I miss those dreamlike days... Maybe it's better that

Why do you guys obsess over no other company as much as Type-Moon? Not over Key, not over Nitroplus, not even over Elf as much. Not Front Wing or Liar Soft or whatever. The only thing I've seen close is back when Illusion games were popular around here and maybe 07th Expansion, Littlewitch, or Aquaplus related games. What the fuck is so great about Type-Moon and the exactly 2(two) games anyone even cares about from them?

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You will never live Kohappily ever after...

Isn't it sad?

>>16897229
There is lot to that. It was the 1st ''real deal'' thing translated. Back then, no one expected TM turning into horrible normalfag-milking enterprise. Belive or not the credit of trust was huge. TM discussion was a thing and a contributor to board in general, and so the following persisted for quite some time.
Very few people cares about it nowdays outside of /a/ that "discovered'' TM trough anime and /v/ because FGO. There is small TM thread from time to time, but that just nostalgia acting up.
Oh, there was Melty Blood gameplay threads as well.

>>16897229
I don't think there is a single company out there that consistently makes good VNs.

It's protected /jp/ heritage. Or, what >>16897272 said.

>>16897229
Because Mirror Moon translation
Because beautiful piano ost
Because shark end
Because that chair
Because raep the maids
Because isn't it sad, Sacchin

While Type-Moon certainly isn't what it used to be, it did leave its mark. Also, we get more cynical as we get older.

>>16897272
>Very few people cares about it nowdays outside of /a/ that "discovered'' TM trough anime
Did people discover it through the games? Back when 4chan was starting people were talking about the Tsukihime anime and/or their hate for it. Were they just people who played it already or when was the game actually translated?

>>16897277
It's more like 4chan heritage. When I said "You guys", I meant /jp/, old /a/, and old /b/ have not shut up about Tsukihime in particular for the last 14 damn years. I guess Melty Blood is a factor though.

>I don't think there is a single company out there that consistently makes good VNs.
Yeah but even if they did, you wouldn't know because you just talk about FSN and Tsukihime all the time. I guess Fate/Zero is "talked about" now since the anime.

Take Key though, it has lots of liked games and seems more overall an influential company, but I don't see people talk about them anywhere near as much even when making fun of the older Kanon anime was still popular. Type-Moon is like the only thing I will see multiple threads of even in this general-laced future.

>>16897352
>Tsukihime anime
There is no Tsukihime anime.

TM have huge universe with tons of characters, powerlevels, plot twists and so on. Key doesn't. It's not like Key games are bad, they simply can't provide enough discussion fuel. And it's not like people never made fun of TM either. What about Key you would you like to discuss? Just create a thread then.
It felt like you just want to complain that things you like aren't talked much as the things you don't.

>>16897229
Tsukhime is truly a story about optimism, valuing yourself, appreciating your life, and moving boldly into the future. Death might not be as close to our doors as it is to Shiki’s… but, then again, you never know. That is why the lessons in this story are so applicable. You are alive now, but maybe not tomorrow. So look on your past fondly, smile at yourself in the mirror now and again, and hope lovingly for the future.

In the epilogue, Shiki fatefully meets Aoko again and they muse a little bit about old times past. Shiki notes how the past several days/weeks (the span of X route) have been crazy. And some point Aoko tells him that those days will eventually end. Shiki agrees and asks something to the effect of when. The Magus just kind of remains silent and freaking Shiki just tells her that the days were fun, though.

And this is what, for me, Tsukihime was about. Yes, there were vampires and serial killers. But it was really about finding joys in today – even when it doesn’t seem like there are any… and about having faith in a tomorrow. Basically, Tohno Shiki could die ten years from that conversation with Aoko, or he might not even wake up the next day. Although we don’t “live close to death”, the same basic concept applies. There are no promises in life. So you can go through life miserable only to be potentially snuffed out tomorrow, or you can find your own happiness and hope it extends into your future.

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Those dreamlike days still softly call, like a nearly forgotten song of childhood.

I miss those dreamlike days... when people didn't make Tsukihime threads everyday that get 5 replies.

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I look at those years with a bit of nostalgia myself. Life was simpler, /jp/ hadn't gone through its autistic phase, and internet culture hadn't been gutted to death by normalfags.

