エロゲスレ/Untranslated VN General

>>17196335
Isn't eroge without ero just ge?

>>17196375
Tell that the people in the last thread

>>17196335
*Relevant ero with effort put into it isn't ruining eroge. Lazy ero added to meet a quota is.

Do we really have to discuss this?

>>17196375
Yep. The superior form of eroge. Almost all eroeroge are trash and only dumb moebuta like them.

>>17196401
That's a VN at least say VNs are better than eroge.
Or eroge should just become VNs.
Saying eroge without ero is superior just hurts your case.

Eroge is the cancer killing this thread.

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This game really hates taking screenshots. Aside from the the usual printscreen functions, this even clears your clipboard.

I think I'm at the part where shit's about to start since they've introduced that foreigner looking white-haired girl that was mentioned and it's nearing the tournament now. I'm liking the characters so far except maybe your macho club leader since he serves nothing more as a comedic relief to balance out the MC and his harem. And I do kind of feel bad for Asuka since she's just boring and it feels like the game is pushing you to go towards her (so far). I hope she gets better maybe on her route at least. And I can't help but remember Naegi-kun whenever I hear sensei's voice due to the same VA.

>>17196335
If we got rid of unnecessary ero and the whole route=heroine, it would be better.

>>17196463
Megumi Ogata will never voice a guy masturbating again and it makes me sad.

>>17196466
Get riding of both those would mean the end of moege.
Pretty much the only thing saving this medium.

>>17196463
>Aside from the the usual printscreen functions
What do you mean by this?

>>17196463
Just use sharex.

>>17196463
>And I do kind of feel bad for Asuka since she's just boring and it feels like the game is pushing you to go towards her (so far). I hope she gets better maybe on her route at least.
Don't worry, Asuka's route is amazing, she's objectively best girl.

>>17196505
>she's objectively best girl.
God no, she's an incredibly annoying mary sue through and through.

>>17196505
Did you mean Misaki?

But yes, route-wise, it's a hard decision for me which is better.

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>>17196483
Pressing the printscreen button doesn't save a screenshot to your clipboard. I've been using mostly alt printscreen just to take screenshots. Had to resort using Windows + printscreen for this game.

>>17196484
Oh neat, this is actually better than my alt printscreen and paint.

>>17196505
>>17196532
I dunno about routes yet but Misaki is my number one so far. I think I'll save Asuka and Misaki for last then.

If I were to play Aokana I'd probably just do Misaki & Asuka then get a save to see the epilogue. Any reason I shouldn't (like the other two routes being extremely good)? And are the relationships simply reset for the sequel Zwei or what?

>>17196657
Yeah I used to use pretty much the same thing until somebody here told me about shrarex too.

When you set it up you wanna
>Disable the mouse pointer
>Diable auto upload
>Change your prnt screen hotkey to capture region so you get just the game screen and not the windows border.

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Vns should have gameplay, like legit gameplay like phoenix wright, rance and so on. They won't sell as great else wise other than a select few.

>>17196793

I'd say small gameplay parts would already be fine and not all need them, though more could use them. Even if it's just like Danganronpa or even Shinsou Noise, having a little something to do isn't so bad. Or, heck, even Rewrite. A little map where you go to school or wherever on and can click on things to get silly comments or find hidden easter eggs can already be fun.
A VN is still a VN, and that's fine. Rance and whatnot aren't really VN... they are hybrids. Phoenix Wright is actually not even a hybrid. (Nor are all Rance games actually)

What's a good contemporary(as in not medieval fantasy, isekai or the like) game primarily or exclusively about animal girls/people? Not Wanko, because I'm technically reading (the translation of) it and not those games by Sayori because I don't like her art. Is "Cannonball" or whatever it's actual name is any good? I've seen art of it forever but never actually bothered to read it.

I don't like edgy things or melodrama.


>>17196793
>>17196884
Also what's a good(as in good gameplay) recent game like this? I liked the dice game in Romanesque and games that have VN segments possibly less than they have gameplay segments, but I think any sort of minigame is a nice touch. I pretty much agree with >>17196884 and was going to write something like that in my post before I refreshed. I like games with "world maps" you can click around.

>>17196793
I avoid games with legit gameplay most of the time cause it means I'm going to miss story scenes and the gameplay will likely not add much to the VN

>>17196884
>>17196955
The ones that have game play tend to be better accepted by non-vn fans and tend to do better worldwide and in general if they do release.
That is, if they are done by compotent devs and not sone half assed attempt.
Take a look at persona, or phoenix wright.
Sure you can call them hybrid vns but it still is a vn with their story or routes and many people may not even play it or get into it if it weren't for some form of interaction.

I personally was pretty much stumped by the amount of talking when I was first introduced to vns. However that game was phoenix wright and had parts where my choices affected the story and allowed me to progess.
That kept me hooked.

Sure there are exceptions to thus but gameplay is much more inviting.

>>17196970
Please don't start this.

>>17197016
Not to mention the amount of money they made.
Sure there are exceptions like nekopara and steins but generally gameplay brings in a larger audience.

>>17197016

There are so many components to this, it's not so easy. How many VNs could you make with the budget of Persona 5?

And then there's, again, VNs are VNs. Phoenix Wright isn't about telling a story. So if you wanna make a VN, you don't make a Phoenix Wright. Not even a Danganronpa, although that at least goes into the right direction. And not a Persona either. Persona 5 has for the most part a filler story to adapt to the fact that it's an rpg. The story started after you got all characters. If you look at comment about the game, this is very often criticized. It's common as well. Rpgs tend to have way worse stories than VNs.


That said, what's important is that you compare games with similar budget. Are rpg maker games really so much more popular than VNs on Steam? I don't think so.

>>17196970
>>17197066
I know you're just shitposting, but I'm not asking for translated games.

>>17197116
Stop responding you're only leading him on.

>>17197091
>Not about telling a story
What?
The story puts everything together. Nobody would play if it had no story.
Mysteries and interaction are all based around the story and pushed forward from the gameplay.

I know you guys are eager to show off now that you've learned your first hundred kanji, but either ignore him or recommend something untranslated.

>>17197227
What happened to this thread anyway? It was an easy place last I checked. Did the VNTS guys get jealous and come to shit it up or something?

Anyway is this a good game or not? https://vndb.org/v602

>>17197246
People started arguing, complaining and don't accept there are others that are different than you and have different interests.

Also if you want quality discussion try bringing it up. Don't expect others to always bring up topics.

>>17195977
That's more rape than hatesex, I was wondering if something consensual but still hate-filled exists. But that would actually require good writing.
Not to mention it'd defy the trope of women becoming slaves to the D the moment they experience it, which is unacceptabre.

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The fuck is this bullshit!?
That one guy here lied to me, you know who you are.
Saying girls don't have periods when in 2D.

>>17197426
>That art.
It's always like that with those games. Is there pegging in that game too?

>>17197386
How about Kei's first scene in Dies irae?

>>17197246
The usual drum. Influx of newcomers, other people pretending to be retards and actual retards thinking they're in good company. Now we constantly have
-Moege player vs. plotge and chuunige player conflict even when most people likely play both lighthearted and heavier games
-"Eroge and VNs could be so much more if they didn't have ero and were actual games" idiots
-Illiterate people not being able to read the title of the thread or use the catalog to find threads catering to their needs
-In general tangential meta discussion like the viagra guy just now
Deep inside I still want to believe it's just people pretending to be retarded. I already miss the time when we only had to deal with the Christine Love spammer at the start of every single thread.

Meant to bring this up before as people were talking about English used in Japanese VNs but didnt get the chance to.

https://youtu.be/M_dEaj0OOgw

Is Monmosu actually good or just for ero? The newest game in the series has a median of 90

>>17197437
Which ones have pegging? It's important.

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>>17197570
> you should expect worse later.

>>17197246
The immediate solution is to speak Japanese only.

