ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN IN HOUSE. >Military-style assault fe

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>>28264887

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"This makes me moist"

>>28264887
If it passed and got signed now I'd expect a situation of obvious nature to arise from it. Lot of people just waiting for one more major attack on their rights to get passed.

I wonder when the dems will realize that thing they just keep kicking is a giant hornet's nest with the NRA being the only part they see. Probably when they start getting shot at by angry gun owners.

Currently it has been referred to the House Judiciary Committee, they'll look it over and it very likely will die in Committee because I'd bet money it's a carbon copy of the same bullshit Feinstein has been shitting out each time someone gets shot. Hell it doesn't even have the endorsement of all the Democrats in the House and not a single Republican.

I'd keep an eye on it but I'd bet money it will die a lonely death in Committee and the dick whistler that rolled it out will get to talk about it to his voters next election cycle.

>>28264887
What the fuck is a Charleston Loophole?

>to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited
it literally says its unconstitutional in the title of the bill
holy shit

>>28264981
A weird cocktail.

>>28264912
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE TRIGGER DISCIPLINE!!

>>28265481
/r/ing pic of the Trayvon Martin cocktail

>>28264887
This is actually kind of hilarious.
>'94 AWB passes
>Liberals claim people exploited it by purchasing off brand "assault weapons" not on the list
>Find modifications/alterations around features to "kind of" allow them to still buy assault weapons
And now what do they do?
>Introduce another AWB
>With seemingly the same or similar loopholes
Morons.

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>>28265559
Not to mention the fact Bill fucking Clinton himself, in retrospect, saw the '94 AWB as the single biggest waste of political capital in his administration. Right after that ill-conceived heap passed, midterms turned Congress red, gridlock and shutdowns ensued, Newt Gingrich got to start controlling the narrative, and it left the Ds with a damaged image and tied hands for years to come.

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>>28265575
Thanks.

Remember: If they come for your firearms, return your ammunition first.

>>28265657
I want to have a portrait done like that, displaying my most treasured firearms.

>>28264981
It's when you tie a string to your wrist and the other end to your balls; when you jerk it, it makes your balls swing back and forth proving an "interesting" sensation.

>>28265457

Yeah, they aren't even trying anymore.

I'm afraid for the future, /k/omrades.

>>28265682
*providing

damn autocorrect.

>>28265514
She also muzzled the whole room. Safety is also off.

>>28264887
This won't come anywhere close to passing.

Anyone have the list of banned firearms?

>>28265682
Sounds painful.

>>28265719
It seems the text of the bill is nowhere to be found.

>>28265719
Any thing with a gas block, gas rail, detachable magazine, 10 round fixed magazine, semi auto, and capable of drawing blood.

>>28265722
Apparently some people find that "interesting"

>>28264887
Guarantee this is the dems having eager anticipation of a star wars shooting so they can have something ready to try and cram through.
They'll probably shoot up a movie themselves they want it so bad.

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>>28264887
So should I buy a complete lower right now?

>>28265780
>implying they didn't set it up the first time around

>>28264950
>Probably when they start getting shot at by angry gun owners.

We had all better hope it doesn't come to this. They're irritating, but they're not THAT irritating.

This bill would ban my SP-01, Ruger 10/22, Winchester Model 62, Marlin Model 60, and all of my competition guns (VEPR-12, AR-15 build, CZ SP-01 Shadow).

Literally every gun I own falls under this ban, even though some of them are 40 and 100 years old. What the fuck.

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>>28264887
Those restrictions are already in place in California and did nothing to stop the San Berdoo attack. Why can't they get this through their thick head?

>>28265864
But, senpai, the text isn't even out yet.

>>28264887
Very few bills pass in this Congress to begin with. Furthermore, there's no way that an assault weapons ban will make it through a Republican controlled House and Senate. There's not much to worry about here beyond the fact that edgy idiots (i.e. the people who think shootings are a real issue and awbs actually stop crime) still exist and fill political positions.

>>28265897
Because its not about making things safer, its about controlling you and your life.

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>>28265899
But we have to pass it to find out whats in it

>>28265897

I can think of a number of reasons.

