What's the best defensive 9mm round in today's market?

>>27924646
Cz 75, I like M&Ps too.

>>27924653
I think you missed the question m8

>>27924654
round two, fight! I carry 135gr Hornandy Critical Duty.

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147 grain Federal HSTs

>>27924661
that looked like a Walther there for a moment in the thumbnail.

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Only thing a 9mm can defend is your virginity, get a man's gun.

>>27924682
says the noguns.

either 124gr +p HST's or 124gr +p Gold Dots

A few of the 147gr bullets seem to have inconsistent expansion on luckygunner's tests, although they penetrated very well due to that.

>>27924689
Says the virgin that carries a nine.

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>>27924661
This.... I currently run the +P version in my 92fs (pic related ) and love it. Would rather have the standard pressure loading but it's hard to come by.

>>27924682

>that feel when my G20 rounds have more energy at 100 yards than your .45 does at the muzzle
>10mm masterrayce

>>27924646
>.
Depends on the length of the barrel youre shooting out off

Hornady critical duty for full sized pistols and Critical defense for all the new short barrel pocket pistols

>>27924702
you haven't refuted to being no guns, as for my virginity I'll have you know I've had over 100 raids on women's bellies.

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>>27924682
>>27924714
Oh boy, Incoming caliber war. Man your shitposting stations gents.

>>27924714
you're from Juneau.

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>>27924682
>get a man's gun.
AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Get a gun that hurts when you shoot it.

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>>27924714
10mm is a respectable caliber used by respectable people, the same cannot be said of 9mm and the dandies that use it.
>>27924730
>you didn't dignify my memepost with a response!

>>27924742
That wasn't me

>>27924743
>Get a gun that hurts when you shoot it.
I like having nerves in my hands thank you.

>>27924743
>hurts
What a fucking pansy, I CC one of these every day.

>>27924752
fuck.

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>>27924764
Forgot pic, too busy fingering your girlfriend.

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Federal HST or Hornady Critical Duty. I like +P...

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>>27924777
>18C

>>27924646
Underwood +p+ 147gr gold dot.

>>27924646
Barnes TAC-XPD for 115-grain. The XPB is a great bullet.

Gold Dots for 124-grain.

>>27924737
What is going on here fucking lol.

>>27924777

>G18
>explain

>>27924804
Pretty decent photoshopping.

>>27924744
I'll just scream noguns.
NOGUNNNSSSSS!!!!

>>27924821
VIRGIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN

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Polycase/Ruger ARX

>"I talked to the owner of PolyCase at SHOT last year and came away very impressed. He had a photo of a hog taken with the 9mm ARX at 60 yards from a carbine – there was what looked like a 6″ X as the exit."
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The RIP cartridge has been known to be an exceptionally deadly round.

They're pretty much unsurvivable

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Cabela's has the Walther PPS for $369 on black friday. Should I get it or the S&W Shield?

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>>27924777
I must know how you acquired this beautiful mythical creature.

>>27924830
NNOOOGGUUUUNSSSSS!!!!

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>>27924813

My SWAT pistol. Stays In the gear locker until callouts/warrant services cause they say it's too scary for a Detective to carry daily. Get to play with it every Wednesday and Friday though...

>>27924857
VIIIIIIIIIRGIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN

>>27924867
NOOOOOOOOGGGUUUUUUUNNSSSSSS!!!!!

>>27924876
VIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRGIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN

>>27924859

Sick bolice load out

>>27924859
>cause they say it's too scary for a Detective to carry daily.
it's pretty much indistinguishable from other glocks except for the giggle switch.
>>27924880
>ahem
NOOOOOOOOOOGGGGGGUUUUUUUUUUUUUNSSSSSSS!!!!!

>>27924646
>semi-compact and fullsize pistols (3.8"+ barrel)
It's pretty much a 3-way tie between Federal HST, Hornady XTP, and anything loaded with the Barnes XPB. To go with a +p or not or the choice between 124gr supersonic or 147gr subsonic is personal preference, they all perform within 1-2% of each other on terminal ballistics.
>compact and subcompact pistols
Sadly, none of the fuckhuge-hollowpoint bullets like the XTP or HST feed well due to very steep feed ramps, so probably Barnes XPB 115gr or Hornady Critical Defense 115gr. Yes I know that the Critical Defense doesn't open as reliably as the other defensive rounds out there but feed reliability>expansion reliability, at least you can always poke more .355" holes in the badguy.

>>27924859
Those pants look comfy

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>>27924859
Nice, so do you feel full auto would be useful in a shtf scenario or would you just say fuck it and keep it on semi. As for if it's fun shooting it full auto I already know the answer.

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I carry Defense in my personal cc gun, and Duty in my work gun.

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>>27924921

sorry for small pic

>>27924903

Not very practical. We only have a few left in service still and they've said they aren't buying more. They aren't as reliable as the other duty sized Glocks.

>>27925008
But yeah, it's still really fun to flip over and cut loose with. I'm bad about flipping the switch accidentally when drawing from the Safariland Level 3 holster. I did it on the first shot of our last qualifying and rocked about 5 rounds from the 25yd. They were not all good hits. I could have probably held em all in had I realized, but it scared the shit outta me.

>>27924850
I love my PPS, it fits really well in my hands and is surprisingly comfortable to shoot.

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>>27924777
hey look a correct answer