prices on 60gr sp and 75gr heavy match hollow point

>>29375330
Any of the melonited or chrome lined PSA barrels. They're fine, even if they're not as good as their FN-made CHF barrels.

>>29375333
chandlerhardwoods.com. $59.00 plus shipping.

>>29375334
Thanks for the heads up, and yeah I saw that barrel nut. Not thrilled about the design but meh.

>>29375355
J-Comp off Amazon would be my only other recommendation at that price point.

>>29375382
I also looked at the J-comp. Anyone know how the muzzle flash is with that?

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>>29375355
I've got an ALG SCB that I replaced a 3 pring with.
It's good, beautiful finish on it.
I haven't been able to shoot it rapid fire yet, but initial impressions at the indoor range are good.
>pic related
Rifle had the 3 prong, and it got replaced with the SCB.
TFB's brake test put the M4-72 as better than the SCB when it came to recoil reduction though.
>>29375382
It seems solid enough, my biggest beef with the rail is the lack of indexing tabs.
I might try to figure out if I can rig a KMR tab thingy into it somehow at some point.

>>29375400
Thank you. I read through that giant muzzle brake test but I don't remember seeing the SCB on it. Might go for the M4-72 clone still. Just think the SCB would be most aesthetic on my rifle

>>29375366
I roll my own softpoints (64gr Nosler Bonded), and won't shoot non-Sierra match bullets any more. Too much variance with the Hornadys, and the Barnes Match Burners aren't quite there. But thanks.

>>29375399
Not bad to the shooter. Worse than the PWS hybrid, but does better on recoil.

>>29375406
SCB is loud AF.

>>29375382
>>29375330
Thanks for the quick answer, guess I'll give the melonited one I was looking at a try.

>>29375414
nice, i need to get into reloading

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>>29375414
What do you think the most aesthetic brake would be for this?

>>29375430
If you shoot a lot you will drive yourself crazy trying to reload on anything other than a progressive, and a good progressive setup is fucking expensive.

It is ultimately worth it though, especially if you shoot distance for groups or shoot magnum rifle/pistol rounds.

>>29375436
Silencerco ASR brake to pair with your Omega.

Barring that, I really like the looks of the Surefire SOCOM brake. However, if you don't want a 7-foot-long MD it's not for you. Seriously, thing's long AF.

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>>29375458
>setup is fucking expensive.
thats whats stopping me from gettin into it

>>29375463
I can reload .45 colt for $8 a box and roll my own black powder cartridges for my 1858 conversion, that alone made it worth it to me.

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>>29375436
If you've got at least 1.3" ID on that rail a phase5 Farman would fit.

>>29375490
yeah ill probably wait til i get more diverse calibers

>>29375521
The more calibers you load for the cheaper it becomes per caliber. Die sets start at $30 and those and a shell plate are all you need to change calibers once you're set up for one caliber.

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>>29375540
neato, ill have to read more on it. thanks senpai

>>29375301
Is that a 24" barrel? Or am I drunk?

>>29375560
top rifle is 16"
Bottom rifle is 20"

it's an M16A2 clone. Rapidly becoming my favorite rifle.

After playing rainbow 6 siege I realize I no longer need /arg/

>>29375640
Good go away

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Any of you guys have experience with brown bear/silver bear ammo? It's dirt cheap and online reviews just say it's a little dirtier than most. Don't want to fuck up my funs though.

>>29375700
Brown bear is fine. Best of the steel case.

I dont like the idea of zinc plated cases so never tried silver bear.

>>29375577
>the bottom rifle is a 20".
Seems weird.

>>29375709
Thanks m8

>>29375720
You're weird. Rifle is fine

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>>29375720
You're just short

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>>29375730
I am weird.
>>29375740
I'll have you know I'm slightly below average height.

>>29375312
SLR Helix 15"

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Dat gas

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whoever that anon was that said he had the EMR V3 on his rifles i thank you for the recommendation i love my new rail.

still waiting on new scope,QD attachments and QD sling

someone recommend a decently priced bipod that will fit my MLok rail

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>>29374746
Nice.

