How hard is to (legally) get firearms in your commie country, /k/omrads?
>>28272616
>that spic has a Draco pistol
Thanks Mr. Holder
>>28272616
Austria: go to the store
say you want that one
pick it up 3 days later
>>28272759
Can I buy an AUG with the fun switch there?
>>28272770
you can buy an AUG
you can buy a funswitch
but they won't fit together
Canada
>Do test
>Pass
>Wait a few months
>Get license
>Go to store
>For average rifles and shotguns: buy gun
>Leave
>For handguns, AR15s, and a couple short rifles and shotguns
>Pay for gun
>Wait a day while the RCMP transfers ownership because HURR DURR REGISTRY FOR SCURRY GUNS
>Transfer is approved
>Print off sheet saying so
>Bring it to store
>Pick up gun
>Leave
>>28272616
Nigga got 360quick scoped.
>Guy at work wants to sell his firearm
>Give him money for it
>Guns mine now
>>28272616
They hand them out once you graduate highschool here.
Source: I'm a Oklahoman.
>>28272616
Czech republic & Slovakia.
If you have a firearms license (shall issue even to most foreigners), you can get rifles or handguns same day.
You can carry handguns concealed. Only FMJ tho :/
What type of guns?
>bolt actions and break actions
Basically go to the gun shop, show your ID and background check. Buy all these guns you want and take them home.
>semi autos, pistols, lever actions and pump actions
Fill out a shall issue permit to buy these guns, include background check and ID. Buy the guns you want and take them home.
>>28272616
Australia
>Go to cop shop
>Fill out paperwork
>Pay fee
>Wait a few months for the paperwork to be processed
>Receive your "permission to train" papers
>Do firearms safety course
>Take certificate from course and paperwork to police station
>Fill out more forms
>Wait some more
>Receive your paper licence
>Take it to a government fees and services place (basically the car rego place), pay licence fee, get photo taken.
>Go buy firearm
>Wait 28 days for your permit to acquire
>Get permit in mail
>Pick up gun
>Immediately take it to the cop shop to get registered
Every man is require to keep rifle and one handgun in home. Women may buy if have the money. CC allow every where. No gun/length/mag restriction. My Father have working SPG-9 and NSV. Some price example: AK-47 for 150US$/AKM for 350US$/M16A2 for 1.600US$/M16A4 and M4A1 for 3,000US$
>>28272819
Jesus christ
>>28272835
what about the fal?
>>28272796
Is that legal in US?
>>28272850
That Is issue to me. I found one buy for 900$.
>>28272810
How liberal are they with the most restricted stuff?
>>28272835
Where is this?
>>28272867
Depends on the Canton you live in.
In mine it's easy to get them.
The ones where they speak French are extremely anti-gun.
>>28272866
How in the FUCK is this off topic?
>>28272865
neat what about handgun prices
oh and just wondering how much is the price of a motorcycle going for there?
Buy from an ex-military fag.
he will sell you his stolen sidearm and ammo.
>>28272798
>only fmj
That makes no sense
>>28272866
Faggot
>>28272819
All that shit even for a fucking bolt gun?
>>28272616
While people are trying hard as they can to turn the United States into a commie country we still have the best gun rights in the world.
>>28272868
Herêmî Kurdistan(Iraqi Kurdistan).
>>28272879
Makarov 50$/TT-33 25$/CZ-75 200$/CZ.99 250$/SIG P226 1.000$ Browning GP-35 375$/Glock 300-600$/Beretta 92 $400/Beretta M1951 250$/HS2000 400$/Smith & Wesson M&P 600$/M1911 500$.
>>28272888
Because war convention.
>>28272854
only in states that have freedom
>>28272912
>Makarov 50$
>CZ-75 200$
>>28272912
alright ty oh just one more question what the average paygrade of enlisted kurds?
>>28272835
>>28272912
How much does an SVD run typically?
>>28272912
I know you're in a war torn region, but your slavshit prices are making me jealous.
>>28272924
OR-1 454$/month
OR-2 519$/month
OR-3 687$/month
OR-4A 763$/month
OR-4B 985$/month
OR-5 1.752$/month
OR-6 2.021$/month(my rank)
OR-7 2.959$/month
OR-8 3.254$/month
OR-8A(Special Forces) 4.122$/month
OR-8B(Anti-Terror Force) 5.225$/month
>>28272935
New? 800$ Old?150$-400$ depend on condition.
Switzerland:
>go to local gun shop
>buy literally anything they have in stock, from a .22 pistol to a fucking 40mm grenade launcher
>have fun
>>28272975
Source:
>my ass
>>28272967
Holy shit, is that really in USD? That's not bad at all mang.
Brazil
How to buy a legal gun:
>you need to be 25 years old
>go to the Federal Police and tell them you want a gun
>background check in your whole life
>psychological test
>gun proficiency classes and gun proficiency test
>after all that, the police can deny your permit just because
>if you get the gun permit, you are allowed to pay R$4000 for a shit firearms
>in 3 years you need to do the whole thing again, btw the police can deny it just because, forcing you to sell your weapon
How to buy an illegal gun:
>pay R$700 for a 9mm and get a line of cocaine for free
>>28273019
Yes. Easier to use USD. 2.021$ equal 2.235.965,75 Dinar.
>>28272912
Sorry but I have to ask? How much is my dream gun: HK91?
Can you own a fun switch?
>>28272967
do they accept foreign volunteers? just curious
>>28273022
>700 for a 9mm
That sounds depressing as fuck.
>>28272781
>REGISTRY FOR SCURRY GUNS
We don't have a registry.
>>28273048
G3 is 900$. All rifles are select fire beside those that are not(bolt/lever action/so on).
>>28273050
If you have ex MIL and combat experience - yes, no question. Other wise - no. YPG will take you.
>>28272907
Limited to a 5 round magazine... Yes.
>>28272967
Bet that USD has a lot purchasing power over there? How much does food cost, just to get an idea of the overall price index.
>>28273062
oh alright thank you though
>>28273067
I spend 180$ to eat for three month.
>>28273051
It's cheaper than R$3000 for a legal taurus pistol .380.
This is not a joke. The taxes over firearms are around 70% (it's 30%~50% over normal things like food, gasoline, toilet paper etc).
Ohio
Go to store
Say you want a gun
They call a phone number to make sure you have a clean record.
Pay
Leave with gun in under 5 minutes.
Florida is same but only if you have a conceal carry permit.
>>28272888
> sense.
You keep using this word. Yep, only untrained police can use hollow points.
Civilians with hollow points would make people explode or something... That's how local politicians think.
>>28272616
Ausfailia
>How hard is it
Depends on state, some are shit, some are extra shit (like this poor fucker >>28272819 )
Where I live it's:
>Go buy permit to hunt on Govt. Land (Like ~$15)
>Buy a gun safe and bolt it to the wall and floor if it weighs less than 150kg
>Take your hunting permit to the police station, grab a firearms licence application and fill it out
>Sit a "firearms safety course" which is a 10 question multiple choice test that you have to get 100% in.
>Pass the test and hand in your 2 forms
>Licence comes in the mail a week later
That's for the licence, you need that to buy guns and ammo, which require a separate process too.
To buy guns:
>Go to police station and pick up a form called a PTA
>Write down what gun you want and why you want it
>Give it to the cops
>They print a permit off
>Take this permit to the gun shop
>Show permit & Licence
>Pay for gun
>Leave with gun
The first gun you ever buy has a 28 day wait but after that they get approved instantly so there's no waiting around.
To buy ammo:
>show licence
>Buy ammo
>>28273065
I don't think anywhere in Australia is restricted to 5 round bolt guns. Everywhere is either 10, 15 or unlimited.
>>28272810
>SIG 550's are illegal in Canada because the RCMP decided they needed to be.
Im still mad.
Be reservist
Go to station and say you want this gun because of this reason and you will get this safe for it
Get gun
>>28272912
>CZ-75 only $200
Good god thats cheap
>>28272616
Netherlands
>all guns illegal at all times but you can get a special leave if:
>get membership of shooting sport association
>attend range at least 18 times in the last 12 months at time of application
>association director declares that you are safe to own a gun
>intelligence services do thorough background check
>only guns permissable are those used in sport shooting, hunting and collecting (not sure what exactly falls into these categories but assault rifles are a big no).
