Can russia really bring fog of war back? Or is this propagan

>>28287878
There are already USN and USAF ElINT units deployed and active in the area.

>>28287929
This means?

>>28287945
multiple RC-135's and AWACS jamming the living fuck out of russian units. the idea that an Mi-8 is going to be the key to jamming american C4ISTAR is retarded.
Russia is trying to enter the NetWar doctrine, while america has been at it for 30+ years

>>28287878
Dont let the slav propaganda fool you, they'd get shrekt by any NATO military

>>28287945
The Russians have some excellent jamming tech. We saw some of it Ukraine and have been trying to take in as much of it as possible for research purposes.

>>28287878
So it blocks comms.
Weird, it's almost like NATO has been doing this retarded shit inadvertantly for years.
>be in Afghanistan
>on convoy
>drive by Italian convoy
>radios stop working
>GPS fucks up
>sat phones all shit the bed
>learn later that their jammer jams fucking everything because talking to each other is for fags.

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>>28287878
Kinda like how Russia jammed that Turkish AIM-120B into their Su-24?

>>28287878

>Russia Jamming

Where was it when the Stink Turks shot down their plane?

russian "technology"

lol, slavshits cant even jam a piece of bread

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Blasting "cyka blyat" over the loud speaker is not jamming.

>>28288443
Underrated

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>>28287929
>try and have a conversation about Russian electronic warfare an shit
>HURR DURRR SLAVSHIT USA USA USA FUCKING VATNIK PIECES OF SHIT HURRRRR

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>>28288969

Russia fanbois on suicide watch.

>>28288969
Don't get mad because R*ssians and R*ssiaboos shat up this board for the longest time thinking they'd get circlejerked here like they do on /pol/.

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>>28289008
>hey look, a bunch of faggots

>>28288118
the only research is helping US assets log all of their observed emission modes

>>28289583
>YES YES. GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREQUENCIES. I FEAST UPON YOUR DATA

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>>28288443
NIiiiiiice

>>28287878
Propaganda, Russia just need shit to keep talking about. It's not that they can't do it, it's just everyone can do it by turning on their microwave to some extent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaC5QAtBlrI

The United States does it better anyways.

>Russian handing over all of their radar profiles to NATO without firing a single missile.
>Literally Christmas for NATO ELINT

Jamming does work but the moron media is acting like this shuts down all of NATO's electronics. Counter EW weapons are specifically designed to target jamming stations. Nobody is using them because we're not at war with Russia. We have no political/legal justification for bombing their equipment. What Russia did was politically cockblock us.

>this fantasy of hurr USA vs Russia when all putin wants to be is a US ally

>>28290963
>Putin wants to be a US ally
Full retarded.jpg

>>28291091
It's just the facts

>>28291107
Sorry bud, Obama is not the one trying to revive his dead empire.

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>>28288443

>>28291128
What do you think the US has been doing the last fucking 100 years except trying to establish an empire?
Why do you think russia was fooling around in ukraine in the first place?

>>28291161
But Vatnik you told us Russia wasn't in Ukraine. It was all Nazis and CIA stooges.

>>28291185
So US can organize coups all throughout the mideast, europe, former USSR
and it's fucking grand

But god forbid Putin annex a 100% russian region that voted to rejoin russia, huh?

>>28291222
>100% russian
Stop suckling putin's moobs

>>28291222
This is a prime example of an argument that's self defeating.

>the US engages in activity that I consider unethical
>why can't Russia

Because it's still unethical, and the goal of rules is to reduce the net amount of unethical things going on.

Everything you need to negate the argument is right there, in the argument.

>>28291270
In what way has russia acted unethically?

>>28291222
>It's alright when we do it

>That voted

>100% Russian

RIGHT NOW, in this moment, as we speak, this very second of the minute of the hour, Putin is engaging in open conquest. There is not even a handful of nations that have done this in the past 3 decades.

You know they themselves think they are in the wrong when they have done everything possible to cover it up.