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Not having money for toys is hard. I really want to redo my other AR.

>was warned for falsely reporting GC posts
>implying false report

>>29374746

Noice.

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>>29374543
in

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black background looks cool

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>>29376813
There is nothing but oblivion

>>29375289
Check every day. Twice maybe. Cryptic restocks every week or two and they well fast. When I was checking a lot it wasn't a problem

>>29376813
are you trying to camouflage your rifle like the bottom of a well used wet dumpster?

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pewpew
>>29377310
#rekt

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>>29377340

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>>29377340
>>29377347
Damn I love that paint job.

American Defense still out of stock on the Strike Eagle combo..........I'm really having to fight the urge not to just get a Strikefire 3x.

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Rate my lightweight build

>>29377389
hand burns / 10

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>>29377389
What happens if you let the bolt slam home without holding the barrel?
Does it fly off or does the bolt successfully lock into the extension?

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>>29377310
sure, want more pics?

#cruzesexscandal

>>29377416
the charging handle stops the bolt and gets pretty much instantly deformed by it. I posted a thread here a few days ago where I ruined my fucking charging handle by using it without a barrel. good thing it was a cheap one.

>>29377426
this reminds me of those car covers that looks like rusty cars to keep people from stealing your shit.

>>29374856
>using zombe-killur green
>on anything
my friend what are you doing

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>>29374856
Christ that's awful

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>>29377457
pretty much

>>29377560
I mean it does look like you fished it out of an Iraqi septic tank. But damn, it looks so fucking cool. That's a well used rifle right there. How many times have you painted it?

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It seems like Cryptic bolt carrier groups are pretty popular in /arg/. It would be cool to run a census and see how many people actually own them. Reply to this post is you have one!

Has anyone ever had a problem with theirs besides the price?

Pros for me:
-Stupid easy to clean, will prob saving me hours of cleaning over the life of the bolt
-Super smooth action, with the bolt greased up it is noticeably slicker than the stock phosphate finish

Cons:
-The inside of the bolt chamber and gas key are lined with chrome not their coating. They say this is because chrome is easier to get constant amount of layering there.

They are definitely not necessary but if you are trying to go full Gucci then it is something you should consider.

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Is it me or does everyone over estimate accuracy, I read a post from a guy saying he was getting 1.25" groups at 300 yards with his ar but he wasn't anything special, a sub moa AR is normally race gun territory yet everyone is always shooting at 1-1.5 moa which implies rifles of at least .5 moa less. Are these clowns measuring moa as a radius instead of diameter? I haven't even finished my AR so im not comparing this to my own ability or inability to shoot

>>29377658
1.25" at 300? Yeah fucking right. I expect an AR to be an MOA rifle, no more no less. 1.25 at 300 is either, 1.25 at 100 but I'll say 300 to sound cool, or he is completely talking out his ass.

>>29377658

I feel like some people will get lucky with a group and shoot like .75 moa even though the last 15 3 shot groups were 2 moa and be like yeah its a sub 1 moa rifle

Any suggestions on a muzzle device for 300 blk pistol?

I'm looking at the Krinkov style brakes or KAK Flash Cans. . .

>>29374693
How's the hardened arms upper? Accuracy? Reliability? I'm looking at them as an option for a budget build.

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>>29377732
I like both of my Hardened Arms uppers. I've got a 16" and a 10.5". I've shot around 1k through the two of them combined with flawless function. I'm not sure about accuracy as I haven't done any bench shooting or group size calculations but there was no problem zeroing at 50 yds.

There is an Anon on here with a 16" upper from them and he likes his. The barrels are not chrome lined however.

Good budget build option. Keep in mind they are 3-4 weeks out right now.

>>29377639
what does it mean to go full gucci? i mean it's not just for looks is it? the coating is supposed to make it have less abrasion with the chamber during feeding.