>>17197642
Not allowed by the rules outside of /int/.

Seriously why don't you all just decide what posts you want and don't.
It'll do a lot more than just complaining about the quality.

>>17197666
Don't spam the thread with low quality questions and content like you've been doing the last while and go actually read. Slow threads are fine.

This is a really cool bgm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwo6nUGsYDY
What do you guys think of it?

>>17197694
The OST was about the only part I liked from it.

>>17197681
I've been asking what content you guys wanted three times in total. Twice in this thread and once in the last.
I get you're angry but I don't post here much so I'm not who you think I am.

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I've barely encountered typos so far, but this is just funny, I love scripting misses.

>>17197666

People always talked about moege and plotge for ages.

Jap questions were always asked, check the archives.

Just leave them and post and have fun, don't bother asking them.

>>17197706
>but I don't post here much
>I've been asking what content you guys wanted three times in total
Way to contradict yourself. You also flood with inane questions hourly that are very obvious from your writing style. Like the Beethoven/Mario shit, viagra etc. Seriously, calm it down. If you're lonely I'm sure you can find more appropriate outlets to fix that.

>>17197720
Don't forget to apply the patch. The bug you just posted is fixed in that IIRC.

>>17197738
>Three times is alot.
Wow.
I know this is a slow general and you may think it's the standard but it's not.

>>17197605
https://vndb.org/v426
https://vndb.org/v16511

>>17197738
I am using the patch, which is the funny part.

>>17197648
That's a shame.

>>17197793
Not really, it prevents the creation of even more closed-off communities and promotes communication across the site.

>>17196335
>pro-ero for eroge post gets deleted
>>17171354
>anti-ero for eroge stays up

clockwork

>>17197763
Thanks. Can't wait for their new game.

>>17197567
>10:08
disgusting

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There is literally nothing worse than those kind of retard characters. Seriously why the hell are they still exist.

>>17198688
>be several times hotter and overall better than mc
>still behave like a loser

>>17198706
I'm kind of tired of the 残念なイケメン archetype. Although sometimes it can be funny. There's also been a few games where the male friend seemed better than the protag in looks, personality, etc. yet the heroines inexplicably don't fall for him even though they'll fall for the protag just for being nice.

Semi-related, are there any games where your friend gets a girlfriend too?

>>17198805
Your friend gets a qt girlfriend in Hapymaher

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>>17198805
dokodono has a cool bro friend who gets a girlfriend in the early stages of the game so no worries about accidentally getting mentally ntr'd.

it's pretty neat actually, you go to each other for dating advice and have some bro moments about at. you can also bone his little sister.

>>17198706
He looks like a lesbian though....

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>>17198688
Appealing to target audience. I love me some good moege, but this stuff, especially 「リア充爆発しろ！」 grinds my gears like nothing else.

>>17198884
How's that game in general?
I like the art.

>>17199042
Odd, but in a good way.

It has a completely batshit retarded initial premise that becomes irrelevant relatively quickly, just serves as a "here's why you have a lineup of prospective young lady candidates." And then it handles the rest in a normal, ordinary way and it's never spoken of again.

Girls are cute and the one route I did was real nice, the drama was the most ordinary (in a good way) drama you could have for a new couple. It was just a nice girlfriend simulator.

And bro's a cool guy, him and his gf are nice to see together and I was rooting for them more than the MC for the first chapter or so.

I don't have anything special to say or any glowing recommendation but it was just that, a real nice girlfriend sim.

bro's imouto route was a little rough to get through actually since there's a thing that happens that was literally the exact same thing that happened to me with an ex

>>17198688
>>17199017
I hate that too. Shouldn't your friends be happy for you.

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>>17198805
i like MC's 親友 from 閉じたセカイのトリコロニー. he already has a girlfriend before the game starts and you never actually see her but he's a pretty chill dude

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>>17198805
Kakyuusei. Your bro Minoru will date Minatsu if you don't raise her affection point to a certain point at some date. This is not necessarily a bad thing because they dating together actually yields another CG to unlock; if you date Mizuho at amusement park at certain date after Minatsu and Minoru hooked up, you can meet them at there and have a chat with each other.
Kimi Ga Ita Kisetsu also have your bro date a heroine's friend that you can't get if you enter that heroine's route. Not much details though, just hints during the route here and there until the end where they openly state their relationship to MC.

I finished Shirokuma's route in hatsuyuki sakura. It was pretty short and pretty stupid, it felt like it was only there to fulfill a quota or something. If Nozomu's route is like this i'm skipping it.

>>17200363
Nozomu's presence didn't feel all that important but I'll be damned if Shirokuma wasn't the most worthless character I've seen in any game. She could have not been in the game at all and not a single thing would be lost. I say this as someone who generally loves lolis; it was pretty obvious they just wanted a loli in their game.

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>>17198805
Also Hajimete Doushi 2, MC's friend and his girlfriend acts as 'experienced and outgoing couple' in contrast to 'inexperienced and shy couple' dynamics that MC and his own girlfriend has, and the friend and his girlfriend helps MC by giving advice, finding out what MC's girlfriend likes for gift, etc

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Finished Muramasa's Eiyuu-hen. The ending scene was one of the most poignant moment I've read. The ending where Ichijou took up Muramasa to carry out her "justice" left a deep impression for me. While Kageaki was right that justice shouldn't be used as a cover for murder, I still think Ichijou was right to continue her crusade, especially considering that Ichijou realized the consequences of her action. From society's view point, justice does exists and the idea of 善悪相殺 that Kageaki tried to preach would be hard for the world to swallow.

I had a lot of fun reading this route, especially the fights. Honestly the only fight I would consider the boring so far is against Arahabaki in chapter 4. The rest were quite gripping and exciting to read, especially the Fudaraku fights. Doushin and Chouanzai were awesome.

I still remember the spine-tingling from this scene with Uzuki playing in the background. Simply a great way to wrap up this arc.

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>the twist in the Parfait Rea route
Well, that's one of the dumbest things I've read in a VN.

>>17200512
What happened?

>>17200486
What's up with that screenshot resolution? You play at that? The text is blurry.

>>17200606

>Rea has to/decides to return to the main Curio store which is at a 2-hour train distance from MC's home
>MC obviously gets mad at her but everything is relatively normal so far
>MC starts getting home late for a few nights and one morning Yui (Rea's sister) leaves a phone message to go out with MC, while Rea was in his room
>Yui gets flustered when Rea picks up the call and hangs up
>Rea starts to suspect an affair and gets flustered, MC gets distant
>Rea starts crying her eyes out every night and can't focus well on her job, her shop manager​ threatens with giving her the boot
>MC says she has something to talk to her, she thinks he's breaking up with her
>No, it's a fucking RUSE to make her realize that MC is more important to her than her job and convince her to not return to the main store
>Everyone, including her fucking sister who just had recently reconciled with Rea, was in on it

>>17200673
Wow, that's disgustingly manipulative.

>>17200673
that's brilliant, if they had done that in a certain 音楽寝取られ game it probably would have been GOTY

>>17200673
Well was she like autistically involved in her work or something, why did they set this up? why was he that mad?
i mean a two hour train ride is annoying but you can meet them on the weekends or something.

>>17200812
When responding to a post in spoiler tags can you also use spoiler tags please?

>>17200822
It doesn't spoil anything though.
If anything it may just confused people.

>>17197562
That was more of a mutual tsundere vibe than anything else. Sounds like he wants something more dramatic.

In otome domain
in hinata's route she almost gets raped and i played it again, doing a different route. I was worried she was going to get raped, but the protagonist still stops it as he would on her route.

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>>17201188
She's so adorable, I really like Chuunidere,
I don't know what I would've done, she still likes and has a crush on you from normally story progression.

Also I feel bad choosing other girls in the choices, she gets sad when I don't pick her...

