Sup /k/, Lets talk rocket launchers. Specifically the Carl Gustaf,

>>28053843
swedistans are producing god tier weapons
carl gustavs are my fav launchers

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>>28053843
CG is a recoilless rifle, not a rocket launcher.
And yeah, it's pretty neat lil' thing. The new M4 is a tad smaller and notably lighter than its predecessors, making it easier to carry and use.

some say it's way past its date as an AT-weapon, but I'd say that if a goddamn RPG-7 can still wreck up Abrams, CG definitely can too.

>>28053947
>CG is a recoilless rifle, not a rocket launcher.

Yeah in Swedish the direct translation is grenade launcher, But that did not sound right in english so i said Rocket launcher.

SAAB/Bofors (the creator) spoke very highly of the new CG, Thats why i made this thread, To see what people that might've used one say about it.

>>28053843
>>28053947
>>28053988
The best HEAT round for it can pen more then 500.

Otherwise it goot neet HEDP rounds and can kill anything that does not have armor.

I trained one the original steel Carl G in 2008, loved that thing. I've yet to see the weapon fail, and have only seen one round not fire (faulty primer).

The old ones are heavy though, the fiberglass ones (M2?) are considerably more comfortable to hump around.

>>28053843
Carl G is GOD TIER!

One of the only infantry weapons that really scared the Taliban. Once we established contact if we started shooting them they tended to fuck off really bad.

Sadly I have only shot it 4 times in training and never in a real fight :(

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>>28054019
>The best HEAT round for it can pen more then 500.
which isn't too much, considering the latest LAW M72 variants can penetrate up to 450mm.

Still, nobody goes against modern armors with mere HE-rounds these days, unless they got no choice.

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>>28054890
Well it can kill a T-72A or a T-72M1 from the front while the M72 cant.

Maybe 50/50 the turret but atleast the hull from the front. Good thing is that there are not that many IFV's in the world that got the same base armor as the T-72M1

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>rocket launchers. Specifically the Carl Gustaf
What

>Is it so good as people say?
It is

>>28054067
>I trained one the original steel Carl G in 2008,
That would be the m2. The m1 was phased out in a long time ago. The m2 came 1964.

>the fiberglass ones (M2?)
That is the m3.


Its really good and accurate and a real blast to shoot. Basically like a direct fire mortar that front line troops can deploy in seconds. Very efficient and handy when you want to kill people that are in cover and things like that.

Can also be used for smoke, illumination, flechettes etc.

So accurate that a good shot can shoot at a tree at several hundred meters and get an air burst like effect. Not that you need to do that since you can just decide what range you want it to airburst at anyway.

the m3 and the m4 version are also very light. People said that the m3 version are only made to shoot like 50 rounds or so but i shot several hundreds from mine and i never had any problems with it. Then some one said they would explode if you shot them to much and we had to change to the old m2's, that sucked. It doesn't even have a carrying handle.


Pic related, its the m2.

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One time i shot and loaded 48 rounds (50/50) in a day.

Was pretty fun but i got pretty tired.
There was some rule about not shooting that much because it could fuck you up but we had a lot of ammo left so...

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>>28055158
I wish I could feel the sinus clearing blast of a recoiless rifle.

>>28053843
>lets talk rocket launchers
>specifically the Car Gustag
>which is a recoilless rifle
>its even called that in the file name
Really OP, really??

>>28055261
It was pretty nice when you had a cool.

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Numrich has some demilled ones. Might be cool to go with my ruhpug

>pic related

Need to find a cheap PGO-7 now. Would look good on it and probably be a blast on my AK.

>>28054019
Isn't there a tandem round available?

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>>28053843
You know Sweden has a history of really interesting and significant advancements to weapon technology? The Ljungman was the first, or one of the first guns to use direct impingement. The 6.5x55 Swedish is a great cartridge, and when I say great, I really mean great.
SAAB has a history of creating great jets, perhaps not the Gripen, but A32 Lansen, Draken and Viggen were all impressive planes.
The M/45 smg is a great weapon too.
Bofors makes good artillery. The list goes on.

You can say a lot about the Swedish armed forces and the state of the country, but for its size it has a very impressive track record when it comes to the inventing and producing stuff. So for God's sake, have some pride Sven

>>28055248
If it rocks your body anything like a SMAW does then I can only imagine how badly it shook your brain.

One guy in my platoon shot 11 rounds in one day and was stumbling around like he was drunk.

It was like getting kicked in the Kevlar at full bore.