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>>29377638
like, 20 times.

>>29377658
nah, people lie out their ass or just say that their best 3rd group is what the rifle does all the time.

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Who makes the strongest bolt without having to use a special barrel extension?

guys, my barrel comes in today, the upper and rail come in tomorrow. How do I time travel?

>>29377882
Try some PCP, works every time

>>29377786
The price/performance ratio doesnt really work.
Yeah its a bit better in ways than a NiB/ regular bcg, but youre paying almost 3x the price of the toolcraft BCG they use as a base for easier cleaning and good looks, mostly (which, realistically is probably the only plusses you'll actually notice vs a regular bcg)

>>29377882
Sleep until they show up.
You'll be traveling at 1s/s, but it'll feel almost instant.

I'm new to ARs and have been looking at a DPMS Panther Oracle for my first one. With tax it is around $600. I don't really know much but I've heard they have beefed up barrels for the price. Is it worth it? I'm not confident about building one unless I had one to start out with.

>>29377683
>1.25" at 300? Yeah fucking right
20" barrels can get sub 0.5 MOA

>>29377701

plz respond

>>29378053
barrel length has little to do with accuracy.

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>>29378057
Putting a KAK flashcan on my .358 Winchester FAL im building, but I have no confidence it will last long.

>>29378053
I know it can happen, but the post I was answering seemed like the rifle was nothing special.

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>>29377930
This. My rack became the "Horizontal Time Machine" whenever we went underway.

>>29378063
>velocity has nothing to do with accuracy

>>29375436
Battlecomp would look sex to me

>>29378097
At 300 yards, it doesnt really. Unless your shooting in a hurricane.

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>>29378097
He said little, and he's right.
As long as the bullet is stabilized, the length doesn't matter much

>>29378031
Nooooooooooooooooooooo
Look at Palmetto state armory complete uppers and lowers.
Also watch some YouTube videos on how to build an AR, it might give you some courage.
My first gun was my AR, and I built the whole thing.

>>29378104
well who cares about 1MOA at short range? if your bragging about sub 1MOA I assume your shooting long

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>>29378136
The previous posts referenced 300 yards.
You could have read, but you assumed.

>>29378159
read? if I wanted to read I wouldn't be here

>>29378135
Thanks. Is it comparable price wise to build?

>>29378186
Yes? I don't know really, I built mine from PSA. Some will knock PSA as poorfag build parts but honestly it's all just milspec, except the barrels may or may not be depending on what you select.

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>>29378077
>>29377701
I put a KAK Flash Can on my 10.5" 5.56 build. If I had the foresight I would have instead tried this out:

http://www.amazon.com/Krinkov-Muzzle-Device-Pressure-Reducer/dp/B00C6ON82U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1458923075&sr=8-1&keywords=ar-15+krink

The KAK Flash Can doesn't actually have a baffle, and is made from aluminum. What is linked legitimately has a baffle, just like the Noveske KX3, and it also is made of steel. If you don't mind adding 12oz (almost a pound) to the front of your rifle, it might be a better option.

Good luck!

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Hey /arg/, I wanted to run the feasability of a stupid project by you.
So early in Vietnam, the first M16s had the wrong twist rate for the current shitty ball ammo resulting in extreme key-holing at closer ranges. Would there be a way to replicate this effect with a modern AR and ammo? Is there a certain ammo and twist rate combo that would achieve this effect? Thanks

>>29378312
Isn't that technically a suppressor as it has a baffle?

>>29378312
I put the flashcan on my FAL barrel because I wanted a long as fuck 9mm brake so I could go with a short action FAL, and not have a ton of extra barrel. Since the picatinny lowers sold out for now, I might just go ahead and SBR the upper, get the barrel cut a couple inches shorter and toss a 9mm lantac dragon on it. Who knows when the lowers I want are going to get back in stock, and if im going to wait, I mind as well wait for a stamp too.

Im well aware that the flashcan isnt really much of anything.