>>16898013
Tomoyo After is truly a story about optimism, valuing yourself, appreciating your life, and moving boldly into the future. Death might not be as close to our doors as it is to Tomoya's but, then again, you never know. That is why the lessons in this story are so applicable. You are alive now, but maybe not tomorrow. So look on your past fondly, smile at yourself in the mirror now and again, and hope lovingly for the future.

In the epilogue, Tomoyo fatefully meets Tomoya again and they muse a little bit about old times past. Tomoya notes how the past several days/weeks (the span of X route) have been crazy. And some point Tomoyo tells him that those days will eventually end. Tomoya agrees and asks something to the effect of when. The Life Consultant just kind of remains silent and freaking Tomoya just tells her that the days were fun, though.

The times when you had to summon a devil to play act cadenza without issues

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>>16898504
>he didn't call the installer wizard

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>>16898598
FOOL
YOU DARE SPEAK MY NAME WITHOUT FIRST CLOSING ALL OTHER RUNNING PROGRAMS?

>>16897474
I don't particularly like VNs and I don't particularly dislike TM, but I know there are lots of VNs that are liked but they don't seem to have nearly the following or obsession even though they seem to have the popularity.

>TM have huge universe with tons of characters, powerlevels, plot twists and so on. Key doesn't. It's not like Key games are bad, they simply can't provide enough discussion fuel.
Yet when I think of old doujin games, there are lots featuring Key characters but outside of Melty I can only think of a few featuring TM characters. It seems like Key ones integrated themselves into Japanese otaku culture but nothing except TM has gained that status in the west, even though Nitro+ games are really popular. Maybe it's just because of memes.

Basically I just think it's odd. Especially because it's almost always specifically Tsukihime related unless it's FSN. Even this thread that starts with a KnK reference but doesn't actually care about it.

>>16898931
That's an interesting point about Key's footprint in otaku culture vs Type Moon's. I feel like Key's time really came and went several years ago, while Type Moon has somehow maintained a pretty consistent level of popularity over a decade-plus.

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I love Sion! so of course I have to also be into the rest of TM in general. So glad they gave her some more spotlight, even if it was just to further build hype and tie in F/GO.

>>16897229
I think the Type-MOON universe is like Touhou in that it lends itself easily to derivative works. Fate/Stay Night is the big offender, but Tsukihime also has Melty Blood.

It also helps that a Type-Moon VN is more likely to be a person's first VN than any of those other companies, and even if they are pandering with Fate, they haven't fallen off the wayside like how Key and Nitroplus have. Even if that's only because of so many Fate spinoffs that manage to be popular.

I wish I could go back in time.
I'm getting old. every tomorrow has become the same as yesterday.

In the end, nothing in life really matters except love.

>>16899604

You baka, don't you even remember? It's like Tohno Shiki basically said; just being alive is good enough. Enjoy the ride.

>>16899818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIleIBSm_zc

Mandatory soundtrack post. I-It's not like I regret not saving her or anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sgQOBJrPnI

When it all ended, I met a familiar person on the fields at night.

>She kicked me, of course.

>>16898365
Internet culture exists
>what is twitter
>what are memes

Sweet dreams Type Moon you are the Marvel of Japan now

wasn't Tsukihime II assimilated into Fate

>>16897229
You say people only care about two of Type-Moon's games, but do they have any complete projects that aren't part of the Fate/ umbrella or prequels/sequels/retellings of Tsukihime?

>>16903835
You could consider Kara no kyoukai as a separate entity that eventually merged into the Tsukihime real

>>16903835
Fate is just a retelling of Tsukihime.

>>16903877
I'd definitely consider KnK (and Mahoutsukai no yoru) extensions of Tsukihime

>>16904217
Yeah but they started out as standalone

>>16904313
Also, KnK predates Tsukihime, and its broad strokes were cannibalized to develop Arcueid's Game.

>>16898125
Yowza, I forgot how badly drawn this was.

Was arc truly black, /jp/?