>ammo is heavily restricted and need a seperate permit
>keeping gun at home requires a gun vault that cannot realistically be lifted by 2 thieves or is secured into the building itself
>you must submit to any and all (unannounced) checks by police. They come inside and go straight for your weapons vault where they check if all owned guns are present and stored properly. If checked they leave, if not you are under arrest until the whereabouts of your weapons have been determined.
>denying entry can be done but only in very exceptional circumstances and usually after you have denied them once they show up more often and don't agree to denial a second time.
>improperly storing your guns results in immediately revoking your license to own the gun at home meaning you have to keep it at the gun club vaults or sell it off. Police will confiscate the weapon immediately.
It's really hard to get and own a legal gun here.
>>28273052
He's talking about the restricted ones, timmy.
>>28272616
arizona
>go to store
>ask for gun
>show id
>pay
>>28272616
Russia.
1) Go to medical expertise (cops need confirmation, that you are not a drug addict or an idiot)
2) Go to cops, fill a lot of papers.
3) Go to training course (first timers only)
4) Go to cops again and receive a permit.
5) Go to gun store and buy your weapon.
6) Go to cops to register your gun.
You can own smoothbore hunter`s weapon from the start. After 5 years of gun ownership, you can buy rifled weapons. Handguns and full-auto are illegal (which is dumb, when I can absolutely legally own a sniper rifle).
>>28273391
Would an unrifled,keyholing AK fit in the description?
>>28273399
"Unrifled AK" is called "Saiga", /komrade. Yes, that`s legal. And afrer 5 years, you can buy yourself completely legal and not castrated SVD, or something along the lines.
>>28272888
They need someone to buy all that shitty surplus
>>28273391
How all the russians on youtube got their tokarevs, makarovs, PPShs, PPDs, AKs and stuff?
>>28272616
>have money
>don't be a felon
>>28272616
michigan
>go to gun store
>choose gun
>fill out gun transfer paperwork (usually 1 page, front and back, your name, ethnicity, age, etc.)
>gun merchant calls background check people on phone (takes about 10 minutes)
>approved or delayed, usually approved but i have had it delayed 1 time and had to wait 3 days for approval
>pay for gun
>take gun and go home
how is it like in other states /k/?
UK
>make application of intent to view firearms online with local constable
>two hour interview and psych exam
>if i pass then my internet gets unlocked to look at gunshops
>find the gun i want
>submit 10,000 word dissertation on why my weapon of choice is evil and oppressive and has to be restricted
>if the Home Office approves my dissertation i can then fill out my license application
>apply for license
>four hour interview with police where they take a DNA sample that will match up with the DNA i have to imprint on every round i buy
>police come over to my house where i show them my gun safe, naturally i give them a copynof my door and safe keys
>drive them to my parent's house to do the same with my ammo safe
>buy my gun
>promise on the Queen's life never to actually shoot it
>>28272616
Germany
>join shooting club
>shoot for a year with their guns (yeah, it sucks)
>apply for WBK (permit)
>receive WBK after background check
>buy gun safe that meets the legal requirements
>buy what you want (except SBR's)
>done
alternative:
>take courses for a hunters license
>pass all the exams and tests
>apply for WBK
>receive WBK after background check
>buy gun safe
>buy whatever you want, including SBR's
Also full-fun switch guns are illegal for civilians, other than that pretty much anything goes, but it's ridiculously expensive.
[iirc the gun depicted belongs to a german hunter who used to post here occasionally]
>>28272773
>>28272782
Nah mah man, dat bitch got 360 no-scoped
>>28273414
1) government issue weapon. Basicly, standard sidearm for MVD, etc. (speaking about Makarov and TT, thou TT is somewhat rare)
2) Collection and presented weapon. Can keep, illegal to use.
3) Replicas or non-lethal look-alikes.
4) Straight illegal, from black diggers, criminals, etc.
Texas
>go to store
>ask for gun
>fill out 4473
>store calls ATF
>Surprise, I'm not a felon
>I give store money
>store gives me gun
>freedom intensifies
Alternatively
>want to buy gun
>friend wants to sell gun
>give friend cash
>friend gives me gun
>>28273118
Show them how it works then. First hand....
>>28272819
>taking the funz out of gunz
ffs man!
>>28272797
>>28273480
>>>/facebook/
>>28273449
>>28273452
Damn. Forgot to mention, that in Russia, you also need to buy a gun safe and show it to a visiting police oficer. There were no issues on this matter, so I just forgot.
>>28272759
Only C licence weapons like repeater rifles and break-shotguns. Fun fact pump action shotguns are not allowed in Austria, while semi-automatic shotguns are.
>>28273488
Woo wee! I'm not beein eedjie enough for 4chan again.
>>28273444
Yo, 269 here. Used to live in FL.
>pay for gun
>background check
>leave with gun, unless it's a handgun
>three day waiting period on those
>>28273514
I will never understand the idea that if it's a rifle, you can walk out, but if you're trying to get a legit CC to protect yourself, well fuck you for three days. I mean, if someone doesn't already own a CC already, they probably have a reason for trying to get a hold of one then and there. Fuck, that shit annoys me to no end.
>>28273391
>After 5 years of gun ownership, you can buy rifled weapons.
I heard all you need to do is to give vodka or money to the police and they don't care about the 5 year rule. After all you are living in Russia, don't lie you know it's true.
>>28273584
Probably will work somwhere closer to Japan&China. There are A LOT of hunters there and laws about rifled weapons are lax. Won`t work on European part of the country.
>>28272797
As a fellow Oklahoman who got a marlin 336w as soon as I graduated, I can confirm.
>>28273541
Concealable guns are popular for murders I think. If I don't have a gun and suddenly decide a fucker needs to die I would not use a rifle.
>>28273048
http://www.armslist.com/posts/4447858/columbia-south-carolina-rifles-for-sale-trade--ptr-91--308-semi-auto-battle-rifle
>>28273658
If I suddenly decide someone needs to die, I'm not going to use a gun I just fucking bought. If that was the case, three days is going to change about as much as the idea of using a rifle instead of a handgun. Three day wait periods do nothing but keep guns out of the hands of people who feel they need them at that time.
>>28273444
>michigan
>get cpl (concealed pistol license, 200$ not a felon)
>buy hangun, already approved b/c cpl
>CC in 40 states
>>28272854
Absolutely legal in all but the cuckest of states.
>>28272616
>>28272616
WHY did Europe become a nesting place for cowardly wusses? A hundred years ago, the concept of "gun law" was completely foreign in all of Europe. Neither firerms purchases nor carrying required any permits or other forms of contact with the authorities.
I'm thinking of earlier times...
>>28272616
Commiefornia is shot, however I'm legally carrying my pistol right now.
The pistol list is the worst
>>28274085
Because Germany simultaneously becoming one of the biggest european powers and the embodiment of white guilt.
>>28272797
I don't see Oklahomabros here a lot.
>>28274109
>Because Germany simultaneously becoming one of the biggest european powers and the embodiment of white guilt.
The British were the supreme World Power at that time, and yet they also shit the bed with firearms legislation during the 1920s.
>>28272810
Why does this picture say "Free" and yet they list a price on them? Something's fishy.
>>28274085
>>28274127
between the two world wars, a lot of governments were afraid of communist rebellions so they started to restrict gun ownership
Switzerland:
>print formular
>cross "im not an autist"
>send it to police
>wait 2 weeks
>get permission
>buy up to 3 guns at once (Pistols/shotguns/rifles)
>no fun switch though
>repeat until you are better armed then the whole swiss military
>profit?
>>28274146
>between the two world wars, a lot of governments were afraid of communist rebellions so they started to restrict gun ownership
Ironically, this legislation led to exactly what statesmen of those days atleast publicly claimed to dread: a staggering weakening of the traditionally western virtue of liberty.