>>29378368
depends if it makes the sound quieter or not. i think if it just redirects it forward but doesn't make it quieter its fine.

>>29378322

1/12 twist rate with anything heavier than 55gr.

>>29378097
It has NOTHING to do with mechanical accuracy.

Whether or not the fucker behind the rifle thinks it does or not may/may not make him shoot somewhat better though.

Also long barrels are worse for mechanical accuracy, all else being equal, due to extra barrel whip.

A long barrel does 3 things:
>balance
>extends the supersonic flight range
>look cool

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>>29378501
A longer barrel is also less rigid

>>29378368
Kinda hard to call it a suppressor when it actually makes the gun louder

>>29377872
LMT Enhanced bolt

>>29378553
Thank you

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What's up with flow through suppressors? Anyone use one?

>>29378481
Will the higher I go in grain increase the keyholing effect?

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Has anyone seen a free floatish handguard build with a carry handle?
Just wondering

>>29378580
Not...really? I mean the longer bullets would increase the odds of one hitting sideways at any particular distance, but bullets are either stable and fly normally or unstable and tumble through the air. There's no "only a little unstable".

>>29378553
ur not ded

>>29378593
Yeah.

My service rifle was set up that way.
>M4
>JP Gen1 freefloat tube, carbine length
>A2 FSP and detachable carry handle because transitional to optics
No idea why they put the JP tubes on the rifles, but they were comfy.

>>29378566
>whats up with flow through suppressors?
Very little added backpressure at the cost of being bad at actually suppressing

Also they look heavy AF.

>>29378566
That is evidence of a very patient machinist.

>>29378624
pics please
Does it resemble pic related from my post you replied to just with the front sight gas block?

>>29378565
They aren't cheap, but they're thought pretty highly of. I think they might be a little heavier too iirc, which makes them a better option for suppressed ARs. Will be fine in an unsuppressed one too though. It's also got two springs behind the extractor. Now that I think about it, I think the extra weight might be in the LMT enhanced carrier and the bolt is normal.

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>>29378647
Don't have any pics, and not even fucking close.

The JP handguard was carbine length (7") on a 14.5" carbine-gassed rifle, and they're completely round with no rails.

The 7" version of this guy.

>>29378665
No they arent cheap, but the alternative is an SR-15.

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>>29378593
I put an airsoft carry handle on my rifle once

>>29378682
This is true.

>>29378614
yeppers

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>>29378674
I have a JP HG. It's not Gen 1, but I can attest to it's comfiness.

>>29378633
bad at suppressing? does anyone publish a chart of various suppressors and their db reduction?

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>>29377639
In

>>29378741
Silencer Shop has an extremely incomplete one.

Also the comparisons are...vague. There are so many factors that go into how quiet a can is that can't be easily repeated for a fair test that they're general ideas.

Also literally every suppressor maker either outright lies by a few dB or uses specialty ammo for their tests to produce true but non-repeatable low numbers.

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>>29378741
you wont find a 100% truthful chart or a chart that has a lot of different suppressors

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>>29378674
>gunstruction doesn't have JP handguards
It looked fairly close to this.

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>>29374746
" help me "

>>29378774
dope, thanks!

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>>29378312
>AFG
>no BUIS


Absolutely disgusting.

>>29378683
That makes me hard and confused at the same time
Does it work?

>>29378593
isn't that airsoft?

swear to god i saw those in a shotshow video once, it was distinct to me because the handgaurd/rail looked disgusting, melty and made of cheap plastic

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Next week is looking like it's going to be my week to shine.

>Wednesday is going to be 64 and mostly sunny with 5-10 mph winds

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>>29378881
>>29378593
maybe this helps, maybe it doesn't

>>29378942
>>>asp
mr airsoft

>>29378942
Thank you
Exactly what I needed

>>29378881
If it was a real carry handle, yeah of course.
But it was plastic airshit, so not technically.

