Been confused but this stormtrooper in the movie pulls out the

>>28373873
Becase jayjay is a fucking hack director who couldn't cheorograph and direct a fight scene if his goddamn life depended on it.

It's kinda like when Jedi whirl their blade around when they activate it.

It doesn't do anything, it just looks cool on film.

>>28373889
Stop being a little bitch.

>28373873
Because it looks cool

>>28373873

It could just be his thing that gets him pumped up. I like to kiss my mags before inserting them.

>>28373916
you know I'm right nigga

>>28373905
This.

Also, he deploys it out, away from his body. He assumes the Jedi is a major threat, so he spins it around so its in line with his forearm. That's how you use a tonfa-style weapon.

I mean, if you're looking for realism in a Star Wars movie, this seems like a minor point.

>>28373889
This! Two stock blaster JJ is a fucking retard, and the new Star Wars sucked Wampa rectum.

Its fucking escrima. Using a tonfa or pr24 type weapon is common and this type of action is pretty common. And if anything else because it looks cool.

>>28373948

Whoa, whoa, whoa...don't try bring facts and realism to this. Next it'd be on why stormtroopers don't use the folding stock on their blasters.

>>28373918
>I like to kiss my mags before inserting them.

That doesn't make you special here faggot.

>>28373961
This man has a point, Starkiller Base should be receiving much more criticism, that was a bullshit plot device all the way around.

>>28373994
>Next it'd be on why stormtroopers don't use the folding stock on their blasters.

Which one? The folding stock or the M4 stock?

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I couldn't take any of this movie seriously after they revealed Kylo fuccboi

Guy looks like the kind of person who posts pictures of himself with a katana and fedora on deviantart with a poorly drawn mlp OC shopped in.

>>28373873
You're concerned with the realism of how it's deployed, but not how it's used to withstand a super-flashlight?

>>28374001

I didn't say it made me special retard.

Because it's cuck wars, it's not supposed to make sense.

>>28373994
>why stormtroopers don't use the folding stock on their blasters
Actually, this one makes sense. Every piece of documentation says the E-11 is a good rifle. Hell, it eats up the new Battlefront pretty well. But Stormtroopers themselves can't hit shit.

The folding stock solves this. The stock gives stability and accuracy, the Stormtroopers don't use it and therefore are inaccurate.

>>28374020
holy shit
I'm gonna skip this and watch The Revenant instead.

>>28374024
Don't get defensive that you haven't popped your raifu cherry yet, faggot, it will happen when you're ready.

>>28373905
Flourishes do serve a purpose.

Running your wrist and arm though the range of motion lets you limber up and steady your grip. Without that it's easy to be too tense and stiff.

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It's a tonfa. You're supposed to have it held up against your forearm to block blows. He lengthens it, and spins it around to put it in the correct position. Looks fancy and superfluous, but it's just a cool way of deploying it correctly.

>>28374040
buddy of mine saw it, said it was so so

TRAITOR!

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>>28373905
Perhaps the twirling of the weapon is based off the marines who twirl their weapons in battle to show off to their enemies the deadly skill Marines have with the weapon?

>>28374038
>le inaccurate stormtroopers meme
They're pretty damn good at killing enemies without plot armor

>>28374040
Good choice actually

>>28374122
>Disney
>Marines

>SHOW ME YOUR WAR FACE!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3woEDTUbDYg

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>>28373990
>police are trained to twirl their hitting sticks about
Hmm ive been through police training with the PR24 and was never taught to spin it about like a baton to increase its effectiveness?

If anything twirling a PR24 or tonfa based weapon results in a lack of control and opens the user up to a windo of attack while the twirling takes place.

>>28374020
Fucking this

At first, I was like, this is gonna be a cool new villain, kinda similar to Vader
Then he took off his mask and he's literally just an edgy teen with anger issues and daddy issues

>>28374135
Such as? The Tantive 4 was pretty even, plenty of full transports left Hoth, I didn't see shit for rebel bodies on Endor...where did you see accurate Stormtroopers?

>>28374021
>You're concerned with the realism of how it's deployed, but not how it's used to withstand a super-flashlight?
Its already said in the movie it stops light sabers which are weak weapons the Jedi use as a crutch since they are useless in combat without their precious "light sabers" and "force powers"

>>28374020
>Guy looks like the kind of person who posts pictures of himself with a katana and fedora on deviantart with a poorly drawn mlp OC shopped in.

Congrats retard, that's the fucking point.

Kylo Ren is a complete fucking fanboy.
>Has darth vader's mask on a pedestal in his room
>Has a mask, not for any breathing problems, but because he sounds cool like his hero, darth vader
>Goes on little autistic temper tantrums over dumb shit
>Has a crossguard on his lightsaber because he thinks he's a knight
It's an interesting villian and way better than a darth vader 2.0

>>28374092
>He lengthens it, and spins it around to put it in the correct position
bu-but its already in the correct position when deployed??? spinning it around didnt extend it or lengthen it, wtf r u smoking???

>>28374040
Pretty badass movie. Dicaprio looks like hes about 75 years old though.

I still don't know how the stormtrooper knew Finn was a traitor.
They aren't all clones, so it isn't like he would have necessarily known his face or just had sporadic knowledge of it.

Maybe it was his display in his helmet? But then wouldn't all of the other troopers have known too?

>>28373873

Why do they have anti-jedi weapons when there are no jedi? They expecting this stormtrooper to take on that Luke Skywalker they don't even know the location of?

>>28374164
>>28374020
>tfw kylo did whiny anakin better than anakin

>>28374203
Why do they have anti-jedi weapons when there are no jedi?
because anyone can pick up and use a light saber.

>>28374203
If they find out that a stun baton works pretty well for deflecting lightsabers, why not use it just in case?

>>28374145
It's actually a pretty effective method when using it against an armed attacker. The arm length along with the speed at which you spin provides a good amount of force, and is used for disarming or breaking of limbs.

So everyone else realizes this whole movie was pretty much just A New Hope repackaged right? I mean I was trying to think "nah, it's just similar in some regards but not a rip-off" but then we got to fucking star killer base blowing up planets, later to be blow up by the fucking rebels.

Holy shit, how lazy can you get?

>>28374217
Lots of those floating around the galaxy. A retarded exasperated version used by your whiny master and another hidden in a turtle's box, you totally destroyed his kind of dumb argument.

>>28374203
It isn't necessarily an anti-jedi weapon.
iirc, stun batons used the General Grevious' guards had the ability to block them too, so maybe it's just the specific type of stun weapons in use in the period can also block sabers?

>>28374020
Yfw he's actually a marine turned actor

Seems like all the pretty marines become actors.

>>28374244
Only the retarded fanboys don't acknowledge this.

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>>28374256
Sabers were never very effective at cutting or slicing anyways their just shiny light based things, ever heard of the sun killing people with its shiny light??? yea I didnt think so..

IMO Tonfa's are the only legit traditional martial arts weapon. Those things have reach and will fuck bad guys up.

>>28374244
>inb4 Rey has to carry Luke around on her back during training in the next movie

>>28374259
That explains how he was able to effectively portray being an entitled little bitch.

>>28374217

There were... 2 in the entire movie, one of which was carried by an ally.

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>>28374244

>>28374244
Yes, everyone realizes that.