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KKK spoilers

Well that was amazing. I never thought for a second that that was even possible, the idea that they could actually lose like that is just so inconceivable. Normally it would just be a difficult battle until they unleash their secret weapon and somehow win. Maybe someone important characters might die, but you always win in these kind of stories. And to kill off the main heroine like that? Basically this is nothing like any VN I've ever read before and changes everything.

I have literally no idea what's going to happen from here onwards, but whatever it is I'm looking forward to it immensely. This is the kind of unique, original storytelling I've always wanted in the medium.

>>17199869

He must've been really chill. I don't even remember him.

Golden Hour trial is out. This looks nice, I am sad it got delayed.

>>17201405
You can try the other games by the mother company in the meanwhile with the same artist. Himakoi and Ayahime are both good

>>17201405
How do you find out about these trials before they come out?

>>17200486
>Doushin and Chouanzai were awesome.
いかにも。

>>17201453
Not him, but there is a section for newly uploaded trials on the front page of EGS.

>>17201405
The download is so slow

>>17201622
Dling it on getchu's site finished in like 15 minutes.

>>17201405
Im playing it right now, its not bad but im not really that far. Im liking how theyre trying to make things feel natural.

Heroines and characters arent all part of some club and there isnt some convenient way for them to all meet, they feel like they have their own things going on. One of the heroines is already in a relationship and another heroine was someone you were a couple with during middle school. Tonewise if feels low key and not over the top.

I remember someone in the last thread saying the music isnt very good and I agree, a lot of the tracks feel out of place with the tone of the game. At least imo.

Is August's Yoake any good?

http://windmill.suki.jp/senkyo/result.html
>Best girl is a guy
anti-trap faggots BTFO

>>17201749
>http://windmill.suki.jp/senkyo/result.html

Are their heroines really THAT shit? Oh my god. That's some heck of a talent to have for an eroge company. So I guess that means I don't even have to bother with any of their games.
Hapiness was pretty meh already and if that trap is supposed to be the best they ever created... AND most of the heroines of that are still fairly high up, especially the main heroine of that game being THIRD even though she is the definition of bland, there's really little hope. Or this was just trolling. I hope it was just trolling. Good thing the whole "the only statistics you can trust are those you falsified yourself" exists. I'm sure you can apply this to this poll as well.

>>17201775
Memes win in the end, even if there were other girls that were better. It's how things work. Though I'm not sure if you're trolling like him or you're actually angry about an online poll...

>>17201775
HHG is legitimately very good. I wouldn't take popularity contests this seriously if I were you.

>>17201749
lol

What's wrong with EGS these days? It's almost impossible to access it even with Japanese proxy.

>>17201811
>angry

More like amused. They are literally selling their games based on the cuteness of girls. And this is the result. Makes ya think.

That said, the fact that Mrs. super bland is third is a pretty shit result. I can see the trap being a troll, but that girl?

>>17202165
the protagonist is actually on the front of the cover

>>17202165
>I can see the trap being a troll
Jun is still the most popular 'heroine' in happiness and has been for a long time, no need to troll.

>>17202208

Which is where I get back to my original post. I agree that Jun is the best character in Hapiness. But that's not because he's THAT awesome. It's more because the heroines are meh. And if those are highly ranked as well, that's a bad sign for me.

>>17202237
Their heroines are super bland in general, I read witch garden and the only one that stood out even a little was Ayano.

>>17201650
Actually I couldn't give any fuck about the other girls, Yuki is the star of this game. I am really looking forward to her route.

>>17202369
I really dislike how the writer can't seem to give a shit about more than one heroine in any given game, always the same.

>>17202381
So that was a writer thing? Because the other girls felt horribly like a complete filler.
guess they couldn't afford doing a low price game with two heroines.

>>17202407
Akane in himakoi, Kyoko in koiyori, I'm really tired of it, there's basically no point in doing other routes when only one has effort put into it and the rest are crap.

>>17202381
That's like most actually good games, having one clear thought out scenario. Bad writers try to balance everyone for no reason and in the end no route feels satisfying. Also additional routes are just added as an afterthought nowadays since you can't sell single heroine games just like you can't sell ero-less games (unless it's a low price title).

>>17202508
>That's like most actually good games
No, I'm sure you can't call a game where most of what's in it is bad good, trying to balance stuff even just a little works. Most actually good games have more than one route you liked reading.
>you can't sell single heroine games
Not an excuse, shit is shit, no matter the reason.

Is there a good place to get a jp winXP iso and product key to play VNs in?

>>17202515
Yoy don't need it just change your locale

Do you see untranslated eroge making it steam in the future?
I mean there's already rpg porn games there now with porn intact.

It might be nice as steam has some nice sales compared to dslite and other sites.

>>17203076
If you're not willing to buy the game at the original price just pirate it. The only reason to use steam otherwise is cheevos and cards, and the only people who would use it for that are genuine retards.

>>17203076
EOPs would buy them thinking it would be translated and then get their panties in a twist when it's not

>>17203102
>If you're not willing to buy the game at the original price just pirate it.
Why would you say that?
If you buy it, a portion goes to the devs.

Does micchi have a vndb?
I like his taste in games.

>love_equation_patch.zip (1.08GB)

How is that even possible? Does it include bonus stuff or what?

>>17203903
What game is it for? Kimi to Yumemishi had an ~1gb patch for version 1.10 iirc. Still didn't fix the problem of the text being invisible in game though (windows 8.1).

>>17203929
Nor how awfully optimized it was.

>>17203929
中二病な彼女の恋愛方程式

I'm only getting the patch because the skip function doesn't work properly. People say it's pretty prone to crashing though I haven't notice anything yet.

I'm still looking for the most nationalistic VN you've ever seen /jp/. Is there one?

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>>17204217
千の刃濤、桃花染の皇姫

NIPPON STRONK GET OUT WHITE PIGGU

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>>17204217
I dropped Daiteikoku because pre-patch it was horrible to play, but it seemed pretty Nippon banzai. China is led by an objectively evil motherfucker and they're the first nation you steamroll while America conspires against Japan and "forces" them into situation where they have no choice but to make the first strike (they'll still declare war if you don't commit nu-Pearl Harbor first). Accepting 帝's plan also makes everyone happy under Japanese rule and you supposedly don't get rebellions at all. It's pretty much a parody though (Germany is led by loli Hitler), and I don't know how later game plays out.

>>17204273
It was disgustingly nationalistic, especially how t was revealed that the super powerful occidental empire as created by a japanese resentful spirit to get revenge on japan, because foreigners can't even do that by themselves.
Also it's funny how it's A-OK and meaningful development when it's not-japan who uses a not-nuke.

Why didn't anyone post this?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gXYFlzyyMI8
Finally Noratoto 2 teaser. Man, I hope this will be funny as the first game and not just milking the title. They improved the art though.

>>17204636
>I hope this will be funny as the first game
As in not at all?

>>17204636
Im only playing it for nobuchina the other girls can fuck off.

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>>17204647
Anything written by Hato is guaranteed to be funny

>>17204647
The common route has a good comedy sense in it. They fucked up in the heroine routes though.

>>17204647
Blow it out your ass.

>>17204295
Funny how Yoakena was about anti-discrimination and understanding each other.

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Well I don't know if I can continue with this VN anymore. This choice is basically impossible to make. I'm gonna be putting it off all night.

>>17205035
The game seems to be practically pushing you to pick the top one.

>>17204822
Discrimination is only bad if they're cute girls. Anything else is fair game.

I've played and didn't need the patch even with skipping.
Supika is best girl.

>>17205630
Meant to quote
>>17203903

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>>17203903
There are patch notes right there.

Masada sucks.

What's as fun as baldr sky? Currently near the end of Baldr heart and it wasn't nearly as good. Characters weren't nearly as interesting, story was clearly lacking and even the combat wasn't as fun. Nerfing all weapons so comboing was harder was one thing, but how the combats are mostly just spam of mobs really made it boring. My expectation was probably too high, but
I was pretty excited for my first VN in like 2 years.