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>>29378974
glad to hear - you're welcome

>>29378947
chinkshit but it's all metal, officer

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>>29378895
Diamondhead VRS-T

I asked this question here last time but I seem to not get any proper answer
I am nofunz, but want to buy an AR
Currently in my country, only these are legal to possess
>Colt AR-15 H-bar/Sporter
>Bushmaster mod. XM15
>Olympic Arms AR-15 H-bar,
>DPMS Panther Bull 24
>Oberland Arms (OA) 15
>Heckler & Koch MR 223(sort of an AR)
>JP Enterprise CTR-02
>Armalite M 15
>STAG 15
>Smith & Wesson M&P-15

Which one would you recommend me to buy when it comes to practical sport shooting? Preferably a flat top?

>>29379129
Are you allowed to build your own?

If not, the JP Enterprise is the best built of the lot while not being the most expensive.

>>29379136
*or modify an existing one.

So.
>cannot build or modify
JP
>cannot build but can modify
M&P with a new upper of your choice
>can build
build it to your specs

>>29379129
Oberland
hk MR223
JP

>>29379146
>recommending a piston gun
>from King of the Fuckups, HK, of all people
nyet

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>>29379129
Avoid anything bushmaster with a rented dick

I guess of those I would personally go with the Smith and Wesson. I have no experience with any of the other guns listed.

>>29379136
>>29379142
I am unsure if I can build, but I am quite certain I can modify
>>29379150
>>29379146
>>29379154
I want to be able to modify in the future. I kinda like Colt, but due to their unique gray color, it seems like putting on different uppers will just look plain ugly.

So S&W is best choice? I want to be able to modify the buttstock so it got the more traditional A2 one

What's wrong with Bushmaster?
What's wrong with piston mechanism?

>>29379236

Bushmaster has poor quality manufacturing and quality control. Not worth the investment, especially if it's difficult to own in your country.

Piston operated AR's offer no real advantages, and are certainly not worth the added cost.

Depending on which model M&P is available to you, that could be a good choice. The Oberland Arms is also likely good to go, and so is the JP. Stag and Armalite are so so on build quality.

>>29379236
I'd say if you're gonna modify it the S&W is probably the best base.

>what's wrong with Bushmaster?
Had some massive QC issues a good number of years ago, soured their reputation. They're a bargain bin rifle company. They make polymer lowers (which universally suck).
>what's wrong with a piston mechanism?
The AR15 was not designed with a piston and as such shoehorning one into an AR15 introduces a couple issues while not providing any benefits.
>b-but muh shits where it eats
Gas vents out the bolt carrier and not into the receiver. Chamber fouling, what actually jams the gun, is the same as it's completely unrelated to the gas system.
>b-but muh HK fixed their carrier tilt
No they didn't. They mitigated it to the point where you probably won't have to replace the buffer tube for a few years, but it will still eventually need to be replaced just from normal usage.

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>>29379236
>what's wrong with piston mechanism?
Pic related. Only 500 rounds and the buffer tube needs to be replaced.

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I've decided what I'm going to do with my other AR. It's going to be a lot cheaper than all the other options too. Now....to find money for it....

>>29379328
I've been reading the H&Ks are eating bolts every few thousand rounds though.

>>29379425
There's that too. I didn't bring it up because they're not the only ones having that problem though.

>>29379390
Whatcha doin?
Also i meant to reply saying I'll look into the wacky bats events in PA and let you know.
Just forgot to before bed.

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>>29379446

Neat stuff. Hope to see you there.

And I'm going to get a drop in free float that extends past the A2 front sight, and replace the upper for one with a dust cover and FA.

I am stuck with very limited options and must buy a completed rifle.

What is the general consensus on brands like Windham Weaponry and Del Ton?

Only worried about these two for now. Thanks for any info

>>29379482
Both of those suck

>>29379482

Windham is okay. Just avoid things with a railed gas block like the plague, because I think they used a lot of those.

Look into the Ruger AR556 and S&W MP15 Sport II.