>>28373873

The stormtrooper has Josh Brolin's body

>>28373873
the handle is fixed. when he spins it around, it winds up the motor in the handle, so it electrifies the end.

sort of like one of those wind-up radios they make for use in africa.

Obviously.

>>28374193

So Dicaprio didn't give you your usual boner? Is it his job to be sexy for you?

>>28374333

holy fuck nigger you don't think they have batteries?

>>28374361
Of course not. If they had batteries, you wouldn't have to spin them.

>>28374140
Lol think I popped a hemorrhoid I laughed so hard

>>28374318
>OMG, it a super secret celebrity cameo!

Fuck JJ Abrams right in the culero with a concussed porcupine.

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>>28374278
>tonfas best traditional martial arts weapon
good luck with that against ninja stars my friend.

>>28373873

It looked like a nightstick and he was going to beat a nigga with it.

>>28374333
>spinning charges up the weapon.
then how come no other weapon has to be spun about considering their all laser guns and light sabers.

They just work!

>>28374400
Well I mean he pretty much is Galactic police, and Finn is black, so

>>28373889
>>28373978
>shitting on the episode 7 fight choreography
Did you see the abortions that were the prequels? At least these fighys had choreography.

>>28374078
>>28374078
>>28374078
>>28374078

This a thousand times.

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>>28374020

>that nose

>>28374333
Is there any proof that the weapon needs to be spun about to charge it up? what is a reference weapon with similar characteristics in the SW universe....
ANSWER: NONE!

>>28374403
They spin them up off screen before the fights happen, obviously. The baton doesn't hold a charge as well.

ITT 5 people don't understand sarcasm.

>>28374279
Abrams isn't directing the next film so it won't be a crappy rehash of Empire.

>>28374181
No, when he extends the end it's "backwards" the long part should be along his forearm as a blocker

>>28374420
>>28374403
>>28374361
Are Star Wars fans this autistic?
Do you people not understand sarcasm?

>>28374197
The book released at the same time of the movie details Finn's past as a trooper and the members of his squad. So it's assumed TR-8R is one of past comrades.

>>28374438
JJ didn't write the damn thing solo.

>>28374413
Are you retarded? The prequels had tons of choreography in the duels... that was the fucking problem. They were like scientifically exact dance steps, not emotion filled battles. The story and shit was awful in the prequels, and the story was especially awful in the The Jew Awakens because it was literally A New Hope with new special effects and a Mary Sue lead character.

>>28374438
You think Rey will lose a hand too, like Luke and Annie before her?

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>>28373873
How did this guy even know the other random person he sees on the field is a traitor?

>>28373978
It's a folding foregrip.

>>28374473
See
>>28374453

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>/k/ related thread: 4 replies

>thread about Star Wars/oil change intervals/furry porn/stew recipes: 264 replies | 145 images

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>>28374135

>>28374361
What kind of batteries would a weapon of the empire utilize considering their all based off plasma coil inverter technology. I highly doubt any form of "batteries" are used in the weaponry of the era.

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>This thread

>>28374474
Bullshit fan fiction. That blaster is based off a Sterling, and JJ "I'm gunga take yer guns" Abrams couldn't seperate his head from his ass long enough to do something correctly, then he proceeded to shit on a movie franchise, that let's be honest, was already down like a crippled elderly woman.

>>28374168
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHfLyMAHrQE&t=3m0s
>Rebels have every tactical advantage.
>Storm troopers breach and clear entire ship only taking 2-3 casualties.
Litterly the first thing they tried to do with the storm troopers was establish they were better than every thing else.

>>28374511
The empire supports gun ownership, all the stormtroopers have guns if you watch the movies and are trained in how to use them.

>>28374537
>Litterly the first thing they tried to do with the storm troopers was establish they were better than every thing else.
then how come stormtroopers have poor marksmanship? Why are there no sniper stormtroopers or stormtroopers with explosive based weaponry like bazookas or rocket launchers?

>>28374178
For the last time, it's not a cross guard.

He can't properly build his own saber, it's exhaust vents. Notice his beam is all raggedy and unequal? And it sounds like trash compared to Lukes and it's beam?

And during the Knights of Ren massacre flashback, he's the only one with a saber in the group.

>>28374460
A New Hope also has a "Mary Sue" lead by your logic

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>>28374273
>Lightsabers
>never very effective at cutting or slicing

>>28374538
And the guy who directed the film made them the losers who lost a fucking weaponized planet.

>Checkmate midichlorians

>>28374554
midichlorians have always been canon in the SW universe its where Jedis get their mind powers from.

>>28374544
There are multiple uses of rocket launchers and sniper rifles in Canon material

>>28374203
It's a riot control weapon, you'll notice he has a smaller baton and a shield that he drops prior to deploying his fuck off stick.

>>28374170
You missed my point entirely. Op is arguing the realism in a decidedly unrealistic scenario.

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>>28374554
how come when killing a jedi they dont drink the blood of their foe or consume them to gain their midichlorians?

>>28374545
I'm not the guy you're arguing with, but is actually kinda is a crossguard.
I mean that isn't what it was designed for, they're exhaust vents because Kylo uses a cracked crystal for some reason (to be edgy?)
But yeah it does double as a crossguard, as gay as that is.

>>28374547

Luke had to train his powers dumbass.

>>28374572
>Op is arguing the realism in a decidedly unrealistic scenario.
Speaking as a intelligence officer, how is battlefield strategy unrealistic?

>>28374580
>crossguard has no function
Its proved to be a cross guard in the movie because no light saber can pass through the cross guard.

>>28374580

except a lightsaber would slice right through the metal of those "exhaust vents"

>>28374573
They use a tank girl style dehydrator.
IV drip that shit while they sleep.

>>28374573
Well, I don't have any canonical backing on this, but much in the way you can't drink someone's blood to change your bloodtype, and can't recieve transfusions from people of different bloodtypes, I would assume that it's just something you're born with and can't change, at least not not that easily.

>>28374573

why not culture the midichlorians, grow them, put them in a pill, eat the pill?

or snort the motherfuckers?

>>28374505
TRAITOR

>>28374273
>ever heard of the sun killing people with its shiny light???
You do realize that earth's atmosphere and magnetosphere prevent exactly that from happening, right?

>>28374595
I didn't say it didn't have a function, iirc he used to to burn Finn's shoulder when they were fighting at the end.
It's just that it looks pretty gay.

>>28374596
I don't think so

>>28374596
>>28374580
>>28374595
I'm assuming those cross guards have a power adjusting mechanism capable of reducing its cutting ability while still maintaining enough power to block laser bolts and lightsaber swings (Like the younglings sabers)

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>>28374596
>herp, derp. Lightsabers cut through crossguards.
Not if the metal is made of the same material the anti light saber weapons are made out of.

Checkmate!

>>28374596
You're ignoring cortosis, mandalorian iron, and all the other lightsaber resistant materials. On top of the fact that the metal of the vents could simply be shrouds surrounding the beam so as to protect your hand from slippage, so if you were to cut through the metal you would simply hit beam.

>>28374567
>There are multiple uses of rocket launchers and sniper rifles in Canon material
I didnt see any explosive weapons the troopers carried in the new SW movie Force Awakens?
What movie did you see?

