/a/, /tv/, /co/ did this and /his/, /v/, /tg/ are doing

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Like this?

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>>17085540
Exactly!
Here's /a/ chart for reference

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>>17085544
/his/

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>>17085553
uh that was /co/ I'm stupid
Here's /his/

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>>17085559
/tv/

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>>17085561
/v/

We could just change the color and start one for jp

Sure

Bottom left is daiyousei, bottom right is watatsukis, top right is sariel, top left is shinki

what color would be good?
Purple?

>>17085540
you cant genuinely believe Mokou deserves her horrible fate by acting on an impulse as a young kid, especially when compared to some of the rest of the cast. shes 50 deserved at best. the curse of Hourai is way disproportionate to the crime

>>17085570
junko is way too far right. fucking /v/

>>17085666
But she's also an edgelord murderer

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>>17085597
how about this to start

>>17085464
/v/'s was awful, and /co/'s was mediocre.

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>>17085720
Fixed your pics

the grid is too small, filling the thing up with white-noise garbage. make it 10x10.

>>17085702
And we're off to an awful start.

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>>17085732
Sariel pic was awful
>>17085737
what should we put then

>>17085737
What's wrong?

>>17085752
Sariel doesn't have enough character traits to deserve jack shit, nor did she suffer all that much.
Shinki sent tourists, the worst types of people, to Gensokyo, she clearly somewhat deserved what she got.
Daiyousei has been blown up by both the protag of EoSD, and Cirno, she's suffered somewhat.

This thread is bad and you should feel bad.

>>17085769
Sariel got fucking destroy after taking over makai. Shinki had her world, makai, destroyed by Reimu after she did nothing. The tourist thing wasn't her. Daiyousei just happily plays Danmaku and doesn't have anything bad happen.

>>17085702

The good faith agreement here is to never occupy those cells until there's been a consensus (as far as /jp/ does) or that you really really feel like it's correct.

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>>17085850
Alright let's start from the zero
What characters should we add and where?

>>17085887
/a/ Had Reimu at (40,10) and /v/ put her at (15,45) So how about we start with her at (25,25)?

>/a/, /tv/, /co/ did this and /his/, /v/, /tg/ are doing it
The perfect reason not to do it, then.

>>17085544
>Vegeta deserving more suffering than Shishio
???

>>17085464
How would this work? There aren't even 200 Touhou characters and most of them would fit in the lower-left quadrant.

>>17088015
How many planets has Shishio blown up?
At least, that's the only logic I can think of.

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>>17088002
Agreed.

>>17088031
Kancolle, idols, and any visual novel not originally released in the west is also /jp/.

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>>17088002
>this thread should be filled with nothing but shitposting.

>>17088045
>Kancolle, idols

Aside im@s, they aren't.
Also it's time to get this shit thread deleted already.

>>17088031
Monstergirl threads on the lower right, meido on the top left, idol threads on the top right

>>17088206
JAPANESE BIRD DID NOTHING WRONG

>>17085887
Seiga = zero suffering, high deserving (kills people and steals Christmas, constantly evades punishment)
Seija = low suffering, high deserving (annoyed enough people to be attacked by an angry mob, but escaped)
Tenshi = mid suffering, mid deserving (caused earthquakes out of boredom just so that she'd get to fight the people who came to stop her)
Sumireko = mid-high suffering, mid deserving (*teleports behind you* *tips fedora*)
Byakuren = high suffering, low deserving (good person but irresponsible at times, got imprisoned for centuries to protect her allies)
Kogasa = high suffering, zero deserving (gets beat up for no reason despite being generally friendly and helpful, has contemplated suicide)
Rinnosuke = low suffering, low-mid deserving (full of himself and sometimes tries to con people)
That guy from FS who ate his horse = max suffering, low deserving
Reisen = high suffering, low-mid deserving (guilt complex for running away, but also the most openly racist member of Eientei)
Satori = high suffering, very low deserving (watched her sister go crazy)

>>17088441
Layla = high suffering, zero deserving (entire family died in magical accident, created beings shaped like her sisters out of loneliness)
Maribel = high suffering, zero deserving (youkai keep attacking her in her dreams for no reason)
Flandre = low-mid suffering, low deserving (stuck in the basement for 495 years)
Meiling = low suffering, zero deserving (does the best she can, but gets treated like a joke)
Youmu = low suffering, very low deserving (anything but ghoooosts)

>>17088206
this is our official one

give it to the other boards

>>17085887
Fortune Teller, max suffering, 15 deserving.