>>29379488
>>29379489
thank you. Definitely avoiding a railed gb as they're both ugly and require me to spend more money on a front sight while the integrated M4 gas block sight works as good as any

If Windham is preferable between the two, is there even anything good to be said about them or are they just meh?

>>29379507

They are the epitome of mediocre. If they were priced $100 lower I would say they are a better buy than they are.

>>29379507
They're generally cheap?

>>29379518
>>29379523
okay yep

so even if it's slightly overpriced I should opt for a basic bitch Colt?

>>29379620
IMO the Ruger SR556 and the S&W M&P Sport II (definitely *not* the Sport I) are the best of the poorfag rifles.

They're normally about $400 less than a Colt 6920 and within a few bucks of a Windham.

>>29379620

Not necessarily. The SR556 and M&P Sport II are both excellent rifles for the price. I have a friend and he bought 2 SR556s. They function very well. I helped him zero them and for the price I don't think it's a bad purchase in the slightest.

>>29379661
Goddamn Cordan, are you me?

Rugermind.

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>>29379691

Could be. Did we go shooting last Friday?

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Oops

>>29379698
Yes, but that's normal for me.

Were you balls deep in a chubby redhead at 9am this morning?

>>29379712
Did you accidentally your credit card?

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>>29379738

No.

>>29378312
Would this be a good choice?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Slim-Line-Knurled-Flash-Can-/262282172540?hash=item3d113c587c:g:CxUAAOSwx-9WuPvO

>>29379712
You glorious paint slinging bastard. How did you get in my head so? Did you remember the pressure pad tail cap?

>>29379760
Probably. Only concern is mfg. quality.

>>29379748
Rip in debts

>>29379769
Idk mayne. Its your own head. I did and now im looking at mussle breaks....

Is a little bit of wobble normal for a T-1's brightness dial? I can move the dial a little bit back and forth/up and down.

Just wondering if that's something worth sending out to Aimpoint for.

>>29379794

Could call them and ask if that is within the norm.

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>>29379794
As a data point, my T1 has no wobble.

>>29379833
Nice jack

>>29379850

That's an engine hoist, not a jack.

Some advertiser, probably Troy, must have told AR15.com staff to ban anyone who posts 9/11 conspiracies. And the mods were making up weak excuses as they go in the "Banned.." thread

Got banned for that

>>29379850
Only the finest Freights of Harbor.

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>>29379833
>>29379850

>>29379871
No it's a jack

>>29379878
>>29379879
kek

>>29379874
Who the fuck uses arfcom

>>29379895

People who are progressing deeper into alcoholism every time Ted Cruz loses again

>>29379895
I do, the EE is awesome for selling stuff.

>>29379908
I get the ee but forum layouts like arfcom are straight retarded

>>29379926
Agreed. I love how unless you throw money at them you can only search back 30 days, only do a search ever 60 seconds, the search function is fickle as hell. The whole damn community is either full on Fudd or super elitist LEOs. The only good thing is the EE, everything about the Arfcom community is worse than the worst troll threads on /k/.

>>29379908
>try to use the EE
>its the same 50 people buying fucking everything up as quickly as possibly why everyone else gets lucky once in a blue moon to score a lightly used BCG, rail, or triggerpack

>>29379974
kek. I've been banned from /sp/ a few times for being "racist" shits stupid

>>29379974
WTF? Context?

>>29380043

I pretended to be Christian and posted all kinds of funny shit about dinosaurs and creationism and got them stirred up. Mods were looking for anything lol.

Some christian even had bought me a membership

>>29379661
>>29379653
thank you for getting back to me

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Figured I'd take a nice picture with my AR and my new cap. I like to keep things simple.

>>29380173
why in the world do you think we want to see your ugly mug? maybe if you were a cute girl but your far from that.

>>29380173
Pretty basic AR.

At least you're not an ugly, fat spic like DR8C0.

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>>29377389
Parts came in!