>>28373873
if this weapon can block light sabers which stop lasers, then why dont the troopers twirl it in front of them to block the rebel laser fire?

>>28374625
No, they're literally just plasma exhaust vents.
Kylo uses a cracked crystal in his saber, which makes the blade unstable and I guess it gets too hot, so he has exhausts to vent off the excess heat from the core

>>28374612
There's a couple theories on that, one is that its exactly what Plageius did to make Anakin such a powerful Force Sensitive, which apparently transferred to his children (and their grandchildren).

Other theories though, say that Midichlorians aren't responsibile for the powers, they're just a byproduct or attracted by it. As such, they're good indicators of force capability, but generally do nothing otherwise. This would also partially explain why no one cares about them after the first movie.

>>28374580
This is a guess, but he probably uses a cracked crystal due to there being a lack of good quality crystals.

It could also explain why the First Order uses the crystals to power they're replacements for turbo lasers on ships. They might be not high enough quality for a saber, or there's an impurity that makes them power suitable for lasers/shipborne blasters.

>>28374178
This. I thought he was an interesting character if only because he's just an edgy kid acting a lot tougher than he actually is. He's not the usual badass, just a douchey little tryhard.

>>28374655

Why don't they have personal force fields?

Damn, Star Wars is fucking stupid

>>28374662
are midichlorians living beings such as can they be captured or killed? Do they have cities or social stratification of any kind? What are their reproduction rituals?

>>28374668
Also possible
There isn't much about it in the movie, and I haven't read the novel yet, so who really knows?

>>28374662

That's a pretty good explanation. They're like force herpes

>>28374588
>arguing realism
>in star wars
I have no doubt that you're an officer.

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>>28374655
If I was a stormtrooper I would carry my rifle and baton. Into battle I would spin the baton deflecting all incoming fire then when reaching the enemies or seeing the whites of their eyes would kill all of them like a total badass.

>Arguing about realism & minor details of a movie about space wizards with lazer swords.

>>28374678
Dunno, it seems to consist off "be with people who are force powerful"

>>28374689
That's probably a nice way to put it.

>>28374178
Yeah this.
He's like someone I would expect to shoot up his school, an unliked emo whatever.

>>28374677
This actually bothered the fuck out of me in Episode 1 where the droid army has nearly indestructible force fields that just disappear for every other movie, until the Skykiller Base shield that is easily defeated by lead footed flyers.

>>28374668
I think this is it, because the Empire was supposed to have regulated crystals like fuck, they might be super hard to find, but this got me thinking, Vader's saber fell into the energy well with Sidious. What if the saber was destroyed but the crystal survived, albeit cracked?

>>28374637
I, II, III, IV, V, and VI

>>28374732
Red lightsaber crystals are artificially made which is why they are red.

>ITT people confuse a fantasy film with science fiction and complain it's not realistic or makes sense

>>28374744
That doesn't mean they can't be regulated or hard to come by.

>>28374001
Or just like, anything. I mean, why don't we talk about why the stormtrooper armor is white? Or how is provides zero protection? It's mentioned in the movie the masks they wear don't even filter toxins.

>>28374765

You mean like how meth is artificially made yet hard to come by?

Star Wars is fucking stupid.

If you can make the crystals every motherfucker should be running around with a red lightsaber and personal forcefields like the droids had. Blasters would be only useful for hunting.

>>28373873
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z05WGLTDJbg

>>28374800

The Hutts should be making a shit ton of money off those crystals.

>>28374800
I thought only force-sensitives could use lightsabers effectively, and they took tons of practice not to decapitate yourself?

>>28374715
Isn't that basically what happened?

>>28374616
Oh look a scientist. Tell us how magnets work, genius.

>>28374836
then you thought correctly. finn confirmed for force sensitive. meaning he'll be the new protagonist after Rey goes to the dark side.

>>28374836
Not sure if that's true or not, but Finn was really shit with a lightsaber. I'm surprised Ren didn't outright kill him immediately.

>>28374836

Boba Fett uses a lightsaber in the EU and fights Vader with it. He holds his own too.

>>28374800
It's more like artificial diamonds you fucktard. It's a complicated process that requires technical expertise and expensive equipment.

>>28374862
>the EU
the EU is a massive sack of shit though. only force users were supposed to be able to use lightsabers well. everyone else gets vibroblades.

>>28374637
Not that anon but for one thing 7 ignores literally everything in the books

>>28374768
>Why is stormtrooper armor white?
So the best of the best can be seen in all their imperial glory on the battlefield, obviously.


That commander in their shiny not-mando variant was obviously shiny for the same reason.

Also because economies of scale and the First Order might be using legacy equipment and/or can't afford to retool the production/can't get a new suit that's better enough to make retooling the production lines worth it.


>Zero protection
All the shots into it we we see in the movie were either from fuckoff powerful weaponry (bowcaster, Han's DL-44) or were shot by characters with plot armor into center mass at close range. Could be more of an M1 pot philosophy, if they get shot they're toast but keeping the shrapnel off will keep them combat effective.

>Not filtering toxins
That's a resource intensive feature to add. Why give everyone the ability when for less time and resources you can have a special NBC corps?

Also so the MCs would have an excuse to hide in the not-smuggling hole from the people that tractor beamed them, Just Like In The Originals!!1!

So plot, essentially.

>>28374875

It's a laser sword, you don't need the force to use a sword.

>>28374836
Effectively is the key word. Even a near total replacement cyborg like Grievous who could fight pretty well with them was lacking in the precognitive flow Jedi/Sith use when fighting and could only really keep up because of his augmentations.

>>28374875
>vibroblades

Finally something about Star Wars that can hold my interest, do go on.

>>28374842
>wahhh I'm a little bitch
>I'm going to drop out of school and run away from home
>fuck my dad, he doesn't understand me
>my old Nazi grandpa was right, I'm going to follow in his footsteps instead
>stupid dumb rebel scum
>kill them all
>hey let's make a MIRV deathstar, except like 10x as big
>daddy do you love me yet
>I wish grandpa was still alive

>>28374888
Because Disney said the expanded universe is non-canon. It's their property now and they want it fresh

>>28374293
Kylo Ren having one at all proved that you can just build one

>>28374768
>I mean, why don't we talk about why the stormtrooper armor is white?
Apparently the Clone armor was white because Kaminoans only see in UV, so they saw nothing wrong with it when they mass produced it. Later war equipment had camouflage. Palpy probably figured his peacetime army would look better in all white like the fresh and shiny clones.

>>28373873
Anyone have that pic of him chillin with all the jedi masters?

>>28374900
Not that guy, but if I remember correctly, vibroblades are just bladed weapons that vibrate fast enough to block lightsabers. Think High-Frequency Weapons from Metal Gear.

>>28374929
>that you can just build one
That's where they come from, they're all assembled by hand.

In fact, it's an early part of Jedi training to be able to assemble your own, and when you do it becomes yours.

>>28374891
I forget where it was from, but one of the books I think said jedi used the force to regulate how long a light saber extended. also I've always assumed that they used the force to get a sense for where the blade of their lightsaber was, seeing as how it would otherwise be weightless and impossible to feel where it was, and you would probably decapitate yourself twirling it around like they do.
>>28374900
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vibroblade

>>28374505
TRAITOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>28374464
Losing hands isn't unique to Luke/Anakin though. Losing hands is actually really common. So yeah, someone's losing a hand/arms

>>28374836
>only force users can use it effectively?
Yeah, if you consider "effectively" to include force throwing, surpa force strength, deflecting blaster bolts and all the other plot powers. Otherwise, not really.