>>17088045
kancolle is /v/ and 3DPD idols are /s/ or /mu/. Fuck off.

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>>17088592
I'd like to agree with you but

>>17088608
If you get shot the bullet doesn't automatically become part of you. It's still a bothersome foreign object which does not belong, no matter how many years it's been lodged in your flesh.

>>17085544
>nagato deserving that much suffering
Nagato did nothing wrong. Kuso chart.

>>17088644
What does that have to do with what threads belong on an imageboard

>>17088206
Yeah just use this one. I don't feel like debating Touhou shit with Fortune Teller dicksuckers or having the thing filled with dumbass 3DPD idols and monstergirls, neither of which fit with board culture at all

>>17088718
Not him but you must be very stupid to not understand that analogy.

Koishi - 0,0
Lily White - 0,100
Toyohime - 100, 0
Nobody - 100,100

Why Koishi? Koishi is essentially a wild animal acting only on instinct. You cannot say she has truly suffered at all, nor can you say that any suffering she may have endured was deserved.

Why Lily White? Lily, like all the other fairies, are simply doing what they exist to do. Lily simply wants to announce spring, as that brings her joy. But she is shot down violently every time.

Why Toyohime? Extremely cocky, proud, and arrogant. She makes you want to hate her. Yet she has suffered nothing.

Why nobody at 100,100? To me 100,100 means a character that has acted maliciously knowing full well that their actions are wrong, and has suffered greatly as a result or has acted as a result of great suffering. I don't think any Touhou character fits both of those criteria. The closest is Mokou.

Blog complete.

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>>17088532
>>17088441
>>17087843

>>17089044
You've got two Maribels in there, and not in the usual way

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>>17089075
I'm retarded
One of them should be Reimu

>>17085559
>Shaka only being at 40/35 and not at least 70/70

>>17088986
Put the Babymetal general at 100,100

>>17085544
>>17085570
Reimu's place in these two charts is reversed, which is quite funny to me. Those who've never played a toho will think Reimu is Mary Sue and those who have played a toho don't.
Hmmm!

All Gachi threads in 10,85

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>>17089092
Put Remilia at 10 suffering/60 deserving
Junko at 95 suffering/60 deserving
Pic related at 70 suffering/0 deserving

>>17088986
We actually do need to decide the 4 characters that most express the 4 extremes, as examples to place the rest of them.

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>>17089133
ok
>>17089170
>>17088986
so, we are all agree with these corners?

>>17089210
>we are all agree with these corners?
I think you have an extra word there buddy
But yeah, I agree

>>17089170
Koishi for 0,0 and Mokou for 100,100 are decent fits. Toyohime never actually does anything beyond wave her fan around and call Yukari an asshole, and she's kind to the rabbits and her sister.

Whereas Seiga has to fight off assassins from Hell who think someone that evil can't be allowed to live, and even Miko is uneasy about admitting her association with her.

There's not many characters in Touhou who are portrayed as just downright evil and impossible to get along with.

>>17089092
I feel like Byakuren should be a little bit more to the right because her action caused some harm to humans despite her not having ill intentions--maybe one spot to the left of Reisen? Flan should be moved down some because she's more or less just not allowed to leave the house and has no real intention of doing so anyway. Youmu also seems a bit too far to the right for how relatively harmless she is.
For other characters, I would put Shinmyoumaru at like 35,40 or something--her actions caused a bit of an uproar and her zeal was misguided, but she isn't a bad person and moved on from her mistakes.