One, it has nothing to do with reason and everything to do with irrational emotional kneejerking.

Two, the above applies to the people, but the politicians themselves are just using the issue to get more votes.

Three, and the most sinister possibility, the politicians are simply looking to take power from the people.

Four, all of the above.

>>28265840
It will, they won't stop until it comes to that and they'll be legitimately surprised by it.

We can only hope it doesn't get that far anytime soon.

>>28265741
And the shoulder thing that goes up.

>>28264954
>Currently it has been referred to the House Judiciary Committee, they'll look it over and it very likely will die in Committee

This.

It's sad how none of /k/ knows how legislation works. Something like 98% of all proposed bills die in committee

>>28265897
I wish that the NRA would pass an assault rifle protection act so they could nullify all of California's gun laws and devastate Feinstein's puckered anus.

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>>28266022
>Assault rifle

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>>28265719
This list with a few more added.
pic related
1/3

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Awesome job mods

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>>28266037
2/3

>>28266039
At least this is super /k/ related. There's one of those star wars red squadron "all wings report in" threads right out of /b/ over 170 posts.

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>>28266052
3/3

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>>28265682

>>28264981
I think they're referring to the church shooting. That would mean that a "charleston loophole" is where a parent can give a child a gun without a background check.

>>28266057

That and video game threads.

>>28266039
I would rather actual serious political discussion involving firearms was contained to /k/, since /pol/ is not a serious board for intelligent discussion of any political topic.

>>28265897
Because these people feed and act off emotion. And their strategy for success is to play the voters emotionally.

They'll just write up anything that sounds good. The quivering masses will then put up their hands and cheer because it makes them feel good and theres action by politicians, even if that action does literally squat.

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>>28266066
Yeah, theres no way in fuck this will get out of committee. Unconstitutional as fuck.

>>28266039
Posting should not be permitted from mobile devices.

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>>28266066
>MARS Pistol

U fockin wot? An antique?

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>>28266039
>weapons board
>can't talk about firearm regulation
Fucking kikes

>>28266103

>hurr if you have a phone you are a le normie ged out

>>28266078
Which is retarded since Roof was already a felon by that point and his father was committing a crime by giving him a firearm.......

>>28266103
Why not?

Not him, but I only post from mobile due to my job which has me driving around thr country, and I'm barely at home.

>>28266094

Honestly, I'm starting to prefer the idea of a government that can NOT get shit done.

>>28266101

Right because no unconstitutional law has ever been passed before

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>>28266118
>why isn't this free, privately owned service letting me do whatever I want

>>28264887
>To regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes.

That's the official title. It's like it comes with it's own Constitutional challenge built right in.

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>>28266052
>Tavor isn't on the list.

>>28266139
Problem they have now is not whether it's constitutional or not, but that the entire republican majority will laugh the bill to death.

>>28266078
My dad bought me my first rifle a couple years ago when I turned 16. So giving your kids guns would be illegal then?

>>28266135
Why do you think the Constitution breaks the government into different branches that can check each other, and whose members change all the time?

>>28266150
>>28266115
>>28266101
>>28266066
>>28266052
>>28266037
This is the 94 list. You can tell by them including shit like norincos but leaving out any and all mentions of keltec

>>28264887
Out of curiosity, what 157 weapons do they want banned?

>>28266150
Neither is anything out of Zastava. My sweet little N-PAP is invisible to them!

Hell, they didn't even mention Century.

>>28266129
>Which is retarded
remember who we're dealing with

>>28266157
ayuh

>>28266150
this is just the old cali ban list from 1989, i'm sure they will use this as a base and just add more on.

>>28266182
It's just the "all the guns" written 157 times.

>>28264981
When Dylan Roof tried to purchase a gun despite not legally qualifying, the FBI person who conducted the background check was incompetent and could not find anything that could have been used to refuse Roof the purchase. The gun store then sold the gun to Roof three days later as the law allows a gun to be sold if the store does not hear back from the FBI within that time with a reason to refuse the sale.

So because of federal incompetence they intend to extend the mandatory wait time to 14 days.