>Shitloads of training to not kill yourself?
Yes, but any old idiot can do it if he wants to.

I think the reason nobody's running around with the things is that it's easier to train with "conventional weapons" that don't horrifically mutilate you at the slightest fuckup, and there are literal millennia of cultural indoctrination of "only force users use lightsabers"

>but lightsabers have training modes

Yes, but lightsabers are still considerably less forgiving of fuckups in battle than a vibroblade or what have you would be.

>>28374929
They're all handmade by the jedi that use them, stolen sabers notwithstanding.

>>28374929
Except for the crystal, the components of a lightsaber are easily acquired just about anywhere. It's the act of assembly and properly combining the parts that turns it into a proper lightsaber. The Sith Rule of Two allowed passage of that knowledge, and a well-trained Jedi knows it as well. Ren probably only got half the training needed before he went and built his own, and got lucky that it was functional, and didn't just explode.

The bigger thing with the crystals the Jedi used was that those particular ones resonated with their finders in the force, which gave a more personal attachment to the blade than a Sith's.

>>28374947
>Vibrate fast
Yes, for inflicting horrific wounds.

Lightsaber blocking comes from a mineral called cortosis that's tough to get. Weave it into your blade and blamo, lightsaber katana can't just slice your sword in half.

>>28374997
so yeah..high frequency blades.

>>28374655
Why don't all front-line soldiers in real life carry ballistic shields?

I still don't know how empire (or "first order", whatever) can even manage to exist until this point
>same pattern as VI, with a giant testicle in space, and with the same fucking hole on surface which took a few shot and the whole base explode
>empire's HQ just gives out an order, and 30 fucking seconds later, the rebel knows exactly what was the order, when and where will it be executed
It's like 90% employees of the empire is rebel's spy (and traitor). Is this even a real war?

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>>28375009
>>28374997
disregard that, I'm a fucking idiot who can't read.

>>28374960
>I forget where it was from, but one of the books I think said jedi used the force to regulate how long a light saber extended.
You're probably thinking of Jacen's Vongsaber, that used a little gravity lensing creature he'd attuned to as the focusing crystal. Most variable-length sabers just used a multi-crystal interchange mechanism.

About the crystal thing. Red crystals were artificially produced by the Sith becuase the Jedi owned the planet that all the other saber crystals came from.

The reason that Ren uses a cracked red crystal is probably because the method for producing them was lost at some point when the Empire fell apart, and it's probable that the Jedi destroyed all traces to the planet that the saber crystals come from.

>>28374545
>>28374580
>>28374668
>>28374732
>tl;dr Kylo Ren is a fudd and stargoogled up the designs to an out dated saber from a time when tech was shitty enough that the cooling vents were necessary, builds it with the modern tech, then proceeds to use /k/-tier level craftsmanship fucking it up to the point where even with the excess power bleed the blade is unstable as shit.
Bubba-fudd-space-sword

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>>28374164

>>28375043
You'd think he'd inherit some of Han's general know-how for mechanical shit.

>>28375016
There's plenty of subtle hints that it's a bunch of hardliners who don't have the resources you'd think they would.

And the planet blew up because it lost containment ON THE FUCKING STAR IT HAD JUST SUCKED UP.

Fuck, it's more believable than how the first Death Star got destroyed.

>>28375016
Star Wars movies have no concept of time or distance. Everything is practically instant, communication and travel across the galaxy, etc.

You can't look too far into it, just the nature of science fantasy.

>>28374545
>For the last time, it's not a cross guard.
yes it is, you faggot. they're vents, but they also make a crossguard.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kylo_Ren's_lightsaber

>>28375062
>sucking up a star
>more believable

They're both pretty silly, let's just say that.

>>28375058
Lightsabers aren't starships.

>>28375080
fair enough.

>>28375080
You're right, they're much less complex

>>28375016
>It's like 90% employees of the empire is rebel's spy (and traitor). Is this even a real war?

Holy shit that explains why the stormtroopers shoot-to-miss.

>>28375098
Ren is probably stupid enough to fuck it up. The second he runs into a problem, he'd start trashing the room in impotent rage.

>>28375080
I was talking about his super modified fucking blaster.

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>>28375066
>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kylo_Ren's_lightsaber
>KYber crystal
>KYlo Ren

Jesus fuck, did he take the name of the crystal to make his name? Now he's even more of a under-puberty faggot than I think he was

>>28375137
>Ren
You don't call vader "darth". why would you call kylo "ren"?

>>28375174
But I do call Vader "Darth".

>>28375170
Or it's the name given to him by snoke, kinda like how Vader's name was given to him by sidious

>>28375174
There is only one character in the entire EU named "Ren" that uses a lightsaber, whereas there are hundreds of characters that took on the title "Darth" that used lightsabers

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>>28375174
The collective Rens.

>>28375174
>Vader
>Darth "Vader"
>Ren
>Kylo "Ren"

>>28375199
See >>28375199

They're all a "---- Ren".

>>28375208
are you talking about?>>28375197

>>28375195
all of the knights of Ren were Rens.

>>28375208
see >>28375195

>>28375223
Only one of the Knights of Ren uses a ligthsaber, whereas every character that assumed the Darth title used a lightsaber

>>28375226
Kylo is still his name, Ren his associative title.

>>28375226
What does the weapon they use have to do with anything?
if Vader suddenly started using a bowcaster, would it be okay to start calling him Darth because no other darth uses one?

>>28373873
Honestly lost all interest in seeing the movie after I saw that in the trailer.

>>28375266
this.
I don't watch any movies where someone spins a tonfa.

>>28373873
I liked star wars as a kid, as an adult i do not give a fuck

>>28375275
Traitors...

>>28375248
No, Ben Solo is his name

Kylo Ren is the name he was given when he betrayed Luke and joined the Knights of Ren

>>28375252

why does a bow make a laser more powerful anyways

>>28375298
All of the Knights of Ren are still Rens though. Referring to him as Ren right now isn't much of an issue, seeing as how he's the only Ren that's been featured, but when they go more into them, it would get confusing which one you were referring to.

>>28375308
Because the Wookies need to feel better about not being able to speak Basic for shit.

>>28375308
because bowcasters actually fire a projectile. the two ball things on the ends create a magnetic field. the projectile is magnetically launched and charged with plasma energy.

also chewie modified the fuck out of his.

>>28375275
That sucks man. You're missing out on hundreds of classics

>>28375308
The orbs on the end of the arms are magnetic accelerators or some bullshit, there's no string. Yeah it's silly.

>>28374040
Literally made me really want to get a black powder rifle. What did DiCaprio use?

>>28375341
>>28375347

Oh so its a fucking railgun that shoots plasma. That actually sounds badass. How the fuck can spacesasquatches have those but rich organizations like the First Order and Empire don't.

>>28374040

Its already out of the theaters in my area but for some reason they are bringing it back for a few showings next Thurs and Fri

>>28375399
The Bowcaster fires a Plasma-Charged metal bolt

>>28374537
a bit late but also the troopers were told to let luke and pals escape the deathstar in ANH and then made short work of Hoth in ESB. So eat shit fuccboi.