>>17089133
I'd say Junko should be 50 rather than 60, she's portrayed as more sympathetic than a 60 spot would make her out to be. Others make sense though

>>17089170
That guy has pretty good points for Koishi and the 100,100 spot (though I'd argue Mokou deserves it). I dunno about the other spots though. There are other characters, like Kogasa, that are in Lily's dilemma. A good chunk of the cast can be described the exact same way he described Toyohime, and I think CiLR shows she does have her softer side that justifies her not being in the extremes.

>>17089222
>>17089220
we could put Koisihi on 0,0 and Mokou on 100,100 and decide the other corners later

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>>17089239
>>17089222
I did what you guys suggested

>>17089269
By the way, shouldn't the bottom row be "how much they deserve to (suffer)"? Because as it stands it says Seiga didn't suffer, and she didn't deserve to suffer. Which is wrong.

>>17089269
>>17089275
just remove the "it" and the last "d" of deserved and we are good

>>17089210
No. Mokou at 100,100 is retarded.

You're polling like 4 people.

>>17089300
relax will you, the thread's been open for less than a day 70 replies. Eventually, if a better candidate for 100/100 shows up, it will replace muku.

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>>17089288
Alright
>>17089300
Removed Mokou, who should be 100,100 then?

yuyuko needs to go somewhere on the sufferometer
tokiko can go on the did nothing wrong meter

honestly the fact that touhou is a pretty nice universe makes this entire picture kind of self-defeating

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>>17089336
S:30
D:20

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>>17089441
Its just my opinion, but could we use the most recent ZUN or Harukawa art for the characters? Or at least only their head and hat? Some pictures are little hard to differentiate when we can't see fine details in those tiny squares.

Sumireko deserves a lot more suffering, she's shitting up and risking the life of everyone in Gensokyo every time she goes there and she won't stop because she's too selfish for that, she should be in the +80 panel at least.

I wonder if finding out that they were temporarily turned into refugees caused the moonbitches T and Y any mental suffering.

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>>17089621
If you give me a better picture I'll gladly change it
>>17089660
Done

>>17089441
Why is Junko so far in the deserving it field? Almost everything wrong/evil/immoral she did was after her suffering, she deserved nothing, put her at S:90 D:15

Put Meira at S:50 D:60
Non-extremist Mokou approach S:100 D:30, she was a fucking kid, an entitled brat but still
Put Aya at S:50 D:0, very powerful youkai low in hierarchy due to a fucked system, Gensokyo's only reliable source of information
Yumemi S:40 D:40
Eirin S:100 D:0
Kaguya S:100 D:35

>>17089685
>Eirin S:100 D:0
Eirin is a murderous manipulative bitch that murdered Lunar emissaries and moon rabbits for her own gain.
Also nearly killed Patchy for no reasons at all.

She's definitely not D:0

>>17089685
>Eirin S:100 D:0
You realise that her default solution to everything is murder except when that's impractical, and that she is incapable of remorse?

>>17089685
>Put Aya at S:50 D:0, very powerful youkai low in hierarchy due to a fucked system, Gensokyo's only reliable source of information
She's slandered people and bragged about it.

>>17089707
>>17089699
Still didn't deserve shit. Everything she did was to protect Kaguya and the Capital from nefarious pest

>>17089720
She's a fucking murderer, I disagree with 0D

>>17089720
How is nearly killing Patchy for no reason protecting Kaguya? She is murderous and finds no remorse killing people.
And the end don't justify the means, murder is murder.

Mitori: very high suffering but not deserving at all (misfortune because of the way she was born)

>>17089685
>Mokou was a kid!
She's possibly the most evil character in the series as she murders innocent passer-by's for hundreds of years, might not be the most evil person ever, but as far as touhous go that is really fucking evil.

>>17089681
You're a fucking idiot and shouldn't be doing this if one guy saying something clearly incorrect is enough to get you to change things.