>>29380212
I..I can be a cute girl for you...anon-san...so long as you don't vote democrat

>>29380257
too much rail for a lightweight build/10

>>29380226
I like my AR's like I like my girls- basic and simple

>>29380275
I can respect that.

I'm working on a basic build right now myself.

>>29380261
It's over for us mang. Trump will win the Republican ticket but he doesn't have the support to win the presidency. Hillary will be elected.

Start revving up those boats and shovels.

>>29380292
Depends on who he picks for his VP.

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>>29380308
Our gun rights are fucked if anyone other than the Cruz Missle wins

>>29380278
unnaground or innawoods we go

>>29380285
next purchase is probably going to be a cheap handgun.

>>29380350
I'm thinking onnaisland. Unnaground can be found, innawoods too. But onnaisland, there are a lot of them out there, you could potentially go far enough out and just build and no one would know for years. Al ot of smaller coral islands are only visited by passersby, if you built on one and anyone asked just say you own it now. What are they gonna do? Check?

>>29380273
Not actually a lightweight build, it was a joke in the first post. There will be a bastardized handstop in front of the mvg which is the purpose of the long rail

>>29380370
What kind of island? How'd you be self sustaining? Cannibalizing any stranded survivors that happen to show up?

I mean whatever works though

>>29380411
Something small, way far out, prefereably with a cove for a small bluewater sailer. Big things are power, water and food.

Power can be solar or wind for lighting, cooking could be solar or go into port for propane.

Water is the tough one, the best is to just collect and store rainwater. Desalinating is very unsustainable.

Food is a bit easier, diet will have to be alter considerably. No more chicken tendies, well maybe every now and then. But most protein will come from local wildlife. A few fruits could be grown locally, most carbs would have to be imported in though. Luckily rice is cheap and bulk sale outlets can be found almost anywhere.

Provision runs can be done once or twice a year, I've got ways around getting just about any medication one would need. Of course you'll need family with you or just those that are like minded.

Being so far out and under the radar you could operate using flexible morals. Growing illicit substances for sale on the mainland, or the brewing a moonshine etc. Puka shell necklaces, etc.

Far fetched? Oh hell yeah. Doable? Absolutely. I'm considering a career change anyway, thinking of going EMT. I've contracted for years overseas doing force protection for Uncle Scumbag, came home and now I'm doing Aerospace, I think it's time I learned something actually useful to myself. If the conditions are right, I'd sell my house and vehicles and possessions for a chance at true freedom, or as close as I can get. Buy a bluewater boat, set up a nice little kitty and head out to see what happens. Worse thing that could happen is I get killed.

>>29380545
desu i'm gonna bunker down innawoods and go out and scavenge every so often

>>29375301

>A2

Yummy

>>29380610
I say good luck to you anon. If you make it to the coast and see a boat with "Roanapur or bust" on the side, you'll know I've finally went off the deep end.

>>29380257

Nice base rifle, good job. Now you just need a sling, optics, and some rail covers.

>>29380632
thanks senpai

if youre ever in northeast pennsylvania, go off in the woods and look for the trail of camp cocks, and you'll eventually find me

>>29379712
>Theyve already processed it and are ready to ship
Bless Primary Arms

Got my tax return in. I'm gonna get a trigger. Geiselle, right? Or should I be looking at anyone else?

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>>29380652
>camp cocks
>my innocent mind read camp rocks
>WTF I'm sure there's probably rocks all over Pennsyl...oooooooooooohhhhh.

What has this place done to me.

>>29380668

Just buy an SSA-E and be done with it.

>>29380694
Okie dokie artichokie

I ordered four C Products GI mags with the anti tilt follower for 10 bucks a piece. are these reliable magazines? it's the aluminum ones

>>29380764
bump for this. anyone have any luck with CPD GI mags?

>>29380764
>>29380793

I have a couple. They are fine as long as they have anti tilt followers.

>>29380805

Good to know. 10 bucks for a new, good working magazine is a good deal these days.

>>29380845

I always order a couple D&H mags from PSA when I order ammo from them.