>>28273062
>All rifles are select fire beside those that are not
>>28273051
>700 Brazilian Real equals $173 usd
That's actually a hell of a price
Kansas
From gun shop
>background check to make sure youre not a felon
>pay for gun
>leave with gun
Private sale
>give guy money
>git gud
>>28272909
This is the fucking stupidest thing I have ever read.
Read about him laws in Iraq and Afghanistan
Illinois
>apply for FOID card
>pay the "online convenience fee"
>btw you can only apply online
>wait 6 FUCKING MONTHS
>receive FOID and now youre allowed to touch/buy
>1 day waiting period for long guns
>3 days for handguns
>everywhere except chicago is pretty lax on 'salt weapons
It's piss easy in Slovenia.
You can only carry if you prove that your life is in danger though. But I do prefer this than easy CC/OC laws.
>ireland
>fucking impossible
The IRA ruined everything and no one is allowed pistols really. If you're a farmer or a hunter you're allowed a shotgun or hunting rifle. Don't ever say the words "self defence".You need a safe, an alarm, membership to the firearm association and police vetting. If you live in the city just give up.
Alternatively dig around the border for a bit and pickup some mortars and assault rifles for free
>>28272835
Hello I am in Erbil
>>28272810
But not if you are kebab
>>28274197
except that the minimun wage is like 600r$/month
>>28274155
Fun switch is hard to get, but it's possible
>>28272877
True they're anti-gun but the law still allows you to own full auto gun and such
>Source : me, living in Geneva with a FA MG42 and SIG 553
>>28274651
Êware baş. I am from Şeqlawe.
>>28272810
>I will never own a SIG550
>>28273449
All memes aside, for people that might actually want to know how to purchase a firearm in the UK. Keep in mind that this is only for a shotgun as I haven't bothered with a FAC.
>find referee (not related, not a police officer, not involved in sale of firearms) willing to vouch for your good character, must have known you for at least two years
>fill out application form
>describe criminal record, medical history, get referee to countersign
>detail where and how firearm/ammunition will be stored
>pay £80 (first time, renewal/alteration costs £40 afterwards)
>assuming your application has been accepted, a police officer visits your home and inspects safety/storage arrangements
>when satisfied with storage and applicant's reasoning for owning a firearm, he reports to his superior and your certificate is granted
>go to gun shop with certificate
>fingerfuck shotguns until you find one with engraving that you like because they're all mechanically identical and capped at 2+1 capacity for automatics
>spend entirely too much on a franchi o/u and five hundred no. 6 pigeon shells
>dealer fills out your certificate with full information of the gat you're buying, time, place, ammo purchase, etc.
>drive home, store shotgun in safe A, shells in safe B
>shoot once a year and never hit anything
>renew certificate every five years
>>28274973
And here's the application form, complete with a "tell us you're a white man so we know where to look when we restrict your rights even further" questionnaire.
http://basc.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2014/10/Firearmshotgunform.pdf
>>28273444
Way easier with a CPL my friendo
>>28272616
Fin:
>do hunting course
>buy weapons for hunting (no pistols, but everything else is theoretically a-ok as long as it's powerful enough)
Or
>shoot at a range for a while (6 months usually does it)
>buy range toys (no limitations, but handguns require a mandated 2 year wait time - thanks auvinen & saari)
Easiest way to get guaranteed semiauto is to do IPSC or reservist shooting sport.
>>28275220
Well I forgot to mention that you'll need to send an application to the local PD which will then send you an invitation to an interview. Talk about the weather for a bit and you'll get your permit if the application was ok.
>>28273452
Civillians can get full-retard guns, if they're collectors or certified experts (like for the police) and can get an exemption by the BKA (german federal police) in some cases. But there are only very few that have it.
Florida, United States
>Go to gun shop/pawn shop/Walmart/sporting goods store/surplus store, ANYWHERE
>See gun
>"I want that one"
>Form 4473 (link: https://www.atf.gov/file/61446/download)
>fork over cash
>get gun
>leave
If someone gifts you a gun:
>receive gun
>keep
And you can get pretty much anything easily as long as it isn't FA. NFA is pretty easy to do, given you have some time and the $200 tax.
>>28273849
tfw Washington used to be up there. Now we're a joke.
>>28272641
That's a Brazilian, not a Mexican.
>>28273062
Damn, what. Are the requirements for the YPG? I want to have a real taste of combat in my life and I won't get that in the US army.
any use for a 19 year old burger who speaks some Russian
>>28275287
YPG will train and equip you. You will only get a M16A2(if lucky) or AK-47/AKM. Be in shape/learn to speak some Kurmancî or Soranî Kurdish and learn to read Hawar alphabet and Soranî alphabet/follow all command and do not be burden. You can try listening to RUAF and translating back into Kurmancî/Soranî. I can help with Soranî and some Kurmancî. There is some people on /k/ with information on how to join YPG. Look out for them.
>>28275220
>auvinen and saari
Yea, just for those guys' sake i hope that hell exists and that they get brutally ass raped by satan's niggerdick several times a day for all eternity.
>>28272819
>"permission to train"
HahahahahahahahagsgsgsgshahaHahHahahahahagafahqgsfsfsgahagqgG
Merica strong!!!
>>28273494
Austrian has several AR's.
>>28275355
Are there standard tours of duty and would joining put me at odds with the US govt?
also, how much kurdish will I need to know?
>>28272797
Got a. 38 when I turned 18. Was already in college.
>>28272798
Can you into Lehigh defense extreme defenders in Czech?
>>28272854
Most states allow it (even IL). Think some just need a form of paperwork that you and the person you have it to acknowledge the transfer. It's what I did when I bought my dad a pistol for cc on his birthday when IL finally allowed ccw
>>28273391
Forgot about safe.
One time per year local cop came to see how you keepeng yor guns.
Must have safe locker.
>>28272909
In Paraguay, tourists can buy and sell guns. Even if they are only staying for a day.
>>28272810
wait can swiss own funswitch guns then?
>>28272616
was this guy a sicarii?
>>28273022
>Free cocaine...........
>>28272854
Yes
>>28275434
>private sales
>need paperwork
These are mutually exclusive. Hell, I don't even know the name of the guy who sold me my M44. I gave him $120 and I got the rifle.
>>28275397
You will not get in trouble as long you follow all orders. YPG knows how to not interfere with KRG/Russian/American interest in Rojavayê. A conversation full at least. I recommend learning to speak five paragraph worth of Kurdish at first to Americans and Europeans joining the Pêşmerge.
Some basic phrases in Soranî:
Greetings - Selamkirdin
Morning greeting - Beyanî baş.
Afternoon greeting - Roj baş,
Evening greeting - Êware baş.
Formal Hello - Selam or Slaw.
Informal Hello - Helaw or Slaw. Slaw(sound like "slow" kind of) is both formal/informal.
Welcome - Bi xêr bî.
How are you? - Çonî/Çonît?
Long time no see - Demêke tum nebînîwe.
What is your name? - Nawî tu çiye/Nawit çiye?
My name is, John. - Nawim, Johna. (Add -a at end of name). Nawim, Johh Doeya (Add -ya on last name. Drop - a).
Where are you from? - Xelkî kam deverî?
Pleased to meet you - Xoşhalim bi nasînit.
Good night - Şaw Xoş/ Şaw baş.
>>28275531
Farewell - Xuahafîzîkirdin.
Goodbye - Xuahafîz.
Goodbye Singular - Xuat legel.
Goodbye Plural - Xuatan legel.
Bye(extremely informal) - Baî.
>>28273444
Texas
>walk outside
>pick mags off magazine tree
>only the loaded ones! the unloaded aren't ripe yet.
>walk to end of driveway
>pick up daily random gun delivery dropped off by gun boy on his gun route
>go to LGS
>look at guns, see one I want
>full auto of course
>ask clerk to hand it to me
>write name on napkin
>leave gun store with new gun
>see some kids playing a claw game
>trying to grab a 1911
>the claw drops it
>"shucks, that was my last quarter"
>"here kid" give him a quarter
>"thanks mister!"