>>28374078

Also its a reset routine to clear your mind. Tennis players and others do this kind of shit. It really does help your focus in a major way.

>>28375399
My guess would be cost

Ha, I thought I was on /tg/.

Surprised this thread has been so active on /k/.

>>28375399
Chewie modified his to be semi auto and built it with some stronger shit iirc. Normally they were single action and needed to be cocked back after every shot.
they are more accurate and more powerful than normal blasters though. chewing blew up a speeder with one shot with his.
supposedly they were too unwieldy/heavy/powerful for normal people to use effectively, but han shooting one kind of debunked that. or disney didn't give a fuck.

>>28374217
>because anyone can pick up and use a light saber.
Anyone can pick up and use a lightsaber, but it is the combination of precognition and formal training that lets it be useful on the battlefield. Otherwise you're just that idiot who brought a sword to a gunfight and gets shot dead.

>>28374228
>If they find out that a stun baton works pretty well for deflecting lightsabers, why not use it just in case?
Because if the lightsaber user is a regular person that lacks precognition, then he's fucked if you just shoot at him with your gun. If the lightsaber guy is a force user that has precognition, then normal people like you are at an extreme handicap and it would be extraordinarily foolish to engage them in melee combat.

Either way you're better off staying at range and shooting unless your are some kind of best-of-the-best grandmaster who is skilled enough to overcome all the bullshit ways a Jedi can cheat the laws of physics in a fight.

>>28375062
>There's plenty of subtle hints that it's a bunch of hardliners who don't have the resources you'd think they would.
I would believe that if the First Order just had a small fleet of ships that was continuously evading the grasp of the Resistance (or is it the Republic and their "Massive fleets" that are never seen?). But then they revealed their fucking PLANET SIZED SUPER WEAPON that is larger than anything ever seen before and capable of destroying neighboring solar systems by firing lasers through hyperspace.

That's the sort of thing that is achieved by super powers with near unlimited resources at their disposal. (INB4 Snokes rips of Palpatine even further and is secretly the leader of the New Republic).

>>28375468
In the past they were individually made tribal type weapons weren't they? So the wookies would have been fairly guarded with them?

>>28375388
Thats the one that marysue mind-tricks, its not TR8R.

>>28375575
Most likely, yeah, but it's trivial to get blasters built for human/near-human ergonomics that are effective enough not to make a difference that there isn't much point.

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>>28375589
>marysue
>Fanfic self-insert character

>>28375485
>extraordinarily foolish to engage them in melee combat.
yet mandalorians specifically weaved some vibroblades with cortosis so they would be able to deflect a lightsaber.

>>28374244
Pretty much.

Still enjoyed it though.

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>>28374505

TRAIIIIITOOOORRRR!!!!

>>28375606

it was written by a woman

>>28374545
> it's not a cross guard.

guess his broad sword technique meant nothing then.

>>28374854
Yeah, the first time I saw the movie I thought that the lightsaber part was dumber than it actually was.

Both of them were just swinging like tards and running away, Kylo is avoiding killing her until the part where she starts winning and that was just only like two swings.

They also establish that he is not healthy at all.

>>28375043
This is actually the official story.

>>28375673
That still doesn't make Rey a Mary Sue, and she's a lot more fucking subtle of a character than Luke and Anakin were in 4 and 1.

>>28374020
Say what you want, he is 2-0 against home decor.

i learned everything i need to know about this movie from /k/
i probably wont even watch it
>oh han solo dies you say? fuck it im out

>>28375729
reminder that the term 'mary sue' has lost any credibility as a meaning.

Anyone caught saying it having no idea what they are even writing.

>>28374170
>lightsabers
>weak
>Jedi use them as a crutch
This has got to be bait
>they are useless in combat without the ancient weapons and techniques they have trained their entire life with
Who'da thunk

>>28375756
It's the next movie (Episode VIII) that matters.

And apparently the next director said they have special wacky plans.

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>>28375043

>tfw he actually put the ghetto vents to good use

Was pleasently surprised

>>28375729

How is she at all subtle?

>>28375766

Instantly the best at everything. Everybody loves her. Etc.

God damn fanboys are blinded.

>>28375797
This

Actually went from hating the Lightsaber design to liking it after the movie

>>28375797
From what I've heard, they finally worked out what they'd attempted with the fighting props in ep 4: the blades actually providing scene illumination instead of just being a rotoscope/cg effect done in post.

>>28375804
>Instantly the best at everything
name an example of this?
she was a good pilot and could work on ships because she had been doing that her entire life.
she knew about the modifications to the millennium falcon that han didn't know about because they were done after he lost it
she was probably trained by luke in the force before she was abandoned on jakku
she had assistance for almost the entire movie, and when she didn't, she got kidnapped.
she barely beat an emotionally and physically crippled kylo with the help of finn

>>28375804
>Instantly the best at everything. Everybody loves her. Etc.
And Luke and Anakin weren't?

God damn, haters love hunting for anything they can use to attack it.

>>28375832
>she knew about the modifications to the millennium falcon that han didn't know about because they were done after he lost it
She was the one who did a lot of the work.

>>28375804
>Instantly the best at everything.

>left on a shit world
>either had to git gud or die

>>28375832

She wasn't trained in the force you're just pulling that out of your ass.

She never flew the millenium falcon nor stepped foot in it just overheard some sandnigger bragging about his hemi.

She got kidnapped before she learned how to close her eyes for a second then BAM force mastery.

She wasn't a good pilot again you're pulling that out of your ass, she had some hovercycle fucking thing that's not a spaceship.

No education, slave, scavenger, doesn't even know what parts she's exchanging for food are worth, yet knows every fucking thing about every fucking thing.

Of course she was predestined to beat kylo she's a fucking Mary Sue

And everybody loves her. Did you jerk off in the theater fanboy or wait til you got home?

>>28375863

Oh yeah that world was full of badasses right

>>28374178
>>28374715
>>28374842
>>28374901

Well, that sums the character pretty well actually.

>>28375873
>And everybody loves her

confirmed for not watching the movie and projecting.

literally 2 characters end up caring about her at all. I swear most just ignored her.

>>28375873
>doesn't even know what parts she's exchanging for food are worth
While I don't disagree with you, there's a difference between not knowing what they're worth and not being able to do anything about it because Ugly is the only game in town.

Unless there's some blurb about how one of the parts is worth like six billion credits.

>>28375873
>She wasn't trained in the force you're just pulling that out of your ass.
I'm making a logical assumption based off of the events of the movie, and making a guess as to where they're going to take it. it's possible she never was, but not probable.
>She never flew the millenium falcon nor stepped foot in it just overheard some sandnigger bragging about his hemi.
I never said she did. but she was a scavenger that flew shit all the time, so it's understandable she would know about some modifications that were done to it. and when she first got in it, she was bashing it into walls and shit.
>She got kidnapped before she learned how to close her eyes for a second then BAM force mastery.
so she got kidnapped before she was good at something. sounds like she wasn't instantly good at it then.
>She wasn't a good pilot again you're pulling that out of your ass
except she was. she fucking practiced with a flight simulator in her spare time, and said in the movie she had flown before.
>No education, slave, scavenger, doesn't even know what parts she's exchanging for food are worth, yet knows every fucking thing about every fucking thin
education in what? what does being a slave or a scavenger have to do with anything? and it was established the guy was a huge cunt and gave her less for the same parts for no reason.