>>29380845
I don't recall where, but you can get Brownell's mags for $8 a pop somewhere on sale right now.

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I have a shit ton of D&H mags because I do what Cordan does >>29380853. They're good mags for the price. I also managed to nab around 20 Brownell mags from my LGS for $5 a piece a few weeks ago. Those are also pretty nice.

Still prefer Lancers though. It just never hurts to have a lot of magazines.

>>29380912

I had a FTF first load up with my only Lancer mag. Haven't used it since. Fuck that magazine.

How do you like your battery ACOG?

>>29380925
I like it well enough. It's just like a TA31, but it uses a battery instead of fiber optic/tritium combo. It's almost like a TA31 and an Aimpoint M4 had a baby.

What I don't like about it is that it weighs something like 10oz more than a TA31. Wouldn't put it on a lightweight build.

>>29380946

Interesting. And the eye relief is very ACOG I assume? Because that's the biggest thing pushing me towards an ELCAN right now is they have another inch of eye relief.

>>29380965
Exactly the same eye relief and FOV.

>ELCAN
Oh, if you can afford it, I'd go Elcan for sure. I got the TA02 on sale for around $875, so for me it was a no-brainer.

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>>29380982

I see.

Looking around the ELCAN OS4x can be had for $1250, which isn't bad considering it has built in ARMS lever mounts, which they have upgraded to be better than past iterations. People have told me that because of how the mount fits the ELCAN that I wind up with the same eye relief, but after looking at it I have decided that I could just move my BUIS to in front of the optic and leave it folded down. Will be just fine I imagine.

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>>29377359
Amazon has a great deal in the strike eagle, mine came in last week

>>29375934
Uh huh welcome.

>>29379307
>>29379328
>>29379347
Allright, so I should just stay away from Bushmasters, and not bother about H&K builds.

What makes M&P and Oberland so good?
Or JP for that matter?

Sorry for late reply

>>29380173
go back to ukraine

>>29379328
>>29379425
Wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Hk 416/mr556 at 6k there's only mere finish wear on buffer tube.

And the bolt earing thats utter bullshit hk bolt laat 20k+ easy. Infact theres one guy who posted instagram pic of his that broke one lug above extractor at 25k and is still functional.

>listening to anon over reputable knowledgeable tripfag
>smart move

Pick one

Dont be stuipd my child.

>>29381225
HK is mile better than any of those.

Execpt jp they are good but hk's still better.

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>>29377639
>Reply to this post is you have one!
Unless I do an A4gery next, I'll probably use one in my next build just because they look cool.

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In for bipod edition.

>>29381462
Does the collar have a set screw? How does it stay in place

>>29377639
> Cons: -The inside of the bolt chamber and gas key are lined with chrome not their coating. They say this is because chrome is easier to get constant amount of layering there.

You idiot and fucking lair cryptic or know nothing lady answering the phone or email.

Chrome is strong and tough coat. Stronger than crytpic proprietary low friction coat evident by their decision to have internal chromelined than cryptic due to supposedly concern that cryptic would wear off laughable quick and customer potentially discovering this and expose it.

Chrome... I love chrome.

>>29381472
>How does it stay in place
liberal tears

>>29374543
New thread.>>29381517

>>29381285
polish heritage actually, but live in pennsylvania

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>>29381472
I didn't install that shit, I assume like any other muzzle device...torqued on pretty tight.

>>29380925
> fresh brand new mag fully loaded with shitton tension and friction enough to stop his pleb carbine spring+buffer behind BCG from successfully strip first round from mag and retain enough momentum to chamber it.
>using weak ass non operator standard pleb teir carbine spring and carbine buffer/improperly charging the rifle by riding the ch or doing it for inch or so before letting go.
> hurr fugg dat magazine what a shit hurr fuck lancer POS

Idiotic everybody. Idiotic like fuck!

>>29381538
Oh

>>29380709
Would also suggest the SD-E if you like flat triggers.

Shit's sex. IF you like flat triggers.