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>>28055332
Ah, not to mention SAAB 29 Tunnan set the world speed record when it was new. Wiki quote
"The J 29 was one of the first production fighters with a swept-back wing. It was fast and agile, and set the world speed record on a 500 km (310 mi) closed circuit in 1954[6] at 977 km/h (607.05 mph). Two S 29C (reconnaissance variant) additionally set an international speed record of 900.6 km/h (559.4 mph) over a 1,000 km (620 mi) closed-circuit course in 1955."

Fun fact, there are airbursting munitions for these. Ricky really liked them.

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>>28055332
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kjellman_machine_gun
>Although the patent dated back to 1870, and prototypes may have existed at least a half a decade before the Maxim was invented

Stay mad maximfags.

>>28055369
>One guy in my platoon shot 11 rounds in one day and was stumbling around like he was drunk.
Some people stopped shooting and felt really shitty but i didn't effect me that much. Just felt pretty tired after the day was over, the morning after i didn't feel anything.

>>28055392
>>28055332
Also this is pretty cool. Not revolutionary or anything, but still.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYy-vXRpm_Q

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>>28055319
I Got one of the numrich ones last month. I also grabbed the Chinese PGO scope copy with chinese rail. To mount it on i simply took out the rail fasteners and bolted on the new rail over the russian one by replacing the stock screws with two longer M5 or M6 (dont remember) cap screws.

just need a com block optic battery and I'm all good to go, >feels goodman

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What are some more modern super-caliber weapons? I really like the versatility of the warheads in the RPG-7 and how the pieces screw together

>>28055428
>Carl Gustav confirmed for getting you high
Can you make a greater weapon? Maybe we should attach a fleshlight to the gustav for good measure.

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>>28053843

STANDBY!

>>28055322
Yes

>>28055248
NATO peacetime: max 4 /day, while it sounds stupid all that pressure and vibrations can really fuck with your insides.

>>28055369
That does sound like a concussion.

>>28059829
Well lucky for me we are not in NATO.

>>28055332
The Viggen would not exist if F-16 tech hadn't been given to the Swedes in exchange for secret NATO cooperation during the cold war

>>28060306
True enough, but these safety regulations are usually from the manufacturer. And while most of these are dumb and are disregarded by most in the field, should anything happen your officers would just get thrown under the bus

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The Malaysian still used the Charlie G due to its versatility. Now they been upgraded and supplemented with RPG system.

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>>28060337
The regulations in Sweden where 6 per day and 18 per week IIRC. Then they got removed.

We did hearing test regularly to see if our hearing got worse. The best thing is that even though i fired several hundred rounds over the course of a few years i still didn't suffer any hearing loss at all. In fact my hearing was better then the average civilian 5 years younger then me.

Pic related is pretty good,

Good times. To bad the rest of the country is fucked.

>>28060461
I got some hearing loss from having a goddamn AK4 fired next to my head on full auto with blanks in 2008.
Also got a reprimand for hitting the asshole responsible in the face with the butt of my AK4.
National Service was fun.
Thanks for all the oars swedebro.

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>>28060486
>Also got a reprimand for hitting the asshole responsible in the face with the butt of my AK4.

>>28060337
>>28059829
>>28060461
Twenty-eight HEATRAP/HEDP in a row in Afghan.

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>>28053843
Sverigebroder, ha stolthet. Medans vi må vara det mest patetiska landet på jorden så har vi producerat ett metriskt fuckton av riktigt najs vapen.

>m/45
>AK5c
>G22
>CGs
>Viggen
>tunnan
>gripen
>ljungmanns
>alla våra sexiga mauser-designer
>Strv103 (the stug)

>>28060518
In training or in combat?
In one day or over the whole deployment?

>>28060518

In recognition of the fact that the Carl Gustav is capable of firing HEATRAP, I propose that we start calling it a gun-launcher.

:)

>>28060542
>in a row
In a tic.

>>28060598
>I propose that we start calling it a gun-launche
Well technically you could launch guns with it.

You could also have munition that deploy mines, camera etc.

>>28060649
>tic.
CBRN situation in a-stan what?

>>28060670
Are you kidding me, champ?

>>28060677
http://www.cbrnprofessionals.com/
>CBRN or TIC/TIM Incident.

>>28060652

No, babe, not a "gun launcher", a gun-launcher. You know, like an M60A2's M162.

>>28060373
They were supplemented with plenty of things; AT-4, M72 and a shitload of Eryx they've got for cheap to be used in SHTF scenario.

Too bad they didn't opt for newer M3/M4,though. I'm like 6' 170 lbs and even I think the M2 as unwieldly. Pity those muslim gooks

>>28060727
Was that one on the first page of Google?

Tic = Troops in Contact.