>>16909182
yea

>>16902454
>what is twitter
>what are memes
proof that internet culture is dead

I still have this VN downloaded from the 7 or 8 years ago. Should I play it as is or should I get one of the newer ones? I understand there is a voice patch. Is there newer art or anything?

>>16903877
>Kara no kyoukai as a separate entity that eventually merged into the Tsukihime real
KnK got merged into Grand Order not Tsukihime.

>>16911414
Toukou, Aoko. Eyes of death perception. No?

>>16911547
Aoko and Touko are completely different characters in Tsukihime than in KnK. Aoko doesn't even have the 5th yet in KnK's universe and the whole Human Order bullshit. The only thing that remains constant is that they both hate each other and MEoDP works roughly the same.

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>>16897029
Arc's redesign>>>>>>>>original design.

I played Fate and it felt like run of the mill pandering bullshit.
Is tsukihime really good or is it too just nostaligiafags fawning over something they played when they were teenagers?

>>16919079
completly finished tsukihime last month, art is horibble but all routes are nice (also, i love how its all ended when you realise everything)

Arc best waifu

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>>16911847

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>>16919130
Too bad I'm serious.

>>16919079
Tsukihime is great and it aged pretty well aside from the art.

Kohaku best route. Satsuki route never.

>>16925055
>>16919096
I meant if it is similar to fate in terms cringy self insert pandering bullshit. Then I wont bother.

>>16925915
If Tsukihime pandered it'd be a bit more popular than it actually is. Which is a shame though, because the Tsuki girls are superior to the Fate ones.

>>16927610
Fucking this. Satsuki deserved a route more than Ilya and her magical loli spin-off

>>16910831
Just experience it as is

To be honest, tsukihume is the best work but Fate is really good too. I don't like all this infighting... We should be opposing shit like F/GO instead

>>16930444
KnK is Nasu's best work (and that's mostly because UFOtable was given free reign in the adaptation) and I have no problem with F/GO. It's not even a Type-Moon work, so it's not like it's cannibalizing time that could be spend on other projects.

I hate extella and F/GO so much.

sharks were jumped

>>16930476
I watched 2 of the knk movies ages ago and I didn't really like them (I think). I don't really like neo-ufotable either (I liked pre-TM ufotable better)

>>16930496
If you watched 1 and 2, I feel those are a pretty weak start.

I'm kind of sad the series peaks at movie 5 instead of 7.

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>>16930487
Same desu. Not only are more and more blandshit girls being added, the memes are all shit too.

>>16903461
F/GO's Count of Monte Cristo perma-killed Roa.

>>16930487
I don't think I've ever been more buttblasted at a shark jump.

>>16930676
I didn't even give a shit because the franchise as a whole has removed itself so far from the original game.

that game was a pretty simple story focused on personal drama with a bunch of ridiculous but fun concepts mixed in.

now we have all this shit and I can't give a single fuck about anything anymore

>>16897029
It was fine when the only major Fate spinoffs were Prisma Illya and Extra. Now we got Apocrypha, strange fake, Prototype, Extella and of course that shitfest Grand Order. Just fucking stop, already.

Meanwhile, the Tsukihime remake is looking at a slick 2028 release date, a Mahoyo sequel is never happening and most of all there's no new IPs in sight.

At this point I just want them to finish the HF movies and then fuck off.

>>16930769
extella is going to get a sequel every 2 years untill they got the entire F/GO cast in there.

>>16930835
Of fucking course it is.

I want to wake up from this dream and actually live my life

>>16897029
Type Moon went down the shitter the moment Nasu let other writers in.

>>16930769
>the Tsukihime remake is looking at a slick 2028 release date
I honestly thought it was a joke to think that we'd have to wait until 2020 to get a Tsukihime remake. Not anymore.

>>16930769
The Tsukihime remake became the new Tsukihime 2.

>>16897029
What are those dreamlike days? Does anyone know?

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>>16931538
Man, remember when Nasu said we'd get that?

>>16931861
I remember when he was talking about sacchin route in tsukihime plus-Disc.

>>16911847
>>16919228
The hair is alright and maybe even the boots too but the tight sweater and short skirt really don't suit her. And it might just be that I prefer late 90's/early 00's character aesthetics but the new eyes look really bad. Could be worse I guess.