Though I guess I am saying this about a little project that shouldn't even be on this board to begin with.

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>>17089720
By that logic Bane would be S:100 D:0

The only difference is that Bane was ordered to cause chaos and Eirin was ordered to fit in and not cause trouble. And then Eirin tried to murder someone anyway.

>>17089753
Fuck off faggot, Sumireko deserves a lot more than Tenshi or Remilia

Eirin for S:80/85, D:50
Kaguya for S:80/85, D:90/100

They're not suffering that much, they at least have each other, unlike Mokou. While Eirin is guilty of murdering people, she did it in service of Kaguya, who has no reason for the shit she pulled other than being a brat.

Agreed?

>>17089685
>Put Aya at S:50 D:0, very powerful youkai low in hierarchy due to a fucked system, Gensokyo's only reliable source of information
Aya willingly exaggerates truths to get readers though, no way is she 0 deserved. It's not always reliable. She also doesn't really suffer as much, she's powerful and has a fairly large amount of free will.

>Eirin S:100 D:0
Eirin chose her own fate and chose to go with Kaguya. She's still completely respected in moon society despite killing their emissaries and suffering the curse of Hourai. Definitely not a Deserved 0

Mokou and Kaguya look about right.

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>>17089685
ok i put in all the characters that nobody disagreed with

>>17089785
Kaguya doesn't ask Eirin to murder people. In fact Eirin often does the opposite of what people actually ask her to, while following the letter of her instructions.

E.g. Kaguya asked Eirin to free her and help her stay on Earth, so Eirin killed a bunch of people then locked Kaguya in a house where time doesn't exist and everything is exactly like the Moon.

Tsukuyomi wanted the Lunar Capital to be a utopia. Unfortunately, he asked Eirin to design it.

>>17089797
Dude, put Mitori high on the suffering but low on the deserving.

>>17089323
The problem is the nature of Touhou, so much is always left ambiguous that people are never going to feel comfortable with peoples' spots. That and the fact that the setting is full of characters who are mostly on the nice side, or suffer far more than they deserve (Parsee, Junko), it'd be hard to give a reason for why people should definitely suffer a lot other than people using headcanons and own personal preference for characters.

Hell, even Reimu, the character we know the most about, people will kick and scream about because muh fortune teller Reimu's the worst

>>17089801
Also, Eirin stole from the Three Fairies of Light once.

That's about the closest anyone's got to stealing candy from a baby.

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>5 Deserved, 100 Suffering

>>17089855
Who are you quoting? Are you looking to be exterminated?

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>>17089855
5 Deserved/100 Suffering would be this guy. "I REJECT MY HUMANITY, JOJO!" incurs several levels more karma than "I like horse meat".

>>17089681
>If you give me a better picture I'll gladly change it
Its the fucking ZUN art. Its on the wiki. Its fucking everywhere.

Eirin is one of the most Evil characters in Touhou and deserve a lot more suffering

I wonder if it was Zun's intention to write her as a psychopath, she's manipulative, looks down on everyone else, have no regards of life, her preferred way of dealing with thing is to murder off people.

>>17089914

That's every Lunarian who doesn't have rabbit ears though.

>>17089914
muh patchouli

>>17085544
So as far as the X-axis is concerned, does the "deserved it" mean in general, or how much they deserved the suffering when it happened?
I'm asking because of Kohaku, she did a lot of horrible things when she grew up but she didn't do anything to deserve what happened to her when she was young?

Yukari S:0 D:100

The world is her little plaything. If that isn't obvious enough yet, read the most recent chapters of Forbidden Scrollery.

>>17089323
The only people participatin gare /v/ people visiting /jp/ anyway. Why not just ask /v/ to do this for touhou? Or ask in /vg/'s touhou general?

>>17090061
Because /jp/ is the board for Touhou Project, even if you're personally a stuck-up shit who's got his head too far up his ass to participate in threads where people collaboratively create an image.