>kid tries again and gets his gun from the claw machine
>kids run off to school
>they had to hurry or they would be late
>had to do some grocery shopping
>see a good deal on a AR15s
>right next to the organic carrots
>buy two get one free
>may as well get christmas shopping for the nieces and nephews done
>grab 3 ARs
>all in blister packaging, that will be a pain to get off, better get some scissors.
Such is life in Texas.
>>28275531
Neat. I guess I'll finish up my engineering degree and study kurdish in my free time.
Tho you probably won't need people in two years
>>28273658
If I suddenly decide a fucker needs to die, I'm going to ambush said fucker when he/she/it is alone and I'm going to use a sawed off break open shotgun/lupara, pocket the shells, and ditch the gun l8tr.
A three day waiting period on hand funs is no detriment when I would be using an illegally modified long gun to commit any illegal killing I might wind up doing, anyway.
As an aside, a friend walked into Bucks in Daytona Beach and asked about buying a hand gun. When he learned about the law, he cracked the joke,
>but I'm angry now!
The store owner defended the three day waiting period. To be completely clear, the owner of Bucks in Daytona Beach is a cuck who is willing to sell gun rights down the river for the state.
>>28275604
YPG may. I think Syria will be like Lebanon Civil War. It lasted 15 years 6 month plus Syrian occupation till 2005.
Belgium: moderately hard compared to US, but still easy if you are willing to spend $$ and have no criminal records
>>28274124
You and me on the same /k/? I see okies on here all the time.
>>28275623
Dang. If it still is going on I'm sure I could take a gap year or two
>>28275656
It probably will. I am moving back to US in two years when my Pêşmerge contract ends. My fiancée is Swede/American. I have already sent our daughter to the US with her.
>>28275259
Yeah I know, I just felt that that's hardly worth mentioning.
>>28275592
>>28275709
Say, what exactly happens if people find out that you're going to join the YPG? The website says to have an excuse as to why you're going to that region
>>28275803
Probably surveillance or the Turks arrest you. Just say you are on a business trip and come up with something believable.
>>28275755
Yeah, but I just had to mention, seeing as I still have a boner from that guys arsenal pictures.
He has the absolute best man cave ever.
Extra building in his yard which 80% under the earth with only small bulletproof windows and can only be entered by a tunnel from his house through a big ass steel door (dude owned a construction company).
Walls lined with around ~300 guns, several are FA (has an MG42 of course).
Another room filled with reloading equipment and one cartridge of every caliber he could find lining the walls (several thousand so far).
>>28275826
What did you bring with you to avoid suspicion? What gear can I buy once I'm in country?
>>28273210
At least we don't need a permit for air guns.
>>28275897
Clothes/travel or tourism pamphlets/passport/spare passport and ID's/return ticket. You will be issued some BDUs/a chest rig with magazine/an AK-47/AKM/ or M16A2. Armour could be bought. A plate carrier with SAPI plate goes for around 900$ - 1.200$. An OTV or IOTV with ESAPI/ESBI for ~3.600$ - ~4.200$. PASGT helmet for ~350$. My LBT-6940-RS with ESAPI/ESBI was 1.700$ from a Pêşmerge depot and Spec Ops Delta-III another 1.300$.
>>28275985
USD? Damn, that's quite an investment (tho definately worthwile)
no chance I could mail my gear from home, is there?
>>28274085
Germany got tougher gun laws because they were scared of communist terrorists during the 70s. Not even Hitler made it more difficult for the average German to buy a gun (unless you were a jew).
>>28276048
Yes, USD. Does ITAR apply to your country?
>>28276112
What is ITAR and I'm in the US so probably
>>28276215
https://gov-relations.com/itar/
ACOG is ITAR controlled for example unless for MIL/LE purpose.
>>28276227
>implying I have an acog
what about a plate carrier and plates and helmet? Probably restricted
>>28275592 I see your life and raise you mine.
>be born with .22 revolver in hand
>fed from the barrel of mom's nugget
>eventually move up to deagle brand deagle. only the best for little anon
>taught gun ownership at age 5
>kill first nigger at age 7
>now working adult
>job is at Nigs, Neckbeards, and Fags working to protect muh amendment
>shoot grizzly in face too if they become a problem
>come home
>see thread
>kek heartidly and shoot the keyboard with my glock to write shitpost
>shoot post
Damn it feels good to be Alaskan.
>>28272797
Ma nigha
Fellow pkie here
Driggs Idaho
>walk into general store several mountain men laughing around a hearth
>ask for a gun
>"sure friend!" Pulls out old musket
>ask for something more modern
>pulls out full auto AKM
>how much?
>"sit and trade stories with us for a while that's all"
>leave 8 hours later with beaver pelts spices a crate of ammo and my new gun
>ski home
>>28276288
These does not seem to be ITAR controlled.
http://www.ops-core.com/FAST_Ballistic_High_Cut_XP_H_P100C6.cfm
http://lbtinc.com/vest-h-gear-carriers/plate-carriers/modular-plate-carrier-ltca.html
To all the oklahomans lurking.
I jave a question.
Moved brom bong 7 years ago.
Lives in the boons the whole time
Yet as soon as i move to tulsa and walk into a walmart to lookie for my next shotgun im told that tulsa stores are not allowed to sell guns in there stores
WTF oklahoma i thought you was cool
Had to settle for some shitty lgs
>>28275454
Never seen him since the first time.
Somebody save these out, these infos are golden
-Also Hungarian levels of acquiring a gun
Pt.1: The hunting license
>optimal: go to a school, which has hunting exam preparations (350 USD)
>take exam (35 dollar)
>take shooting exam, with given shotgun and rifle (around 175 dollar if you want practicing before)
>If you passed, it's time to buy your gun safe (lots of dollarydoos)
>acquire gun, then buy gun, which can be a max 3 shot shotgun, 3 shot semi anything, and a not limited bolt-action. If you start working as a hunter, you can acquire a handgun too, if you are lucky.
(continued)
>>28276673
> $3k
yeah, I'll just see if I can find a splav rig and some plates once I get there
>>28276736
Sorry, missed out psychological exam, which needs also to be paid (35 dollars), and if you are not lucky, or the examiner doesn't like you, he will make yours to be remade every year.
My friend took the exam, then the psychological test told him that he is not dominant enough (kek). The next year he went, he got his lifelong paper, because the examiner was lazy.
>>28275475
you can you just need the permit.
Depending on where you live it's either easy or next to impossible.
Rule of thumb: if you don't live in the french speaking part and outside of the urban centers you chances stand good to get it approved. After the first approval other purchases are a piece of cake.
It's just funswitch makes no sense in switzerland. Same weapons, just 200-500 chf more expensive than the semi and almost nowhere to actually trigger the funswitch.
Almost all ranges only allow semi auto fire and there's literally no space for american style ranges.
The typical swiss range is a house with the standard military target 300m away for rifles (pic related) and 25/50m for pistols or small indoor ranges/cellars usually for air rifles/small calibers.
or small indoor ranges/cellars usually for air rifles/small calibers.
inb4 inevitable swiss retard with
>muh special gun club allows you to go aikimbo with dual miniguns while running down range
>Go to store
>Pick out gun (the hardest part)
>Do some shitty paper work that takes less than 5 minutes
>Run background check
>Pay
>Leave with a new gun
>>28272967
>Going to fight with YPG
>Just buy whatever fucking gun you want and gear you want as long as you have the cash for it and go kill ISIS
If this is accurate, I'm going to jizz. Please do confirm.
>>28277121
Apparently thats just for the pesmerge, the YPG get an ak variety or m16a2
>>28277121
Learn Kurdish as I instructed and learn closely during training. My next deployment when my leg heal will as a Pêşmerge to YPG training adviser for their NCO and Officer Corps. You will issue a AK-74/AKM/M16A2 at first. If you have money, buy something else. I got the call today, I am being promoted to 3rd Lieutenant. That is 6.357USD/month.