>>16930769
Apo and Prototype were before Prillya.

>>16933223
Arc was supposed to have gotten her clothing from raiding a trendy fashion store, so having more form fitting stuff makes sense. It also fits her spunky, vampish character more in my opinion.

>>16933663
I want to make Arc all spunky!!

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>>16933663
>It also fits her spunky, vampish character more in my opinion
It really does.

>>16933663
But people grew up with her granny clothes. It's really difficult to switch to a different permanent look on a character that you've been stuck with for the longest time.

Imagine people who read Higurashi with the hamhands, and say after 5-6 years they are replaced with better aesthetically looking ps2 sprites and are told "this is what they look like"
What happens? There's a divide between the people who got used to the original sprites and those who read it with the new sprites

>>16933663
>Apo and Prototype were before Prillya.
No.

Apocrypha novels started in 2012, Prototype became its own thing with the novels in 2013, and the Prillya manga started in 2007.

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>>16934682
Maybe once the remake eventually comes out people will stop whinging about it.

Takeuchi had no idea how to dress his characters for the longest time, bless him. Everyone in Tsukihime wore the same basic "maxi skirt and some type of collar" getup.

>>16937375
By the time the remake comes out Arcade will have to get with the times, again, so people will be commenting on that instead.

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>>16937555
And his sense of fashion only improved for his waifu.

>>16911611
is her sister and the same character in kagetsu touya and sister of arihiko inui

>>16928885
iliya NO
phantasmoon YES

>>16937883
Magical Amber > Kaleido Ruby > Phantasmoon >>>>>>>>>>>>> Prisma Ilya

>>16903461
No. Even more, Nasu straight up said in his blog that Fate and Tsukihime are separate story branches that normally don't cross over.

I've only played Tsukihime and it was shit, chuunibyou porn harem. It doesn't look like the rest is any better.

>>16939229
It's not just a shit, chuunibyou porn harem, it was MY shit, chuunibyou porn harem.

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>>16939156
Nasu:
>Please don't care about the powerlevels between Fate and Tsukihime
>Proceeds to have the Fate and Tsukihime cross-over be filled with powerlevels

>>16939229
It's like those old series you will love when you are at a certain age and then you will have nostalgia of them for the rest of your life even if looking back at them you now realize they were pretty shitty.

still to this day I can't remember the exact name of nrvnrqsr without googling it.

>>16939655
Just call him Nero. Only people who'd get mad are Nerofags and they're all retarded anyways.

>>16939655
It's the Hebrew spelling of Nero Caesar, sans vowels, since they're often omitted in Hebrew anyway. That makes it easier for me to remember.

>>16897246
What was that thing she used to say? Something about finding an item.

Pretty sure I missed the golden age, but despite everything Nasuverse still somehow seems to offer the best discussion there is, which isn't that much anymore, but it stands for something.

I think what eventually ruined the threads were people first conuming different adaptations and then having spoiled the visual novels with different expectations or even worse, avoided the vidual novels altogether. I think what might've helped would've been a proper and professional translation of Type-moon material.

>>16943505
That's what happens with things that get anime adaptations. It can't be helped.

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Together or not together...

These were the last traces of those dreamlike days...

>>16939156
Bazett and Caren were characters planned for tsukihime 2, right?

>>16949580
Yeah. There was even a scene from Tsukihime 2 where a Mr, Dawn was driving around with a woman with a psychic disorder like Caren.

>>16947047
Reminder that Sakura is more popular than all the Tsuki heroines combined.

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>>16952573
I would have assumed Illya was way more popular than that, interesting

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I'm going to ask here because I have nowhere else to turn to and I desperately want to play/experience Tsukihime but I have Tohsaka-levels of computer understanding. I don't know if the copy of Tsukihime I downloaded is incompatible with the patches or if they're corrupted or what.

I've DL'd a Japanese copy of Tsukihime and extracted it, I've mounted Tsukihime.ccd, DL'd mirrormoon_english patch 1.1 and 1.2, and ran both. I comply with teh arc.sar when asked with the correct directory. I've moved all the music files according to guides I found online. However when I run the application I get pic related. Can anyone please tell me where I'm messing up?