>>28060825
i am just fucking with you mate, i did some boring CBRN shit that is why.
Yes, its the first page on google.

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>>28053843
I want a CG so bad. I know it comes with an inherent problem but it's a first world kind of problem.

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>>28060833
Enjoy the tear gas, you horrible cunt you.

>>28060486
Wear your earpro dipshit

>>28060853
Not once did that happen to me.

>>28060889
Earpro isn't exactly 100% if some one shoots a 7.62x51 next to your ear.

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>>28060876
We don't do the tear gas test without the mask so if you get gassed its because you failed to use the mask properly.

And you have to be really bad if you are going to fail with modern masks.

The OC test though... but the CBRN guys don't do that.

>>28060518
Sounds about right, we would take out The CG the second we had TIC. Good times

>>28060900
Blank 7.62 with earpro? Having used the g3 and mg3 for years I'd say yes, earpro works wonders.

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>>28060938
Have you ever held it in such a way that the muzzle is next to your ears?
No?

Then get fucked.

>>28060914
They don't brute force you any more?

>half a section in a shed
>one mask
>two tabs
>three minutes

>>28060965
Maybe they did that back when we had conscription but now they don't do it anymore. People don't actually sign a contract and they can quit when ever they want so if they started to do to much bullshit people would just quit.

>>28060889
>>28060938
I had my earpro on, without it my hearing loss would have been more severe. Good thing only my left ear is affected, my right ear is fine.

>>28060319
[citation needed]

>>28053843
My father was the heavy weapons guy in his national service and carried this

We've already phased them out for MATADORs

>>28061153
>We've already phased them out for MATADORs
Well that's dumb, they don't even fill the same function.

Can the MATADOR fire 6+ airburst grenades per minute on an enemy that is in cover?

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THE GOOSE!

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Shblahdow

>>28061216
We used them solely for anti tank, and the MATADOR was developed for that purpose as well as for combatting fortifications with a dual mode warhead that can be fired as HEAT or HESH

>>28061278
>We used them solely for anti tank,
You are doing it wrong.

Anti soft target and things like airdropped ''armor'' is what's it good for.

>>28060938
>next to your ears

Sound pressure and distance are related inverse square m8.

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Sweden was a pretty cool country, to bad it doesn't exist anymore.

RIP

>>28053843
i doubt it. the explosion looks pretty but the velocity can't meet an AT cannons & i havnt heard of it actually blowing up anything decent.

>>28060319
derp

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>>28063999
>the velocity can't meet an AT cannons & i havnt heard of it actually blowing up anything decent.

Do you think the penetration comes from its kinetic energy?

>>28064160
not entirely because of the velocity but it helps, why else would they build high velocity cannons (mostly around the same as rifles for HE rounds) that fire high explosive rounds.
Impact energy is partly related but separate, it has mostly to do with weight.

>>28054890
>Those fake bullet holes

>>28064230
uhm, no.
just no.

The velocity of an explosion is a LOT faster than the fastest speed of a projectile fired from a cannon. This is what forms the penetrator. The speed of the round itself is nowhere near as important as the diameter of the HEAT round.

The first cannons to fire HEAT were low velocity cannons.

High velocity cannons are useful because you can fire SABOT.

>>28064282
>That idiot standing behind the weapon

More gustav porn for you keks.

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>>28064602
lel jk here it is

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>>28060733

AT-4, M72 only for GGK use only. The Eryx already retired and put in reserves status and got replaced with Metis-M and RPG system.

What's the ammo loadout like? Just two of those little container things?

>>28060900
Can happen.

If you are the Loader (#2) and the gunner lets a round fly when your head is turned in the back blast direction it can pull all the snot out of your nose and/or give you a nose bleed.

>>28060536
>mest patetiska landet på jorden
Visst har sverige problem men jag skulle inte kalla det det mest patetiska landet.

Men fan vad strv-103 är fin.
Om du är sugen så kan du googla udes-20, ser ut som nåt från sci-fi.

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Saab/Bofors creates some top notch shit. Airburst ammo gives me such a massive boner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rldn9Hvzih4

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>>28066711

>>28065419
>metis-m
>LBE
>not supplying the grunts with superior molle carrier

Get your shit straight, man

>>28055429
a throw able bouncing betty. Holy shit.

>>28068192

That was from 2013

>>28053988
No, the direct translation is grenade rifle.

>>28064230
Do you really think that impact energy can be separate from mass(weight) or did you just fuck up that last sentence?

>>28060461
Things that never happened.

>>28060518
/k/anadian?

>>28068429
Sorry it was ment to >>28060486