Scat-ji is garbage writer.

>>17205904
imho baldr force is as good as dive1, but may not feel like that since it shares a lot with sky, so it may not feel as refreshing

it's still good tho

>>17205913
I like his prose with wrting about art, talking about classical and historical japanese, and romance, but for normal plot he kinda sucks not to mention how shit the sex scenes are and how the quality of romance becomes abysmal and downright pathetic from it's high pedastal after the characters have sex for the first time.

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ヤバッ

>>17205966
Is this golden hour?

>>17205970
no

>>17205966
How does this game seem so far?

>>17205961
Futa sex scenes are good tho.

>>17205913
I wish he'd stick to doing more things like Subahibi. Shit like RH1 & 2 "It's my own Invention" and "Looking glass Insects" are some of my favorite experiences that I've had with eroge. I don't give a shit about this philosophy stuff that he's trying to do in Sakura no Uta. Sucks that he's even making a sequel for it too.

>>17206028
What did you like about ''it's my own invention'' and ''looking glass insects''? Not trying to shitting on you, just curious because i thought they were pretty bad, i liked RH2, that was the best part for me.

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Nozomu's route was a lot better than Shirokuma's. To be honest, I think I might have been ragging a bit too harshly on Shirokuma's route earlier. I thought that the route was over, but the epilogue was a bit longer than I expected and had a bunch of nice information and scenes. One scene that really stood out to me in Shirokuma's route was the scene where the guy was giving the speech to the students at the graduation. Nevertheless, I think Shirokuma still sucks as a character.

I think the game does a good job and making you get hyped for the true route, hopefully it lives up to the expectations.

>>17205950
I dunno if I will be able to enjoy baldr force's combat

>>17206058
>hopefully it lives up to the expectations.
It's a fucking mess.

>>17206047
I was a fan of the crazy/surreal vibe of it.

I found Takuji to be a great protagonist (probably one of my favorite protags of eroge in general), and this made reading It's my own Invention a blast for me. I love how the story absolutely pulled the rug from you from the start with that first delusion scene with Zakuro Starting the chapter off with that lets you know from the start that you're in for a ride, I love that shit. It's my own Invention managed to really make you feel like you were going crazy and were in Takuji's shoes. The time constantly jumping, the fact that you can't tell what's real from what's fake, the prolonged h-scenes all ended up giving this effect.

Looking glass Insects was great as I thought the scenes with Zakuro and Yuki at the beginning were really cute, one of my favorite scenes out of the entire game was the scene (both in RH1 and LGI) where Zakuro and Yuki go to the amusement park and then they go back and then he plays the piano I also liked the way that Zakuro starts to go insane at the end

>>17206067
Why wouldn't you? It's not that different from Sky, except that there's an annoying beep every time overheat goes on. That's about all I noticed as far as casual gameplay went.

I really liked the gameplay in Baldr Bullet and Force, Bullet even had that really cool Front Mission feel with the setting and the visuals. But I just couldn't care for the characters and plot as much as I did for Sky, Zero and Heart.

>>17206263
>didn't care for force characters
nigger.

>>17206275
I liked Hikaru. I initially really liked Liang too but her route as a whole bothered me because of all the shit they let Genha get away with in her route, even though I understand the circumstances

>>17197694
I love this game, and it's ost and mood, it's chiling, spooky, and the winter theme does wonders.

>>17205904

Maybe forgetting about your nostalgia would help, although that's pretty hard to do. So the next best thing is to simply not play anything Baldr and not to compare. So, pick your chuuni or whatever I guess.

>>17205904
Baldr Sky is the best video game, period. Don't go into everything expecting it to be as good and you should be fine. You can try other highly regarded gameplay VNs like VenusBlood Hypno or Rance.

Romeo is shit writer.

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Holy shit, that summer tournament was really great. The narration of the sport combined with the music. Looks like things will start to pick up from here on like the drama after seeing what happened in the tournament.

>>17204295
>It was disgustingly nationalistic
And also takes a shit to not-Japan nationalism (though mostly during Elza's screentime).

>>17205980
Yuki is really a good heroine. If you like high school love triangle, youth drama then Golden Hour is for you.

>>17207619
Elza speaking against not-japan is obviously antagonistic and 'wrong', especially considering how it ends.

>>17207619
I agree, it was glorious, it was really there that you start to see what a fantastic sport FC is.
By the way, the other routes don't matter but make sure you don't do Misaki's route before Asuka's.

>>17207653
>but make sure you don't do Misaki's route before Asuka's.
Why not? I made this post by the way but got no responses >>17196701

>>17207669
Because if you did you won't understand what's happening in Misaki's route and will be spoiled for Asuka's route. And skipping routes is heresy, especially in a VN this good.

Are there any games where young teens are exploring love and sexuality in a clumsy way?
Please note I'm mainly looking for 中学生 girls, not dfc loli. Unfortunately it seems that on vndb this tag only really exists as "high school" and is grouped together with senior high school which is what almost every game seems to be about and has 17-18 years old girls.
Also mainly looking for cute and deredere girls, as some of the ones that I found and looked promising at first ended up being tsundere oppai loli simulators.

>>17207918
はるのあしおと

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>>17208131
Finally have an excuse to post this

>>17208134

And that's why 42 is the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything.

>>17206498
>Baldr Sky is the best video game, period
The gameplay was fun, sure, but I liked Donkey Kong Country gameplay better than Baldr Sky. Now that's a good videogame.

>>17208174

I never got past the ice world as a kid. I was so sad, because I couldn't get to the end of the thrilling story. Many years later I finally found out that Donkey got the banana's back.

>>17208207
Dude spoilers.

>>17208207
I got stuck on the Bee boss. I remember I had to get my friend to beat it for me, but after that I didn't have any problems with the game.

>>17208134
生きたい
いきたい
行きたい（幻想卿に）
死にたい

>>17208338
Shoulda gone with
生きたい
いきたい
逝きたい

>>17196314
Looking for the doujin game [Silveredsteel]BadName if anyone has it. I found a baidu page for it but as far as I can tell it's just a review without a download (https://tieba.baidu.com/p/3439678763)

Anyone completed the 2nd route of Amayui and doesn't mind spoiling me what happens? Don't feel like going for a 2nd playthorough.

>>17208354
http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ016103.html

>>17207629
In context she was supposed to be wrong but every time she talked she brought arguments for democracy over monarchy while the rest wouldn't come up with any counter arguments and just go muh tradition fuck you. Surely you can find several things to criticize about democracy. I can. Besides she was supposed to be an antagonist but even though her means were questionable she had a legitimate belief in democracy as an ideal, unlike the rest of the not-Americans. In the end they don't come up with any legitimate stance for Japan to stay with their traditions other than lol magic. With this I mean I couldn't see the game trying to actually justify imperial monarchy.

>>17208694
Sorry I meant not-Japan.

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>>17208822
That is funny. Wasted a good pic for the screenshot thread though.

>tfw you find an EGS review that describes exactly how you feel about a certain VN, but words it better

>>17209272
>my opinion: it's shit
>EGS review: it's fucking shit

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>>17206498
>is the best video game
That's not GPM my dude

>>17209300
Gunparade's funamental mech combat and whatnot is terribly boring so it doesn't count despite how good the writing is

>>17209308
>terribly boring
If you're a casual, yes.

>>17209313
Boring is boring.

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>>17209344
Up to how many hours have you played? The combat is unanimously agreed to be made by geniuses.

It's bad if
1 - you're bad at video games
2 - you lack patience to learn
3 - you got your ass kicked
4 - you didn't understand the mechanics

So if any of those applies, the game will stop being boring when you git gud

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Well, looks like the common route ends at the summer tournament. I guess I can expect to finish this before the FD drops or at least in a week or so. This is probably one of the times where I'd prefer not to go to work.