Gripes that I have:

>Masters the force in under an hour.
Um, okay whatever.

>Kylo Ren goes from badass laser stopper in the first scene to can't even beat a girl who's never held a lightsaber in the last scene.
That was lame but I just assume he got mindfucked by her mindfucking force power and the fact that he just killed his Dad. Plus, the dark woods with snow to reflect the saber lights was a really cool setting, thought it was neat-o.

tl:dr it was a good movie people.

>>28375912
Non-enemies she interacted with:

the soccer ball -- loves her
Finn -- loves her
Han -- loves her
Chewie -- loves her
that old bar owner with the glasses -- loves her

Even the sandnigger she ganked the droid from loved her because he didn't just shoot her.

>>28375961
plus he just got shot in the gut by a high powered rifle that you just saw send troopers tumbling through the air.

>>28375949
>I'm making a
...ideaturd that you pulled out of your ass
>she was a scavenger that flew shit all the time
plopping out another one
>when she first got in it, she was bashing it into walls and shit.
2 seconds later she's pulling deathdefying insane expert manuevers
>so she got kidnapped before she was good at something
until she remembered to just close her eyes and instant mastery
>she fucking practiced with a flight simulator in her spare time, and said in the movie she had flown before
scavenger slave bitch tried on dirty helmets and ate crackrock while staring at the sand in her spare time
>education in what?
precisely, no education, ignorant uneducated sand trash

>>28375970
Honestly, I spent every zoomed out desert scene looking at her silhouette and admiring those long legs. So, I would definitely hit it.

However,
Soccer ball - loves her only because she saved it from the scavenger.
Finn - wants to fuck her which is just natural.
Han - Doesn't really give a shit
Chewie - Just kind of likes her.
that old bar owner with the glasses - wants to use her most likely, is just social networking.

then there's the merchant who kept ripping her off, the thugs the merchant sent to steal her droid, and her parents left her ass to rot on that planet so they probably didn't love her either, just guessing.

>>28376018
>I didn't pay attention during the movie but I'm going to complain about the character anyway

>>28374678
Think bacteria that live off of Force energy. If you're strong in the Force the bacteria will flourish.

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>>28374273
>lightsaber not being effecting at cutting/slicing
Tell that to
>Battle droids
>Arms/wrists
>Blast doors
>Random machinery/background objects
>Darth Maul's waistline
>That tree that Rey fucking cuts down with no effort at all
>The bottom of an AT-AT
>The forks of an Endor Speederbike
>Boba's gun
>Jango's neck

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>>28375961
>Masters the force in under an hour.
>Luke gets to similar level of training from 30 second vague tutorial from Obi-Wan

>>28376025

You fanboys are just so glad there's anything Star Wars to watch you look past all the flaws. Like some 30 year old virgin who finally fucks an ugly fat chick and marries her.

>>28376076
there were flaws. you just didn't mention any of them, and claimed things that happened in the movie didn't happen. pay attention next time you watch it, okay sport?

>>28376076
As opposed to what? Your hatred that's so intense you couldn't even pay attention to the plot?

>>28376075
I don't remember him doing the mind trick until like the 3rd movie.

>>28374694
>teleports behind you
>spins baton out of sheath
pssh nothing personnel youngling

>>28376103
No, but he's doing blindfolded blaster deflection with only "stretch out with your feelings" and TKs the torpedoes. Just because they don't use the same powers doesn't mean anything. Luke had no reason to even try it in the movies before that point.

Or are you going to try to claim Anakin's natural force progression allowing him to fly a craft normally impossible for humans to manage isn't similar?

>>28374901
anyone who goes on /pol/'s life story

>>28374505
TRAITOR

>>28376132
Luke constantly fucked up the deflection thing though
And he only managed the torpedo thing with Obi-wan helping him out and Han watching his ass.

>>28376099
>>28376093

You mean those regurgitated plot points I had seen before? It was fucking horrible. The only thing that was cool was 3d lightsabers whizzing in front of my face. That doesn't make up for that crap script one bit.

>>28374505
TRAITOR!

>>28374217
It was explained pretty extensively in games that people using it don't count in for the lack of resistance after striking a target and end up chopping off a leg/foot/bodypart in the after swing.

Think of how a person chopping wood with an axe for the first time, but with the ability to phase right through a limb.

Here's my personal opinion on the movie
Good:
+++Literally everything about Ren in general, he was fantastically acted and portrayed an emotionally stunted autist well
+++Like seriously Ren was the best part of the movie

The eh:
=The Republic not really doing much at all
=The Resistance using decades old ship designs
=This is a neutral thing because you could reason the Republic having a tenious peace with the first order (pre-not-deathstaring) and equips the resistance with arms and firepower in addition to military commanders (essentially how the USA used rebels in afghanistan), explains the resistance still using shitty X-Wings
=Han dying was pretty obvious

The bad:
-Finn being raised and indoctrinated from birth only to turn around in 5 seconds and murder hundreds of the people he worked/trained/lived with (ex: the tie fighter hanger scene, the chase on jakku, suggesting fucking gassing stormtroopers)
-Hey guys lets do that whole planet buster thing again but BIGGER
-Why does the starkiller base have literally no standing fleet?
-Why does the first order have no tie bombers or tie interceptors?
-Why does the resistance have no Y-Wings or A-Wings?
-Even with the above explaination, why doesn't the resistance have any frigates or light capital ships?
-Rey magically becomes great at literally everything (her knowing about ships is justified, being a super great pilot and becoming fantastic at force use in 5 minutes is silly, if they do something with her in the next movies this could shift to positive)
-SNOKE THE SMOKEY FUCKING SNAKE
-SERIOUSLY
-HIS NAME IS SNOKE
-IT'S WORSE THAN SHEEV

>>28376153
>Use the force, Luke.
>The force will be with you, always.
Yeah, Obi-Wan really did a lot there.

And all Han did was give him the same opportunity Garven Dreis had to make the shot, Luke still had to guide them into the shaft.

>>28374342
yes

>>28376167
>Finn being raised and indoctrinated from birth only to turn around in 5 seconds and murder hundreds of the people he worked/trained/lived with (ex: the tie fighter hanger scene, the chase on jakku, suggesting fucking gassing stormtroopers)
It makers some sense when you take into account how terrified he is of the First Order once he has that "holy fuck we're the bad guys" moment during the village slaughter, since he has a good idea of how big they really are and what kind of firepower they have.

>>28376157
>episode 7 copied episode 4
>episode 4 was good
>episode 7 is shit
explain.

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>>28376157
>Episode 4
Space operations and fun times
>Episode 5
Some cool shit
>Episode 6
Ehhhhh also pretty good but whatever
>Episode 1
Still kind of of on board with the whole thing, Podracing was pretty cool and double light sabers and shit, overall not a bad movie not great either
>Episode 2
oh god why
>Episode 3
OH GOD WHY
>Clone Wars Cartoon
Star Wars is fucking badass

>Episode 7
Thanks for rebooting this shit JJ and giving us a by the numbers affair, but please pass it on so we can get something fresh.