Officer Candidate - 5.400$/month
O-1A/3rd LT - 6.357$/month
O-1B/2nd LT - 6.957$/month
O-2/1st LT - 7.042$/month
O-3 - 7.651$/month
O-4 - 8.025$/month
O-5 - 8,478$/month
O-6 - 9,921$/month
O-7 - 10.431$/month
O-8 - 11.210$/month
O-9 - 12.994$/month
O-10/General - 14.200$/month
O-10A/Field Marshal - 16.500$/month
O-11/Command-in-Chief - $17.000/month
>>28272819
To add this still restricts all semi autos (.22's and shotguns too) and pump shotguns
There are extra steps to get handguns How ever it is doable
>>28272616
reading through this thread makes you realize how ahead of the curve the founding fathers were
they KNEW guns were gonna be the main cause of butthurt among the ruling parties
>>28276736
Pt.2: The sportshooters license
>Join a shooting club
>take a firearm knowledge exam (50 dollar)
>Take a sport physician's suitability exam (45 dollars)
>Do a shooting exam (30 dollars)
>Acquire a firearm requiring paper from your club
>Go to the local police and say that you are ready to get a firearm
>In the next 30-60 days they will come out to examine your safe and safety requirements
>After this happens, you will get a firearm acquiring paper, and in the next 90 days, you are able to buy yourself a gun (shotgun, bolt-action, semi, and handgun without up to .50 and no full auto)
>Register this gun at your local police station
>Pay your yearly club fee.
>>28276558
I didn't get any of those references but it still sounded funny to me.
anyways here's my funny story about getting a gun Lithuania:
>enter a gun store
>file a 2 page document
>commit suicide
that's it. because we commit the most suicides in the world. get it?
>>28273444
Virginia
>go to gun store
>fondle all the gats
>gun owner lets me shoot his CCW FNX-45 out behind the building
>glawk shines in the corner of my eye
>tell him I want glawk
>online background check, takes 2 minutes
>pay in cash, get discount and free ammo
>walk out with glawk
Just moved to california
>Go to gun store
>Protesters outside store
>Police inside store
>cavity check at the door
>Fingerprint scanner
>Forced to pay $25 to get a Firearm Safety Certificate
>The exam is 20 multiple choice questions, so easy a retard could pass it
>Pick out my gun
>Pay for it
>Gun sits in jail for 10 days
>I go back to pick up my baby
>Police cavity search me again
>On a government list now
>>28274098
How did you manage to get a CCW in California?
>>28277635
You shouldn't have left
>>28277412
YPG don't get paid tho, right?
>>28277412
>My next deployment when my leg heal
man this will sound stupid, since obviously a war is happening there, but how dangerous is the deployment? Do your guys die all the time, do you send new-comers as cannon fodder? what do you usually "do" there? is it like NATO forces in iraq/afghanistan, usually just sitting in the base? or do you literally perform missions all the time and shoot ISIS fighters at 30 yard range?
>>28277645
You can get a CCW in some counties in Kalifornia - depends on your sheriff. San Diego county sheriff (where I live) doesn't allow us. Ninth circuit case about it now.
>Be Sheriff Gore
>ex-FBI
>In charge of Ruby Ridge massacre
>now Sheriff in SD
>Order execution of a "kidnapper" unarmed in the wildness
>Be giant faggot
>Hate 2A and SD citizens so much that a court case might make it to the supreme court
>>28277669
I know. Best job opportunity for me in CA though. And I can't complain about beaches and the weather. Fuck, do I miss Virignia though
>>28274749
>>Source : me, living in Geneva with a FA MG42 and SIG 553
and not posting pics as proof.
>intothetrashitgoes.webm
>>28277669
A YPG OR-1 make ~78$/month. We are still helping set up their economy/rebuild/building infrastructure/budgets/so on.
>>28277675
VBIED and IED are the biggest threat and then snipers. 1.216 Pêşmerge have been killed since the beginning. Some sectors are low intensity and some very high. There is no in between, really. Guards the border is low intensity until an order comes to act. Others place like around Mosûl have extremely high rates of engagement. When we do pushes now, it is all combined and mechanized arms. I had to use a translator for some of that. I hope it is understandable.
>>28277810
Is there training you can take to become a sniper/dm? $400 used svds sound too good to pass up
>>28277913
If you show the YPG that you are accurate enough, they may select you. We helped train their Yekîneyên Antî Teror marksman and snipers in Iraqi Kurdistan. YAT is their best train units right now.
YAT video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkVFUGPQimQ
>>28277810
getting sniped sounds scary as hell.
>1.216 Pêşmerge have been killed since the beginning.
so that's an average of almost 1 death every day, assuming you've been out there for 3 years.
do kurdish forces often get captured? I heard you guys commit suicide if that occurs, is that true?
>>28273022
Did you hear about Onix Lorenzoni? That backstabbing motherfucker betrayed us and introduced a bill to ban the importation of firearms!! I wish some would stab that cocksucker right in his jugular vein.....
>>28277969
I got hurt in a ambush, Shot through the ass/hip/femur/left testicle and right knee cap. Not so often, If Special Forces/ATU can not get us out, then, yes.
>>28274197
700 dollars for a legal one if such wasn't exclusively restricted to active-service military and law enforcement. It only costs 700 reais if illegal and it usually beaten to shit and good luck finding ammor for it, also, if you get caught its' no funz for the rest of your life.
>>28273062
I was a Corporal in the USMC, non-combat r8, but did a det to afghan, we had 1 firefight, does that count?
>>28272616
US:NJ ... ill let u do the rest
>>28278271
Yes. FRAME or DAWN is what you want to look into.
http://www.directactionwarfighternetwork.com/volunteer.html
>>28278010
sounds painful, how did you endure the ambush? just shot and killed every single ISIS fighter? and how man were there of you?
>>28278349
Not interested in Ukraine at all.
>>28277964
Dose the ypg make you cut your beard and hair?
>>28278502
I pulled myself off back behind one of the T-62 and helped guide their fire on my radio until I blacked out. I manage to tourniquet my left leg some how. I My Company plus two T-62 and four BMP-1 and their support. 108 Pêşmerge total. They counted 54 Daesh killed by return fire from the tanks and another 73 killed by ground return fire.
>>28278877
It is to be kept short. Think crew cut or something like US Army haircut. It is best to keep your beard shaven in case you have to don your gas mask. Daesh uses sulphur mustard,and/or nitrogen mustard sometime.
>>28278349
>>28278640
>>28278944
DAWN website says the Pesh recruitment drive is over. Any other groups recruiting foreigners for you am I behind the power curve? I'm not interested in Ukraine.
>>28278977
You could try checking on OKFII or پێشمەرگە - Peshmerga(on facebook).
New Jersey:
-submit myself to a criminal background check, mental history check, fingerprinting, and two fucking character reference surveys (by non-related people)
-wait 30-180 days depending on how long it takes the local PD to fill out their end
-get a card that allows me to purchase any long gun w/out waiting, following a federal AND local NICS check (and the local one is done by hand so takes a few hours) - as long as said gun is not banned by name (can't have AR-15, but can easily buy an M&P 15 because two letters and a symbol are different on the same fucking gun), or it doesn't have too many of an arbitrary retarded rollercoaster of evil features: bayonet lug, pistol grip, collapsible stock, flash hider, threaded barrel, removable magazine, grenade launcher
if i'm masochistic enough to try for a handgun, i have to fill out the same paperwork - and get the fucking character survey completed AGAIN each time.
I then wait another 30-180 days, and receive an permit to purchase that expires in 90 days. I can obtain 3 max, and all three expire at the same time. I can purchase maximum of one gun every 30 days, so i buy one on day 1, day 31, and day 62 or whatever. No permit? no handgun.
Same federal and local NICS check applies to handguns.
Oh, and CCW is basically impossible to obtain since you have to show reasonable cause (and nothing fits that description). Only 500 people in the whole state have one, and they're all ex-cops who bypass the 'need' clause.
>>28272796
Also in USA w/Curio and Relic license, you can buy "vintage" guns via mail. Ex.: SKS, old handguns incl. .38 S&W., .32, Etc.
>>28272797
In Georgia our engagement rings come with free rifles, and you can inherit any firearms at any age. full auto weapons you have to be eligible for the permit.(21, no felonies, background check)
>>28272796
private sale is legal, not even an ID or citizenship is required. Just can't knowingly sell to a felon or mentally ill. But its not your job to ask. 0_o
>Go gun store.
