Are there any Airforce JTACs on here? a few questions.
1. Are there JTAC officers? If so, can you apply and go to OCS with a shot at becoming a JTAC written in your contract?
2. What is the difference between a JTACs and TACP and Combat Controllers job? Forgive me for my ignorance, but it all seems so similar.
3. How does someone that is a JTAC join the SOF JTAC units that are part of 24th STS?
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don't think the chances are very good with OTS. It's hard enough to get in from ROTC or the Academy.
read up on the shadowspear forums.
here's the STO application, they talk a little bit about OTS.
1. ALO; Air Liaison Officer. It's the TACP officer equivalent. You have to serve as a regular officer first and then retrain.
2. JTAC is a certification. TACPs do the CAS calling for their attached Army/Marine ground units. CCT is SO-capable and can be JTACs, but they have to learn standard Air Traffic Control alongside the tower goblins and are able to coordinate air traffic beyond just calling CAS/Artillery.
3. By being shit-hot and/or knowing a guy.
So air liason officers entire job is to work TACP?
sorry, I just didnt think anyone was looking
Security forces are not special operations. Please don't inflate their airshit heads because their gucci gear doesn't match their shit tier tactics.
JTAC's are enlisted only. TACP is JTAC's plural assigned to the Army with an Air Liason Officer. From the Army side, all I can gather its like any other pipeline. Train good, get recommended, then try out for a higher tier unit in your pipeline.
http://www.airforce.com/careers/detail/tactical-air-control-party-officer/ I find it interesting that when you type in Air Liason Officer this is what you get. Does the Air liason officer do anything other than TACP/JTAC stuff?
>SOF security forces
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These guys are US Army Special Forces, not USAF. Hell, this photo is even on the recruitment brochures these days.
I miss M81.
Ermm.. kind of.
They're like the guys who would secure downed prototype aircraft or a UFO that crash landed, things like spy planes ect. Basically they show up when something spooky secret needs to be protected or a half assed airbase.
Regular SF is a joke I should know, but the people are good most of the time.
I'm not the same guy form a few posts up..
I can't tell you much about DAGRE but if it's anything like regular security forces, you ain't gonna see much action.
Regular SF and I hate to say it, is basically over trained security guards but I'm into LE so w/e.
Now TACP, those guys are some badass motherfuckers. We have a unit on base when they aren't playing in some sand pit I could tell you a little about them but as far as JTAC I've only seen a few guys training on base, you need some muscle for that.
No, I'm saying security forces is balls because they're sort of mall ninja tier, and they train in the asshole of the Air Force and inexhaustible well of blocked out shitty feels called Lackland
Well lest explain what they do, this is from stories and talking to them so take it for what it is.
I assume you already know what it stands for so basically these guys tag along with other branches, rangers, regular army, whatever.
They go in and fight with these guys and call in airstrikes directly to the AF so it basically simplified a lot of shit between branches.
I had a story but I can't remember most of it so I'm not going to butcher it but they fight alongside special forces and get to call in airstrikes which is pretty badass in my opinion.
I'm not really sure where that plays in.
I'd take it TACP would be more involved in a heavy combat zone with birds going all over the place but its not my MOS so that I could not tell you.
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My FSO gave us a class on fixed wing assets and stuff. Theres some legal issue as to who can authorize aircraft do to what. JTAC's have this authority because of an ALO on their team (officerhood gives them the legal authority) gives them this authority. This is so someone with a radio and shit training to control air assets and waste millions of dollars in logistics and munitions in bad calls for grids. Its kind of the same thing with medics issuing out meds and treatment. They have a set upper limit of what meds they can hand out (usually ibuprofen if they suck) because the medical authority comes from their units Physicians Assistant. If they were to fuck up, the blame goes back to the PA for shitty medical care.
ALO's can be attached to the Army at staff level to coordinate air between the Army and Airforce. Don't ask me how one becomes an ALO, I'm not familiar with air force commissioning/branching/follow on schools.
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We had JTAC's with every company in my battalion when we deployed, and from what I noticed, they had a few for each brigade that had deployed. Combat Controllers these days are still mostly aligned with the smu's as their main role is to basically serve as an air traffic controller with a JTAC certification. They're traditional role, as was the case in the early Iraq/Stan days was to stack air craft in their AO as there was no air traffic controllers working local airbases and stuff. Aircraft were given boxes to fly to and then make contact with the CC's to receive further guidance. Theres far more responsiblitly with a CC than there is a JTAC working within a TACP.
Also, I googled this.
Because it is the worst job in the Air Force.
The good ones usually get out. The bad ones stay and become leadership.