.
.
I just want a live action version of clone wars with super operator troopers. I'd die happy.

>>28376196
>>Clone Wars Cartoon
>Star Wars is fucking badass

>1 > 2 > 3
not even faggots have this bad of taste.

>>28373873

Why dribble a basketball before you shoot a free throw?

Life is mysterious

>>28375797
I love how fucked up Kylos lightsaber blade looks. It looks like its barely on

>>28374836

Nope, that sounds like some dumb shit George Lucas said

>>28376210
>implying Clone Wars was bad
>implying Episode 2 and 3 were good

Holy shit how does sucking GLs cock feel like

>>28376248
take a sword and remove the blade. then try to swing it around effectively. lightsabers would be absolutely horribly balanced weapons. space magic is pretty much the only thing that would explain how jedi use them so well.

>>28374020
>Guy looks like the kind of person who posts pictures of himself with a katana and fedora on deviantart with a poorly drawn mlp OC shopped in.

Yes, and Immortan Joe is a fat white conservative.

Welcome to the SJW media agenda.

>>28376263
clone wars was bad, though.

5 > 4 > 6 > 7 > 3 > 1 > 2
any other order is for faggots. especially any other order that places 1 ahead of 3.

>>28376280

4>7>5>6

the fact you even rank 1-3 means you shouldn't be allowed in the discussion

>>28374732
That's an excellent point. Perhaps Ren even went so far as to rebuild Vaders saber from the wreck? Although that might be a more interesting plot device that wasn't mentioned in the movie.

>>28376280
>Clone Wars started mediocre and got fantastic
FTFY

1 is the worst because it's unnecessary. Nothing in it is important to the saga as a whole. 2 and 3 aren't great, but at least the story is relevant and a decent base a better director could've worked with.

>>28373873
This looks like something out of power rangers.

>>28376298
>hurr durr muh prequels are teh worst movies ever! some faggot reviewer said so!
they weren't even that bad. they were good movies, just not as good as the OT.

In addition to all the other shit in this thread it also gives the audience a moment to understand the device.

>>28376306
No but, 1 builds the world and shows the greater universe of Star Wars better than the other movies really did. The contrast between Naboo and Tatooine, the slave vs royalty thing, those were all cool to see.

It was a decent movie with decent acting and decent plot. 2-3 had crucial plot details but had terrible acting, terrible plot and terrible fucking everything.

The fact Vaders backstory is he is an easily manipulated whiney bitch who murders children because he thinks he is the good guy because some dude who says "UNLIMITED POWER" told him to is a sin against cinema and humanity as a whole.

>>28376369
>they were good movies

They are okay movies if you watch fan edits. Episode 1: The Phantom Edit is actually one of the best movies in Star Wars and could ride alongside the OT easily.

3 is pretty much unsalvagable.

>>28376422
That worldbuilding could've been done literally any other way. The entire plot is Palpatine tricking Gunray into creating a scenario that gets the current Chancellor voted out and him voted in as sympathy. You can literally cut the first one out and nobody will miss anything.

>>28376196
>I just want a live action version of clone wars with super operator troopers. I'd die happy.
Rogue One is shaping up to be OPERATOR REBELS DOING OPERATOR THINGS

>>28376450
Your argument implies the Star Wars is about politics, the empire and the Jedi. It is not.

Star Wars is a story of the Skywalker family. Anakins origins as a fucking slave, his freedom from slavery, and his antics as a child are, yes, crucial. George fucked up the next movies so it doesn't really matter.

>>28375729
she's exactly the same character as luke and anakin, except instead of being a pussy she walks around with one.

>>28376462
And there lies the problem. Episode 1 handled Anakin's thing as a side story, a plot device to get back to the politics, and threw him back in at the space battle because Lucas had run out of shit for him to do.

>>28374164
Adam Driver's like 30.

>>28376475
Which I think is why so many are butthurt over her being awesome.

>>28374280
Kek

>>28375684
>not healthy at all
What do you mean?

>>28374164
>edgy teen
I think "edgy manchild" is better.
>by canonical timeline he's like 35
>looks like fucking Severus Snape
Seriously don't know why they picked him as the actor. Really looks fucking out of place.

>>28374460
>They were like scientifically exact dance steps, not emotion filled battles.
Hate to break this to you but all movie fights are choreographed.

Shocking I know.

>>28376515
>got mindfucked by rey
>killed dad
>can't find luke
>emotional struggle between light and dark
>literally nothing in the movie is going right for him
>shot in the abdomen by a fucking hand cannon

>>28373873
To intimidate the jedi to use his saber instead of just force choking him or some shit

>>28376132
>No, but he's doing blindfolded blaster deflection with only "stretch out with your feelings"

he got fucked like a bitch doing the deflections. like. a. bitch.

>and TKs the torpedoes.

fuck off, he used to shoot wamprats on something or rather. basically he spent his hillbilly farmboy days driving around and shooting things. just like how most snipers tend to be farmboys from the south.

he couldn't do shit till the third movie.

>bitching about a character's abilities when we know practically nothing about their past
people don't actually do this, do they?

>>28376462
Topher Grace cut the entire prequel trilogy down to a single 85 minute film and Anakin's story still works out just fine.

>>28376482
And it still, SOMEHOW, was better than the shit fest that is Anakin SkyStalker in Episode 2 and Whiney Fuckface with no Moral Compass in Episode 3.

Seriously, he's creeper thristing on Padame hardcore but she was feelin' it low key so they eventually hook up. He was borderline going to rape her.

Seriously, rewatch Episode 1. It had a cool as fuck villian, Qui-Gon Jinn was a great character with good acting. Darth Maul was fucking cool even with an obviously gimmick saber. Action overall was okay, acting was okay, pod racing was pretty cool. It was an okay movie. Could have been done better, but wasn't bad.

If Episode 2 and 3 were more like Episode 1, that trilogy would have been much better received. Instead we saw a bunch of politics, a bunch of droid production facilities or barren wasteland planets with fuck.

The only reason people enjoy episode 2 and 3 is because there are actual battle scenes which are okay. Wookies destroying Droids are cool, and "EXECUTE ORDER 66" is one of the best things in that trilogy, if not all of Star Wars, but all the small little gems are burried SO FUCKING DEEP under useless shit that it's hard to enjoy those films.

And then, yes, they butcher the back story of movies greatest Villian.

REPUBLIC COMMANDO
THE SERIES
FUND IT

>>28376369

lololol

>>28376167
i actually liked ren, although i thought the way he got beaten was a bit gay. could be he was so fucked up, but then silly bitch should not have been able to resist his mind fuck so completely.

he was direct, sardonic, no-nonsense and a really angry motherfucker. he was arguably less of a bitch than lucas ended up making anakin. i kept getting the impression that adam driver was channelling xavier bardem as anton chigur a lot of the time. like the weird intonation to the voice, and the 'where is it?' part, like bardem's 'where is he?' questioning in the trailer park.

no, ren was fine. the rest of the movie was pretty mediocre though.

>>28376536
>down to a single 85 minute film

Sad that the trilogy is so shit that it can be cut down to less than 1/3 it's run time.