>>17207653
From reading the common route, I do kind of understand why skipping Rika and Mashirp's route is okay since they don't get much, I don't know how to say, character development? Spotlight? But I should do them anyway due to my autism. Or better just to have something compare to the two superior routes you guys mostly recommend. Gonna go for Mashiro and Rika first.

>>17207669
Dude, the part I've just read tells what I assume where the conflict starts of said characters. And it's mostly Asuka and Misaki that really makes it visible that says "Go into our routes to find out why!". I'll shill it to you and read this now for the sport, if not for the characters. I'll read Mashiro's and Rika's route for you

>>17209363
Unanimously agreed by yourself?

Any good blogs dedicated to reviewing or at least showcasing older eroge?

>>17209544
nope
http://saralymangame.blog98.fc2.com/blog-entry-1170.html

also the general in 2ch is still going strong even though the game is old as f****

If you thought the combat was boring, you really just didn't play it enough to explore all the possibilities, and all the possible combinations.

If you try to achieve S-rank, you'll become a beast in the game.

also those fucking sound effects still make me hard

>>17210244
>85
>マニュアルに
>｢このゲームが面白いなら、それはゲームが面>白いのではなく、
>あなた自身が面白い人間であると言う事なのです。」
>って書いてあってむかついた。
Kek'd

>>17210244
The game is probably not for him, dude. It can be a picker if you're not patient enough. I still claim it's the best game ever made though. I still have yet to see a game with that depth and non-linearity.

Closest I've ever got was Romancing Saga 2, and it still did not reach GPM levels.

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>>17210252

>>17210252
>>17209363


Picked up

>>17210321
He shills the game and talks big about it but you'll get bored like most people

>>17210457
you sound like a salty scrub, lad no offense.

>>17210460
To be fair, that guy >>17209363 did start off by saying "it's only boring if you're a casual" and "it's only bad if you're bad at video games, lack patience, or didn't understand the game". That's what seems salty to me. Guy upset his precious gem was critiqued, can only rationalize it by insulting and demeaning others.

>>17210473
>>17210473
>gem was critiqued
it wasn't lad, saying you thought it was "boring" is not a critique, and it's very likely he understands the game is not for everyone

after all, according to the game's manual the game is great, if you're great, if you're boring then it's boring

whether that's true or not that's not for me to say

>>17210486
>saying you thought it was "boring" is not a critique
That's pretty pedantic of you and doesn't really change anything. If you have nothing to say, don't say anything.
And I'm sure he understands the game is not for everyone - to him, it's for smart people and not for dumb people.

>>17210473
No man, I just said it's boring or bad if you can't handle the game's learning curve, which is fine. For instance, there's that anime called Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon, which has a somewhat steep learning curve into the setting in order to enjoy it.

It's totally OK to hate its guts IMHO because having to learn a bunch of shit in order to enjoy it is not something people are used to these days, and doesn't mean good story telling either, but its fans will argue that it's good and you're just a casual.

Could be true, or you just couldn't be arsed with learning or having patience in learning all the stuff, whichever goes. For GPM it was probably the latter in your case but don't expect not get called a casual by fans because you couldn't go through the learning curve. It happens with all of these types of works of this, just fyi.

>>17206074
I just got to the part where it plays the second opening so far and it's fucking great, holy shit. I really don't want it to end. If the true route keeps up this quality this game might be one of my favorite VNs.

>>17210567
It had its faults for sure but due to the god tier sountrack and one of the best atmospheres I've seen, I can't help but love the game as a whole. Maybe I just have a hard on for games set in winter.

>>17209389
Gonna agree with >>17207653
I'd say skip the other two routes but don't let me stop you if you've already decided. Hell, even looking at the walkthrough tells you to do Misaki's last. But it won't matter once you go for the true end.

Man, wish they'd release more info about zwei. Maybe after Misaki's FD.

There were a couple I knew now it's just omochikaeri

>>17210567
It's my favourite VN, but the ending is kinda bullshit.

>>17210576
>>17210702
Also, checking the guide here: http://seiya-saiga.com/game/sagaplanets/hatuyuki.html What's with the two Aya endings? Is it like a seperate route or a bad end? Should I do that ending before going for the true one?

>>17211029
Don't worry you'll know what it is, just do the true route.
Just know that I fucking hate it with passion.
It ruined the game for me. Well the last section of the true route did that regardless but Ayas route hurt much more since she's best girl, and it didn't make sense.

>>17211086
>Ayas route hurt much more since she's best girl

Muh fellow individual of African descent.

>>17211086
being moebuta if suffering

>>17211107
Don't get me wrong it's probably my fav eroge but I hate the ending.

>>17211330
You must love the rest of it a ton to be able to say the ending ruined the game for you and have it still be one of your favorites.

>>17211363

It's actually funny how many bad endings you'll find in Japanese media. I haven't played that game, but I feel that if you can't handle bad final parts, you should look elsewhere.
I myself got used to it with rpgs, especially tri-ace ones, pretty quickly and anime then nailed it in so much, that I don't even think much about bad endings anymore. So, for example, the 3 minutes of a true ending of Atelier Totori being the worst shit ever isn't having a major influence over my overall game-experience.

It helps with VN as well. It really does. Although it shouldn't be that bad on average compared to anime at least.

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I hate this cat

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>>17211611

Every story needs this one. Give the cat some fish.

In rewrite why doesn't the mc use his power to rewrite the negative effects of his own power?
I know he uses something likes make himself a little bit faster, but can't he do something bigger like rewrite his own power?
Make his incremental increases to his strength, speed or endurance larger or make himself smarter when fighting Kagiri?
There's like a millions and one things he could do.

>>17211698
Maybe if you read the game instead of talking from your anime experience you'd know.

>>17211107
Self-inflicted suffering for themselves, and regular suffering for everyone else.

>>17211698
That topic is explained multiple times during the VN and from different points of view in all the routes. Pretty much, the changes have as consequence an unintended body collateral reaction and that's why everybody tells him to avoid using his rewrite power. Chihaya route is very much dedicated to master his power.

>>17211807
Yes i know that,
that was in the first line I said, 'to remove the negative effects'.

My question was why doesn't he use that power to change stuff about him, to make it so he won't be affected by the negative effects.

Like if a genie gave you two wishes but each wish would cut your life in half. You'd ask that you were unaffected by the negative consequemces of the wishes then make your second wish.

So I'm saying why didn't the mc use his rewrite power on himself to make it so he wasn't affected by the negative effects of using his powers. Or use his ability to rewrite his rewrite power so it doesn't have negative effects on him .

I'm actually enjoying KKK more than Dies Irae so far, it has a really unique and interesting setting and narrative structure. The grand invasion across the entire of re-imagined Japan and the blending of elements of epic fantasy and the historical Japanese shogunates is handled really well. And having a party of main characters that the viewpoint switches between fairly evenly is pretty common in other media but unusual in a VN, it makes for quite a fresh experience.

It helps that you can work off the character development from Dies, so you have a cast already built up instead of having to introduce everything from scratch. And I really like Rindou, she's a fantastic character.

Obviously it's too early for me to say which is better though, it depends on where it goes from here.

>>17211838
>>17211698
I mean if they didn't really address this, it seems like a plothole, really.

If you can change anything about your body but it would have consequences on your body why not change you body so that it's immune to consequences.

This is basically asking the genie for an infinite amount of wishes really. If they say don't say no, go for it.

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So yeah I've been trying the Hatsuon trial.
It's decent, but doesn't draw me in.
It's large and varried cast is refreshing, funny, has a nice UI, above average OST, the art was the main reason I got it, however some things aren't too pretty and look odd. It's a mystery game with superpowers.