>>16952810
I only googled for a few minutes but have you tried replacing your default.tff file with this one? http://www.mediafire.com/file/x4tkyc01jgze8gf/default.ttf

>>16952573
Not a bad showing for Tsukihime heroines considering their utter lack of released content.

>>16952573
That's definitely dated though.

>>16952755
That's still a poll from the golden age, so it doesn't reflect the current popularity of characters at all.
It's from right after the Zero anime and before Prisma Illya exploded.

>>16956272
But Zero's airing was the start of the downfall tho

>>16956345
That was Extra, but Mahoyo's release marks the end of the golden age and the descent into cancer.

>>16956345
Zerofags weren't a thing until the anime, right?

>>16952951
I don't know if this is because I'm super new to VN's (I've only played Fate and Umineko), I ended up extracting ONScripter into the patch directory and it seems to be working fine now. Sorry for wasting your time man. Thanks.

>>16958029
There were some, I think. I didn't watch or play it but there were the "lol dick worms" people and the "holy shit berserker can wield airplanes" people

When a fan service mahou shoujo spin-off and a dungeon crawler with rps battle system are the best written and in general the most enjoyable entries in the franchise, it's really time to think and reevaluate things.

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>>16958621
But Prisma Illya is complete shit and Extra is one of the absolute worst T-M has done along with FGO.

>>16958859
Actually it's fine.

Everything is fine.

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>>16958621

To this day I still don't understand how there are people who prefer the remixed soundtrack over the original.

>>16952573
>Aoko and Alice in top ten
Wait, what? I thought Japan hated it and Mahoyo was a huge flop?

>>16958621
Prisma Illya is one of the worst entry of Type-Moon and i wish you faggots all die with your loli and "at least shirou is cool in prisma" bullshit.

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>>16966472
No one ever sources that, so I assume it's just a meme.

>>16966490
>at least shirou is cool in prisma
mfw

I legit consider prismafags worse than zerofags. Especially with how they keep trying to find ways to make Prisma "canon".

>>16967092
>Especially with how they keep trying to find ways to make Prisma "canon".

Confirmed for Type-Moon newfag. Everything is canon, including things like Teach Me, Ciel-Sensei! and Tiger Dojo, albeit in different timelines/continuities.

>>16968244
Nice try, prismafag. "Canon" doesn't exist for TM. Everything is a separate work that connects on similar but different universes. Nasu even explicitly said so in his newest blog update.

>>16937375
I don't care about any of the other changes just don't make the happened black goddamn.

>>16968367
That's exactly what i said, but worded differently

>>16968367
I'm pretty sure that mechanics are canon between universes unless otherwise specified, friendo.

>>16969014
>happened
And yes, the black headband is stupid. If its the same color as her hair then whats the point?

>>16897229

Partly because as >>16899261 said, the whole "everything is canon" way the universe works and the nature of the Fate universe lends itself to all sorts of spinoffs and an endless supply of material. The other reason is that Fate is an entry level VN and it holds a special place in a lot of peoples hearts because it has so many memorable characters and it has a rather interesting story and concept. That's all Fate though, as for Tsukihime I can't really think of anything particularly that stood out to me there that would make it as big of a deal as Fate, sure the writing is a bit better because it's less shounen-y but the characters aren't any better or worse and it really lacks the whole "wild ride" feeling that Fate gave me when I read it. Going from Saber is King Arthur to Shirou is the Red Man who can pirate swords with magic and finding out why a guy who seemingly only used swords is of the 'Archer' class, to everything about Sakura and angry manjew and Kotomine. There wasn't a single route that felt 'empty' storywise and it had me on the edge of my seat even during the SoL moments. Sure it's easy once you've got a lot of VNs under your belt to say "bah it's entry level and it has all these plot holes yadda yadda" but when you're reading it for the first time it's something special and it sticks with you more than most other VNs

>>16969528
Yes, that is what I said.

>>16965177
>he's not using both remix and original tracks

>>16956345
Wasn't it Extra and CCC?

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>>16978209
Zero brought the secondaries and Urobuchi dick suckers, while Extra brought even more waifufags and unnecessary pandering.