>>17090091
Being stuck up is the only thing that keeps /jp/ from being /a/v/b/

>>17090057

Yukari is more S:0 D:0-30

It's her plaything and she does some shady stuff but we have third-person omniscient from LoLK and SCoOW that her main goal is to protect Gensokyo.

SCHIZER!!!!

>>17089969
>>17089699
>>17089727
Can someone fill me in on what the fuck Eirin has done? How did she nearly kill Patchouli? I haven't heard any of this.

S:0 D:100 Blue ufo token

/a/ and /v/ just finished theirs and /vp/ just started
We could finish ours before vp

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>>17085464
Where should Mahjong go?

>>17090768
0 suffering/100 deserve

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>>17090787
>0 suffering

I envy you. You don't play the game.

>>17089797
>Koishi 5:5
I call bullshit

Satori 50:50 though

>>17090610
just make it all the UFO Tokens

Kosuzu had low (15-25) suffering but mid-high deserving (75-85)

67% of FS came from her antics but the rest of the cast baby her around like a good, unknowing villager she supposed to be. I mean sure, some of the cast used her, but it was because she dabbles in the youkai stuff in the first place and doesnt regret it one bit.

>>17085464
Junko: Way lower on Deserved, like 10s or 20s. Her bad deeds didn't come until after her son was killed, come on

Watatsukis: Suffering: 20s, Deserved: 60 (very bigoted. They took pleasure in what they/Lunarians have done. However they have some sympathies toward humans and didn't ask to get invaded. Hadn't been involved with Earth for a long while before that, having given up the Eirin/Kaguya chase and just wanting to be left alone on their rock)

Sagume: Suffering 10s. Deserved: 55? (Did what she had to to protect her people, but interfered with and manipulated a human, and actually had a killbot purifying stuff and boots on the ground for recon...just a step or two away from carrying out the plan to move to earth totally.)

Miko: S: 10s, D: 75 (haughty, concocted a religious war, killed, and had Futo act as her guinea pig for selfish reasons)

Futo: S: 20s. D: 60 (Betrayed her faith and family and killed Tojiko. Now out of her own time and has had trouble adjusting, so she at least suffered a little. Just a pawn of Miko who was a pawn of Seiga, however, so she deserves what she's gotten a bit less)

Byakuren: Should be bumped up to 65 or 70, IMO. Like Miko, she is selfish and put humans in danger. Unlike Miko, who merely became a hermit which is a mostly acceptable path to pursue for a human, she used the power of youkai for her personal benefit and became a youkai magician. She is a human traitor. However, she is humbler than Miko, and maybe has less blood on her hands)

>>17090435
Silent Sinner in Blue. Eirin was about to kill her.

>>17090972
That should be on everyone else for handling her with kid gloves or never being straight with her.
Reimu could/should have taken away her youma books a long time ago.

>>17085464
>crossboarding scum

Well, I dare you to produce /sp/'s version

>>17089797
for the new guys
Seiran: 55 suffer, 20 deserve
Ringo: 55, 25
Doremy: 35, 20
Sagume: 65, 55
Clownpiece: 20, 60
Hecatia: 5, 60

Etarnity: 15, 5
Nemuno: 25, 10
Aunn: 10, 5

>>17091026
She is a village human, the better she is left in the dark and keep on reacting based on current events. to strenghten the belief or fear of the supranatural the better.

But yeah, Reimu should have confiscated those books a long time ago and scares her for it, she probably would give them out easily out of fear.

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>>17089113
>/v/ playing video games
Real.

>>17091067
Is gameplay a factor because that'd bump Clownpiece up to a solid 90 for Deserve

>>17089797
Shinmyoumaru definitely should be above Tenshi and Sumireko. At least 70. Poor midget had her dreams crushed and her friend betray her all in the span of two games. Also, I think Tenshi should be near the bottom and way further to the right since she's a pampered and spoiled little brat who fucked with Gensokyo's climate just because she was bored. I would suggest putting her at 10 or 15 suffering and 100 deserving.