>>28266158

Precisely that reason.

Thing is, ever since that document's creation, politicians have been trying to get around that.

>>28266190

And I'd bet my arsenal that guns made in Merchantville are still not banned on the new list

>>28266034
>implying I'm not talking about the actual fun switch version which would then buttfuck the NFA as well and make all the libtards' nightmares of 600 round a minute machine guns a reality.

>>28266182
We don't know.

The bill would need to be passed to find out. Lovely how American "democracy" works like that. Just like how with the recent Omnibus bill, oil exports got snuck in, as well as Patriot Act 2.0 (CISA). A bill which needed to be passed for the government to keep running.

>>28266157
Yep, IIRC that also happens when they put in universal background checks. Since you didn't get a background check on joe when you let him shoot your winchester, you dun committed a felony.

>>28266189
Yeah, got a point there.

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>>28266190
Ah, that explains it. Was wondering why they had shit like Daewoos and the FNC but not PTR's, Kel-tec and Tavor's

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>>28266133
4chan should be left at home, where it belongs.

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>>28266066
At least they didn't ban the HK G11. Damn Canadians.

>>28266234
But the road is my home.

>>28266247
Get a laptop.

>>28266207
wut? Far as I knew the weapons came exclusively from his father. He didn't buy any himself at a gun store after his felony.

>>28266239
Yes but the only people who own G11s are nazi space wizards.

>>28266183

Pretty much.

Why, oh why, do so many people desperately want to go back to being peasants disarmed by their feudal lords?

>>28264887

>Text of the bill reads "To regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited"
>to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited

What the fuck happened to "Shall not be infringed?"

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>>28266262
They think of themselves as the feudal lords.

>>28266254
I can't post on a laptop from my van.

>>28265781
you should have done that last night, anon.

>>28266265
It hurt their feelings anon

>>28266183
When did /k/ acquire the ability to levitate weaponry?

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>>28266039
>gun related laws don't belong on the guns board

>>28266182
The ones that kill the innocent children and muffins.

>>28266282
Can your phone act as a hotspot?

>>28266265
>Implying the kept reading the second amendment after "Well Regulated"

>>28264912
>no td
>safety off
>mag in
>probably pointed at someone off camera
and somehow these are the people who are allowed to make firearms legislation

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>>28266267
>/pol/fags think anyone outside of their echo chamber wants them on their boards

Seriously, remember when Moot took away the post timer and every other board on the site raped /pol/ senseless?

>>28266282
I'm sure your parked close enough to a school to leach the wifi.

>>28266267
>Whining that he can't talk about his garbage outside of the designated shitting board on a privately owned website

I suggest you head to le infinity chan, my edgy friend. The autists are waiting for you.

>>28266297
During this also she swept the entire room.

>>28266300
/pol/ even tries to tell everyone they are chummy with /mlp/
Which is really fucking pathetic, considering.

>>28266260
No, apparently he purchased the gun himself. The left is trying to make it out to be a loophole instead of incompetence.

http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/10/no-the-charleston-shooter-didnt-get-his-gun-because-of-a-loophole/

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/07/10/421789047/fbi-says-background-check-error-let-charleston-shooting-suspect-buy-gun

>>28266313
Remember, all Liberals will tell you is if they had a gun they would just start shooting people, this is why they have to ban them.

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>>28266312

>>28266333
They think everyone else is just as insane as they are.

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>>28266348
And this is why everyone hates you.

It isn't because of your political beliefs. There are literal pedophiles here, and nobody bats an eye.

It's the fact that you can't stop shitposting. The second somebody triggers you, you're going to be posting le happy merchant to every single reply you get, because you can't function as a member of the community without attention whoring.

>>28266349
And yet we let them hold places of power.
Arkham has taken control of Gotham.

>>28266182
Still waiting on GPO to print up the text of the bill.

I think I hear Australia laughing at us...

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>>28266037
if they actually pass a bill that bans the right arm of the free world before i can buy one, i will start numerous riots

>>28266324
Well damn. That's some stupid shit m80.

>>28266407
At least we can have lever actions.