>Fill paperwork.
>Bribe National Registry dude
>Extra bribe for carrying liscence
>Mandatory training
>Gun is mine
or
>Have cop friend
>Or friend that has cop friends
>Make him search for gun
>Give him money to buy gun
>Pay him
>Buy gun
That is how life is in commie argentina
>>28277810
>>28277412
>>28272967
Have you made a thread talking about all of your experiences?
>>28278944
How do you get in and out of Syria do you have to go through turkey when you come and when you leave.
>>28278349
I might be interested in the Ukraine if I see my life not getting better instead going an hero might as well go to Ukraine.do you know anything about how to get in and out of the country
>>28279584
Where are you going to shoot that gun though? Are there ranges in Argentina? Or just go out in the desert somewhere?
>>28272781
you forgot to apologize
France here.
Getting manual repeating long guns is relatively easy : either become member of a shooting club or get a hunting permit.
Shooting club : on paper it's easy. Find shooting club, pay fee to join. Some paperwork involved but nothing to serious : proof you have an empty judiciary record and approving from a doctor (they seem to approve easily unless you are visibly fucked in the head, it's more of a formality). You then get a shooting licence that you have to have signed by your doctor (again a formality), and you can use this licence to get guns and ammo. Online purchase are possible, as well as private sales. Just email them your scaned ID and licence and you're good.
Finding a shooting club can be difficult according to where you live, and some are maxed out. Actually since the attacks in Paris people have been rushing clubs, which in turn enforced even stricter members caps in an atempt to drive away those who aren't here strictly for sport. Depends of the clubs but they are indeed warry of being accused to arm the people.
Registration of your guns can be troublesome according to where you live, it is done with an outdated, clunky program and the people using it often make mistakes (they aren't into guns themselves and don't necessarily know that 8mm Mauser, 7.92x57mm and 8x57 IS are the same thing and such shenanigans).
You can get a licence for a year, buy a bunch of category C long guns and ammo and never renew it but keep the guns. Category B guns (semi autos and handguns) are a lot harder to get, require more hoops jumping and stuff and have to be sold/given up if you don't renew your shooting licence.
Hunting licence isn't that complicated either, though I'm not aware of the details. But hunting remains a "common man" activity here so it's relatively easy and cheap.
No way to get Category B guns with a hunting licence though, they would be prohibited for hunting anyway.
>>28272798
How awesome is it that the yuropoor country that makes my favorite guns also has what appear to be the best gun laws in Europe.
How do locals feel about ameritards?
>>28273035
your commas , and your periods . are backwards
jelly of your funs though...
>>28272797
I got one at two weeks old as a baptism present.
Kentucky
>go into funstore
>find fun
>pay for fun
>owner throws in a box of ammo for free.
>jump back in america-mobile
>freedom all the way home.
>>28273391
comrade... if you've found a way for the average russian medic to deduce if someone is an idiot can you please share it? .....
>>28273584
this is kept in check by the fact that if you went out and shot someone with the weapon you bribed that policeman for then they would probably bury him so far in the gulag he'd forget what sun looked like....
>>28277964
Is anyone else going to say anything about the "sweet-tea and skittles" targets they're shooting at in the beginning?
>>28272844
Yeah and no semi auto
>>28280047
>go to private clinic
>gib 2-5k rubles
>enjoy your new papers
>>28279657
Border crossings.
Italy actually isn't SO bad for EU.
No full-auto weapons though.
No OC.
Getting a range permit or a hunting permit isn't hard.
You can even get CC if you live in notoriously shitty areas or are a high status official.
>>28280774
Are there people that smuggle you across or hoof it like a mexican?
>>28274772
I am trying to get into Syria, but having problems
NC
>See gun
>Buy gun
>Background check
>Get gun
If pistol:
>Go to sheriff
>Pay a 5 dollar purchase permit
>5 minute background check
>see gun
>buy gun
or
>Obtain CCW licence
>See gun
>Buy gun
I recommend the third option
>>28272616
Go to store, give them money, demand wanted gun, wait like 5 minutes while the guy behind the counter does some retards paperwork, walk out with new gun and bullets for new gun. P fuckin easy bro.
>>28274350
A few things:
It's not a 6 month wait anymore, more like 1.
It's also a 3-day wait on pistol grip shotguns, AR pistols, and SBRs.
Other than those two things you're good.
>>28280970
We just drive/march through the crossings. We have an agreement with the YPG. They drive/march across to support us when needed.
>>28281260
What problems are you having?
>>28281578
The lions told me to come here, so I came here. Now they tell me they can't get me across the border
>>28281601
I will see what I can find out and try to get you on the next Pêşmerge convoy in. Let me make a few calls.
>>28281623
Legend, do you have Facebook or wickr?
>>28281623
Also where are you?
We could do /k/ Kurdistan meet up!!!
I have no nugget though
>>28281661
At my house, not giving that out over 4chan. I will make a throw away email to contact you if I get something.
>>28281676
I have throwaway Facebook and email
Jt68533 at gmail
Address is for both email and Facebook
>>28273800
such as a woman with an violent ex
perfect
>>28281661
Oh, theres a question. What does an older rifle like a mosin, enfield, k98 (or other mausers) springfield 1903 run in the kurdish markets?
Newer bolt actions like cz's, bakail, norinco, even mossburg/remington make it over there?
>>28281676
Oh, and congrats on your promotion
>>28281564
i think at the beginning the wait was that bad maybe???
idk
but if i had to wait 1 month to get wet
id think it was 2 lifetimes
>>28277701
>Ninth circuit case about it now.
818 here, if you think the peruta case will actually change anything, you are dumb as fucking fuck.
>>28280836
Don't forget the perfectly legal innawoodsing
Going to spend new year's eve in the woods with some friends, eating, drinking and shooting guns.
Since it's new year I've got a "link" for my rifle for a funnier night, and then I'll leave that cute thingy in the woods
>>28281917
>perfectly legal
>perfectly legal
>perfectly legal
i think you mean perfectly culturally acceptable
which is even better
>>28280047
>>28280339
Actually you just go to clinic, medic checks the records, if you have no records being treated from drug addiction or mental ilnesses, you receive the papers. Everything completely free, took me about 20 minutes.
>>28272797
Down here in Texas ours are free, and given at birth.
>>28281702
I am not from here, I came to fight
>>28282332
that question was for the lt.
>>28276677
Probably a Wal-Mart corporate decision.
>Shitty lgs
Nigga wah? I've been in some pretty small gun stores and 100% of them are better than your average Wal-Mart for everything except ammo prices. Any way, just go to a different town like Owasso, Claremore, or Broken Arrow.
>>28281676
Any luck my friend?>>28282373
Why did you ask me then?
>>28279856
Actually yours are. Most of the planet does it his way. In the U.S. we write our numbers wrong.
It's just like imperial vs. metric weights and measures. Amerifats use one system, educated people use another.
>>28280286
Zim Zam is peshmerga nao?
>>28273444
Ohio
>"I want that"
>Fill out 4473 form
>Background check
>If all checks out, take gun home
>>28272854
Private Party Transfer. A small transaction between two Individuals.
>>28272819
So basically encourage illegal gun sales.
New Jersey: handgun
>go to police station and fill out application
>fill out mental health records consent
>get finger printed $55
>get two non-relative references to send in notirized letters saying you aren't crazy.
>they sent a letter to my mother, who I haven't lived with in 10 years?!?!?
>law says permits in 30days or less
>wait 6 fucking months for permits
>pick up permit from police station $5 (only allowed 3 at a time)
>have 90 days to buy gun or permit expires.
IF YOU CHANGE YOUR ADDRESS YOU DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!!
>>28273452
>shoot for a year with their guns
why do germans always feel the urgent need to take the fun out of everything that doesn't have tits or four wheels?
>>28272616
New Zealand
>Take gun safety course and sit test
>Fill in application form, pay fee
>Go to police station with form, proof of safety course completion, two passport photos, 3 ID documents, details of two referees, receipt for fees
>Someone (usually a cop but not always), checks your gun storage, interviews you and your referees.