BUT this is just them being belligerent, in general. We have yet to even touch upon how "friendly" they have been towards NATO and US. How many times NATO has extended to an olive branch only to be spat on the face.

>>28291304
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances

BTW you remember when your state propaganda was claiming that Ukraine was banning Russian language from being spoken, well that didn't quite happen. But someone did ban Ukrainian from being spoken.

>>28291362
NATO LITERALLY DID A COUP IN UKRAINE to install a puppet government.
How is that respecting ukraines independence or sovereignty?
Dumbass. Obviously the treaty is off when NATO doesn't respect it.

> Putin is engaging in open conquest.
No they aren't, they are supporting russian seperatists in a neighboring country.

>We have yet to even touch upon how "friendly" they have been towards NATO and US. How many times NATO has extended to an olive branch only to be spat on the face.

Is this a joke?

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>>28288443

>>28291449
>NATO LITERALLY DID A COUP IN UKRAINE
Proofs

>>28291541
Thats what the euromaiden was
Or the arab spring

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>>28291362
>NATO LITERALLY DID A COUP IN UKRAINE to install a puppet government.
You whole nation is a so fucking twisted.

Your nation is a cancer, and we are not going to be the ones that kill it. It will kill itself, with your declining birthrates and the joke of a government you call a democracy. But I am sure glad we are helping.

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/official_texts_25468.htm
http://www.bits.de/NRANEU/relations.htm

https://en.wikipedia.or
/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia
http://www.vox.com/2014/9/5/6110037/estonia-russia-officer-kidnapped
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings

>>28287878

I'm sure it works as well as all russian electronics.

>>28291594
>point out that Russian forces are fighting a war of conquest
>PROOFS YOU HOHOL PROXY
>Russians make claim about a revolution having been orchestrated by their enemies
>what burden of proof lol

>>28291594
Cool proofs

>>28288077
Multiple RC-135's and AWACS will be giant target for S400/300 and long-range Mig-31BMs. To kill them you need different means which will be target for different Russian weapon. In the end you will need a giant fucking joint operation. That kind which can not be done without month of preparation. Russians will not allow you to do this. NATO will not allow Russians to prepare their operation. And that's how world peace works.

>>28291629
ukraine wouldn't last a fucking minute if russia was actually fighting a "war of conquest"

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957
US deciding which puppet to install.

>>28291595
>your declining birthrates
As opposed to the USA thats below 50% white, today?

>>28291865
lol k.

>>28291842
They even shot down a plane, to blame on Putin

Meanwhile funding & arming al qaeda to remove Assad

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OH LOOK. It's another daily SLAV vs BURGER thread, in which both sides try to figure out who is the bigger pile of shit.

Here, cool gif for you niggers.

>>28291930
> if russia was actually fighting a "war of conquest"
Russia is a fighting a war of conquest, to the degree that NATO won't decide to kick your teeth in.

>http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957
Wow a diplomatic conversation were the US criticizes the EU for doing nothing, and talks about wanting moderate democrat to win election, because economic experience. As oppose to the guy who is just as openly pro NATO/EU.

Wow you got us, we admit it we rigged it all.

>As opposed to the USA thats below 50% white, today?
The whole country is an actual manifestation of /pol/.

>>28292165
Is that you HUE?

>>28287878
Fuck of putinbot faggot.

>>28292167
putin da bad guy because the media tells me so!
Saddam and gaddafi had to go! because the media told me so!
Assad is bad bad bad, the media & politicians tell me so!

>>28287878
Russia exists at the US' whim. The minute anything actually happens that hurts the US, their jammers disappear. Some kurds will magically find themselves with some bombs and a map, a cruise missile will go "off course", a regrettable mistake will happen and some Russians will get killed.

This will happen early in 2017 when Trump has US troops just coming into Syria. Cue NATO standoff and the first taste of WW3.

Anyone think the nuclear arty will be back?

>>28292469
Assad is bad, it's just that he's just the best of the worst over there.

>>28292469

Those were all tinpot, terror-sponsoring cretins though. Assad deals oil with ISIS almost as much as Turkey. He was responsible for the surge. The US does a far better job at sponsoring terror itself while still using it to their advantage.