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>>17088986
what aboout REtard Koishi

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>90 Deserved
>95 Suffering

Put the generals as low suffering/high deserved. Not many touhou characters fit that quadrant.

>>17091439
This guy gets it

>>17089797
Seiga should be higher suffering.

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>>17089797
Lambdadelta
S: 60 D: 40

Her cheerful attitude holds back her suffering levels.

>>17090091
/jp/ is not the board for touhou project nor is it the board this shit, fuck off

>>17091522
Nobody has yet died and made you the king of what you are or aren't allowed to post in /jp/, so go post in threads you do like or kill yourself. Thanks.

/jp/, where art thou at?

>>17085464
All immortals should be in 100 suffering

Please continue

Akyuu should probably mid-high suffering, low deserved, what with continuous death and spending a century or so in hell before reincarnating.

Ksuzu should probably also be mid suffering, maybe like 35 deservedness, because she did poke around the youkai side of things a bit much and didnt take too much care / thought into things, so something was prolly going to happen, but she didnt deserve manipulation, possession, and any punishments that happen from this, so she should probably have it mid-high in preempting the suffering she's soon to have.

Reisens prolly mid-high suffering, mid-low deserved. As moon rabbit meaning not the most innocent seeing as used for lunarian dirty work, but never had much of a choice in anything.

>>17085544
Who's the top left

Fortune Teller
Top left

Mokou should be at least 90 deserving. The whole reason she even took the Hourai Elixir was just retarded to begin with, not to mention she killed an innocent human for something so pointless. And as if that weren't enough, she spent another 300 or so years killing god knows how many more innocent people. Not to mention she still blames Kaguya for her immortality meaning even after all these years she still hardly has the slightest idea of what it means to be responsible for your own actions. Her only tiny saving grace that might not put her at 100 suffering deserving status is that at the very least, she guides humans through the forest now instead of killing them but honestly, that's just some fucking basic human decency.

>>17088045
>Kancolle
They do literally nothing that affects the game, unless you count the shit ass anime, where 5 of them do something, or unless you're a fag who plays the game and whines about one of your ships always letting ypu down when the game is random chance and it could just as easily happen to someone else.

Also kancolle is here because everyone else hates it and theres nowhere lower to kick it to

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>>17085544
final version

>>17088108
It's been time to get this shit board deleted for half a decade.

>>17092367
>is here because everyone else hates it and theres nowhere lower to kick it to
This. They wanted to move it to /vg/ but, nooo, it fits perfectly on /jp/. Bull.

>>17092624
Don't delete my home.

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>>17092531
Fucking dumb /a/. I still cry at night.

>>17085570
Where's Caim?

>>17092129
I'd say like mid suffering, mid deserved for Reisen. She's kind of a dick and a coward who deserted her brethren in "battle" (whether or not it was fair to put them in the position to begin with) but nonetheless looks down on others like the terrestrial rabbits. She claims she's nothing like the Lunarians but very much adopted their attitude regardless. That said she has improved of late.

yukkuri needs to be 100 suffering 0 deserve

>>17088206
Why is the thread still going? This is the official /jp/ chart.

These are all terrible.

>>17085464
Can we hurry this up and just add every TwoWho

>>17094049
We need a good chartanon first

>>17085464
BOY IF YOU DONT GET

>>17088206
center the penne and will be perfect

>>17088986
>koishi
she can't be double cero, ok about her being a wild animal now but she doesn't born with, was autoinflicted so she had some amount of surffering

>>17094246
while she actually felt bad because of mean people, she had a part in HM
so I say x15 y10

Hina seems to suffer a lot, around 60-80 I would guess, but she doesn't deserve any of it

>>17094049
>>17094062
This is crossboarder shit, keep it out of /jp/ please.

>>17094049
>>17094062
It's already finished:
>>17088206

Now get out of /jp/.