>>28266371
>>28266407
>>28266419
You do realize that the Republicans have the Senate and House.

This is political posturing.

>>28266419

If "banning the Right Arm of the Free World" isn't a sign that its time to start shooting motherfuckers, I don't know what is.

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>>28266261
Exactly. I'm safe... For now

>>28266039
Yeah no, fuck that. Gun control is very much firearms related, and anything left into /pol/ is a joke. It's literally console war attitudes with politics.

>>28266432
I understand, but it just gets me all riled up about muh freedoms and muh rights

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>>28266037
>>28266052
>>28266066
SCAR masterrace

>>28266234

This isn't your special private corner of the Internet faggot

>Tfw gun control threads get removed, but anime threads and "post your desktop" is gun related enough to stay
GG mods

>>28266265

>What the fuck happened to "Shall not be infringed?"

It's 2015

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>>28265553
the rare white latino for you because it's the christmas season

>>28266561
gee i wonder why

>>28266562

Serious, non-trolling question...

How do you interpret "shall not be infringed"? Surely as long as Americans have the ability to access a weapon, no matter how useless, it meets the conditions of the 2A?

Surely the minimum it guarantees is some kind of weapon to defend yourself, that could be a taser.

>>28266445
>Not including a drop of cough syrup

>>28266680
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
As in, you will not make laws restricting it. Therefor it is the other way around. We are, under the 2A, allowed to have ANY weapon.

>>28266695
>tfw i have to share the board with people like this

>>28266695

Doesn't specify that you can have any weapon you want:

>A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

>>28266680

It's "the right to bear arms" ("arms" being plural here), not "the right to bear this specific weapon" like in Britain where they have that old longbow law still on the books

>>28266718

Ugh I know right people who enjoy having rights are so annoying XD

The 2A only applies to muskets and swords XDDD

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>>28266757
Holy shit you're retarded. It explicitly says that the govt can't restrict what type of arm I wish to own. Fuck, get a vasectomy

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>>28266757
Welcome to /k/, now git.

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>>28266778

>tfw I could buy 10 breech-loading naval guns tomorrow and mount them on my boat and legally sail anywhere in my state and there's nothing grabberfags can do about it

>>28266115
Don't worry, at least they didn't ban the Borchardt C-93!!! phew! close one

>>28266778

Yeah, where. Point out where it says explicitly that you can own what you want.

>inb4 SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

having access to any weapons would satisfy the conditions of the 2A, it doesn't even make clear the oft cited defence of "if tha gubment got it, we get it"

>>28266778
>Vasectomy
Stop with the pleasentries. Castrate em'

>>28266757


It doesn't. But I imagine that they didn't intend for us to have incredibly destructive weaponry like a SCUD or a nuke.

As much as I hope it won't pass you can never be too sure with Obama pushing his political agenda into everything.

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>>28266037
>PSG 1
Who the fuck in America has a fucking PSG!?

>>28266718
Reddit seems like a place more suited for you, friend.

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>>28266786
>mfw

>>28266822
See >>28266786
Trying to argue that if you have at least some sort of weaponry there is no infringement is idiotic. Worst case you are a fucking idiot and best case you are a troll. Welcome to /k/, now git.

>>28266847


Collectors?

Legit HK weapons end up in collections I've noticed. Or they're copies built on clones.

Did see a real M60 for a cool 19 grand at Cabelas not too long ago.

>>28266786

See, that's a good reply. Not just parroting SHALL NURT BE INFURNGED

>>28266757
It also doesn't give the government the power to regulate weapons, only militias. The constitution details powers the Feds have, or explicitly do not have.

States, however, could try to use the 10th amendment to say they can regulate weapons.

>>28266841
See >>28266786

>>28266870
That list was the 1984 one IIRC. That will probably be the same but expanded.

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>>28266039
You know that's to keep retards from coming in and saying "why haven't you turned in your guns yet Americunts???", and not to keep /k/ from discussing pending gun control and regulation, right?