>Crims, druggies, alcoholics, psychos etc don't get guns
If everything checks out you can then buy rifles and shotguns suitable for hunting. Pistols and ARs require more checks and stuff.
>Alaska
>be 16 to legally own rifles and shotguns
>can concealed carry a pistol with a permit if 21 and not a felon
>Alaska freedom of firearms act
>blah blah blah go to store pick out gun show ID pay take gun and leave
>>28272810
savage axis for 580 swiss francs? thats like $1,000 us dollars for something that sells for $300 in the US?
>>28272819
fuck that shit. is it the hot surfer girls that keep you there?
>>28273210
howd that one arab who was gonna go shoot up that amsterdam train pass the background check to get an ak47? was he a member at a shooting range for 12 months?
>>28274973
section 2 shells don't have to be stored in a seperate safe
they don't even techically need to be stored safely at all
>gun owners in charge of actually reading the firearms act
>>28276558
this sounds magical, i wish to move states now
>>28272759
where in austria do you live?
>>28277635
>kalifornia
you forgot requirement to buy a stupid useless cable lock with your gun before leaving, otherwise pretty accurate. also, heavily limited selection, since only "california DOJ approved handguns" are allowed for sale, and no mags >10 rounds allowed, and no un-neutered ar aks
>>28273210
AR's look possible, just not full auto and limited to .22LR. At least that's what I can see for sale. No idea if it's genuinely harder to get etc.
>>28280836
what kind of permits do you need for antique blackpowder pistols?
>>28280836
>>28283513
just wondering because in america, all our black powder pistols seem to be made in italy. like uberti, pietta, etc
>>28283527
Did America make black powder pistols?
Thought most guns were imports on the ass end of the black-powder era in America barring what rifles you could make in the war of independence.
>>28283113
Almost but not quite.
To clarify for non-kiwis, New Zealand has the licence with alphabetical "categories" except less shit that Australia.
A-cat, all firearms licences by default are A-category.
This gives you:
Single-shot, Bolt-action, Lever-action, Pump-Action, Semi-Auto Rifles and Shotguns.
So long as: No pistol grip, no flash suppressor, no bayonet lug (because adding a knife to your gun somehow makes it deadlier), and no folding/telescopic stock, and the overall length of the gun is more that 762 mm. If your rifle/shotgun is semi auto it needs a magazine capacity of 7 or less, or if it's a rimfire, 15 or less.
B-cat, pistol category.
A bitch to get, you have to be a member of a pistol club for 6 months and you can't use a pistol for hunting, CC-ing, only target shooting or sporting shit.
A pistol is defined in NZ as any gun shorter than 762 mm, or any gun designed to be used with one hand.
C-cat. Collector's category.
This is what people mean when they say "Kiwis can own and buy new machineguns." Realistically it means that you have to be a bona-fide collector (like a museum or a re-enacting group) and that you can't fire the guns except for purposes like making a movie or TV show, reenacting, and you can only shoot blanks. (not that that stops anyone with a private range out in the wop-wops)
E-cat. Scurry 'salt weppun category.
This is where your vanilla AKs, ARs, semi-auto milsurp, and everything that doesn't fall into the other categories goes.
It was created after our own Port Arthur called the Aramoana Massacre. (even though the guy only killed four of the fourteen with a Type 86S and the rest with a variety of .22 rifles)
>>28283536
im talking about modern reproductions commonly available today
like this:
http://www.cabelas.com/category/Black-Powder-Revolvers/567338580.uts
>>28283583
My bad, thought it turned to a period thing. Though now I'm curious about my previous question.
>>28273022
Btw, any handgun cartridge that produces over 400j of energy is military only, as well as any other cartridge with "magnum" or "super" on its name.
Hunting licenses are only possible of you live in a place with dangerous species, like alligators or jaguars, and only allow for shotguns and lever/bolt actions.
Also, CC permits are basically impossible, you have to prove to your city's PD that you have a job that puts you in immediate danger, like a politician, and they might still deny it because.
>>28272616
Lebanon
You get one for your 18th birthday, or just buy it off an arms dealer.
>>28274749
>Genève
>cuckest city in Switzerland
>liberals and commies everywhere
>almost no gun store anymore
>owns a FA MG42
>>28273210
So you have to visit a range 18 times over the course of a year before you get a gun?
>>28283513
In France you can buy online.
http://www.armurerie-lavaux.com/Armes-Poudre-Noire/Revolvers-poudre-noire/Revolvers-PIETTA-Colt/
>>28279777
Sorry to my 4th favorite boeing.
>>28273022
>you need to be 25 years old
That's not a bad idea at all, considering most violent crime is commited by young males 18-25. If they did something like that in the states, might cut down on school shootings.
>>28284124
>If they did something like that in the states, might cut down on school shootings
>>28284124
How about you shut your whore mouth?
You need a hunting licence or a shooting sport licence to buy any firearms.
Need a B permit for semi autos with capacity greater than 3 rounds, for handguns and for rifles chambered in "military calibers". Handguns limited to 20 rounds. B permit is hard to obtain I think, self defence is not a valid reason. You can only keep 1000 rounds at home per gun.
>>28272616
Live in Connecticut.
Costs like $350 in total to get your permit.
Takes about 3 months
No ar15s
No more than 10 round magazines
>>28284161
France btw
Ready for some shit?
Australia - NSW hunting edition
-Join approved shooting organisation $50-$150 a year (if you're lucky enough to own land and aren't going to hunt on public land you can skip this, lucky you.)
-Apply for hunting licence $75 a year
-Do safety test $15
-Apply for gun licence $100 for 2 years
-Buy and install gun safe minimum cost $175
So far you're at about $500 and you haven't even bought a bullet yet. Not to mention all the various waiting time, you're probably about 3 months in so far.
After all fees are paid and the police have inspected everything with a fine tooth comb you can then buy your first gun.
No pistols, semiautos or pump actions.
If you want a pistol it's similar but you have to join a pistol shooting club and you're never allowed to load it anywhere but on the range of the club.
>>28278010
>Got shot in the balls.
This is how I know you're legit.
No one ever lies about that.
Is that how you found 4chan? While on the hospital bed?
Massachusetts
>Wake up at 6am
>Make coffee from organic fair trade localally roasted beans
>argue on Facebook about white privilege.
>get reported to the state police for racist thoughts.
>say I'm sorry to the black presenting asexual social justice commissar.
>it's my first offense, commissar gives me a paddling. Thank god I'm a masochist.
>7am, decide I want to go to the range.
>clear it with the local police.
>go to my LGS to pick up some ammo.
>State police are out front as per usual.
>have to give stool, blood, urine, semen and spinal fluid samples to make sure I'm not a criminal.
>I get detained for being white, fucking racists.
>thought police scanned my thoughts.
>another 10 hits with the paddle
>masochism intensifies
>finally enter the fudd store
>glocks everywhere, only for LEOs
>racks full of durr rifles and shotguns.
>planetary size fudd at the counter helping 3 fuddteroids buy ammo.
>buy 2 boxes of .22 for 8$/50.
>hit my ammo buying quota for the month.
>have to wait another month to shoot my .357 magnum.
>leave store, see that the protestors have arrived.
>a group of ten, with a rainbow of different hair colors
>one of them is dragging a sad looking man by a leash.
>he got caught for using the wrong pronoun on a Asian identifying black pansexual MtF wolf-kin.
>I look at him, he looks at me. I mouth "I'm sorry"
>the group leader sees me.
>accuses me of hate speech. Get dragged off by the local commissar again.
>I didn't immediately put my ammo in a locked container in the trunk.
>charged with visual rape, not storing baby killing bullets properly, hate speech, rape apology and possession of racial pornography (they found a nice photo of my wife)
>sentenced to 20 years of brain retooling at the local progressive ideal institute.
>such is life in Commiechusetts.