My main problems are the sound quality, I noticed some static and breaking but very slight and almost unnoticeable.
The chibi CGs are waste and used for things that the regular sprites could do better and other events would do better with it.
Also the heroines. They're all kind and sweet but they feel the same.

>Romacable, kind and sweet loli who's kinda mysterious. Like Supika from Love equation. She seems like the most interesting character, and talks about another world.
>Romacable, kind and sweet transfer student who's kinda mysterious and has more information than she let's on. Like Tamaki from Hatsuyuki sakura.
>Romacable kind sweet club leader who's a bit fendomy and the 'smart girl'. Best main heroine.
>Romacable kind sweet student councel president who's passionate about her work and a bit overbearing. Worst girl.
They feel so similar which is a shame because the others girls are different but not romancable.
>Your little sister who's the butt of the joke but loves you. She's the best girl in the game.
>A genki classmate who wants a bf.
>A crazed newspaper club president.
>A pasionate otaku teacher.
>A soft spoken normal girl who loves the tuba.

I feel somewhat let down it feels like it tried to be leyline but didn't quite go as far and feels like a mix with regular moege nichijou.

I feel like dropping it, it's not bad but doesn't really draw me in. My mind would probably change if the heroines were a bit different.

>>17211941
my bad
*haruon

What are the best programs to use for machine translations?

>>17212313

brain.exe

You need to program it yourself.

>>17212313
You can use text hookers. ITA, TA.
I used it when i started out learning Japanese a couple of years back.
It takes up quite a bit of the screen but I heard chiitrans lite puts it on the game window so you could try that.
I don't know if these things work on new games though.
I haven't used them years.

>>17212463
Not that guy, but newer games more often use a custom engine instead of everything using 3-4 engines like 10 years ago, and often hookers can't handle them automatically.

>>17212313
https://pastebin.com/raw/DgZ84qwk

Wow /jp/ sure is helpful. Hopefully we'll get lots of people using machine translations to come discuss all the visual novels they ran through the grinder.

>>17212545
*high fives*

>>17212313
AGTH with fhc's dictionary

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>>17212313
Try learning japanese, it's really not that hard.

I must have played Damekoi from start to finish at least 3 times now. I'm always drawn to Maruto's games for some reason. The man has a way with words and his scenario planning is top-notch. He's probably my favorite writer (Jackson could have taken the spot but his work output is depressing.)

On that note, who's your favorite eroge writer?

>>17212915
落花生

>>17212915
Scaji. I really tried liking Maruto, but I hated both White Album and Saekano. I didn't give Damekoi and Parfait a try yet.

>>17212915
Have you read Konnyaku and Mama Love too?

My answer is pretty boring, Sca-ji (for scenario), ごぉ (for writing style and characters), Takehaya (for pure sincerity and soul) and Romeo (everything).

My opinion on scaji is that when he's good he's really good, and when he's boring he's really boring. And he can go from one to the other in minutes.

>>17212915
The only Maruto work I've read completely was Chocolat and I liked it fine (haven't got around to Parfait) but I read about an hour of Konnyaku and I haven't picked it up since. I don't know how to describe it but the protagonist was probably one of the most annoying ones I've ever read. I know that with WA2 the protag is purposely made to have problems (from what I've heard, haven't read it myself) but I'm not sure if the Konnyaku one is purposely bad and he changes throughout the story or if he's supposed to be some slick guy that you love. I do want to read Damekoi but ever since I've been a bit turned off from Maruto stuff.

>>17212915
Ryukishi07
Doten Meikai

I don't get the hype for scaji, I dropped ikki and SnU isn't that amazing.
Haven't played subahibi, is that the reason you guys love it?

>>17213106
Considering your "comprehension" of Sakuuta a few threads back that's no surprise.

>>17213114
Who?

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Finally done with suisou ginka no istoria.
Common route+true end are fantastic and kept me hooked from the beginning to the end. Great cast, engrossing developments and it was interesting all the way through, extremely happy with them, particularly the last chapter with the battle against Kureha. Also had a 10/10 bad end, legit depressing.
Side routes, however, where pretty crap and extremely short excuses for porn, only good parts was the common chapters for Sayo/Kukuri.
Kurkuri was best girl overall, even if she wasn't the most fuckable like Kureha was and I want to believe pic related being the last CG means they're in a proper relationship considering she's the only one who gets one in the epilogue .
So yeah, barring some crap short routes and some typos and bugs (luckily the true end had almost none compared to the Yuura branch), excellent game, at least for me.

>>17213164
Glad you liked it. I dunno why they don't forcibly chain a fucking editor/proofreader to the writer because all of his recent stuff has been great but riddled with typos and shameful engine bugs like forgetting to close tags on voiced lines or dumb shit like that. C'mon guys, you're better than this.

Agreed with you on best girl, no idea why they pushed Sayo so hard when she was clearly out of her league.

>>17213164
>Side routes, however, where pretty crap and extremely short excuses for porn
Ero and heroine routes, once again, proven to be holding back eroge.

Jokes aside, sounds good. Do you like it more than Kamimaho?

>>17213198
Wouldn't that just be VNs then?

>>17213191
>when she was clearly out of her league.
In my opinion, because their relationship is one of the more interesting parts of the VN, it's absolutely fucked up and unhealthy on several levels an every time you learn something new about it, it just keeps getting worse and worse, which I absolutely loved, it really nails why they would never work together as a couple.
She also surprised me in that I wasn't expecting her to pull a I was pretending to be more damaged and broken than I actually was just so you could stay by my side more. From Eishi's point of view you never doubt it, so his narration was spot on in that regard.

>>17213198
Could never finish it, I enjoyed some parts, the Kisaki thing was interesting and I liked both her and Kanata, but never finished it. I blame it on being unable to stand Yoruko, her fucking voice, and Rio, so I did Kisaki's end moved on.

>>17213114
I'm assuming this was meant for me, yeah I didn't get that part since I overlooked it.
So what?
It's not that big of deal.
I don't get what seems to be your personal vendetta against me.
It's just a game.

>>17213288
Why do you respond twice to the same post?

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Deciding what to read next can sometimes so hard. I should probably just go with random.org. Or post final number.

what are some not too long (less than 15 hours) vns with crazy stuff happening? Something like fushigi densha, aoiro rinne, tsui no sora.

>>17213309
Conboku, funny, some good routes and a really satisfying true one. Also has Maho being amazing.

>>17213309
Do hananono or gensou.
>>17213312
ChronoBox is about 15 hours and fits that

>>17213299
And I'm telling you, its not me.
I like Sakura No Uta, ikkijoi and SubaHibi and I'm also asking you why you seem to have a vendetta against me.

Are you upset that I didn't understand what was going on?
I didn't pay attention, it happens, I'm sorry if that made you upset. I don't kniw why you would be.
Were you the one I told to fuck off?
If so, I'm sorry that I hurt your feelings.
Once again, I don't see the reason for animosity.

>>17213106
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4qZPGiPUzV8
One of the most beautiful scene I have seen in my entire life. The full game is even more amazing. Scaji is a genius.

>>17212915
Doten Meikai

Maruto is great but he can't write routes imo.

>>17213312
Kusarihime

>>17213312
Shoin
Sayooshi
Jisatsu no Tame no 101 no Houhou
Shizuku

>>17213395
>>17213095

The only works written by him that I've played were Biniku no Kaori and Ningen Debris. Didn't really enjoy Debris. Biniku is criminally underrated however. The way its heroines were depicted is very realistic, especially Saya and Kaori.

>>17213317

For better or worse, this really feels like I'm reading Akatsuki no Goei again. I guess to an extend that was to be expected, but the supporting male characters quite easily reminded me of the two supporting ones in AnG.

>>17213198
Not him but while I liked Kamimaho I got bored in several parts, its pacing is much slower. Istoria is much more stimulating, but also emotionally taxing.

>>17213390
I feel like I'm gonna get shit for this but it seems kinda pretentious.