>>17094409
>>17094530
this is just rude. will you keep harassing anons trying to enjoy themselves, or are you REALLY interested in having a meta discussion here?

>>17094609
Fuck off crossboarder

>>17095345
good post

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Even /a/ and /v/ finished this project. Gosh /jp/, can't you even complete this simple task?

>>17095460
This post is at 30 suffering, 60 deserved, I believe.

>>17095460
/jp/ is a dead board, of course it couldn't complete something like this

>>17095460
not enough 2hus

>>17085544
>Bernkastel deserving suffering that high
fucking what

>>17095482
you could use vn characters

Family Honour is a pretty huge deal in Asian culture. I do think that Mokou is more or less justified in what she does given the context she lived in. The deserving part should be lower (30-ish?) but suffering is probably 100.

Petitioning for Keine to be at 5,5 because she didn't no nothing wrong.

>>17095858
Keine might suffer a bit from her condition though

How about we decide which Touhous deserve least suffering, like most fairies for example

>>17094609
Kill yourself kudasai

>>17087871
No fun allowed on the jay!

>>17096214
acting like a subhuman is hardly fun

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>>17095460
>>17096214

there are over 100 2hus you fags

>>17092531
>Shinji Ikari
>70,45

>Mewtwo
>hardly derserved any suffering

Bullshit.

Also, switch Kenshiro and Future Trunks.

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>>17111852
0 suffering 100 deserved
kanako
>stole suwako's shrine
>made okuu into a weapon

will mokou be 90/90?

>>17112486
Mokou is easy 100 suffering, if not for what she has already been through, then for what she has yet to face.

>>17111852
>kaguya
>suffering
excuse me?

>>17112566
Play the games and read the written works

>>17112351
>0 suffering
She didn't get into Soku and HM, which made no sense at all.
>Okuu into a weapon
That wasn't her plan and you know it.

>>17090435
Eirin is one of the most bloodthirsty characters in the whole series, she will shank you without blinking if she thought it was in her greater interests.

Most of her personality aspects are on full display in CiLR and SSiB. If anything the Watatsuki sisters are far more merciful and kinder than Eirin. They take in the moon rabbits and train them who are effectively slaves in their society and are viewed with suspicion in the capital because of their mercy and connections to Eirin.

There was even the one scenario with Urashima Taro where they ask Eirin for advice on how to help the human. Eirin just straight up chastises them for not murdering him.

There was even a recent example with LoLK where Sagume hesitated doing something as extreme as purifying Gensokyo and decided to take a chance with the protagonists and Eirin's plan. Eirin on the other hand implied she would have just genocided everything if she was in Sagume's shoes and called it a day.

>>17112596
Kaguya is the 100/100, not the 40/100, shes a total bitch

>>17112814
Kaguya isn't malicious. Sheltered at worst.

The only blood on her hands is from telling a guy "I'll marry you when pigs fly" only for him to run off and get himself killed trying to build a pig cannon. Well, that and Mokou, but that's in self-defense - Kaguya just wants the crazy hobo with a suicide fetish to go away and stop bothering her.

>>17113412

>Kaguya just wants the crazy hobo with a suicide fetish to go away and stop bothering her

Citation fucking needed, it's Kaguya who bothers and attacks her, Mokou just goes along with it because she hates her guts

>>17085544
they still didn't fixed sakura and mikan, they are to high,

>>17113412
>Kaguya just wants the crazy hobo with a suicide fetish to go away and stop bothering her
The entire plot of the IN extra is Kaguya getting the protagonists to go try and kill Mokou under the pretense of it being a "trial of guts"

>>17085544
Why is Dandy on the chart twice?
30S, 45D and 10S, 100D

>>17113816
10S/100D is Ohgi from Code Geass

>>17112566
I took the previously posted chart and added the sangetsusei trio, I did not bother to second guess anything already on the chart
Also she'll live through the heat death of the universe, possibly through the true vacuum conversion event as well

>>17113754
CiLR has Mokou running after Kaguya and killing her a lot for several hundred years, but they have some sort of understanding now.