1) Walk into store, pick out gun
2) Go through form 4473/ background Check
3) Pay and leave
Literally 10 minutes, faster if they use a computer instead of paper
>>28282433
PKK is fucking things over for everyone. If we try getting you across right now. There is a chance they kidnap you or Turks bomb you.
>>28274514
>It's piss easy in Slovenia.
It's never "piss easy" if you need a "license".
>But I do prefer this than easy CC/OC laws.
Why would you wilfully cu ck yourself? Do you WANT to be an easy target?
>>28284679
Yeah I hear that the PKK is a problem, that is why the lions can't get be across (though they blame turkey). But if I am with a peshmurga convoy won't the PKK leave me alone?
>>28284679
I am willing to take the risk, I did not travel half way across the world to be safe
>>28284814
I will see if any units are marching over. I can try getting a Pêşmerge uniform and weapon for you until you are over the border.
>>28284859
Should I stay in Erbil?
Could I have a AUG?
>>28284870
Erbil is the safest place right now. I am trying not to get Pêşmerge killed and help you at the same time. I will see if any are available, No promises, yet.
>>28284859
This thread is about to die.
I have phone number. Do you want me to post this? People on here can't ring me. Did you get my email?
>>28284908
I am joking about the AUG, this is my countries weapon and what in have trained on. I can get too the faysh khabu border no problems, but I think they won't let me cross.
I was recon, I am used to being in the middle of know where alone
>>28284910
I have your email. If I get anything positive I will ask for your number. I am trying to do this under Intelligence Services nose too. I will see who is in command of Faysh Khabu.
>>28284953
Wickr is best for avoiding intelligence. I believe it is what daesh uses
>>28284329
I bet that coffee was delicious though!
>>28284964
I will look into. Anti-Terror and SF Units are operating around Faysh right now, best to avoid them. They are clearing out PKK.
>>28284998
When are you healed?
>>28285016
I go see the doctor tomorrow. See if they will clear me to return. I will be on morphine pills for quite a while.
>>28285038
Sounds like you are pretty lucky to be breathing
>>28285056
Severed femoral artery when I got shot in the left leg. Which is why I have been down almost five months. Glad I bought a tourniquet two days before I got hurt.
>>28273022
Nowadays this is almost impossible because everything is may-issue. Also, hunting is banned in Brazil.
>>28277997
Really? I voted for him.
>>28284124
I hope you get shot.
>>28285076
Shit 5 months out. No wonder I have seen you on /k/ so much. You must have itchy feet to get back into it
>>28285098
I am wanting to get back out bad. I am going to start a Pêşmerge thread when this one goes.
>>28285113
Good man.
Out of interest sake, can you actually get a AUG here. All I see are m16 and ak47 types. I'm guessing there are also FAL's floating around as they generally show up in almost every war
>>28276783
Can you have a private range a la hickok45 if you own land?
>>28285153
Special Forces have them. FAMAS/VHS-D/VHS-K are floating around near Mosûl front. We do not go into Rojava with the advance/western weaponry beside M16 variants and M4 variants. Be another reason to make Turkey ask question.
>>28285181
I am not a fan of the bullpup really. It is too much of a bitch to change magazines and the bolt is too close to your head if weapon explodes. Good for clearing houses, but that's about it
>>28283435
people keep asking me that
why does it matter ?
>>28285207
I am left handed, I try to use a VHS-D once. It hurt.
>>28285213
They want to know if you're related to Hitler
>>28285181
Wait, so what gear won't raise suspicion from turkey? Say if I brought my ALICE lbe unto the country would they get suspicious?
>>28285214
We had left handed models of the AUG.
FN Minmi (Americans call SAW). Is my favourite weapon to carry. It's heavy, but much easier to control on auto than a 7.62 machine gun. We have this with a ×1.5 scope with a circle and not cross hairs. At 300m the circle surrounds a person. Very effective sights for close to medium range shooting
>>28285229
No, chest rigs are fine. We do not take any MILAN/FGM-148/ERYX. Mk.19/Mk. 47. M249/M240/M2HB in. Western small arms with RIS and Optics also makes them wary. No clue why. I guess they think we would supply the YPG with them.
>>28285229
I came through Kurdish customs the other day wearing 6 inch combat boots and a small camp backpack. They asked no question. The guy said hello and stamped my passport.
Do not book a flight through Turkey to get here. I went Dubai Doha Erbil. No one cared except the guy at the Dubai airport who was worried for my safety
>>28285255
So alice LBE and a slick plate carrier would be ok? Then I could buy SAPI plates or whatever is available once I get there
>>28285247
MG3/MG42/51 is my favorite GPMG. We mix up M249 and those in our fireteams. Fireteam 5 to 6 Pêşmerge usually.
>>28285279
That would be fine. We wear our OTV/IOTV and ACH/PASGT into Rojava.
>>28285285
You have mg42? The fucking 1200 rpm one?
Can i have one. I really would like this weapon. I will give you spare testicle in case you are shot there again if you get me 1200 rpm MG42
>>28285306
MG42/51. Italian made MG3 in 7,62x51mm. It is 1,000 rpm I think. There are some going into Rojava.
>>28285318
1000rpm is not enough to give up my testicle. Sorry brother
>>28285324
You realize that they made the other models fire at 1000 rpm to guarantee if wouldn't fire out of battery, right?
1200 rpm is sex, but potentially dangerous
>>28285346
1200 is fine bolted to the roof of a truck. But yes high rate of fire mean you have to carry too much ammo and you don't know where the bullets are going. But It must be an amazing weapon. It has not really changed much since 1942. I think it's the only Nazi weapon still used in any great numbers
>>28285371
YPG have some old K98/STG44/MG30/MG34 and MG42.
>>28285386
Where so they get stg44 ammo from. I though it would be rare
>>28285404
Found in old storage warehouses. The last time we helped round count. There were still 2,2 million 7,92x33mm available. It is from the 1950's and 1960's though.
>>28275638
BROTHERS!!
>>28285421
Would be fine at the range, but not sure I would trust my life to 60 yr old ammo.
>>28285386
>>28285421
You wouldn't happen to have a range where you can train with those, do you?
I'd want an m16a2/ak74 for real combat encounters but I couldn't pass up trying those out
>>28285446
What I thought. It works for the YPG though. They may try converting some STG44 in 7,62x39mm.
>>28285463
I have a range at my house. YPG will let you test weapons once they trust you for a small price. If you like it. You can buy it or just pick it if the owner is killed in combat.
>>28285463
You won't get an ak74. 5.45 is hard to find out here. Even I know this.
What is wrong with Sergei's 7.62?
>>28285484
>I have a range at my house.
So when am I coming to your house? I bring beer
>>28285506
I will see what the doctor says after tomorrow. I am not to suppose to walking except in therapy. They are worried about my femoral tearing again.
>>28285519
That sounds very shit, but at least you lived. I must go now. I will look for peshmurga thread tomorrow.
Thanks for your help
>>28285492
Round count to weight ratio isn't as good as 5.45. How hard is it to get 5.56?
>>28285547
It is really shit.
Also, made thread.
>>28285555
Norwegian here, we can buy a handful of shotguns and rifles after a 30 hour course & an exam. (There's a list of allowed rifles for example)
To get a pistol you need to be a member at a local pistol club for at least 6 months and at least 21 years old.
.50 cal and other "ridiculously" overpowered calibres are banned.
>mfw I want an .50 cal
>mfw I want an P90
>mfw I want an FN FAL
>mfw It's all illegal
Kill me, I'm considering getting it illegally soon.
>>28285832
Also forgot to mention that all "militaristic looking" weapons are banned and of course automatic weapons.
>>28285832
>>28285836
You live in hell....
>>28284329
fuck what happened to you guys. you were badass in 1776, you have fallen terribly
>>28286913
We got infested by rich Neww Yorkers and our liberal college campuses.
>>28286749
Tell me about it.
Please ship me the weapon parts and blueprint for an FN FAL please.
>>28287177
I wish I could, but I Only have one...
>>28287525
>mfw Norway will never get more open minded
>mfw can't even buy 7.62×51mm ammunition legally.
>mfw I will never get it
>mfw considering moving to Texas or wtf just to buy tons of guns.