I mean sure if you stand on the edge of the universe and you constantly move with universe in order to stay on the edge from its rapid expansion.
You might be able to see over the edge, you may even see something if light had reached there but that doesn't give you its limits or change anything about you.

You don't become the universe or have concepts like infinity all of a sudden. That is a big stretch.
Sure, suppose you managed to travel faster than the universe to outspeed it's expansion in that sense you surpassed the universe's expansion. So then what? You just beat it, aren't a concept of infinity you aren't the universe. Why are you comparing yourself? You then use that reasoning to ask what everybody else is, i mean they are in the univers thst you surpassed.

Still I guess I lack a poetic sense so feel free to ignore this.

>>17213707
Imagine being autistic.

>>17213602
Be happy it doesn't shit the bed every single route at least.

>>17213707
you're overthinking it, it's a reference to wittgenstein. "the limits of my language are the limits of the world" some shit like that

>>17213477
Boku no Kanojo is his masterpiece.

>>17213312
Chronobox. It gets crazier with each passing hour.

>>17213826
I tried that and the first few hours were so boring I just skipped through it. Didn't really seem that interesting, it's just a NTR story and the protag/main heroine have no appeal at all. Still interested in checking out his other stuff though, specifically Kawarazaki 2 looks very good.

>>17213848
I'm about halfway(?)-ish(?) judging by the number of girls and can attest to this, it's been a wild ride so far.

What are some nukige with good scenario?

>>17213973
貸し出し彼女、志織の“ネトラセ”報告

MC's best friend even ends up with a girlfriend which i know is important to some anons here

>>17213909
I'm nearing the end. and honestly I thought the writer would slap a deus ex machina at my face, but somehow it's seems he has a kinda good grasp of the plot and things are going smoothly towards the end. He is actually giving an explanation of the fucked up things that are happening and even explain some foreshadowed stuff he mentioned before.
The most thing I loved about this game is the B-style Hollywood horror movie feel that some parts have, the game keeps changing from a horror to a psychological thriller a lot. This game is indeed a wild ride.

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>>17213973
Kind've a tricky question, do you mean good scenario as in divorced from the nukige (kind of like H-scenes in dies irae) or a good scenario tied inexorably to the nukige (like black-cyc stuff or like Evenicle)? Do you mean good as in deep and profound, as one would call the writing of a "good novel", or as in entertaining and popcorny, like one would call a "good moege" or some such? Lots of ways to interpret that question and perhaps not so many answers.

I recommend Chii-chan, however, as an answer to "an entertainy, popcorny scenario tied inexorably to the porn".

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>>17214025
>I'm nearing the end. and honestly I thought the writer would slap a deus ex machina at my face, but somehow it's seems he has a kinda good grasp of the plot and things are going smoothly towards the end. He is actually giving an explanation of the fucked up things that are happening and even explain some foreshadowed stuff he mentioned before.
yes yes YES thank god, that was the one thing I've been afraid of this whole time, that they'll pull something like OwaSekai did and just have crazy bullshit happen for the sole purpose of crazy bullshit.

I habitually read about 8 layers into every line for everything that isn't a moege or a popcorn flick so the sheer amount of overthinking material they're giving me is lovely. Been ages since I read some good denpa.

also I want Shie-san to step on me, but, well...

>>17214062
I forgot to mention something important anon, did you play the trials before the main game? If you didn't, play them now. They contain two routes (Shie and Niwaka) that are not included in the main (they will explain why in the main game).
The two routes are basically just a fan service, with a two H-scene for each girl.
You can find the trial as a patch in a folder named Secert where installed the game.

Also good taste, Shie is my favorite girl too, her voice is pure sex for me. I was despaired when I found out she didn't have her full route in the main game.

>>17214124
Oh fuck, thanks for mentioning that, I had no idea. I tried to go in as blind as possible to not have any expectations about it but as you can expect I also missed that part. I would've probably despaired pretty hard also.

>Niwakawa
Is there any reason to read it if I don't like her? Like, plot-wise. She's a huge dork and is way more bully material than date material.

>>17214043
Just good as in "makes me want to read the text instead of skipping". Not looking for anything deep, but it should have some kind of unique factor. A lot of the usual set ups / excuses for the sex to happen are just so mind numbingly boring. Preferably <10h. Natsu no Kusari is a good example

>>17214150
> Is there any reason to read it if I don't like her?
If you are interested in the reason why she is aiming to be a delinquent then read it.

>>17214180
Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine, I guess. Thanks though.

>>17213874
Yeah I've heard Ningen Debris and Biniku no Kaori talked about more as adult relationship drama stuff (as in, you could enjoy it even if you didn't specifically have an NTR fetish) and Boku no Kanojo in the same category, but I played it for a bit and it literally seemed just like a NTR nukige. Maybe with not as retarded a story as usual and pretty great art, but still.
I don't know if I'd say I have a thing for NTR, I'm able to fap to it but there's not very many things I'm not able to, I don't specifically seek it out. So it's not like it being an NTR nukige is inherently a bad thing to me, it's just that I was expecting something else. I think I only read the 1st of the 3 stories so maybe it was different later but it really didn't seem like something worth playing if you weren't there 100% to just fap.

I still want to read Ningen Debris and Biniku no Kaori though. I don't know how Maro no Kanja is supposed to be compared to those but either way it seems a bit too weird for me.

>>17214043
>"an entertainy, popcorny scenario tied inexorably to the porn".

Those are the best. I hate it when the ero feels tacked on instead of being an integral part of the story and vice versa.

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>>17214223
Later elf titles are unique. I can't really explain it but they do everything to be as little moe as possible while still being hot as fuck. Pretty dense atmosphere I haven't found in any other eroge so far.

Except maybe 麻呂の患者 but that gets a free pass from me because Maro is a bad ass protag and the relationship with Sakimi was pretty cute. Too bad part 3 was such a turd.

>>17214309
How does he support himself working as a full-time mime?

>>17214223
Yeah same, I'm not really into NTR but I don't dislike it either. I am M however, so anything degrading is fine (which NTR usually is). I do want to check out everything else by him if only for the fact that this kind of stuff written by a capable author is so rare nowadays. Maro looks more interesting than the original Gatenkei to me too, plus it's in three short parts so I might actually get through it this time. Though I'll probably try Biniku first. Funny story but I frequently see people rank Biniku next to things like Muramasa and WA2 on their EGS lists in the 90+ range. Always interesting to see how people evaluate massively different games.

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>>17214315
He works as a back alley gynecologist because he likes to see snatches.

>mime

He's おじゃる系 you uncultured swine.

>>17214223
If you play through the full thing it's at least as good of an "adult relationship drama" as his other games. Which is probably the best way to describe them. Even Maro, though it's got some other stuff in it too

>>17214309
>>17214344
I never understood this 麻呂 meme.
Do people actually do this?

>>17215036
Maybe this will help you understand.
>I never understood this pirate meme.
>Do people actually do this? (wear eyepatches, go arrrgh, quest for plunder, etc)

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Maroro is best mabro.

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>>17215036
>Do people actually do this?

You mean running around like this in real life? No. I think it's popular with people who still know bakatono since his character is pretty much based on it.

Have anyone here a link for 神事双劇カーニバル ?

>>17214309
>Too bad part 3 was such a turd.
What was bad about it? I haven't played the series but I'm just curious.

>>17215063
The NTR felt way more forced, like in your typical bargain bin nukige. They ruined the buildup imo. Also, I didn't like how the relationship between the main heroine and the protag was concluded. They introduced a new character out of fucking nowhere just to give it a shitty turn. The sex scenes are still pretty hot though.

I think the game just happened out of obligation since they had to finish the story somehow and knew they have to fold after it.

>>17215059
No.

>>17215043
Pirates are cool. I don't think even Japan sees maros as cool, they're the butt of jokes usually.

>>17215174
You're missing the point, it's not about them being cool...