>>28376196
lol are you me? couldn't get into the clone wars though

>>28376539
Episode 1 was way too touchy-feely-happy. Yeah, Qui-Gon was cool, Darth Maul was alright (a bit overdone), but the pod racing and "happy little Anakin 24/7 despite all this horrible shit he's suppsedly been through" really fucking ruined it.
>also, Jar Jar Binks
>fuck everything even tertiarily related to that character with a rake

Episode 2 was actually better for me. Battle scenes didn't seem so small-scale and childlike, clones were cool.

>>28376535
Her flashbacks imply that she's the sole survivor of Kylo Ren's murder-tantrum, but that still leaves her being something like 7 when she gets dropped off on Jakku. What they should have done was make her fight with the two goons trying to steal the droid more vicious and one-sided. It'd sell her fight with Ren better if the first time we saw her fight was a brutal beatdown instead of a brawl.

Plus it's really hard to care about anyone claiming Rey is a Mary Sue when R2-D2 has been in every single film.

>>28376518
I read that the biggest issue with the actor's appearance is when they revealed his face, that him looking like a regular, even goofy, person would have had more impact if we hadn't seen his face until his confrontation with Han.

>>28376525
>he got fucked like a bitch doing the deflections. like. a. bitch.
Before. He. Put. The. Helmet. On. After he put the helmet on as a blindfold and really tried he got every block perfect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X69NCLxwLEY

>Force pulls the lightsaber out of the snow to cut himself free
Dude, have you just not watched the OT in a decade?

>>28376523
yeah, he had a pretty bad day didn't he

>>28376539
2 and 3's failings were solely because Lucas wrote and directed them. The story itself was salvageable, the actors did what they could with the dialogue and childish directing.

Maul didn't really do anything in 1. He was there to be a cool setpiece fight, nothing more. It took the Clone Wars series to really build him up as an interesting character.

>>28376586
>Dude, have you just not watched the OT in a decade?

basically, yeah.

>force pulls the light saber
>gets fucked up the ass by vader

luke was the son of the chosen one, and rey is just some cunt.

>>28376556
I liked Ren and Hux's interactions, snippy and passive-aggressive is great to see between villains.

>>28376559
Too be fair the only part of Phantom Menace he included was the Maul/Obi-Wan/Qui-gon fight and it apparently has pacing issues.

>>28376580
Someone did an edit where they replaced Jar Jar's dialogue with alien gibberish and supposedly it makes him a lot more tolerable.

>>28376608
Rey's probably a Skywalker, so it makes sense.

>>28376612
>someone edited out Jar Jar's voice
Well it's a start, but he's still a goofy character in a vast sea of goofy characters in the most kiddie-friendly, childlike movie of the entire series.

Seriously, what the fuck was going on? It's almost like they were trying their damnedest for a PG rating with that one.
>just remembered Lucas started as a fucking puppeteer
>thinking back on all the goofy characters in stuff like Labyrinth and The Dark Crystal and The Neverending Story, it actually kinda makes sense

>>28376608
>rey is just some cunt.
we don't actually know who her parents were you dumb motherfucker. there are plenty of assumptions, but we don't actually know anything for sure.

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>>28376580
>Battle scenes didn't seem so small-scale and childlike, clones were cool.

There were cool. But it also felt retarded as fuck. And aside from the Gungans v Droids at the end, the fights were fine for it being a kids movie.

>>28376601
I have no issues with the story itself. You can easily tell the story of Anakin being manipulated and pushed to the Dark Side, how the "chosen one" can be malleable like any other person. The story isn't the issue. It's the execution, and it's all Georges fault.

Pic related is like "Holy shit Star Wars is fucking badass" and then you hear Anakin bitch about how sand is coarse and rough and gets everywhere (but not like you) and you want to hang yourself.

>>28376612
When I mentioned the Phantom Edit earlier, I didn't mean the one where the guys cut 1-3 together actually. Back in the 2000's some guy made a fan edit of episode 1 and sold it on VHS, I shit you not. Here is the wikipage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Phantom_Edit

Those are the versions of Episode 1 and 2 I'll be showing to my children.

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>>28376643
There's a good chance part of why she was cast is because she looks a lot like the previous two Skywalkers...

>>28376665
yes.
>>28376643
>there are plenty of assumptions, but we don't actually know anything for sure.

>>28376651

>Those are the versions of Episode 1 and 2 I'll be showing to my children.

Might as well just raise them in a religion, it's a lesser version of child abuse

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>>28376691
>a fan edit so good it gained international attention on mainstream old media
>a fan edit so good lucas himself decided not to sue the fuck out of him for blatant infringement
>child abuse

Get a load of this scrub

>>28376691
>someone editing down Jar Jar to tolerable levels if child abuse

OKAY THERE BUD

>>28376620
ren is definitely a skywalker though, and one that is trained.

i can understand him losing at the end because he got hit with what's basically a bazooka (and survived, that's pretty fucking tough) but the mind fuck thing annoys me. reeeeeee.

>>28376732
His Jedi training was severely incomplete, as his lightsaber demonstrates. More likely than not he stormed off at some point in his training and that's when he fell in with the Knights of Ren, they fucked around for several years, then came back to wipe out the new Jedi. He likely needs the other six to be a really effective force.

>>28376651
the prequels are fucking amazing in conception and fucking bad in execution. anakin's path to the dark side should have been one of the greatest dramas in cinematic history, all of the ingedients were there (his mother, smug bastards telling him they couldn't interfere with slavery and lecturing him from their ivory towers, all that shit) and instead it fucked out into ass-poor emo kid god awful bullshit. from a director who had kurosawa as a major influence. i don't know fuck.

the best portrayal of young vader in the cinema was the kid in looper. search your feelings, you know it to be true.

>>28376749
>His Jedi training was severely incomplete

compared to rey, who had none. it's not an argument you can win.

>More likely than not he stormed off at some point

that's exactly what happened and why luke left. that's in the movie itself. however, his training was continued by snoke, and rey had no training at all.

remember, he can stop blaster bolts and eat bow shots. it's just a bit silly.

>>28376765
They did at least build up the conflict and issues Anakin had in TCW, but that's because Lucas wasn't in charge to fuck it up.

>>28376765
Check the wikipage out, and then go and download Phantom Edit and Attack of the Phantom.

He takes a bad movie and makes it good, man. He still had to work within the limits of what was there, but he literally found a way to make those movies good enough to recommend to people.

My problem is I haven't found an Episode 3 edit on the same level yet. A lot of fan edits really suck and can even make Episode 3 worse than it already is.

>>28376791
>compared to rey, who had none.
we
know
nothing
about
her
past

The most popular explanation is she's a skywalker that trained at the academy, Kylo came and fucked shit up, and killed everyone but her. kylo then turned on the rest of ren boys, and she was ditched on Jakku.

>>28376834
and she forgot all about it and didn't even know what a light saber was when she fucking saw one

that's some fucking grasping you're doing there.

>>28376791
>he can stop blaster bolts and eat bow shots
Neither of which have anything to do with lightsaber battles; he might not even be that versatile of a Force user, just someone who has a really good trick up his sleeve.

Look at his fight with Finn, despite clearly outclassing Finn he keeps showboating and manages to get himself injured.

>>28376877
Luke wiped her memory. and she was fucking 5 years old.

did you see all those visions when she touched the lightsaber, or were you out taking a shit when that happened?