If Ion canons were available from the beginning, would we have

sure

>>29250379
If we've been able to drone the shit out of them non stop for months now and it still hasn't worked, probably not.

Well, maybe if you tell them allah is pissed and his shiny laser of doom it'd work. They are pretty stupid.

>>29250409
ion canons are much more effective compared to drones

>>29250379
We cannot destroy ISIS not due to a lack of firepower.

>>29250379

Did the Ion Cannon destroy NOD?

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>>29250379
your funny, you think you need fancy lasers or even gun powder to kill kabobs. the mongols only used bows and conquered the mud slimes with ease. isis is part the greater muslim community, so to beat isis you need to destroy the greater body they are a part of. you need to be willing to commit genocide against all of the middle east, if america was willing to sterilize the entire region it could have been done with sticks and stones, but sense we are not willing to do that not even the ability to vaporize the entire with the press of a button with nuclear fire can help us.

you should be able to infer this by now, after how many failed wars against "insurgency's" (an insurgency being the military aged males of a population at war without a nation to turn to)

>>29252440
vaporize the entire 'region' with the press of a button

>>29252440
>find all the ISIS bases
>ion canon them from orbit
>no survivors
>ISIS is gone

Not hard to comprehend

>ozone layer destroyer
>remove atmosphere
>earth becomes like mars

>>29252731
your think all isis members spend all there time in what you call "bases"
even if you kill all isis members you think there friends and sons won't form a new organization thats many times as strong and cruel as isis

lets look at history. Vietnam was a failure, Iraq was a failure, Afghanistan is a new benchmark for how badly you can fight an insurgency.
war is a contest of wills, no technology will change that.

>>29252780
>>earth becomes like mars

So what's the problem here?

Lower gravity would be pretty cool.

>>29253019
BUT YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE AN INSURGENCY.
They won't like us using them to keep their economy afloat, no level of aircraft, artillery or military prescence can defeat the red faction

>>29252731
>find all the ISIS bases
>throw JDAMs at them
>no survivors
>ISIS is gone
not hard to compre- OH WAIT

>>29253178
this

>>29250379
No, ISIS is too useful, faм.

>>29253007
then you just kill any new insurgents. The nazis didnt keep fighting forever.

>>29253178
except that we arent doing that

It's like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

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>>29250379
>>29251958
>>29252731
>>29255246
Maybe you should try actually bombing ISIS instead of volunteer doctors.

OP you're dumb.

ISIS isn't a singular insurgency, its a fucked up ideal. Baathist ideologues got really good at convincing young, dumb, mostly european muslims to take all their money and come earn their women in the middle east.

And they're all fucking retarded. They throw numbers at their problems like the soviets did, just with much wider, open desert.

Seriously though, young muslim men are stupid and entitled, especially western ones. A lot of them are contacting terrorism lawyers in europe to get passage back to their home countries.

>>29255290

ISIS literally hides caches of weapons in civilian hospitals. Or they have a presence in the hospital and there's nothing the staff can do about it.

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>>29255249
>except that we arent doing that
Implying

>>29255304
national socialism must be impossible to defeat amirite?

>>29255349
Google "isis controlled areas". All those areas still have insurgents alive that are controlling them, that we havent bombed.

>>29255349
This is russian airstrikes, retard

>>29250379
we could do it now with current tech if the govt would take the gloves off and stop worrying about some collateral damage
don't need no fancy space gun

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>>29255290
Gotta do both senpai
sandniggers get mad if you start blowing shit up and genocide is expensive both in terms of resources and political support, so you gotta do that hearts and mind bullshit if you don't want to be stuck in a perpetual quagmire of shit

>>29250379
It's almost impossible to kill an ideology by force.
Better to subvert/change/draw people away from it until it starves and dies.

>>29255408
And yet national socialism was crushed by force

>>29255434

No, National Socialism as a political and military force was crushed by force.
It was only through the Denazification policies enacted by the Allies that killed the ideology. If they hadn't done that, you could bet your ass a German insurgency would continue. Instead our ancestors rolled up their sleeves, opened their check books nearly unconditionally and did the hard work modern leadership is just incapable of doing.

...unfortunately they did a far too good job at it.

>>29250379

ISIS exists not because of a lack of weaponry.

>>29255290
Pretty sure that was in Afghanistan.

>>29250379
>ion cannons
>getting through upper atmosphere
no they are wothless

>>29253007
This.

You've got to decapitate the organization. And we don't have sufficient intelligence in place to locate them in a timely manner.

>>29256517
yea thats what NOD thought at first

>>29255290
Maybe you should try issuing target coordinates in the heat of battle.

>>29256080
Lol no, germany ran out of men and will to fight, they had no desire to stage an insurgency against the western powers. Any insurgency they would have started would have been directed against the soviets anyway.

>>29256684
why not?

Have we tried bombing Burundi?

>>29253007
>Afghanistan is a new benchmark for how badly you can fight an insurgency.

wrong, afghanistan is a place where empire dies, look at history itself, everybody that went to afghanistan got shreked HARD

there's only one way to win this, it might sound edgy but it's the harsh truth

your ennemy is invisible and fight with terror, your only way to win is so to fight with terror, if yo ubring fear into your ennemy and all the next generation to come from their place, then you won and no i'm not talking about just dropping bomb and probably anuclear that shit is way too easy i'm talking about actual fear

>kidnap people in mass
>murder went skyrocket
>case of hard drug found in food/water supplies
>polluted water in major cities
>uncultivable soil become common
>deforestation

all you do is having an impact on their mind just so they can understand that, when you start a war against somebody, suddenly everything around you die, major problem is that war today are ruled by convention of politics so all war must look "clean", if the US really wanted to destroy ISIS at this point they would have dropped VX and called it a day

>>29258889
dude the ionosphere is just a many miles thick shield as far as incoming ions or charged particles are concerned not to mention earth strong magnetic shields that protect us from the solar radiation.

it's impossible to hit the surface with ions from space.

>>29259499
*many hundred miles

>>29259499
Battle of Sarajevo proves you wrong

>>29255395
Mongols did it just fine with picket forces of archers and horsemen. Just raze two or three cities, kill literally everyone within them, and let the rest of the populace know that if you have to come back, you're going to kill them all.

>>29259712
how exactly?

>>29253019
dude space isis whoa

>>29250379
If an Ion Cannon can not destroy a construction yard in one shot than how would it ever defeat ISIS?

>>29259290
>why not?
Why we don't have good intelligence?

Because everyone in the CIA wants to wear a tuxedo, hang around casinos and nail Pussy Galore. Nobody wants to grow a beard, live in a shithole and infiltrate the Taliban or ISIS. So it's all remote sensing, no HUMINT and fuckups ensue.

>>29255395
No, the US bombed a hospital with an AC130 last year.

ISIS exists not because we can't destroy them, but because their very existence is beneficial to many politicians and friends of politicians.