So is Silkys' Plus basically reincarnated elf? I remember reading most of elf's staff don't want to make NTR titles anymore and migrated to Silkys' Plus instead.

>>17215258
Can't be elf without Hiruta Masato.

>>17213390
If only the plot didn't shoot itself in the head with SoL summer bullshit it would've been good. Atleast Mamoru was worth it.

>>17216183
lol

Alright, so I finished Hatsuyuki Sakura. Thinking back on it, the VN really did have a lot of flaws, but there are some things that the game managed to do really well. The graduation theme and setting was one that I really liked.

The true route was really good in the way that it tied some things up full circle. I really loved how the whole Sakura emphasizing on holding Hatsuyuki's hand actually had a point to why it happened that way within the story. I may be overexagerating it because I just finished the game, but fuck me, man, the game really made me feel emotions. Maybe it's because I've never played any Key VNs or any nakige in general, but I found myself tearing up at the end. Maybe I'm just a faggot that easily tears up at sad BGMs and cheap tear-jerking narration. Also, Hatsuyuki and Sakura's relationship was one of my favorite parts of the game. I couldn't really get tired of hearing their banter, they were a really great couple at least to me.

To be honest, in an "objective" standpoint, I don't think the game is that great, but it's a game I enjoyed the shit out of, in the long run.

>>17216270
Did you do aya's end?

>>17216481
Im asking since its optional like hatsuyuki's foodi

>>17216543
*Food end

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I'm playing Hatsukoi*syndrome, and I have to say I'm impressed.

I really like this game, I didn't expect to, I thought it was your typical moege.
It delves into what love is while at the same time not going overboard and gives you a well done story involving 3 people and love.

The beginning has the MC confess to his kouhai who he fell for under a sakura tree, and the story starts with him trying to get rid of a watch that ties himself to his heartbreak.
He feels the best place is to bury it where he confessed 6 years ago.
As he goes there he notices a mysterious girl who he talks with and asks if he would like to fall in love. He replies no.
Eventually it turns to him finding his old crush who turned out to be a witch and this new girl is her friend and a witch's apprentice, who wants to fall in love with him only to experience heartbreak. By experiencing heartbreak she can become a witch.

The game turns to her trying to fall in love with the mc and misunderstanding and slowly understanding love. And how painful it can be and that it may not be worth it, how different people fall in love, love at first site etc.
The MC and kouhai also slowly have conversations about what happened with them as the story progresses and it turns into an interesting love triangle.
I don't if she'll leave him when she falls in love like his kouhai did or stay, its interesting.

>>17216954
Sounds really boring.

>>17217042

It mostly is. They also botched the love-triangle formula, which didn't help. Although for most it's probably more important who they like more in those, so it's gonna be 50/50.

>>17215059
Did you try subeki, anime sharing or nyaa?

>>17217190
I've found it already. Thanks

Other than akikuru are there any games that go into maths and science?

Like maybe discuss numbers as concepts rather actually existing.
The twin paradox used to explain disparities in ages of a space traveller to his wife. And so on.

I guess VLR maybe fits the bill, but was wondering if there were others.

An hour into Chronobox and there's already two H-scenes. No interesting plot developments yet either to justify it. Into the drop pile it goes.

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>>17217644
>play eroge
>has ero
>this is unexpected and a bad thing

So what's the flavor of the month? I'm mostly just seeing people reading old stuff in this thread (as usual)

>>17217909
Chronobox, crazy shit. This month will suck aside from maybe tantei seven which will be far too long to be worth it.

>>17217909

Last month? People mostly played Amayui, and then there was Newton.

This month? Nothing, but it's not out yet anyway.

>>17217909
The "usual" is people only talking about new releases. This place needs more old discussion.

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>>17217932

Well all we can really do is post screens and impressions. If nobody bites, that's that. I usually try to do this myself, but you can't expect people to know all older games.

>>17217909
I really liked the tantei seven trial and hatsukoi syndrome,.
Also newton seemed cool

I'm currently reading Senshinkan, not far in, just 第二話 when the shit starts getting real, but so far so good, makes me feel the Masada goodness.

Still on the final chapter of Chronobox. And after a certain twist, I can say pretty much this game has overcame Chaos;Child for me. Man, at this poing I want Moogy to play this and spread it, Chronoblx is too much to just die as a monthly nukige release.

>>17216481
I actually didn't. To be honest I'm pretty satisfied with how the true ending turned out, so I don't really feel like going back and playing it either. Maybe if I ever re-read it though.

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>>17218218
The cartel already played it and gave it terrible scores. It's nowhere near C;C (nor does that comparison make any sense in the first place).

>>17218218
I'm intrigued. But also heard in this thread (or was it the last) that it's basically endless H-scenes. Did that detract from your enjoyment much?

>>17218243
At least it was exciting, C;C didn't even manage that without doing worse versions of C;H scenes.

>>17218248
Good joke.

>>17218243
>It's nowhere near C;C (nor does that comparison make any sense in the first place).
The comparison makes sense. I don't know if you played Chronobox or not, if you didn't just go and play it. Of course I still think C;C has the better writing, and I still think it would be hard for Chronobox to surpass C;C's chapters 9-11 and true ending. But who knows? Chronobox started as a fun nukige denpa game and now I am comparing it to C;C. The game is surpassing my expectation by every passing hour. Maybe it will surpass C;C for real when I reach the ending credits.

>>17218246
I was bothered by the H scenes at the start but soon enough I realized that sex and sexual desires is a huge heme in the game. The H-scenes weren't by any means romantic, they pulled out the heroines's madness through sex.

>>17218246
The porn starts getting interesting after the third girl and they start doing weird/spooky shit with the scenes. As someone who habitually ctrls through h-scenes, I've been reading through all of them to get that sweet sweet dose of crazy.

Though to be fair some of them are just amusingly over-the-top bad porn dialogue. But like other anon said, to emphasize the crazy.

>>17218237
Aya's ending is absolute bullshit.
If you wanna feel bad try that.

>>17218243
Is this thread is 100% Moogy cartel-free? I don't want their opinions in here.

>>17218483
Because your opinion is better?

>>17218483
Yeah, don't worry, Umineko is a kamige.

>>17218489
Because it'd be preferable if people posted about games they actually played rather than parroting e-celebs. Fuck, the one guy's argument was basically "it's nowhere near C;C because these guys said so".

>>17218521
It's not really different from parroting egs
Not everyone has the time to read everything that is out

>>17217963
How's conboku? I heard there's pretty good MC-heroine banter and that stuff is right up my alley.

>>17218618

I'm only like 100kb in, after that one anon recommended it first. So far I can only say it's pretty similar to Akatsuki no Goei, as far as style goes. (especially because of the MC I guess?)

>>17218618
moogy likes it so it's probably shit

>>17218618
I thought it was good, good comedy, solid banter, unlike akagoei the endings aren't shit for the most part and the MC is solid and the true route is all about him, which is a huge plus.

>>17218552
>It's not really different from parroting egs
I haven't really seen anyone here parrot EGS without a grain of salt, on the contrary I remember plenty of posts laughing at the idiocy of EGS at times like Asairo's reviews complaining about the game being Hiyo focused or one review scoring Aqua After low because of its ending. Even when people take EGS into account it seems to be more guidance giving than unquestionably good advice.

Unlike select few e-celebs (especially those who seem to be famous among EOPs due to translations, I wonder if there's a correlation here) whose opinions supposedly are so much more valid because of reasons? Fuck, I even went to double check this case and apparently moogy himself hadn't even scored the game, and the game has scores all over the place, both high and low and leaning on former. You're parroting opinion of an e-celeb who is parroting select literal whos, possibly his own inside circle because I have no idea who those three are supposed to be, and in this case their numeric scores only rather than actual full blown comments or reviews.

Surely you can see how much a huge fucking tool you look like?