>>28292469
putin and iran the bad guys because they killed over 2,000 americans in iraq, destroyed the iraq reconstruction, and took the whole country over

if the US falls because of the 'innocent' shenanigans of putin, I hope you know that I'm going to eat you and your dirty slav race fucks here in the US first.

>>28292608
It's like Saddam.
The assholes in the middle east need a shitty dictator over them to keep them from going full tribal war on each other.
When you take one of them out you see the imaginary country lines on the maps the British drew disappear.

>>28293370
>the maps the British drew disappear

which is why you need to create a new sunni state (not ISIS)

you currently got a bunch of sunni's getting their ass handed to them by the shi'ites with russian support

it's not a wonder why you see the extremism pop up; it's the only outlet they got

>>28288077
>multiple RC-135's and AWACS jamming the living fuck out of russian units. the idea that an Mi-8 is going to be the key to jamming american C4ISTAR is retarded.
wow, recon ELINT and AWAC aircraft used as jammers are you fcking retarded or what? those things hang too back far from the battlespace anyway to make use of their mad power output.
>Russia is trying to enter the NetWar doctrine, while america has been at it for 30+ years
Russia(Soviet Union) pioneered Netcentric warfare. they just didnt call it by fancy powerpoint names and such.

why do we have to keep buying WEAPONS, please stop, lets save this money we put into research to build schools, hospitals and live in a better world. do we really need all of this when half of the world is allied to us and we have 50 million militias armed with self defense guns at home?? i mean come on, why don't we just peace russia and mind our own business.

>>28293415
you got a great message

be sure to preach it in the east

>>28287878
From the thumbnail, I could only read "RUSSIA JAMMING" and saw the lasers coming from the helicopter and imagined a Russian version of the helicopter attack from apocalypse now, featuring isis as the gooks, the Russians playing bolska bass kolbasser and only firing tracers/laser guided munitions

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>>28292165
Leaving the high-and-mighty, yet insignifigant Europeans to shitpost on the sidelines.

>>28289583
>the only research is helping US assets log all of their observed emission modes
>>28290833
not really that significant. there is for practice and small conflicts library of emissions then there is real war one. Otherwise there would've been panic considering the huge amount of opportunities other nations had in listening to NATO emissions over the course of many a conflict.
>>28288125
>So it blocks comms.
>Weird, it's almost like NATO has been doing this retarded shit inadvertantly for years.
broadband jamming is literally the oldest trick in the EW book. the problem in Ukraine was that the not Russians were actively listening and subverting radio transmissions, sending false commands and infos.

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>>28288443
Noice

>>28291930
>Russians still think they're white and not the most degenerate country in Eurasia

>>28292469
you come to /k/, one of the most libertarian boards on 4chan and expect us to suck the cocks of some corrupt dictators?
are you crazy? get back to /pol/ you boot licking faggot

>>28295482
what is the difference between a libertarian and a liberal?

>>28295837

Different types of retardation.

>>28296252
as in? i'm really clueless what these words mean nowadays. seems to me a lot of times left and right turned around and around and around no idea what's up and down and what's behind these words anymore.
in my country for example the political right is a statist totalitarian think that uses slogans and ideas from the "communism" to get elected and to appeal to the working class and the poor that they abuse most.

>>28287878
>The Next News Network
Should have stopped there, but I'll proceed

>October 23
>600 kilometer sphere
>Jamming EVERYTHIIIIING
>Superior Russian technology jams radar, satellite communication, guidance systems, satellite imagery
>It can even jam BRAINWAVES to make criminal FASCISTA pigs NATO pilots stop thinking and killing INNOCENT civilians
>NATO can't even take an offensive action in the region

NATO has been operating in Syria normally all this time.
There is your answer.

>Obama being spanked by POUUUUTIN
>Every share is a nail in the coffin for mainstream media
>IT CAN EVEN JAM SATELLITE IMAGERY

Are you serious? This is what slavs/slav lovers actually believe, check out the comment section.