That's the way it's always been. Gun regulation that actually affects gun owners has traditionally been allowed to be discussed on /k/, whereas retards that try to come and bait with "hurr durr fuck you gun owners ban assault weapons now!!!" are banned/warned and redirected to /pol/. You tend to see these stickies following a mass shooting, and it's to keep idiots from polluting our board with trash troll threads, not to keep people from discussing gun laws that are very much pertinent to gun ownership.

Unfortunately, tons of idiots like you have interpreted this sticky as "you're not allowed to talk about laws at ALL", which is simply not true and clear to anybody that has browsed this board for more than a few months.

>>28266822
>arm: a : a means (as a weapon) of offense or defense; especially : firearm

Note that this does not say "limited to firearms"--firearms are a central but not limiting example, as we see from the common usage "arms race". Thus, the arms we have the right to bear are not limited to any particular variety.

>>28266905
>Unfortunately, tons of idiots like you have interpreted this sticky as "you're not allowed to talk about laws at ALL"
>implying Chairman Mod doesn't interpret it that way and bans constructive gun control threads

>>28266891

Doesn't federal law trump state law though?

So if background checks et al are technically unconstitutional couldn't you argue against them in a federal court if you got turned down for a sale?

>>28266052
>MAS 223
HOLYSHITFAMAS GETTTTING BANNEDNOWITTIMETOBUYONE

>>28266905
You ignore that the mods have been overzealous with policing gun control threads. Majority of the ones I've seen are often talking about the latest shooting or recent legislation. Not massive shitposting about "hurr gun fags btfo!!11!!".

>>28266894


I'm honestly thinking that the USAs Democrats want us to be like Europe and have a nanny state.

Shits not freedom. That's slavery.

>>28266933
Why would they even bother putting it on there anyway. There's like 1 in America holy shit.

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>tfw you have a spooky ghost gun that can't be banned by name

>>28266822
>Point out where it says explicitly that you can own what you want.
Point out where it says I cannot. While you're at it, find me historical documentation that the founding fathers intended to limit the arms an individual was allowed to bear.

Keep in mind that the Bill of Rights does not grant anything, and should not be viewed from the angle of "this is how the people shall be limited". It is not a limiting document. It simply affirms natural human rights that the government does not have a right to infringe upon, and the purpose of the document is to limit the government, not the people.

>>28266037
>Arsenal
>SLG
Whew good thing I have an SGL and SLGs don't exist

>>28266037
>PSG-1

But, how will I defeat Sniper Wolf?

I was going to hurry up and save Meryl

>Republican Congress
Nothing to worry about

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Your daily reminder that damn near half the country wants you dead or in prison. Progun queers, socialists, or 420blazit's will be buried in the same mass grave. No exemptions, no matter how edgy or liberal you are.

The time to decide is damn near upon you, folks.

>>28264887
wew, got a babykiller-15 with 30 and two 40 round magpul this month for Kwanzica-mass.

May need to buy more though.

>>28266930
Technically yes. Though states can still tell the gov't to fuck off and do whatever they want. Look to the states that legalized weed.

Though you could argue that the Constitution is defining the relationship of the federal and state governments, not the people living within the states.

>>28266942
Frankfurt School, Political Correctness, Cultural Marxism, and Communism. Frankfurt School came up with political correctness which they use to enforce cultural marxism in the hopes that they can cause a revolution giving us "glorious" communism. I'm not saying there is some big conspiracy with some grand vizier orchestrating every move. Simply that there are a lot of idiots who think communism is good (because muh intersectionality) and are working towards it. US Democrats are not Liberal, they are Progressive.

>>28266988
all it takes is one horribly timed tragedy anon

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You can all shut the fuck out about the next "revolution
>muh rights"
When push comes to shove, you ain't gonna do shit. Let's look at '94 when it passed the first time no problem.
Nobody is going to do anything. You're going to sit on your asses, accept it, and then bitch about it on 4chan...

>>28266930
Does the federal government have the power to require background czechs?

Federal law that is unconstitutional should be beat out by state law in the courts on every occasion.

>>28267005
Sandy Hook didn't do it, and that was 20 kinder-gardeners getting shot right before Christmas.

>>28267005
Sandy Vag.