It's very much Mokou-driven because to Kaguya, Mokou is just the random daughter of Suitor #18534 who couldn't leave well enough alone. In the beginning Kaguya had no reason to seek her out.

>>17118020
oh boo fucking who

Yuki: S: 65 D: 15
Mai: S: 65 D: 90

Yukari in Koishi's place, she did nothing wrong
Koishi 10 D 50 S, for god sake, the poor girl had to close her fucking eye.

Hello is this the latest thread where we debate whether Byakuren is innocent or scum?

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I added Mitori. Everyone should try to contribute!

We should make a 10x10 chart like /vp/
We don't have enough characters for a 20x20 one

>>17129225
Allow idols and VN characters.

>>17129238
Kill yourself

>>17129225
Or maybe we shouldn't do this shit at all! And you should go back from whence you came!

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>>17085464
>>17085553
>Clarissa not in the top left spot. Instead it's that retarded old couple who died from radiation, and where half the point of that film was to show the stupidity of blindly following traditions and not adapting to the times.
Jesus /co/ is retarded.

I would like to see a /jp/ one though. We should defnitely allow VN characters. Not sure about idols but I suppose that could work to. If we do idols she should be somewhere in the top left.

>>17129430
If I tell you I've been posting in /jp/ for eight years and like these sorts of collaborative threads, would it cause you to shut up, or would you start throwing an autistic fit about how you're the one true defender of real /jp/?

>>17085544
Ahhhh that Yamada near 0! She's so pure and I love her very much! We have very similar personalities irl or when I was a teenager.

>>17129200
remove mitori
louise near the top left
sanae mid bottom
satori near top left
mokou top middle
yuuka bottom right
marisa bottom right
kanako bottom right

This is the worst thread /jp/ has had in the past 5 years.

>>17129930
you really think this is worse than the AWA thread series? really?

>Koishi this low
fucking secondaries

>>17085570
Asura deserves to be at the top. He's the fucking epitome of undeserved suffering. Also Junko didn't really deserve it.

>>17129861
I'm not removing Mitori. She's cute as heck.

bird cooking spaghetti: 5 in both
dog jumping through five hoops: s 35 d 5
rika (higurashi): maximum suffering, 15 deserving
bernkastel: maximum suffering, maximum deserving

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>>17085570
/v/ finished theirs already

>>17089805
Who's Mitori
>>17089855
100 Deserved it 5 Suffering
Reimu killed him too quick

>>17091056
/sp/ has no culture it's just /pol/ now It got rid of it's culture when /asp/ was made

Still this is just over already
>>17088206

>>17132163
>Junko
>Cirno
>characters from visual novels
Those characters rightfully belong to /jp/. That's a copyright infringement.

>>17132303
Mitori is an OC. She gained a lot of popularity so she has some porn now.

>>17132354
Don't forget Chiaki way up there

>>17132163
Why are Asriel and Flowey in different places? I guess /v/ really is full of furfags.

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I've done it guys.

>>17132886
shrink /jp/ down to simply be the top right

del

>>17133061
Sorry meant to say bump

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>>17132163
That's really outdated, here's the actual final version.

>>17134085
Why does Noire deserve to suffer

>>17134085
Why the fuck is Junko so far right? She did nothing fucking wrong and had her life ruined, she only went berserk on the Lunarians after they killed her son.

This thread is shit and these charts other boards have done are shit.

>>17134085
Phoenix Wright at only 20 suffering really jogs the noggin, as does Junko at 75 deserved. What trash.

>>17087871
There is literally nothing wrong with /tg/

>>17134085
Why is the Doctor so low in suffering? He got his ass beat in the end

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Where?

Come on you fags.

>>17091108
fukn tou chei

>>17091288
>total and mindless magic rocks
they're the real 0,0

Kana top left

>>17154410
We can't do it >>17095482